"Wrestling Society X" Talkback (Spoilers)

[Matt Hazuda]

http://library.toonzone.net/talkbacks/wsx.jpgMTV's new wrestling show has a stealth preview tonight at 11pm EST and will also be airing in its regular timeslot, Tuesdays at 10:30PM starting next week. I'll see if I can get some decent info together. May as well see what the new competition has to offer, if nothing else for the possible train wreck it could be.

[Frank Castle]

I'm gonna check it out. It will probably be worse than the new ECW, but I'll give it a look.

[EinBebop]

After you cut out MTV's insane amount of commercials, I think that given the talent involved it'll be a very entertaining twelve minutes of programming

[VCXZX]

The ring announcer whoever he is is going to grate on me. Yes he's that annoying.

I liked how they showed the musical act for 30 seconds. That saves lots of time for in-ring wrestling.

The hell is the musical act commentating for? I think I'll mute it for the time being.

People talk about how TNA needs more time. WSX needs another 1/2 hour since MTV's commercial breaks are pretty long.

great to see NEW JACK and Teddy Hart appear. I hope they get lots of TV time.

Battle Royale or whatever it was called was very weird. I liked New Jack and Teddy kicking butt, as well as Vampiro showing up. But I could do without the cheesy explosions. Still decent action.

So overall, I actually liked this more than a lot of the recent RAW's/ECW's. They still have a lot to improve though but I'll be watching.

[Frank Castle]

Not bad considering the time taken away from commercials. This fed reminds me a lot of CZW.

[langden alger]

gee that was... well uhhh:shrug:

i can't wait for the piranha tank match.

[James Bester]

I only caught the final part of the battle royal, and I had no idea what was going on. It was like the old ECW, only with cheesy effects, bad announcers, and really sloppy camera work. The explosions really weren't needed. However, the wrestling was great. What can I say? I'm a huge of fan of hardcore wrestling. Judging by the preview from the end, it looks like this could be a decent show. I know I'll be watching this instead of WWECW on Tuesdays from now on. But man, I was really hoping Justin Credible would get one of the spots in the title match. Oh well, Vampiro and 6-Pac should put on a great match anyway.

But they really need to improve the representation of this show. The talent's great, but the people producing it seem to have no clue how to represent it. I hate the fact that this show has to be on MTV.

[The Myst]

I liked how they showed the musical act for 30 seconds. That saves lots of time for in-ring wrestling.

The hell is the musical act commentating for? I think I'll mute it for the time being.

Their name is Black Label Society and they kick ass. Sometimes. Other times they kinda suck.

The hell is the musical act commentating for? I think I'll mute it for the time being.

His name is Zakk Wylde and he kicks ass. Sometimes. Other times he's a bit of a dick. But he plays the guitar real well for Ozzy.

Anyway, this was more entertaining than any WWE shows in a long time. I like it.

[EinBebop]

Hmm... they said go to the website for the wsxtra show, but I can't find it... just a plug for it. Maybe have to wait until tuesday; would like to see one of the two matches being featured-- puma vs human tornado.

Too much reliance on gimmicky exploding things, and too overproduced... although at the same time, the overproduced part keeps up a pace you can't take your eyes off of. What else can you do in the short time they have?

I can't say I was disappointed, though... I'm an indy mark who loved seeing guys like Evans, Sydal, Hart, and Hamrick getting national exposure.

My biggest gripe with this show is the use of New Jack. He's a sadistic jerk, and no promoter in their right mind should hire him.

Man, I had tickets to that first taping a year ago, and decided it wasn't worth the drive from Bakersfield to LA. I'm regretting that now.

BTW, in case you don't remember him, Aaron Aguillera was Carlito's flunkyfrom a few years ago, Jesus.

[Robin2099]

Ummm wow. That might be the worst debut for a wrestling show since AWA debuted in the 90's with their round system. Among the weirdness of the show
-The announcers calling the match were terrible. And why was the band commentating?
-Since it's only a half hour, the matches are so rushed it's ridiculous. It really should be an hour.
-Man the ring announcer was annoying.
Overall, I'll give it one more shot, but it right now reminds me more of the Def Jam Vendetta game(the first one) then it does a wrestling show. Personally I don't think it will last since it doesn't seem to know what it wants to be.

[The Myst]

My biggest gripe with this show is the use of New Jack. He's a sadistic jerk, and no promoter in their right mind should hire him.

New Jack is awesome. He's so hilariously insane and dangerous. It's fun.

-The announcers calling the match were terrible. And why was the band commentating?

Does nobody here but me know who Zakk Wylde is? And Zakk was the only one of the band that commentated.

[Andy Mancini]

I only caught the final part of the battle royal, and I had no idea what was going on. It was like the old ECW, only with cheesy effects, bad announcers, and really sloppy camera work.
Yeah... it used to be called "XPW." All this was was an XPW revival with better cameras, a bigger roster and less blatant pornography. Seriously... let's see how many XPW alums were involved with the first episode:

Vampiro
Six-Pac
Justin Credible
New Jack
Kaos
Supreme (he apparently trained Youth Suicide)
Luke Haux (the former Alter Boy Luke)
GQ Money (He was the ring announcer)
Kriss Kloss
Kevin Kleinrock

And according to their website, former XPW champion "White Trash" Johnny Webb and Matt Cross will also be making appearances. ECW is dead and now should have remained dead. XPW is in the same boat.

[Marvin Tikvah]

It just finished airing over here. It looks like a cross between old ECW and Japanese wrestling...and I liked it.

I saw lots of old faces in the roster. Though I'm guessing most of them aren't going to be around much longer due to those short contracts some of them signed.

I like that, unlike TNA, WSX acknowledges the wrestlers accomplishments in other companies. Though they should be more clear on the titles they've hold. I'm sure Justin Credible and X-Pac never were WWE Champions.

So I think I'll be skipping the 2nd half of ECW from now on unless CM Punk and RVD get to ever main event, and watching this instead. It definitely needs more time though. And less explosions that seemed so staged.

[Fifi Fanatic]

WHOA! Come Tuesday night this thing is gonna blow "ECW" right out of the water! ANd why? Because it's doing exactly what "ECW" is supposed to be doing!

I would have expected 6-Pac vs. Justin Credible for the title, since those are probably the two most familiar guys to the average "mainstream" wrestling fan. Still, 6-Pac and Vampiro will probably give us something good.

And yes, it's good to see them acknowledge these guys' past championships. I still remember when Ricky Steamboat first arrived in WWF and everybody was acting like he was newly arrived rookie. C'mon now!

We already know Teddy Hart's gonna be good.... He's a Hart! :cool:

I have never witnessed a piranha tank match before. That I must see! :D

*Stops chanting "ECW" and starts chanting "WSX!"*

[Matt Hazuda]

I make the bloody topic for this thing and of course I fall asleep before it comes on and wakes up about an hour too late afterwards :sweat:

Does MTV.com put up shows? Otherwise, it looks like I won't be seeing an episode till this Tuesday it seems.

I'm not sure if we want to do a weekly talkback for this or make this a talkback for the entire "season." Thoughts?

[VCXZX]

You know some people on your buddy list did remind you about the show coming on almost before the start of the show. :o

As for watching the episodes online, as of now the 1st episode isn't up. The WSX site does have a few trailers up, but nothing that good at all.

http://www.mtv.com/ontv/dyn/wsx/series.jhtml

They're supposed to I believe, have an extended edition of each episode online with the entire match which may be clipped due to being on mtv. Although mtv.com is AWFUL to navigate online nowadays after they redesigned the site to make it more flash-happy.

I guess I would make just one thread about WSX rather than a new talkback a week. Similar to the Heat Talkback.

[The Penguin]

I gotta say, I really enjoyed this. There was a palpable energy in the arena (which had a neat, run-down feel). Vince Russo is slowly turning TNA into a WWE with lower production values, so Wrestling Society X could be the place for just wrestling. Other than feuds, I don't see much story, 'extreme' dance teams or flag burning happening in this promotion.

Matt Sydal and Jack Evans really brought it in the opening match with awesome high-flying moves. I was really impressed with both of them and would like to see more.

That tag team video moved to fast for me to really catch much of anything.

The WSX Rumble was a bit cliche with the tables and the explosions and everything, but it was still a neat contest. Of the guys I didn't already know (just Credible, Vampiro, 6-Pac and New Jack) I was most impressed with Teddy Hart. I hope we see a lot more of this athletic member of the Hart wrestling family. I too expected Justin Credible (didn't think he'd be able to go by that) and 6-Pac, but Vampiro and his chub shirt will do.


And if some of you don't like ECW, that's your call, but WSX is on MTV, so I expect it will be on about five times in between Tuesday premieres. I intend to watch a replay.

[hobbyfan]

Missed the opening match, but that's what the replay's for.

The battle royal was pretty cool, and illustrated that WSX is exactly what ECW is supposed to be, if it wasn't corporately neutered by Vince McMahon. New Jack wasn't an official contestant, but rather followed Chris Hamrick into the match and just beat him down. I don't know if there's legit heat between those two, but it gives WSX a storyline right off the bat.

I know people are griping about all the titles won listed as a generalization, but if you go to the website, you see that each man's title history is broken down into greater detail (i.e. 6-Pac's 4 WWF/E tag team titles and 2 light heavyweight titles among his 11 championships). Good to see Vampiro again. This was taped well before the start of ECW 2.0, and Credible was used there as a JTTS, a total insult to what the man accomplished in the original ECW.

It's been reported that WWE is taking a look at a few people. Teddy Hart (DUH!), Jack Evans, & Matt Sydal have been mentioned. Won't be surprised if Waltman ends up going back for one more go-round. Have to correct the announcers. Waltman wasn't an original member of DX. He replaced Shawn Michaels in the group in March '98 after Wrestlemania 14. I know. I was there.

WSX won't succeed for too long if it keeps the 30-minute format. Never mind that MTV'd play it to death, but a good move would be to unite WSX with TNA and do some cross-promoting between the two. Ultimately, they'd have to expand WSX to an hour and keep the music to a minimum. A bare minimum, but remember that MTV severed its ties to WWE 4 years ago when Heat was shunted off to Spike and Tough Enough was cancelled, and lost track of their mission statement long ago.

[Matt Hazuda]

For those that missed it (me :sweat:), there will be one more re-airing before Tuesday's premiere. Sunday night at midnight EST.

[New Noise]

there will be one more re-airing before Tuesday's premiere

Thanks for the information.

I missed it... I thought it started the 30th... :sad:

[The Myst]

Ultimately, they'd have to expand WSX to an hour and keep the music to a minimum. A bare minimum, but remember that MTV severed its ties to WWE 4 years ago when Heat was shunted off to Spike and Tough Enough was cancelled, and lost track of their mission statement long ago.

Aside from Zakk commentating, there's wasn't really any music at all. They played through the opening and for like 30 seconds after but that was the only thing music related in the show.

[hobbyfan]

Turns out the Sunday replay didn't happen. They ran Cribs at midnight. 2 back-2-back. Typical MTV. Making late changes to suit themselves and not the audience.

[PTurkey]

Saw this last night. It's like FMW and XPW gave birth to a kid with ADD and named it WSX. It'll be interesting, to say the least.
- Sydal and Evans rule.
- I loved name dropping of indy feds and the "WWF."
- The extra SFX are really silly and they should cut down on that.
- I can't wait until they bust out the fish.


http://www.wsx.mtv.com/
The first edition of WSXtra is up: Puma vs. Luke Hawk vs. Human Tornado

It's a good match. More action-packed and longer than what you'd get in your average iMPACT X-Div match nowadays. And it feels like they cut away a lot less than they did in the real show.
Human Tornado is awesome, but I was disappointed he didn't do his pimp-slapping schtick he does in the indys. Maybe next time.
Also, GQ Money is so annoying. I seriously hope New Jack Mass Transits him one of these days.
And it kinda doesn't seem right that Lacey is just a host.

[Tapout]

Human Tornado is awesome, but I was disappointed he didn't do his pimp-slapping schtick he does in the indys. Maybe next time.
Doesn't he also do a bit where he's immune to nut shots?

[EinBebop]

WSX pulled in a 1.0 rating last night... pretty impressive, considering that the most dedicated wrestling already saw it a few days before.

This actually could be very good for ECW, as it gets more attention. Or it could just mean more Vince McMahon and John Cena. But consider this... failure is no longer an option for ECW. It's now a matter of pride.

[RedNinja84]

I caught the end of the of the rerun last match and found it somewhat interesting. I was happy to see some familiar faces and happy to see Teddy Hart, I've heard a lot of good things about him. The show production though is bad and worse than the original ECW. Bad commentators, explosions are not needed and bad camera work just really bug me. They kept showing the crowd during the match and you miss the action on the ring. The talent though saves the show and I guess I'll watch 123 Kid, i mean syxx. x-pac, sick pac, whatever his name his mane is and a fat, out of shape Vampiro wrestle.

[elfwithagun]

very nice 1st show. except for the random explosions, and the shoddy camera work.

6 pac vs vampiro. Im up for it!:)

[The Myst]

Three Six Mafia? BOOOO!!!!!

[VCXZX]

The Human Tornado is amazing. I hope WSX features him more because he has more charisma than anyone today in the brief period that he was in the ring. I just hope the WWE doesn't sign him because they'll take eveerything unique about him and turn him generic or some crappy gimmick.

[The Myst]

The Human Tornado is amazing. I hope WSX features him more because he has more charisma than anyone today in the brief period that he was in the ring. I just hope the WWE doesn't sign him because they'll take eveerything unique about him and turn him generic or some crappy gimmick.

I doubt he'd go to WWE. Didn't he briefly retire because they jobbed Booker at Mania 19?

[VCXZX]

The tag match was very fun. I liked the odd antics of That 70's team as well as DragonGate kicking butt.

Main event wasn't anything special. At least Vampiro won the belt.

Overall, another decent WSX. They do have a few flaws though like the pacing of the show is very similar to Crash TV. With too much going on at one point, like the aftermath of the opening tilt. AS well as the God-awful ring-announcing, and the musical performances and commentary featuring said musical performers.

[Matt Hazuda]

Am I the only one annoyed at the multitude of angles they're trying to develop in these past two episodes? I know nothing about many of the wrestlers, so I'm just not really not caring about any of them.

[PTurkey]

YES! Tornado's Pimp-Slap-after-getting-low-blowed spot makes its national TV debut! I love it!

Dragon Gate! I love them too! That 70s Team's gimmick! I love that too! Joey Ryan's butt! I love that too!

X-Pac vs. Vampiro! That was okay. The exploding casket was hilarious.

And like what's the deal with all the hot chicks in the audience? Where the heck are they when I watch indy shows? That's just blatent audience planting by MTV right there, I'll tell ya.

Good show. Better than last week's.

ALSO: Three Six Mafia! I love them too, just because they managed to do something I thought was impossible: single handedly mading me care about Mark Henry. (Somebody gonna get their ass whipped! Somebody gonna get thieir wig split!) Zakk Wylde never did anything like that, so that's another something this week did better than last's

[Frank Castle]

And like what's the deal with all the hot chicks in the audience? Where the heck are they when I watch indy shows? That's just blatent audience planting by MTV right there, I'll tell ya.

Trying to find a woman in the old ECW was like playing a game of "Where's Waldo?". But yeah with the exception of the title match, it was a very solid show.

[PTurkey]

http://www.wsx.mtv.com/
New WSXtra:

The Trailer Park Boyz ("Spider" Nate Webb & Josh Raymond) w/ Johnny Webb
vs.
Doin' It For Her (Jimmy Jacobs & Tyler Black)

Matt Sydal w/ Lizzy Valentine
vs.
Matt Classic [aka Colt Cabana]

Also, that annoying ring announcer/WSXtra host GQ Money Fabien Kaelin loses his voice.

TPB vs. DIFH: Good match. Nice to see Jimmy Jacobs not being creepy like he is in RoH. Cool moves from both teams. I mark for the Cattle Mutilation + Standing Shooting Star Press.

Sydal vs. Classic: Classic's gimmick is hilarious. The commentators actually do a decent job of putting it over (and even reference Star Man from Pro Wrestling), and Cabana pulls it off so well. It's also a great showcase of Sydal's abilities, especially that sick reverse hurricanrana.

[The Penguin]

Well I completely spaced on the Friday sneak preview or whatever so I had to wait and watch it last night.

I had looked away so I guess I missed Human Tornado’s “balls of steel” defense against Luke Hawx, but I’m pretty much okay with that. Very short match, but even in the brand looking to be the real alternative, it was more about what happened afterward with the tag teams.

While I don’t quite get the name ‘The Filth and the Fury’ I look forward to seeing more of Teddy Hart. I’m excited to check out Matt Cross as well.

The tag match was pretty good, both teams were fairly impressive, but overall I liked Team Dragon Gate a little bit better. Yoshino (the younger one) is quite the fireball in the ring. That 70’s Team had a really good look too.

I don’t believe I’ll be getting excited about the Trailer Park Boyz.

I kind of thought WSX would have gone with 6-Pac, but Vampiro works I guess. I like watching it, but I don’t really know where this organization is going as a whole, if anywhere.


Am I the only one annoyed at the multitude of angles they're trying to develop in these past two episodes? I know nothing about many of the wrestlers, so I'm just not really not caring about any of them.I'm kind of there with you, there is a lot going on right now. I'm just kind of waiting for it all to calm down. In the mean time, the only new guy I care about is Teddy Hart and that's just because of his family ties.

[Marvin Tikvah]

1st match was too short, but I was impressed with Human Tornado. The tag team match was decent and completely surprised me with the finish since I expected Team Dragon Gate to win. Championship match was very good and had me glued till the end. I'm glad it was Vampiro who won since I really don't think 6-Pac can carry a show like this.

[elfwithagun]

who do yall think will get the first shot at Vampiro's title?

[sdp]

lmao this is so cheesy and fast that it is actually entertaining.

'serious' wrestling is just dumb,
but over the top cheesyness and cool moves gets my vote,

of course i don't know if they are doing it on purpose or not, but i can see this getting cancelled fast.

I'd compare it in style to Kaijou Big Battle.

http://static.flickr.com/69/207206831_1a2241bf82.jpg

[VCXZX]

Yeah I was more entertained with WSX then ECW tonight. Its a shame though that the Friday night stealth premieres are a thing of the past. :sad:

Good to see teddy Hart again. That opener was great. What was also great was Sparta's commentary. They actually listed a variety of their favorite wrestlers and they didn't make idiotic statements or boring bits.

But the best part was MATT CLASSIC. I think I may have a new favorite gimmick now.

Next week should be fun with the return of Human Tornado.

[PTurkey]

Good show, again.

This new(?) picture-in-picture of the commentators works so much better than cutting to them every 2 minutes. And Kris Kloss is trying too hard to look young.

The electrocution was hilarious, and I think one of the chicks in the audience agreed. It's too bad Teddy Hart's such an unprofessional jerk out of the ring, 'cause he's a fantastic high-flyer and OMG FLIPPING TIGER DRIVER.

I love campy gimmicks like Matt Classic. A golden age wrestler who went into a coma? That origin story almost beats out Chikara Pro's Lance Steel's, the time-displaced noble knight who later used a time machine to get a younger version of himself when he needed a tag team partner.

HUMAN TORNADO next week OMG. Sean Waltman too? meh.

[EinBebop]

Come on, MTV, is it really that hard to start shows on time? Or are your production guys too busy smoking the weed?

[dxfan4life]

I am loving it man it would be nice to see 6 pac the champ

[EinBebop]

I am loving it man it would be nice to see 6 pac the champYou are dead to me.

[langden alger]

What was also great was Sparta's commentary


it would have been gold to have jbl on commentary with those guys. he'd have two micheal coles' for the price of one.;)

nothing but spot fest matches, but understandbale for not only the style of this federatrion, but also the time allotted...they'd need the full half hour for a more bret hart style ring psychology match...

matt classic does indeed look like a great, fun gimmick...a shame from what i understand he'll only be an internet exclusive...they need him on actual tv.

was hoping they would actually mention 'shades of the undertaker' during the 'rope walk' move, since they have no prob refrencing all feds, but it cool.

i would have liked to see an actual in ring promo from vampiro about his new title reighn, but i guess we'lll get that with the x-pac segment next week.

[ZumbidoMetal]

I don't want to spoil anything, but I wouldn't get too excited about The Human Tornado's appearance next week.

[Djm912]

Not even MTV can ruin Human Tornado......can they?

[hobbyfan]

I was flipping back & forth between WSX & ECW, but I didn't miss Teddy Hart's corkscrew senton through the table. Totally swank!! It's a pity Season 1 of WSX was taped a year ago, which will make it difficult to get everyone back for season 2. I'll watch a replay on Friday to get a better idea of things.

If they're smart, Matt Classic will appear on TV instead of just on the internet. We can all use a good laugh.

[Matt Hazuda]

I was flipping back & forth between WSX & ECW, but I didn't miss Teddy Hart's corkscrew senton through the table. Totally swank!! It's a pity Season 1 of WSX was taped a year ago, which will make it difficult to get everyone back for season 2. I'll watch a replay on Friday to get a better idea of things.

If they're smart, Matt Classic will appear on TV instead of just on the internet. We can all use a good laugh.Well, s2 is apparently taping in March, and a lot of the bigger players are under long-term contracts. Teddy Hart's lasts like 3 years I read, so WWE can't go and cherry-pick talent like they probably want to.

[Frank Castle]

Man the commercial breaks and the short show length really hurts this show. As soon as I get into a match, it ends right away or a 5 minute commercial break starts.

[The Penguin]

I half-watched the show with some of my RAs and it was some ridiculous fun, but I felt like I turned around and it was over.

I don't get the name "The Flith & the Fury" but I like Teddy Hart and Matt Matt Cross so it doesn't matter too much to me. I was glad to see the Trailer Park Boyz lose and all the high-flying action was great and the electrocution was something else.

Kind of watching the whole Matt Classic vignette I felt like I had no idea what was going on. It looked stupid.

Jack Evans and El Hombre-whatever was a pretty decent match, I find I don't have much else to say, must not have been paying close enough attention.

Aaron Aguilera cares about "mamacitas" and "cervezas" or at least talks about them so much that it is just ridiculous. I find it annoying and not in a "oh I hate that character" kind of way. Alkatrazz & Luke Hawx barely had to show up.

[Marvin Tikvah]

After watching WSXtra, I strongly believe Matt Classic deserves TV time.

[VCXZX]

Here's some troubling news about the future of WSX:

n the midst of major shakeups within the network's executive end, MTV has pulled the fourth episode of MTV Wrestling Society X from next week's scheduled airing at 10:30 PM. While the actual yanking of the episode was due to an issue with the MTV's standards and practices department, sources claim that the network is also trying to change their strategy moving forward, both with WSX and other first-run programming. A program titled "Scarred" will run next Tuesday in WSX's usual timeslot.
The pulled WSX episode was slated to feature the debut of IWA Puerto Rico star Ricky Banderas, during an angle where he would throw a fireball into WSX champion Vampiro's face. MTV initially approved the storyline and stunt when it was filmed during WSX's taping in Los Angeles. Once the network received and reviewed the episode, however, the decision was made to not allow it to air due to concerns over viewers possibly recreating the stunt. Since the fireball angle was one of the company's main storylines for the length of their episodes, the situation went back and forth within the network and has yet to be resolved, so the episode was pulled.
In a January interview with PWInsider.com, Wrestling Society X producer Kevin Klinerock discussed MTV's issues with producing a product that would feature violent stunts, commenting, "The biggest issue that standard and practices, and everyone at MTV has - and it's understandable. The concern is, 'How easy is it for some kid, some viewer, to replicate what they are seeing?' They don't want us swinging light tubes. Understood. An exploding casket, however, is not seen in the same light on the same scale of sheer violence of swinging a light tube; a kid's not going to be able to get an exploding casket in their backyard. That's their concern. It doesn't come from a sake of wanting or not wanting something to be seen on television, they have real series concerns. They've lived through a number of lawsuits from kids watching and imitating "Jacka**" and similar things, and it's just their set of standards that the entire network lives by. It doesn't matter if it's a wrestling show or "The Real World." It's just a standard of rules that everyone has to live by. "The standard [MTV uses] is how easy is it for someone to replicate it. That's what we have to look at when it comes to stunts and violence. It's not a whitewash WCW using cotton candy as weapons by any stretch of the imagination. It's definitely got your mix of extreme and your mix of entertaining in-ring high flying action. We give a little bit of each in each episode, the extreme violence and the excellent high flying technical in-ring wrestling. I think we accomplish that. Most episodes were laid out that way."
Additionally, MTV as a network is in a major state of flux at the moment with ratings for their original programming (including their top series, Two-A-Days) down across the board. In response, parent company Viacom has let go of over 250 employees in the last several days including several high ranking executives, with some given two week notices and other departments being completely shut down.
Among those fired, according to today's edition of entertainment trade publication The Hollywood Reporter was Paul DeBenedittis, who held the position of Executive Vice President of "multiplatform programming, content strategy and scheduling at MTV". DeBendittis was responsible for MTV's programming decisions, including placing WSX up against WWE's ECW (http://www.pwinsider.com/ViewArticle.asp?id=22952&p=1#) on Sci Fi.
Sources claim the network is re-evaluating the programming currently airing on the network. Its possible that moving forward, WSX may be moved to another timeslot to get it away from the competition of ECW.
When asked whether the series was in danger of being canceled after garnering just a 0.5 rating this week with its third episode, WSX sources noted MTV had already paid for the production of the 10 filmed episodes and that it wouldn't make sense for the network to not air what they had already invested in. The hope is that once the situation within the network settles down, it will be a positive change overall for the series. WSX sources indicate that Wrestling Society X is currently scheduled to return on Tuesday 2/27 at 10:30 PM (although that could conceivably change as things evolve from the standards and practices end of MTV). Independent listings, including TVGuide.com, currently back that claim.


Damn shame. Considering this was a promotion that had lots of potential. I guess MTV did not want a redux of the infamous "Fire" controversy from Beavis and Butt-head.

I hope this doesn't mean that's the end of WSX.

[Frank Castle]

There goes Vince's motivation to at least put some effort into ECW.

[PTurkey]

They have problems with a fireball, yet no problems with electrocution and sticking peoples heads in fish tanks filled with pirahna? It's kinda hard to learn how to throw fireballs from just watching it on TV. It would probably be the least obvious of WSX's stunts. They should just chalk the fireball up to some kind of Puerto Rican magic, like how they explain The Great Muta's Mist by saying he has a poison gland in his throat.

And Two-A-Days is seriously their highest rated program? That show's so uninteresting.

EDIT: And after seeing the fireball on YouTube, I can actually see why they're afraid to show it. That thing looked a lot more dangerous than all the other fireball spots I've seen.

[The Penguin]

http://library.toonzone.net/talkbacks/wsx.jpg
I didn’t expect the show would be on, but I checked MTV and there it was! I missed the opening musical guest, but I really didn’t care. Even though I had to go through the rest of the show not knowing whose commentary I was hating.

I loved the way Matt Sydal finished off Scorpio Sky!! That was a great move. Teddy Hart and Sydal are probably my favorites so far.

So Jack Evans just kicked a kid named Marcus Riot that wants to be a wrestler and then he has a match? I realize that WSX is a lot different, but I still don’t like hearing things like “I’ve seen your stuff on the internet.”

Despite the crowd shots, Keepin’ It Gangsta really took it to That 70’s Team. Disco Machine and Joey Ryan seem like colorful jobbers based on what we’ve seen so far.

I can’t say I was impressed with “The Anarchist” Arik Cannon. Maybe he’s great in the ring, but his promo didn’t show me much.

6-Pac interrupting what was looking to be a short main event was okay with me, but I wasn’t thrilled either. The massive edit of the fireball was disappointing. I guess I don’t usually look at WSXtra, is the unedited version there?

[PTurkey]

I am so glad WSX is back.

Matt Sydal vs Scorpio Sky was great. Nice finish.

They just went overboard with the sparkling effect's on Keepin' it Gangsta's Diamond-encrusted ladder. Pretty cool somersault dropkick from Ruckus. KiG > Cryme Tyme. And Joey Ryan needs to stop showing ass.

Disappointed that El Hombre Blanco Enmascarado vs. Human Tornado never happened. With talent like guys like Evans, Tornado, Sydal, et al, and this being an MTV show, it's kinda perplexing how this promotion's title scene consists of two old guys.

WSXtra:
DIFH (Jimmy Jacobs & Tyler Black) vs. Team Dragon Gate (Genki Horiguchi & Masato Yoshino)

Noticable H-A-G-E chants for Horiguchi (Hage is Japanese for "Bald"). I guess there's some puro/hardcore wresting fans among the all the actors.

Jack Evans vs. Markus Riot


6-Pac interrupting what was looking to be a short main event was okay with me, but I wasn’t thrilled either. The massive edit of the fireball was disappointing. I guess I don’t usually look at WSXtra, is the unedited version there?Nope, but it's on YouTube: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jpbGzljDCQo

I can’t say I was impressed with “The Anarchist” Arik Cannon. Maybe he’s great in the ring, but his promo didn’t show me much.
Arik Cannon? Not great in the ring either. Just a fat guy who likes doing head-droppy moves.

[The Penguin]

Arik Cannon? Not great in the ring either. Just a fat guy who likes doing head-droppy moves.That's what I was thinking, but I didn't want to judge him too quickly. Thanks for the link too.

[EinBebop]

Cannon's been a regular for IWA Mid-South forever, but he never managed to do anything to make me care.

[langden alger]

Nope, but it's on YouTube: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jpbGzljDCQo


that looked alot beter than the mortal kombat looking special effects edit they used.

[Marvin Tikvah]

I almost forgot WSX was in last night until I was thinking what ECW would be like if they had actually pushed ECW alumni.

Anyway, it was a great show, with more wrestling than hardcore stuff than usual, but I hated that fireball edit at the end. It just look so horribly done. Not to mention now WSX has a maskless Kane rip-off. And it's not Snitsky.

[Robin2099]

Well bad news, according to pwinsider, WSX has been cancelled already by MTV. It's unknown if the remaining episodes will air or not.

[Frank Castle]

That sucks. Well I enjoyed it while it lasted.

[Hurricane V1]

My understanding is that the show isn't owned by MTV. There's a possibility that it could air on another channel. Though I don't know what channel would air WSX. G4 maybe?

[The Penguin]

http://library.toonzone.net/talkbacks/wsx.jpgWell WSX is on MTV right now and it appears several episodes are airing in a row. I'm not sure if they are all new because MTV.com and its heavy flash site is giving me troubles, however the WSX Wikipedia entry says five new episodes are airing right after each other tonight.