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SupergirlJenM
01-29-2002, 05:11 PM
Who do you think would make a cute animated couple? :)

I think Robin and Supergirl. Tim had the cutest little big head and I just loved all of his silly faces. Wasn't he so adorable at the end of "Knight Time?" :D In the cartoon I think Kara is only a year older than Tim if Tim was 14. I think! :p I just think they would make a cute couple plus I'm silly and drinking Mountain Dew! Who else?

The Green Hornet
01-29-2002, 07:02 PM
really? I figured Kara to be around 16-17-- kinda like Jimmy Olsen ( i always figured him to be right about 16)

Poison Carley
01-29-2002, 07:10 PM
I would say like Robin is 14 and Supergirl is 17, you got confused didn't you. ;)

Like I think Ivy and Croc would make a good couple. I explained and expanded on that in our old RPG. Ivy and Two Face was also another good pair. ;)

I would also like to say that Barbara and Dick were not a cute couple....lol I can't stand Nightwing and his mullet.

Batman 80
01-29-2002, 07:41 PM
Me and Hawkgirl. Oops, I mean Hawkgirl and Flash. I think they would make an interesting couple.

Dark Knight
01-29-2002, 07:41 PM
I think Supergirl and Jimmy are more suited for each other. How about Hawkgirl and Flash? And I think it would be really cool if JL did some kind of Wonder Woman-Superman-Lois love triangle somewhere down the line.

As for Batman I really only could see him ending up with Andraia Beamont (AKA the Phantasm.) She could reform her psychotic ways and join the bat team.

The Game
01-29-2002, 08:20 PM
I hated Dick's mullet at first too- but Dick and Babs are the couple from Batman. Bruce has had some flames, but the only two recurring characters (okay, not only but...) that have had a serious relationship are those two.

Poison Carley
01-30-2002, 12:38 AM
At least no one said Batman and Catwoman. :)

Jedigreedo
01-30-2002, 05:29 AM
I was gonna say that but then it hit me and I just said to myself, "Uh, no." :D I think maybe Poison Ivy and Killer Croc would be a good couple, I mean she could make the swamp and he would actually like it. :rolleyes:

Naraht
01-30-2002, 07:37 AM
I still like Batman - 10....they so cute when they're that age...

hrm, cept for the Time Dif. Batman & Supergirl would be a cute couple...they could fly around & stuph...

DisneyBoy
01-30-2002, 11:20 AM
Cute couples hmmmmmm?

Dick and Barbara for ever!!! Bruce and Selina!!!

As for Kara In-Ze (Kent), I could definately see Kara with Jimmy, while Supergirl fights next to Nightwing! Sure Dick is meant for Babs, but I could really see Supergirl getting the hots for him, don't ask me why though :p

Can anyone see Renee Montoya and Harvey Bullock dating? :D

JohnStewart-GL
01-30-2002, 11:41 AM
Originally posted by Dark Knight
I think Supergirl and Jimmy are more suited for each other. How about Hawkgirl and Flash? And I think it would be really cool if JL did some kind of Wonder Woman-Superman-Lois love triangle somewhere down the line.

As for Batman I really only could see him ending up with Andraia Beamont (AKA the Phantasm.) She could reform her psychotic ways and join the bat team. yea. but it could be a love square with Bruce in it. he had a thing with Lois.

Alexander
01-30-2002, 12:05 PM
Originally posted by naraht

Batman & Supergirl would be a cute couple...they could fly around & stuph...


Ooooooook, you obvioulsy have been reading Lolita...

Maxie Zeus
01-30-2002, 01:02 PM
Originally posted by Poison Carley
At least no one said Batman and Catwoman.

Cute? No.

Fun? Oh, yeah! :D

Naraht
01-30-2002, 01:09 PM
Originally posted by Alexander



Ooooooook, you obvioulsy have been reading Lolita...

You obviously missed that I was refering to Terry, not Bruce...>=O

James Harvey
01-30-2002, 01:11 PM
Dick & Babs. They made a great couple in Old Wounds and Sub-Zero, and they still do..even if they're officially dating.

King Ryan7708
01-30-2002, 01:23 PM
Ya know who are perfect for eachother-Firefly and Volcana! The two fire people! Ya! :)

Baby Doll and Mr. Mxyzptlk, the "little people" couple! A perfect match :p

Red Claw and Ra's Al Ghul! They both are terrorists, they both want to take over the world, why what a couple they would make if they joined forces! ;)

Who else?

Nightflower
01-30-2002, 01:32 PM
Originally posted by King Ryan7708
Ya know who are perfect for eachother-Firefly and Volcana! The two fire people! Ya! :)

Baby Doll and Mr. Mxyzptlk, the "little people" couple! A perfect match :p

Red Claw and Ra's Al Ghul! They both are terrorists, they both want to take over the world, why what a couple they would make if they joined forces! ;)

Who else?

And they both have white stripes in their hair and kooky British accents. You are a genius!


Um...... if I say Bruce and Selina/Batman and Catwoman, will you get mad, Carley?

Dark Knight
01-30-2002, 05:17 PM
Originally posted by King Ryan7708
Red Claw and Ra's Al Ghul! They both are terrorists, they both want to take over the world, why what a couple they would make if they joined forces! ;)

That is a REALLY good Idea.

Nightflower
01-30-2002, 06:25 PM
"Talia, say hello to your new stepmother!"

Cassandra
01-30-2002, 09:11 PM
If Bruce got Batgirl in BB history (which I HATE) Then Nightwing should get Catwoman.

Because who in their right mind WOULDN'T want Nightwing?

Naraht
01-30-2002, 09:12 PM
Originally posted by Cassandra
If Bruce got Batgirl in BB history (which I HATE) Then Nightwing should get Catwoman.

Because who in their right mind WOULDN'T want Nightwing?

*Raises His Hand*

I don't want him...wait..I'm not sane...n/m

Poison Carley
01-30-2002, 09:40 PM
Actually like if you look at the characters there are reasons Ivy and Croc would work whatever. If you actually follow the comics Croc's more at peace with the Earth and the green. He's not a criminal and like Swamp Thing did sometihing for him, I forget now. But whatever I'm not even going to argue with you. So don't make your little roll eye faces at me unless you have something to say to debate what I've said. That means substance not faces so pffffffffffff on you.

Alexander
01-31-2002, 01:25 AM
Originally posted by naraht


You obviously missed that I was refering to Terry, not Bruce...>=O



Ok, i'm sorry.... I just don't think of Terry when people say Batman. But you're right, they would sorta be cute. But i think Dick and Kara would be cuter, rather then Dick and Selina. Ofcource Dick with Barbara is the BEST couple of all!

Though Dr. Grant and Dr. Sattler were pretty cute too in JP...

Jedigreedo
01-31-2002, 01:33 AM
Originally posted by Poison Carley
Actually like if you look at the characters there are reasons Ivy and Croc would work whatever. If you actually follow the comics Croc's more at peace with the Earth and the green. He's not a criminal and like Swamp Thing did sometihing for him, I forget now. But whatever I'm not even going to argue with you. So don't make your little roll eye faces at me unless you have something to say to debate what I've said. That means substance not faces so pffffffffffff on you.

I guess you're talkin' to me but I didn't mean it in a negative way I was being serious. It would've been interesting had there been an episode with them together and trying to take down Batman. (I dunno if there was one or not, haven't seen'em all) Basically I just said it for laughs, had I not thought they would be a good pair I would've said different characters. Also, I was using the rolleyes face as an equivelent to: :D

Dark Knight
01-31-2002, 01:40 AM
What about Calendar Girl and the Riddler. They're both so gimmicky.

Summer Gleason and Jack Ryder

Alfred and Leslie Thompkins

Lobo and Roxy Rocket. (talk about the ultimate thrill!)

Clayface and Inque (I dont wantaknow what they'd do behind closed doors... or maybe I do?)

And heres a few girls for Bruce Wayne/Batman to work his way through (since its pretty obvious hes not committing at this point): Renee Montoya, Lana Lang, Maxima, Wonder Woman.

Brainiac
01-31-2002, 03:20 AM
Originally posted by Poison Carley
Ivy and Two Face was also another good pair. ;)



Wait...wouldn't Two-Face hate Poison Ivy...she was the one that posioned him in her origin episode "Pretty Poison." They even make a remark about it in "Almost Got 'Im"...I don't think they'd be too fond of each other...

Dark Knight
01-31-2002, 03:37 AM
Originally posted by Brainiac


Wait...wouldn't Two-Face hate Poison Ivy...she was the one that posioned him in her origin episode "Pretty Poison." They even make a remark about it in "Almost Got 'Im"...I don't think they'd be too fond of each other...

I think theyd have a great love/hate relationship like Joker and Harley only Ivy is obviously more independant.

Cassandra
01-31-2002, 09:06 AM
Bruce Wayne and Lana Lang-
How to piss off Superman in five words or less.....

Poison Carley
01-31-2002, 03:37 PM
I guess it depends on what Two Face you look at. Besides who said Ivy just wouldn't use him to get something. That would make them a cute couple. ;) Both of them are missunderstood and I think both's motivation's and desires could meet for a happy medium.

tom406
02-03-2002, 11:02 PM
I can tell several of the younger female fans really hate the Bruce/Barbara pairing in BB. And I totally understand, what with all the ridiculous May/December relationships Hollywood portrays with 20 year old starlets and past-their-prime 50+ year old actors. (Sometimes it works though, Courtney Cox and Tom Selleck on FRIENDS made more sense than any other guy she ever paired up with).

Anyway, I bought my kid the book "Batman Adventures: The Lost Years" which chronicles the departure of Dick Grayson as Robin, his evolution into Nightwing, and the appearance of Tim Drake as the "new" Robin. It has several expanded storylines touched on in the series, and one of them really fleshes out the pairing of Bruce and Barb. Basically, while Dick's resentment and alienation from Bruce grows, Barb is pretty much coming into her own as Batgirl, and impressing Bruce. She kind of knows it, and sort of flirts with Bruce to display her newfound confidence. So she grows apart from Dick not because he isn't right for her, but because he's getting away from the Batman grind, while she's just getting really into it. So they can't really stay together, if she wants to help Batman every night, and he just wants to get away. The book is no masterpiece, but it is a pretty nice filling in of the holes in that series of transitions.

As for Babs hooking up with Bruce, well, when you're as busy as those guys are night and day, you're bound to end up dating who you work with. And really, older or not, Bruce is still reasonably cool. And though younger, at least Barbara shared his goals and work ethic (and schedule!), with none of the criminal or sociopathic tendencies most of his "previous" girlfriends tended to have :D

Oh, and I'm all over that Red Claw/Ra's pairing. Bring it on for Justice League.

Alexander
02-04-2002, 02:42 AM
Originally posted by tom406

Anyway, I bought my kid the book "Batman Adventures: The Lost Years" which chronicles the departure of Dick Grayson as Robin, his evolution into Nightwing, and the appearance of Tim Drake as the "new" Robin. It has several expanded storylines touched on in the series, and one of them really fleshes out the pairing of Bruce and Barb. Basically, while Dick's resentment and alienation from Bruce grows, Barb is pretty much coming into her own as Batgirl, and impressing Bruce. She kind of knows it, and sort of flirts with Bruce to display her newfound confidence. So she grows apart from Dick not because he isn't right for her, but because he's getting away from the Batman grind, while she's just getting really into it. So they can't really stay together, if she wants to help Batman every night, and he just wants to get away. The book is no masterpiece, but it is a pretty nice filling in of the holes in that series of transitions.

As for Babs hooking up with Bruce, well, when you're as busy as those guys are night and day, you're bound to end up dating who you work with. And really, older or not, Bruce is still reasonably cool. And though younger, at least Barbara shared his goals and work ethic (and schedule!), with none of the criminal or sociopathic tendencies most of his "previous" girlfriends tended to have :D

Oh, and I'm all over that Red Claw/Ra's pairing. Bring it on for Justice League.


What a load of nonsense! There weren't any Bruce and Barbara hints in TLY!!!
You're just a BB fanboy who wants to see the BB POSSIBLE future confirmed in a comic that was written in 1997. First of all, TLY was written long berfore the whole idea of BB or Bruce and Barbara came up. Second, Barbara has continued to have a crush on Dick in both TNBA and the Gotham Adventures comics. Barbara is not growing away from Dick in that comic just because she teams up with Batman. TNBA clearly shows that Babs loves Dick in TNBA, NOT Bruce.
Specially lately Babs and Dick have become a lot closer in Gotham Adventures.
They do this because BB is now officially an Elsworlds series, and TNBA has no connection to BB, even though some BB fans can't seem to accept that, and start looking for awnsers on old comics.

tom406
02-04-2002, 12:54 PM
OK, I'll cop to being a BB fan, but you're in denial if you don't see ANY hints in TLY. I read the seeds of conflict on pages 13-15 (the tennis match in Book 1) where Barbara crushes Dick in Tennis, boldly challenges Bruce, and then gets beaten by him, which could only build on Dick's resentment and undermine his relationship with Barb. (Girlfriend beats you, Mentor beats girlfriend, thus Mentor superior to you in eyes of girlfriend. It's like the transitive theory of male ego crushing.)

Then again in Book 1 (page 23) where Batman and Batgirl are sitting in the Batmobile on a stakeout:
B-Girl: (Yawn!)
B-man: "Past your bedtime?"
B-Girl: "Just thinking how nice and warm it must be in my nice cozy apartment."
B-man: "Which would be where, exactly?"
B-girl w/sly smile: "My, aren't we getting unusually curious tonight. I'll show you mine if you show me yours." ;)

Now I'll grant you that these are subtle hints, and without knowing the BB-based conclusion that these two will get together, a reader might not be inclined to pick up on these as solid proof these two HAVE to unite. I'll even allow you that as a guy, I probably was influenced by the prominent display of Barb's chest, boldly drawn in that whole Batmobile stakeout series of illustrations, and may be projecting my own wanton lust of Batgirl onto Bruce. But "I'll show you mine if you show me yours" while flashing a come-hither look IS flirting, no matter how mild the intent, don't you think?

All's I'm saying is that these two sequences in (TLY book 1) provided the emotional bridge to the Barb-Bruce storyline in a way that resonated with me, creepy old-guy/young-girl dynamic or not. (My wife's older than me, BTW. :p )

Russkafin
02-04-2002, 03:23 PM
All I know is that if I was Batman, I'd definately be at least tempted ;)

The Game
02-04-2002, 03:39 PM
(Girlfriend beats you, Mentor beats girlfriend, thus Mentor superior to you in eyes of girlfriend. It's like the transitive theory of male ego crushing.)

I think losing to your girlfriend is ego-crushing enough as it is. ;)


Then again in Book 1 (page 23) where Batman and Batgirl are sitting in the Batmobile on a stakeout:
B-Girl: (Yawn!)
B-man: "Past your bedtime?"
B-Girl: "Just thinking how nice and warm it must be in my nice cozy apartment."
B-man: "Which would be where, exactly?"
B-girl w/sly smile: "My, aren't we getting unusually curious tonight. I'll show you mine if you show me yours."

Alexander, what are you talking about? If this is in the comic (I haven't read it) you denying any hints has nothing to do with Tom being a BB fanboy- it has to do with you being a Barbara Gordon Fanboy, not accepting the possibility of a Bruce-Barbara relationship.

Toddman
02-04-2002, 08:15 PM
Originally posted by Alexander

They do this because BB is now officially an Elsworlds series, and TNBA has no connection to BB, even though some BB fans can't seem to accept that, and start looking for awnsers on old comics.

Okay, BB fans, I'll take a shot at this one...*cracks knuckles*...

Alexander, if you want to believe that BB is an "elseworlds" that's fine. As for myself (and quite a few others), I happen to regard it as the true future of the animated universe. I'm not sure what has made it "officially" (in your words) an elseworlds story.

If you are referring to the fact that in seperate interviews, both Bruce Timm and Paul Dini have referred to BB as a "possible future," that is far from an "official" designation of BB as an alternate reality.

The fact is nothing that has been established in BB has been contradicted in storylines from BTAS, TNBA, STAS, JL, or even Static Shock. Perhaps it is you that cannot accept that. And until something airs that totally contradicts BB without a doubt, I'm placing it in my "definite future" column.

Like I said, if you want to regard BB as a "What If...?", that's cool. But you shouldn't argue w/others if they don't share the same opinion. After all, we are only talking about cartoon characters. Heck, I seem to remember Bruce Timm quoted as saying there will NEVER be an animated Justice League series. Now look where we are.

Toddman

The Game
02-04-2002, 08:27 PM
Okay, BB fans, I'll take a shot at this one...*cracks knuckles*...

Alexander, if you want to believe that BB is an "elseworlds" that's fine. As for myself (and quite a few others), I happen to regard it as the true future of the animated universe. I'm not sure what has made it "officially" (in your words) an elseworlds story.

If you are referring to the fact that in seperate interviews, both Bruce Timm and Paul Dini have referred to BB as a "possible future," that is far from an "official" designation of BB as an alternate reality.

The fact is nothing that has been established in BB has been contradicted in storylines from BTAS, TNBA, STAS, JL, or even Static Shock. Perhaps it is you that cannot accept that. And until something airs that totally contradicts BB without a doubt, I'm placing it in my "definite future" column.

Like I said, if you want to regard BB as a "What If...?", that's cool. But you shouldn't argue w/others if they don't share the same opinion. After all, we are only talking about cartoon characters. Heck, I seem to remember Bruce Timm quoted as saying there will NEVER be an animated Justice League series. Now look where we are.

I totally respect your opinion, and think you make a good point. Personally, I don't accept BB as the "definite future", but I respect that you do.

I think it just limits the possibilities of B:TAS-TNBA to have this defined future- besides I like to think that Dick and Barb will end up together in the end. :D

Dark Knight
02-04-2002, 08:31 PM
Yeah I pretty much see BB as a likely future, but not written in stone. The only stuff I hold to be definate about it is that Terry will be Batman under Bruces training, and his origin and supporting cast/villains will all surface in the future.

Whether or not Barbara ends up with Bruce or Dick is up for grabs I guess (technically she doesnt end up with either one she marries Gotham's future D.A. Who's name was something like Sam Young I think.)

But it's true that nothing in the past contradicts BB. In fact if you really look at Batgirls animated past she's had a thing for Batman all along. (who remembers her dream in "Batgirl Returns"?) And the fact that Batgirl became so much closer to Batman partner-wise while Dick kept pushing her away in TNBA was suggestive to me even before that was revealed in BB.

Cassandra
02-04-2002, 09:59 PM
Okay, reading your post I have to admit that I don't hold BB as anything but an elseworlds because I'm a total Batman fangirl and I thought it sucked that he ended up like that. My opinion, because it makes me happy to think so.

As for the Bruce/Barbara thing, I totally would not have had a problem with it....IF in BB Dick and Barbara had only flirted and never dated.(even though I think they are awesome together)

It would have been kind of cool and interesting to see a different take on Bruce and Barb's relationship. But going after the girlfriend of the boy he raised?! What a jerk! That would be like my mom dating one of my old boyfriends from high school, if we'd only broken up to go to different schools. Then I come back and try to patch things up, and she takes him instead!(BELIEVE me this is COMPLETE fiction) But seriously, that is so vile- I mean, dick was his family.

So, that is a personal opinion too, but it prevents me from seeing anything good in that particular pairing.

superfreak
02-05-2002, 01:57 AM
Here's my list.

Babs and Dick should be together.

Bruce with Selina or Andrea.

Superman with Wonder Woman.

Warhawk from JLU and Hawkgirl.

The Creeper and Harley, both of them are insane and funny.

Terry and Kara should be interesting.

Alexander
02-05-2002, 05:50 AM
Ok, first of all, Paul Dini has said in a recent interview that he considers BB as an Elsworlds series, because that way, they could continue the "Real" Batman without holding on to BB. Second Bruce Timm has said the very same thing, only he calls it a possible future. But he too explains that he holds on to this so they can continue the present-day Bruce Wayne/Batman in any way.
Now, i don't care what proof you BB fans try to give me, This is all the proof i need.
And also, Robin is now older in TNBA/Static Shock then he was in Batman Beyond: Return of the Jedi:p
So BB is already overwritten, no matter how many BB fans try to denie it.
Plus, in the end, when Dick returned from his journey, look at the smile on Barbara's face. Then you know who she really loves.
So there were a few hints in TLY... Not nearly as much as the Babs and Dick hints as in B:GA. :rolleyes:

Anyhoo, i don't really care anymore... There's a new STAR WARS film coming soon!

Toddman
02-05-2002, 10:18 AM
Originally posted by Alexander
Ok, first of all, Paul Dini has said in a recent interview that he considers BB as an Elsworlds series, because that way, they could continue the "Real" Batman without holding on to BB. Second Bruce Timm has said the very same thing, only he calls it a possible future. But he too explains that he holds on to this so they can continue the present-day Bruce Wayne/Batman in any way.
Now, i don't care what proof you BB fans try to give me, This is all the proof i need.

Please refer to my previous statement about my thoughts on this. That's exactly what I said. Besides, as far as I know, Dini is not currently involved with any of the animated series. (Back in the 60's Steve Ditko wanted the Green Goblin's secret identity to remain anonymous and Stan Lee disagreed. Ditko left the book, and the Goblin was revealed to be an already established member of Spider-Man's supporting cast. Ditko's direct influence on the series followed him right out the door.)


And also, Robin is now older in TNBA/Static Shock then he was in Batman Beyond: Return of the Jedi:p
So BB is already overwritten, no matter how many BB fans try to denie it.

Robin is older in Static Shock than he was in ROTJ? He seemed to be about the same age as he was in TNBA to me. Why do you think he is older? His voice sure wasn't any older.

I still don't feel like there is any hard evidence to support your theory. Now I respect the other posters who have said that in their opinion BB is an elseworlds, but it's still just an opinion, not a fact.

Toddman

Alexander
02-05-2002, 12:43 PM
Dude, get a life. It's a cartoon ok. BB is a possible future. It's not my opinion, it's something the producers say. And what the producers say is a fact, not opinion.

I meen, some fans were insulted by Lucas when he said that the lightsabers activate by switch and NOT by the will of the Jedi.
Or how about all those books about Boba Fett's history. It's not the truth untill George Lucas says so.
We now know that Boba Fett was a clone/Son of Jango Fett and that he was a child during the Clone Wars.


George W. Lucas is God of STAR WARS, and Bruce W. Timm is God in Batman animation. And if Timm says BB is a possible future, it's a possible future. He also clearly said it is an ALTERNATIVE REALITY in an interview late 1999. That's not my opinion, that is what he said.

It's just a cartoon. I meen, do you seriously believe i am REALLY in love with Barbara Gordon???

-PS, Yes the animators tried to make Robin look older in Static Shock and they admitted it.

DR. BELCH
02-05-2002, 12:51 PM
On one hand, Bruce admits he sees Jim Gordon as a father figure --he's the same age Thomas Wayne, if he'd lived, would be. So being with Babs would be almost like sleeping with his little sister. Ew.

On the other hand, she's pretty and intelligent...I could fall in love a woman significantly younger than myself if she were mature for her age.

Here's an odd pairing--The Ventriloquist and "Baby" Dahl. But would she fall for Arnold, or for Scarface? "I'm a puppet--yer a cupie doll. Kinda a match made in heaven, ain't it?"

Dark Knight
02-05-2002, 01:34 PM
[i]-PS, Yes the animators tried to make Robin look older in Static Shock and they admitted it. [/B]

Yeah he definately looked older on Static shock to me as well, but on the same tolken Static Shock has even LESS to say about the Batman Continuum than Batman Beyond.

Although I still say the Barbara-Bruce thing is only a possibility as well. It would be kind of lame if we knew what was DEFINATELY going to happen to TNBA characters when we will probably get new stories of that show before BB (through movies and JL etc. If not a revival of the show itself.)

Toddman
02-05-2002, 01:34 PM
Originally posted by Alexander
Dude, get a life. It's a cartoon ok. BB is a possible future. It's not my opinion, it's something the producers say. And what the producers say is a fact, not opinion.
... And if Timm says BB is a possible future, it's a possible future. He also clearly said it is an ALTERNATIVE REALITY in an interview late 1999. That's not my opinion, that is what he said.

I refer you to my earlier point.

For example: What you are saying is that if Bruce Timm were to quit Warner Bros. Animation or wind up stranded on a deserted island next week, and an episode of JL was aired without his creative input, and Timm absolutely hated the content and disagreed w/the overall storyline, then the events of that episode never happened. Because he is "God." That's just not right.

By that line of thinking, one could argue that Bob Kane is the true Almighty of Batman stories (and Timm is simply a minor diety). That would mean that every Batman story ever written (comics, animation, movies, etc.) that didn't flow from the pen of Bob Kane would all be a giant waste of time.


It's just a cartoon. I meen, do you seriously believe i am REALLY in love with Barbara Gordon???

Hey, whoa, I never said anything about you being in love w/Batgirl. You're lovelife is none of my business.


-PS, Yes the animators tried to make Robin look older in Static Shock and they admitted it.

You're saying that the animators intentionally wanted to make Robin look older than he did in ROTJ? I've never read or heard anything like that.

I'm not sure why you're bringing up Batman & Robin's appearance on Static Shock anyway. Bruce Timm's name was not listed anywhere on the credits of that episode, so according to your logic, that episode is moot. Zing!

Toddman

Maxie Zeus
02-05-2002, 03:49 PM
Just a reminder to keep things friendly around here. It's getting a little warm. . . .

Toddman
02-05-2002, 04:18 PM
Right on, Maxie. Just interested in keeping the debate lively, but still friendly. Hope I didn't sound too curt in any of my remarks.

(I'm probably just feeling bitter about the Super Bowl)

From St. Louis,

Toddman

Alexander
02-05-2002, 06:39 PM
A Jedi shall not know anger

The Game
02-05-2002, 08:47 PM
Dude, get a life. It's a cartoon ok.

Yeah, and Barbara Gordon is a cartoon character. J/k ;)


Hey, whoa, I never said anything about you being in love w/Batgirl. You're lovelife is none of my business.

LOL :D

Alexander
02-05-2002, 09:20 PM
Originally posted by thegame8866


Yeah, and Barbara Gordon is a cartoon character. J/k ;)



LOL :D


Yeah, but Alizee Jacotet isn't!!!

The Game
02-05-2002, 09:38 PM
Yeah, but Alizee Jacotet isn't!!!

Who is Alizee Jacotet? :confused:

Alexander
02-06-2002, 07:32 AM
Go to www.moi-alizee.com

oranthal
02-06-2002, 10:28 PM
tell that to Anakin Skywalker.


Originally posted by Alexander
A Jedi shall not know anger

Starman527
02-07-2002, 12:10 AM
I recall Tim Drake being 12 years old, not 14.

Mattashell
02-07-2002, 06:03 AM
In case everyone hasn't noticed THE WHOLE ANIMATED UNIVERSE IS ONE BIG "ELSEWORLDS" SERIES. And I consider BB to be a part of the continuity of everything else. Isn't it a major cop-out to shock us all with this major revelation and then go back on it by saying "well when we said all that it really didn't count"? If BB doesn't represent the future of B:TAS and TNBA then it shouldn't have been ever made. Frankly Batman Beyond is stylisticly superior and better written than TNBA, S:TAS and JL. It is second only to B:TAS and in case you didn't notice it premered after TNBA was no longer in production so I don't see any reason why it should interfere with that series since it doesn't conflict with anything from it by the time it ended.

I have noticed there is a great deal of BB hatin' going on on this board, and frankly I don't understand what's not to like. I found this series to be in the spirit of Frank Miller's The Dark Knight Returns, and it had major style. My only complaint is that it ended too soon and it fizzled toward the end. (too much Kobra)

Now after all that I would say that Bruce and Selina belong together. Although the word "cute" is certainly out of the question.

Mattashell

Starman527
02-10-2002, 11:47 PM
What the hell are you smoking? Batman Beyond was so crappy. Every episode was stupid pointless future crap. Max was annoying, the friggin' dog was pointless, Terry's family should've been killed with the dad, and the costume was ugly. Superman's series was just about one million times better. The seasons had overlapping themes, as did the entire series. Every episode dealing with Apokolips was awesome, and it introduced a ton of DCU characters into the animated universe. How many DC characters did BB introduce? Just the Royal Flush Gang and Barda.

Jack Napier
02-11-2002, 12:21 AM
Man it's all about Joker and Harley Quinn!

They have the greatest relationship, look at Mad Love...

Or even better Harlquinnade...

Jack Napier

Alexander
02-11-2002, 06:18 AM
Originally posted by Jack Napier
Man it's all about Joker and Harley Quinn!

They have the greatest relationship, look at Mad Love...

Or even better Harlquinnade...

Jack Napier

Yes Ofcource!! She's obsessed with him. He abuses her. Great relatioship indeed!

This is the absolute worst realatioship in the whole animated series!!

Naraht
02-11-2002, 08:30 AM
Originally posted by Alexander


Yes Ofcource!! She's obsessed with him. He abuses her. Great relatioship indeed!

This is the absolute worst realatioship in the whole animated series!!

Yes, but she loves the abuse (to an extent) and behind the abuse, the Joker has feelings (that he doesn't want to admit) for her....


I think it's cute

Toddman
02-11-2002, 11:11 AM
Originally posted by Starman527
How many DC characters did BB introduce? Just the Royal Flush Gang and Barda.

Not that this in any way contributes to the argument that Batman Beyond was a better series than you are giving it credit for (which it was), BUT to answer your question...

1. Royal Flush Gang
2. Barda
3. Starro
4. Kobra
5. Ace the Bathound
6. The Justice League
7. Spellbinder

Toddman

The Guitar Slayer
02-11-2002, 03:58 PM
I'm going to have to agree with the fact that BB is an elseworlds. To me, it's too depressing of an ending for good people. Bruce: old and alone. Barbara: old and cold. Dick: MIA. Tim: ROTJ was enough for me, thank you very much.

Dick and Barbara should definitely end up together; the one of the few reasons they didn't get together was because Robin was left uninformed of Batgirl's identity. Now that Nightwing and Batman have made ammends, I would think it absolutely possible that Babs and Dick would come together.

Tim deserves a better fate overall, as does Bruce.

Any rate.....

Dick and Barb definitely. :)

In the animated series, there didn't seem to a woman that 'loved' Bruce that wasn't a psychopath, a criminal or a plant :D

Harley deserves better.

Oooohh! <light bulb appears over head> If Annie (Clayface's kid) was made solid and was given treatment, Tim would a very happy camper ;).

Peace and Rock 'n' Roll
The Guitar Slayer :cool:

Nightflower
02-11-2002, 04:14 PM
Originally posted by Starman527
What the hell are you smoking? Batman Beyond was so crappy. Every episode was stupid pointless future crap. Max was annoying, the friggin' dog was pointless, Terry's family should've been killed with the dad, and the costume was ugly. Superman's series was just about one million times better. The seasons had overlapping themes, as did the entire series. Every episode dealing with Apokolips was awesome, and it introduced a ton of DCU characters into the animated universe. How many DC characters did BB introduce? Just the Royal Flush Gang and Barda.

Um.... there was probably a reason why a moderator had stepped in to remind us to keep things friendly earlier...

adoptedBatpuppy
02-11-2002, 04:18 PM
Terry and Melanie, his brother Matt and Tamara(Mind Games) could be cute couples. :)

Mattashell
02-11-2002, 04:26 PM
I would be happy to discuss why I like BB, but it does not belong in this thread.

Matta

Clark J. Kent
02-11-2002, 08:08 PM
Yeah, let's go... Clark Kent, the party-pooper. But I guess I may as well say it.

I don't want anyone on these shows to get together for the sake of getting together. It's uninteresting, it's unrealistic, it's stupid. It's like Clark and Lois... weren't things always more interesting in the books before Lois knew Clark and Superman were the same? Wasn't the tension great between them?

And I realize that this isn't quite the same, since there wouldn't necessarily be the same sort of triangles in the relationships you are all suggesting, but it seems stupid to me for Killer Croc and Poison Ivy to get together, or Nightwing and Supergirl. That's me, and I'm just more interested in telling stories than telling soap operas.

However, if you're discussing this for fun and, like myself, you don't want to see these romances happen on thet shows either, I like Kyle Rayner (S:TAS) and Supergirl together. :)