Toon Zone Talkback - Oscar Nominations for Best Animated Feature Film of the Year Announced [Archive]

Rasputin

01-23-2007, 11:47 AM

I'll be crossing my fingers for Monster House, but I'm disappointed at there being only 3 nominations. I really wanted A Scanner Darkly and Paprika to be given a chance. Danged Luc Besson dragging his feet to release his film and making more than 30% of it live-action.

So for the 3 nominations there are, they're pretty much the 'well duh' obvious choices, but Monster House is still a good movie, so I hope it wins.

As for the shorts, someone please remind me to see them at some point. I am a horrible, horrible philistine.

Dudley

01-23-2007, 11:53 AM

Well, Cars is better than Monster House, IMO. I've never seen Happy Feet.
I honestly don't know who's gonna win. But I'll root for Cars.

Tay the Cat

01-23-2007, 12:00 PM

Happy Feet is easily the best of the 3.

Baltofan

01-23-2007, 12:02 PM

2007 - Happy Feet and No Time For Nuts

2008 - Ratatouille

Pepperidge

01-23-2007, 01:07 PM

Monster House all the way, but I too am disappointed that Paprika and A Scanner Darkly couldn't make the cut.

Cars was OK, but I'd say that Monster House is far more deserving of the award.

purplehairedwonder

01-23-2007, 01:13 PM

I've seen all three and Happy Feet was definitely the best of the three. I liked them all, but I just don't think Cars and Monster House were up to par with it.

Lord Dalek

01-23-2007, 01:32 PM

Classic Speedy

01-23-2007, 01:49 PM

Cars has the distinctive advantage of being the only film of this three, no matter how derivative people have claimed it to be, that I actually enjoyed (Monster House was too pedestrian and Happy Feet was just WEIRD).

In terms of shorts give it to Rydstrom. This must have been a stretch for him. I recall saying Cars had a definite formula, but the way they presented the formula was so enjoyable that I didn't mind. Too much. So yeah, I'd like for it to win.

Haven't seen Monster House or Happy Feet, though, so that may not be an entirely fair statement to make.

Discloner

01-23-2007, 01:50 PM

All three were wonderful films...so it'll be a tight race and regardless of who wins it'll be a well deserved victory.

That being said, I think I'm going to have to change my prior hope for Monster House to win, to Happy Feet. Despite being in the vein of 'talking animals on an adventure', I honestly thought Happy Feet's story was the most solid and enjoyable. Cars, while still a fantastic film, felt rather generic and predictable...while Monster House teeters somewhere in between.

It'll definitely be interesting to see who takes it.

ToOn~g@l

01-23-2007, 02:05 PM

Oh thats a really hard choice between Cars and Happy Feet because both were really good and had great animation. But I'm gonna go with Happy Feet because Pixar's been an oscar winner for a while with Finding Nemo and The Incredibles.

Mr. Manager

01-23-2007, 02:41 PM

I'm a bit pissed at the nomminees for animated feature film. I mean, I expected five films to be chosen, yet there were three. Don't get me wrong. All of those were good films. However, out of any year the category existed, this year should have had five nods (those being Cars, Curious George, Happy Feet, Monster House, and A Scanner Darkly). It just shows even more that the Academy has a distaste for animated films. The fact that animated movies aren't nominated for best picture, ever since the category was added, is just awful. Same with foreign films. In my opinion, Spirited Away deserved to be nominated for best picture in 2003.

That being said, I'm hoping Happy Feet wins.

Tay the Cat

01-23-2007, 02:43 PM

I'm a bit pissed at the nomminees for animated feature film. I mean, I expected five films to be chosen, yet there were three.

You can thank Luc Besson for that, even though his movie was still pretty good.

HG Revolution

01-23-2007, 05:20 PM

KuwabaraTheMan

01-23-2007, 05:39 PM

I hope Cars wins, it was definitely one of the best animated films in recent years.

Tay the Cat

01-23-2007, 05:52 PM

I hope Cars wins, it was definitely one of the best animated films in recent years.

That's what I thought at first, but then late in the year I saw some movies that didn't do nearly as well, but were better.

Discloner

01-23-2007, 06:46 PM

It just shows even more that the Academy has a distaste for animated films. The fact that animated movies aren't nominated for best picture, ever since the category was added, is just awful. The lack of more noms isn't really the fault of the academy. Besson's film simply doesn't quality as an animated film as per the regulations that have been width standing since the category was created. And even then it's not really Besson's fault - he made the film he wanted to make regardless of the ratio it balanced. There were more films released this year that were not submitted to the Academy, such as Doogal, which while may not be Oscar material, could have widened the category to five noms.

Fact of the matter is, rules are rules and regardless as to how much the academy likes or dislikes the animated medium - they've got to follow what they set up.

As for the latter, this isn't so much a fault of the academy but the general American stigma of "A good film". Like it or not, people do not view animated films - regardless of where they origin, as a form of serious artistic film making. Fact of the matter is, most of the time they aren't; its a medium that's been built up and is continually used as a means to entertain children - rather then for telling a dramatic and/or artistic tale akin to what most Best Picture noms are. So with a few exceptions - I can't blame the academy for not nominating an animated film for best picture, because for the most part I haven't seen one that deserves it. Even out of all of this year's animated flicks.

Don't forget however...that in 1992, Beauty and the Beast WAS nominated for Best Picture; and this was prior to a category was dedicated to the medium, AND the medium itself wasn't as wildly popular as it is today.

Anthonynotes

01-23-2007, 07:22 PM

Will win: Cars
Should win: Cars I guess (didn't see Monster House or Happy Feet, neither of which looked interesting to me)

-B.
Isn't too excited about most of the live-action nominees either...

Lonestarr

01-23-2007, 07:36 PM

Cars was OK, but I'd say that Monster House is far more deserving of the award.

That's pretty much my opinion on the matter.

Chris Wood

01-23-2007, 07:40 PM

Haven't seen Happy Feet, but I'll be pulling for Monster House.

tb4000

01-23-2007, 09:41 PM

Happy Feet is Oscar worthy, for those that have yet to see it. It must be seen on IMAX, that's all I'm gonna say.

Sharklady

01-23-2007, 09:47 PM

Dang! 'Flushed Away' deserved to be nominated, and probably would've been if there'd been 16 eligibles. It seems so arbitrary...

Pupmon 4.0

01-23-2007, 10:18 PM

I believe that out of the three nominees, Happy Feet is the most deserving of the Oscar. Cars had nice animation, however, the story was rather lackluster. As for Monster House, I have yet to watch the movie although, it is also deserving of an Oscar.

Golgo13

01-24-2007, 12:06 AM

I'm pretty sure Cars will win, but I REALLY want Monster House to win because of it's young director who worked with new advancements in motion capture and camera work for CGI.

HG Revolution

01-24-2007, 07:26 AM

As for the latter, this isn't so much a fault of the academy but the general American stigma of "A good film". Like it or not, people do not view animated films - regardless of where they origin, as a form of serious artistic film making. Fact of the matter is, most of the time they aren't; its a medium that's been built up and is continually used as a means to entertain children - rather then for telling a dramatic and/or artistic tale akin to what most Best Picture noms are. So with a few exceptions - I can't blame the academy for not nominating an animated film for best picture, because for the most part I haven't seen one that deserves it. Even out of all of this year's animated flicks.

Maybe not of the this year's movies, but Wallace and Gromit was the best reviewed film of 2005. Same with The Incredibles in 2004, Finding Nemo in 2003, and Spirited Away 2002. Had I had my way, all of those movies would have gotten Best Picture nominations (and The Incredibles and Spirited Away both probably could win).

SirLemming

01-24-2007, 10:25 AM

Why no Scanner Darkly or Flushed Away on the nomination list? They were both better than Cars and looked more appealing than Monster House, and the Academy doesn't seem to mind mo-cap this year making Scanner Darkly's robbery seem more suspicious.

I don't think it's suspicious. If they're only gonna pick three, they're likely to choose ones that are more representative of the "traditional" concept of an animated film rather than including something as unusual as A Scanner Darkly... although Monster House does have a lot of motion-capture... I think if there were five nominees it would've been there.

Of course, maybe they were just weirded out by it.

Tay the Cat

01-24-2007, 12:57 PM

I don't think it's suspicious. If they're only gonna pick three, they're likely to choose ones that are more representative of the "traditional" concept of an animated film rather than including something as unusual as A Scanner Darkly... although Monster House does have a lot of motion-capture... I think if there were five nominees it would've been there.

Of course, maybe they were just weirded out by it.

If there were 5 nominees, the other 2 would be Over the Hedge and Curious George.

FightingDreamer

01-24-2007, 01:37 PM

Cars will probably win, but, dang it, I want Happy Feet or Monster House to get it. Happy Feet was just so weird, offbeat, and entertaining, while Monster House had one of the best animated characters I've ever seen: The House. Cars was merely OK; I loved Mater, Luigi, and Guido, but the rest of the movie was just dull.

Discloner

01-24-2007, 02:14 PM

Maybe not of the this year's movies, but Wallace and Gromit was the best reviewed film of 2005. Same with The Incredibles in 2004, Finding Nemo in 2003, and Spirited Away 2002. Had I had my way, all of those movies would have gotten Best Picture nominations (and The Incredibles and Spirited Away both probably could win).A positively reviewed film does not automatically mean, at least to me, that it's an Oscar contender for best film. The oscars aren't supposed to be a popularity contest, but rather a recognition of filmmaking. If the best reviewed, or most attended movies recieved best picture noms - Borat would likely be in the running this year, and I'm not sure about you but I'd just about cry if that happened.

Was Wallace and Gromit a wonderful film? Absolutely.

Was it better then Million Dollar Baby, Sideways, Finding Neverland, The Aviator, or Ray? Eh.

I think we here have a biased as to how wonderful animated movies are because we all share a love and passion for the medium; We see things in it that other people done. Wallace and Gromit was a great film that was full of whimsy and fun - it was an entertaining movie...but it still doesn't much deviate from the traditional form that an animated movie generally caters to. In my own opinion, Wallace and Gromit, in the medium of theatrical filmmaking, doesn't really hold a candle to that of the other Best picture noms in that particular year.

But that's really just my two cents.

Of course, maybe they were just weirded out by it.
Perhaps they didn't much care for it - I mean, I wasn't particularly fond of it myself.

HG Revolution

01-24-2007, 04:20 PM

Was Wallace and Gromit a wonderful film? Absolutely.

Was it better then Million Dollar Baby, Sideways, Finding Neverland, The Aviator, or Ray? Eh.

Oh, but Wallace and Gromit didn't go up against those films! The Incredibles did, and as far as I'm concerned it was a better movie than all of those.

And honestly, was Chicago a better movie than Spirited Away?

Mr. Manager

01-24-2007, 04:35 PM

You can thank Luc Besson for that, even though his movie was still pretty good.Arthur and the Invisibles got an 18% or so on the Tomatometer. I highly doubt it would have gotten a nod, if there were five choices. They probably would have been Curious George, A Scanner Darkly, or Flushed Away.

judyindisguise

01-24-2007, 06:04 PM

Seems to me the Academy made some good choices. I enjoyed all three of those films...although I do think "Cars" wasn't Pixar's best work. Still, they all were visually innovative and had distinct personalities. I...guess I'm rooting for "Cars". It's the best-looking film, if nothing else...

straw_hat

01-24-2007, 07:10 PM

Didn't bother with any of them. Dear god this category becomes even more of a joke every year.

Classic Speedy

01-24-2007, 07:12 PM

Didn't bother with any of them. Dear god this category becomes even more of a joke every year. Could you explain why you think that? In what year(s) did you think the Best Animated Feature wasn't a joke?

Chris Wood

01-24-2007, 07:23 PM

Admittedly none of the nominees are very impressive this year. I guess one of them has to get the Oscar, but none of them really seem deserving. Especially with the absence of films like Scanner Darkly and Paprika.

CaRtOOnChiC

01-24-2007, 07:38 PM

I think Happy Feet is going to win. :D :p ;)

SirLemming

01-24-2007, 08:11 PM

Didn't bother with any of them. Dear god this category becomes even more of a joke every year.

How can these two statements coexist?

straw_hat

01-24-2007, 09:00 PM

Could you explain why you think that? In what year(s) did you think the Best Animated Feature wasn't a joke?

Last year's was pretty good but I just find all Award shows to be completely pointless.

creativerealms

01-24-2007, 09:38 PM

Car's Being a Pixar movie is almost destianed to win. Thing is it was not the best animated film this year IMHO Happy Feet was. I just don't see Happy Feet winning. I want it to but Cars will take it no problem.

Discloner

01-24-2007, 10:15 PM

Oh, but Wallace and Gromit didn't go up against those films! The Incredibles did, and as far as I'm concerned it was a better movie than all of those.Blah! Got my acadamey award year wrong when I was lookin' em up for my response. Regardless, Switch in [I]Capote, Brokeback Mountain, Munich, Good, Night, and Good Luck, and Crash and my argument stays the same. In fact...I think those films argue it better.

And honestly, was Chicago a better movie than Spirited Away?Depends who you ask. Step our focused community of animation enthusiasts and I'm sure you'd find plenty of people who would think so. I know a large amount of my friends couldn't enjoy Spirited Away - they simply didn't get it. And that's not to say they're narrowminded to the medium in which it was conveyed (after all the same people LOVED Howl's Moving Castle), they just couldn't get into it.

Sharklady

01-25-2007, 10:22 AM

> I know a large amount of my friends couldn't enjoy Spirited Away - they simply didn't get it. And that's not to say they're narrowminded to the medium in which it was conveyed (after all the same people LOVED Howl's Moving Castle), they just couldn't get into it. <

Perhaps it would help if you explained to them that 'Spirited Away' is, essencially, a Japanese take on 'Alice In Wonderland'.
Anybody who gets the one should be able to get the other.

Skeeter

01-25-2007, 12:16 PM

Not really rooting for any of the Animated Feature nominees. Cars was the only one out of the three that I've seen, so I don't think I can judge fairly.

On the other hand, I am so pulling for The Little Match Girl for Best Animated Short.

-Kim

MonkeyFunk

01-25-2007, 12:43 PM

Anime fans are objecting:

http://forums.animeuknews.net/viewtopic.php?t=5914

Golgo13

01-25-2007, 01:08 PM

Anime fans are objecting:

http://forums.animeuknews.net/viewtopic.php?t=5914

Oh, whatever. It's just a bunch of biased kids whining.

First of all, since Paprika isn't out yet in the US, it can't be up for Best Animated Feature. You'd think they would've noticed this when the Academy announced the possible nominations. The only thing it could've been up for is Best Foreign Feature, but it's a long shot.

Second, none of these people respond to this matter in more than one sentence and just bash CGI films up and down. If you want to question a problem, come up with a better solution besides do better or please die.

Tay the Cat

01-25-2007, 01:26 PM

First of all, since Paprika isn't out yet in the US, it can't be up for Best Animated Feature. You'd think they would've noticed this when the Academy announced the possible nominations. The only thing it could've been up for is Best Foreign Feature, but it's a long shot.

It had a 1-week run in LA last year, which is all any film needs to do in order to qualify for any Academy award.

Classic Speedy

01-25-2007, 01:35 PM

Oh, whatever. It's just a bunch of biased kids whining.

First of all, since Paprika isn't out yet in the US, it can't be up for Best Animated Feature. You'd think they would've noticed this when the Academy announced the possible nominations. The only thing it could've been up for is Best Foreign Feature, but it's a long shot.

Second, none of these people respond to this matter in more than one sentence and just bash CGI films up and down. If you want to question a problem, come up with a better solution besides do better or please die. Yeah, that's exactly what I thought when I read those posts.

I'm always amused at people who say things like, "The Academy Awards suck, don't waste your time with that garbage-fest." But the second an anime (or, more broadly, any film that they liked) wins the award: "I love the Academy so much! There sure are some smart movie-watchers on that committee!"
It had a 1-week run in LA last year, which is all any film needs to do in order to qualify for any Academy award. So did the Fullmetal Alchemist movie get onto the initial list of nominees? I'm not being sarcastic; I'm seriously asking, because I don't remember if it did or not.

If it DID, that's one film I might've rooted for if it had gone so far as to make it into the final nomination spot. But since it didn't, I'm rooting for Cars.

Spider-Man

01-25-2007, 02:39 PM

Exactly. Can't you say that motion capture is just a fancy way of doing that rotoscoping technique that used to be so popular? It's an interesting controversy and one that has me pretty much glued to some animation blogs.

Discloner

01-25-2007, 06:53 PM

Miller's boast basically sets up the question of whether his film can be truly said to be "animated" at all, and considering that Monster House also made a big deal in its collateral marketing of having revolutionized the ability to replace animators with mo cap performers that could play multiple roles in a CG movie, the implication is that Cars is the only one of the three animated films up for an Animation Oscar that was, well, actually animated...Keyframed entirely perhaps...but I doubt in real life there were talking moving penguins or Houses running around in mo-cap suits (though I realize that Kathleen Turner did do a bit of performance capture work on the boss-house at the end) - and as such both films were touched, manipulated, and otherwise shaped by animator hands. I think Monster House is less defend-able - given a majority (albeit not the entirety of it) is Performance capture; but I was under the assumption that Happy Feet's Motion Capture tech only applied to dance sequences, which themselves do not make up the entirety of the film. It is not like these two films in particular passed the animation process entirely - they just utilized it in a different way.

As for Miller's comments...I know the folks over at Cartoon Brew reacted pretty harsh to them; but quite frankly I don't see what the big fuss is about. Dancing is an art as much as animation is - just because one individual believes that the nuances of which are near imitatable doesn't mean the man believes animation is a second rate gig that should be looked down upon. I think our community at times gets a wee bit too caught up in elitism...but hey, thats just me.

Philo & Gunge

01-25-2007, 07:13 PM

"Cars" definatly will win. Not that "Monster House" and "Happy Feet" don't have a chance (I think "Happy Feet" has more of an advantage than "Monster House", though) but "Cars" has had the most critical praise and box-office numbers and it's already beaten "Happy Feet" for an award already (Golden Globes, I think...)

Golgo13

01-26-2007, 07:53 AM

As for Miller's comments...I know the folks over at Cartoon Brew reacted pretty harsh to them; but quite frankly I don't see what the big fuss is about. Dancing is an art as much as animation is - just because one individual believes that the nuances of which are near imitatable doesn't mean the man believes animation is a second rate gig that should be looked down upon. I think our community at times gets a wee bit too caught up in elitism...but hey, thats just me.

I know that character animators are kinda the most frowned upon of the CGI animation process by others.

There was a nasty little joke going around that it's the Technical Director's job to make the Character Animator feel like he's done work.

Douglas E.

01-26-2007, 10:50 AM

I think all films are worthy. Although Happy Feet should have been replaced with Flushed Away. Not that Happy Feet was bad, I just think that Flushed Away was better.

-Doug

Discloner

01-26-2007, 03:29 PM

I know that character animators are kinda the most frowned upon of the CGI animation process by others.

There was a nasty little joke going around that it's the Technical Director's job to make the Character Animator feel like he's done work.If you get a good studio that knows it's craft well...that mentality won't exist. Character animation is as integral part to CG as it is to 2D - and with the studios that churn out wonderful movies you're likely to notice they recognize this.

Off the top of my head, Blue Sky demonstrates this to the maximum with Scrat.

Golgo13

01-26-2007, 03:52 PM

If you get a good studio that knows it's craft well...that mentality won't exist. Character animation is as integral part to CG as it is to 2D - and with the studios that churn out wonderful movies you're likely to notice they recognize this.

Off the top of my head, Blue Sky demonstrates this to the maximum with Scrat.

Yep, it easily depends on the studio.

I know that a lot of small commercial studios don't hire character animators or modelers. They hire generalists that are meant to cover every aspect and they're a lot more interested in those who know subsurface scattering and reactor rather than principles of animations.

Noukon

01-26-2007, 05:23 PM

I honestly find it really atrocious that A Scanner Darkly didn't make the cut.

Sharklady

01-26-2007, 10:17 PM

^ Perhaps it didn't get enough votes just because not all that many people saw it.

'Paprika' was probably doomed for the same reason.

Golgo13

01-27-2007, 12:07 AM

I honestly find it really atrocious that A Scanner Darkly didn't make the cut.

Scanner isn't really the most applicaple title with many audiences. It had a limited realease because it felt like a limited release. It's not the type of film that markets well to main stream audiences or the Academy for that matter.

That's why films like Waking Life and What The Bleep Do We Know (both strong pieces of animation) isn't ushered into the nominations.

HEATXZ

01-27-2007, 12:36 AM

I think that Happy Feet should win

Noukon

01-27-2007, 12:39 AM

^ Perhaps it didn't get enough votes just because not all that many people saw it.

'Paprika' was probably doomed for the same reason.

Scanner isn't really the most applicaple title with many audiences. It had a limited realease because it felt like a limited release. It's not the type of film that markets well to main stream audiences or the Academy for that matter.

That's why films like Waking Life and What The Bleep Do We Know (both strong pieces of animation) isn't ushered into the nominations.

Believe me, I understand why it didn't end up nominated, but it just goes to show how out of touch the Academy genuinely is when films like Happy Feet and Monster House beat it out.

Chris Wood

01-27-2007, 01:42 AM

Believe me, I understand why it didn't end up nominated, but it just goes to show how out of touch the Academy genuinely is when films like Happy Feet and Monster House beat it out.

Yep. Clearly the Academy does not hold animated films to the same high standard as live action movies. If it's cute and made a lot of money it's in.

Discloner

01-27-2007, 03:19 PM

Yep. Clearly the Academy does not hold animated films to the same high standard as live action movies. If it's cute and made a lot of money it's in.Wait. Monster House made a lot of money?

So did Wallace and Grommit, Corpse Bride, Howl's Moving Castle, Spirited Away, The Triplets of Belleville, Brother Bear, Treasure Planet, and Spirit: Stallion of the Cimarron? ...Where have I been?

Tay the Cat

01-27-2007, 03:22 PM

Wait. Monster House made a lot of money?

Not really. It technically flopped in America. The only thing that helped it was it's foreign box office total.

Discloner

01-27-2007, 06:28 PM

Not really. It technically flopped in America. The only thing that helped it was it's foreign box office total.Yeah...that was kind of my point. ;)

Draft

01-27-2007, 06:35 PM

Cars will unfortunatly win

I hope the Simpsons Movie gets a nominatiopn in 07, doubt it tho

Tay the Cat

01-27-2007, 06:41 PM

Yeah...that was kind of my point. ;)

I know, I was playing along.

Chris Wood

01-27-2007, 07:15 PM

Wait. Monster House made a lot of money?

Compared to Scanner Darkly and Paprika? It sure did.

Discloner

01-27-2007, 07:43 PM

Golgo13

01-27-2007, 09:57 PM

So how does that explain something like Howl's Moving Castle - which opened in less theaters AND got less money then A Scanner Darkly? Or The Triplets of Belleville, which opened in twice as many screens as A Scanner Darkly, but barely passed ASD's bank? Or even Spirited Away for that matter...

Well, Spirited Away got in for a few reasons.
1) It's backed by Disney.
2) It made a crap-load of money on it's limited release (moreso than Treasure Planet in it's wide release).
3) It's a good story that is applicaple to many audiences.

Howl's Moving Castle go in for the same reason except the money. Instead, it was being touted as a new film from Oscar-winner Hayao Miyazaki.

You also have to think about the competition, too. It's not like previous years when we knew Shrek 2 or Brother Bear would be up for nominations. There were over twelve animated films this year and there were more good than bad. And while Scanner certainly has it's place as an intriguing sereal romp, it's concept doesn't really hold up well against jugernaughts like Cars and Monster House.

Discloner

01-27-2007, 10:13 PM

Well, Spirited Away got in for a few reasons.
1) It's backed by Disney.
2) It made a crap-load of money on it's limited release (moreso than Treasure Planet in it's wide release).
3) It's a good story that is applicaple to many audiences.
Treasure planet ran away with almost 40 million domestically - while Spirited Away wound up with 10 mill, most of that I was under the assumption was a result of the extended release caused by the Oscar nom and win. Additionally, it was indeed backed by Disney - but the average joe would not have known about Miyazaki's prior work before this film was nominated.

My point being - if the Academy was strictly a "It made a lot of money and is cute" gig when it comes to animated flicks - Spirited Away would not have ever been nominated in the first place, regardless of who backed it or made it.

You also have to think about the competition, too. It's not like previous years when we knew Shrek 2 or Brother Bear would be up for nominations. There were over twelve animated films this year and there were more good than bad. And while Scanner certainly has it's place as an intriguing sereal romp, it's concept doesn't really hold up well against jugernaughts like Cars and Monster House.My main stance is that there is no hidden agenda or lack of approval from the people voting for nominees. I HIGHLY doubt the academy views animated flicks as second rate entertainment, only picking those which are popular and cute. These people are artists too...if anything I think they have more of an appreciation for story and craft then the average VIEWER of the Oscars. Perhaps they simply thought Cars, Happy Feet, and Monster house were amongst the best animated films to be released this year...I know I sure did.

Chris Wood

01-27-2007, 10:50 PM

Golgo13

01-28-2007, 01:48 AM

My main stance is that there is no hidden agenda or lack of approval from the people voting for nominees. I HIGHLY doubt the academy views animated flicks as second rate entertainment, only picking those which are popular and cute. These people are artists too...if anything I think they have more of an appreciation for story and craft then the average VIEWER of the Oscars. Perhaps they simply thought Cars, Happy Feet, and Monster house were amongst the best animated films to be released this year...I know I sure did.

That brings up another good point. There isn't really any seperate area for animated films outisde of the best animated feature or best song. On what basis do you pick the best animated feature? Story? Direction? Technique? Not to mention you can't seperate into best 3D/best 2D categories or best modeling or best animation. We can only decide on the overall best in every area an it's not easy.

I'll give you this though. If they had a category for Best Animated Adapted Screenplay, Scanner would easily be the winner.

SirLemming

01-28-2007, 05:00 AM

Some of you are acting like it's a fact that A Scanner Darkly would HAVE to be nominated for SOMETHING unless there are suspicious things going on. Keep in mind that maybe they just didn't like it. It's not hard to imagine. It's not exactly the most easy-to-get-into movie in the world.

Personally, I'm still not sure whether or not I liked it, and I'd nominate Monster House above it in a heartbeat.

Juu-kuchi

01-28-2007, 10:17 AM

Yep. Clearly the Academy does not hold animated films to the same high standard as live action movies. If it's cute and made a lot of money it's in. Either that or if it has a relation to the names "Ghibli" and "Miyazaki" on it.

Sharklady

01-28-2007, 11:14 AM

> I hope the Simpsons Movie gets a nominatiopn in 07, doubt it tho <

Now this is getting silly. We're months away from seeing the 'Simpsons' movie- it's *way* to early to talk about whether it will, or should, get an Oscar nomination.

tb4000

01-28-2007, 11:34 AM

Depending on what Dreamworks and Pixar's entries look like, though I would think Simpsons would have a good shot, depending on how well done it is.

Rasputin

01-28-2007, 12:54 PM

Depending on what Dreamworks and Pixar's entries look like, though I would think Simpsons would have a good shot, depending on how well done it is.

You could say that about any animated film out next year. Everything's a potential masterpiece until someone actually sees it, even Food Fight. Jean-Paul Sartre even has a name for the phenomenon...

tb4000

02-25-2007, 09:46 PM

Happy Feet just took it home for best animated feature. :cool:

danreyes1

02-25-2007, 11:56 PM

Anybody else find it sad that there are only three nominees, and that none of them were traditionally animated?

Baltofan

02-26-2007, 04:38 AM

Way to go Happy Feet!

DarknessbUnnie

02-27-2007, 10:39 AM

Anybody else find it sad that there are only three nominees, and that none of them were traditionally animated?

Yes I do actually but that's the way things are now. *Sigh* I really hope that Disney's return to 2D is as good as it seems and we will once again see the 2D line up return.

But back on subject, I am glad that Happy Feet won. Cars, while a decent movie with WONDERFUL CGI effects and textures, was alright. It was no Finding Nemo or the Incredibles but it was alright. Monster House, in my opinion, was just another CGI movie. I didn't like the motion-capture or whatever technique used in the films and the story/characters were just bland. Happy Feet seemed to have heart to it and you can't help but say that the music and the dancing were pretty nice. All in all, Happy Feet won and I was happy but I would have been happy if Cars had won as well even though I might have felt that the Academy pulled the Disney/Pixar trump card out...but yeah. At least something DECENT won. Here's looking forward to next year.