Scrappy Doo and the anti-"Cartoon Cartoon" rant

[J Lee]

Saw this one for the first time tonight on CN. The gag is that Scrappy has been demoted to doorman at the network and goes on a tirade against all the "Cartoon Cartoon" characters he has to open the door for, yelling "They're on all the time" and "I was here before any of you!"

The gag of course is that Scrappy is among the most destested of all Hanna-Barbera TV characters of all time, so no one in the viewing audience will feel sorry for the little jerk. But to be honest, the way Cartoon Network has reworked its lineup over the past six months, the promo could have just as easily been done with Bugs, Daffy, Sylvester, Tom & Jerry, Droopy or Popeye in the role of the put-upon doorman and the script could have been used just as it is.

Of course, I suspect the effect of seeing Bugs serving as doorman/flunky for "Grim and Evil" or "Ed, Edd and Eddy" would have been a little bit different than what the people at CN would have wanted, but it wouldn't be any less accurate, especially when it comes to prime time or (now) overnight viewing.

[Mibbitmaker]

What they COULD have done(I didn't see this promo yet)(of course, they probably wouldn't do this anyways :( ) was, after Scrappy is done with his rant, pan over to classic characters(i.e. Bugs, Daffy, Tom & Jerry, Popeye, maybe even Fred Flintstone), with Bugs saying,"Nyeh, now you know how WE feel, Doc!" with Daffy grumbling some anti-Scooby Doo stuff.

Of course, the corporate weasels there can only tolerate so much self-satire.

[Thad Komorowski]

I saw that, I thought it was hilarious! It was great seeing SOMEONE flipping out on the Cartoon Cartoon characters, even if it was Scrappy.

"Oh, Scrappy, you still work here?"
"Oh, yeah, if you're such a boy genius, I wonder why you couldn't figure that out earlier!"
(Dexter runs in network crying)




-Thad

[Matthew Hunter]

Compared to many Cartoon Cartoons...dare I say Scrappy could be a little...bit.....better? I want to see this ad.
-Matthew

[Jack]

Originally posted by Matthew Hunter
Compared to many Cartoon Cartoons...dare I say Scrappy could be a little...bit.....better? I want to see this ad.
-Matthew
Me too, there are definately some Cartoon Cartoons I would rank well below the worst Scooby efforts.

I wonder how the Cartoon Cartoon characters will be regarded 20 years from now when the next big things rolls around and many of the "lesser" series (i.e. the ones without a huge fanbase) will be looked down on as inferior and corney (like much of the 1970s and 80s Hanna barbera stuff is).


Jack :D

[Matthew Hunter]

Actually, I think Scrappy Doo is not a bad character. Okay. Shoot me on the spot. But it doesn't seem to be the character, just the AWFUL, ABYSMAL writing in the series Scrappy is involved in. Hard to believe Tom Ruegger was involved in some of them! The opening is pretty cool, and the early episodes aren't horrible...but then they went and inexplicably removed most of the original characters and stuck only Shaggy, Scooby Doo and Scrappy in there....what the hell were they thinking? These episodes are some of the worst animation ever made, and it's a shame, because they really, it seems to me, missed the opportunity to make it a good series. There was a brief series that brought Daphne back, a little better, but still garbage. Those 1980's 'movies' that sometimes air on CN theater are total trash. I do, however, enjoy "Thirteen Ghosts of Scooby Doo", in which Shaggy, Daphne, Scooby, Scrappy and a little orphaned kid named Flim Flam go hunting 13 demons that Scooby lets out of a pandora's-box-thing. Vincent Price plays a warlock.

Cartoon Cartoons are heads above this stuff most of the time, but there is enough CN-produced garbage to more than make up for the merits. I personally think they were better off doing individual shorts, like they did when I fiirst got Cartoon Network. For Example, Dexter, Cow and Chicken, and Powerpuff Girls had a couple of short films before they were spun into a series, and somehow I think they would have been better off that way. After all, Disney, Warners, and others back in the day made mixed shorts and had several 'star' characters that appeared in most, but not all, of those shorts. I think it would be better off as "Cartoon Cartoons" instead of all these different shows..."Sheep in the Big City" had no business even being DRAWN.
-Matthew

[Pietro]

I haven't seen this ad yet, though it sounds very funny. When does it usually air anyway?

-Pietro:D

[Howard Fein]

This isn't the first time Cartoon Network has made fun of how despised Scrappy is. A couple of years ago CN aired a Halloween marathon of DOO under a SCOOBY-DOO PROJECT umbrella. The promos were clear parodies of the phenomenally popular BLAIR WITCH PRODUCT.

In one of them, we see Daphne running scared into the woods. It's assumed she's running away from a monster until you hear Scrappy's trademark pre-splatting 'fanfare'. Once he appears and greets the gang, Shaggy and Scooby are similarly terrified. "Zoinks! Not HIM again!"

Someone at CN must have read some of the many anti-Scrappy websites. Just check out jumptheshark.com for some incredible venom.

[Thad Komorowski]

There was also an ad or something when CN first started, that had Velma leave the door open, and Scrappy gets out and gets hit by a car. :p





-Thad

[Howard Fein]

"There was also an ad or something when CN first started, that had Velma leave the door open, and Scrappy gets out and gets hit by a car."

When CN first started in October 1992, the only Scooby-Doo property Turner had the rights to was the 1988 PUP NAMED SCOOBY-DOO (IMO, the best S-D series because it makes fun of the series' conventions and there's no Scrappy! :D ) All the other Doo properties were still under the ownership of Worldvision and shown on USA. It wasn't until two years later when CN got the rights to them.

When I got cable in August 1993, CN also didn't yet have the rights to numerous early H-B characters, such as Augie Doggie, Richochet Rabbit, Touche Turtle, Lippy & Hardy and Snooper & Blabber, whose shorts were still on the old Family Channel. Strange, because many characters who originally shared the same half-hour omnibus series with them (Huck, Quick Draw, Magilla, Wally Gator) WERE on CN from the beginning.

Initially, I was much more excited about CN for the classic H-B shows than the Turner-owned WB, MGM and Popeye shorts, many of which were still available on local broadcast stations as they had been for many years :yawn: . What was also new to me were the pre-48 Avery MGM shorts that were NOT part of the CBS/syndication package (T & J, post-48 non-T & J) that had been rerun into the ground since 1977.

As funny as Avery's post-48 cartoons are, many of his pre-48s were even funnier, (LITTLE TINKER, THE BLITZ WOLF, BATTY BASEBALL, WHO KILLED WHO, SLAP-HAPPY LION, the Screwy and George & Junior series), perhaps because they were less known.

[chuckamuck43]

Originally posted by Howard Fein ...a Halloween marathon of DOO...

You forgot the second DOO, Howard! :D

[rodineisilveira]

"There was also an ad or something when CN first started, that had Velma leave the door open, and Scrappy gets out and gets hit by a car."

When CN first started in October 1992, the only Scooby-Doo property Turner had the rights to was the 1988 PUP NAMED SCOOBY-DOO (IMO, the best S-D series because it makes fun of the series' conventions and there's no Scrappy! :D ) All the other Doo properties were still under the ownership of Worldvision and shown on USA. It wasn't until two years later when CN got the rights to them.

When I got cable in August 1993, CN also didn't yet have the rights to numerous early H-B characters, such as Augie Doggie, Richochet Rabbit, Touche Turtle, Lippy & Hardy and Snooper & Blabber, whose shorts were still on the old Family Channel. Strange, because many characters who originally shared the same half-hour omnibus series with them (Huck, Quick Draw, Magilla, Wally Gator) WERE on CN from the beginning.

Initially, I was much more excited about CN for the classic H-B shows than the Turner-owned WB, MGM and Popeye shorts, many of which were still available on local broadcast stations as they had been for many years :yawn: . What was also new to me were the pre-48 Avery MGM shorts that were NOT part of the CBS/syndication package (T & J, post-48 non-T & J) that had been rerun into the ground since 1977.

As funny as Avery's post-48 cartoons are, many of his pre-48s were even funnier, (LITTLE TINKER, THE BLITZ WOLF, BATTY BASEBALL, WHO KILLED WHO, SLAP-HAPPY LION, the Screwy and George & Junior series), perhaps because they were less known.
São Paulo - SP (still taken by the rain), Brazil, June 3, 2004 (2 months remaining to the Olympic Games, which will be held in Athens, Greece [the olympic torch will pass here in Brazil, on the next June 13 - more exactly in Rio de Janeiro]).

Hello, HB-fanatic Howie Fein!

When you're talking about A Pup Named Scooby-Doo (1988-91), I remember that this series counted with the appearances of various Hanna-Barbera classical characters on it.
Do you remember of an episode where Yogi Bear made a cameo appearance as "Yogi The Cave Bear" (making a reference of an episode from The New Yogi Bear Show [1988], where Yogi and Boo Boo end finding themselves on the pre-historic times)? I was with this episode on my mind.
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[Jack]

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