Is Carlos Menica a racist?

[Oh look I'm...]

Not quite sure if this has been covered before, but I'll post the question nonetheless.

Yeah, I'm seriously confused about it.:confused:

Please help!

[BigLouMan20]

I don't believe he is racist. He just goes that route to get a "shocking" responce from the audience. The sad thing is most of his race jokes I can see coming from 10 miles away unlike Chappelle where he usually adds a twist to his.

[Frank Castle]

Nah. He's not a racist. He's just an idiot who thinks racist jokes shock everyone into watching his crappy show and stand-up routine. I also have a problem with him calling himself "The Punisher" and I'm quite surprised Marvel hasn't sued him for it yet.

[Juu-kuchi]

Yes Nancy. Yes he is.

But he actually is not. And many others have given you the answer beforehand.

But yes he is.

[EinBebop]

Racism is a belief that races are not equal. Mencia believes all races are equally worthy of ridicule.

Some would probably argue that this kind of humor promotes racism; I think the world needs this kind of humor if it's ever going to move past racism.

[zimbach]

Carlos Mencia is not a racist, but he is a race-baiter. Race baiting humor can be used as an effective tool to get people to confront their preconceived notions on the subject of racial stereotypes and prejudice, and in that context Carlos Mencia is a master baiter.

But that doesn't mean he's funny. I find his routines tasteless and insulting, which does not necessarily preclude funnyness, but that's how it works out in this case.

:zim:

[TheMecca]

He's not racist, just unfunny.

[Harlan_Phoenix]

He's not so much racist as he is "Loud 'controversial' person of ethnicity who's taking Dave Chappelle's place."

The whole "BLACK PEOPLE DO THIS, AND WHITE PEOPLE DO THIS" or "LATINOS DO THIS WHILE BLACK PEOPLE DO THIS" esque humor gets old. Fast. Bad idea to base a show around it.

[Michael24]

No, he's not racist (he's a "no one is off limits" comic), but he is damn hilarious.

[mookie75]

Since he seems to throw out slangs and stereotypes equally for all races, I guess you could give him credit for including everyone.

Besides, he's not white...and that seems to grant a person extra leniency when it comes to such matters anyway. :p

[Stuckey]

Carlos Mencia is an unfunny hack, but I don't think he's racist.

[Hurricane V1]

Carlos Mencia is not a racist, but he is a race-baiter. Race baiting humor can be used as an effective tool to get people to confront their preconceived notions on the subject of racial stereotypes and prejudice, and in that context Carlos Mencia is a master baiter.

LOL. Did you come up with that yourself? That's hilarious man. Give Carlos some pointers.

I dunno, Carlos can come up with some pretty funny stuff outside of race oriented humor, but I don't think he wants to challenge himself. He just goes for the quickest and cheapest laugh. Can you blame him? Fame doesn't last long.

I initially watch Chappelle's Show and Mind of Mencia for the shocking humor, like the Rick James story or Carlos informing protestors that they can get illegals to commit suicide for cheap. I rewatch for the sketches like 'what if the internet was a real place' or listening to Carlos rip into people for the stupid things they do. The latter stays funny after the shocking humor wears off.

[Tay the Cat]

No, he's not racist (he's a "no one is off limits" comic), but he is damn hilarious.

You said it!

Matter of fact, I'll watch Mencia over that money-hungry Chapelle any day.

[Dee]

Racism is a belief that races are not equal. Mencia believes all races are equally worthy of ridicule.

Some would probably argue that this kind of humor promotes racism; I think the world needs this kind of humor if it's ever going to move past racism.

I think that best explains his style of comedy---

[2dalchemist]

how is dave money hungry didnt he turn down a ton of money for the third season of his show .Also i saw this video by joe rogan (you know that guy who host fear factor )that shows mencia totally bombing at a show and joe as well as other comedians claim that he steals other peoples acts but im not too sure on that one but if he does thats one of the worse things you can do if your a comedian.

[Tay the Cat]

how is dave money hungry didnt he turn down a ton of money for the third season of his show .
Later, he would only come back if they offered him more money.



Also i saw this video by joe rogan (you know that guy who host fear factor )that shows mencia totally bombing at a show and joe as well as other comedians claim that he steals other peoples acts but im not too sure on that one but if he does thats one of the worse things you can do if your a comedian.
Joe Rogan is an idiot.

[Timmay]

Mencia is just the loud guy on TV when I leave the TV on CC too long. Nothing he says is really.. original, but you wouldn't know that from how he plays himself up as being a shock comic.

Essentially he's just a shock comic with a big ego and a loud voice. Instead of "black people do this, white people do this" it's "BLACK PEOPLE DO THIS, WHITE PEOPLE DO THIS, AND NOBODY WANTS ME TO SAY THAT BUT I AM, THIS IS FUNNY RIGHT!?!? YOU! YOU'RE NOT GETTING IT ARE YOU? IT'S CAUSE YOU'RE DEE DEE DEE. <insert spanish gibberish>"

[Stuckey]

Rogan may be an idiot, but he's not the only one who claims Mencia steals material. Personally, I don't care if he steals material. If he doesn't steal, he should. If he does, he should steal from someone funnier.

Suggesting that Mencia is as good as, much less better than, Chappelle is absurd. Chappelle is an intelligent comedian. Mencia's a guy with a show. Mencia tries to get laughs by blurting out epithets and stereotypes. Chappelle got laughs by illustrating the ignorance in the very things Mencia seems to champion on his show.

If anyone remembers the "Black and blind KKK member" skit from Chappelle's show, Mencia is the type of person who will laugh at that skit because there's a Black guy in the KKK and he says "n****r" alot. He completely misses the point of Chappelle's comedy. He thinks it's all shuckin'-n-jivin' for the camera. It's what keeps him from being the slightest bit funny. His show doesn't address and attack stereotypes and bigotry. It showcases them.

That being said, I still don't think he's racist. To me being a racist requires intent, which I don't think Mencia has. It's like a two year old cursing because he heard his dad say "f**k" when he stubbed his toe and then repeating it when someone laughs. He's only doing what get's a reaction.

[EinBebop]

To me being a racist requires intent...That same subject came up in the other racism thread that just wound down. In case you didn't see it, here's my response:

I can think of plenty of opinions on race that could be considered racist, even though the person stating them may not consider them so. What about profiling in airports? Because middle easterners are [statistically] more likely to be terrorists, they're treated more harshly. Middle easterners may consider this as racism; the security personnel probably do not. How many shop-owners don't consider themselves racist, but are subconsciously paying a lot more attention to the black child than the white one?

[Oh look I'm...]

I don't remember asking if he was funny, just if he was a racist. The two aren't the same thing, in my opinion. I also don't remember asking how he compares to Dave Chappelle.

Whatever. Thanks for any reply you gave, but try to stay on topic.

[Lutochris]

I didn't need Joe Rogan to tell me the guy steals his material, you can tell just by watching his show.

I don't think he's a racist. He may be a hack, a plagiarist, a self-righteous buffoon, a bigger conman than most politicians, and under the mistaken impression that he is much more edgy and ground-breaking than he actually is, but he's definitely no racist.

Although, if you think him being a racist might get him better ratings, it's a sure bet he'd start to act like he's one.

[livingfruitvirus]

He's not a racist. He just makes jokes at the expense of other races.

[Stuckey]

I also don't remember asking how he compares to Dave Chappelle.

Whatever. Thanks for any reply you gave, but try to stay on topic.

The comparisons to Chappelle are on topic, but yeah, I apologize for not responding with a simple "no" and leaving the thread.

Discussions are the devil.

[Zach]

No, he isn't racist, but I do think that the majority of his jokes aren't intelligent or entertaining the least.

[Stuckey]

That same subject came up in the other racism thread that just wound down. In case you didn't see it, here's my response:

I can think of plenty of opinions on race that could be considered racist, even though the person stating them may not consider them so. What about profiling in airports? Because middle easterners are [statistically] more likely to be terrorists, they're treated more harshly. Middle easterners may consider this as racism; the security personnel probably do not. How many shop-owners don't consider themselves racist, but are subconsciously paying a lot more attention to the black child than the white one?


I missed this until now. My statement was poorly worded. In those instances the individuals may not think what they are doing is racist but they know that they are profiling based on race. I don't think that Mencia sees how what he does is any different than what Chappelle does.

We all remember Michael Richards' racist tirade a few weeks back. He knew what he was doing was racist and admitted as much (even though he claims not to be a bigot). Mencia's show is closer to Richards' self-exposure than it is to the comedy of Chappelle. People just don't see it because Mencia delivers it with a wink and a smile and without the malice that Richards' intended. If Mencia never laughed at himself (litterally, not figuratively) on his show it'd be off the air. The fact that he smiles keeps it from being a malicious display.

[bluedeucedodge]

Carlos is not a racist. He is just exposing different stereotypes of all races. And he does it in a very funny way. I love his show, and his stand up performances.

[Eden's Truth]

The man in my opinion is hilarious and like bluedeucedodge said tries to show the different kinds of stereotypes of races. I think if you're a minority with a good sense of humor, you'll probably find this show funnier than most people... at least me and my friends do.

[Oh look I'm...]

I took it upon myself to watch the Chappelle show and compare it to Carlos Mencia's show. The two are incredibly different. For one, Carlos doesn't have a musical number at the end of each episode. Two, Dave has a different approach to comedy than Carlos. Mencia makes fun of stereotypes and stupidity (his signature "DEE Dee dee!") and Dave likes to make fun of drugs, junkies, and the like. Sure, they overlap at times, but that can be said of all comedians. Heck, you could say Robin Williams copied off of Jerry Seinfeld if you really wanted to and looked hard enough.

From what else I've seen, Carlos is not really racist, only exercising his freedom of speech. If anything else, he's an inspriation (or not, depending on how you look at it).

[2dalchemist]

I took it upon myself to watch the Chappelle show and compare it to Carlos Mencia's show. The two are incredibly different. For one, Carlos doesn't have a musical number at the end of each episode. Two, Dave has a different approach to comedy than Carlos. Mencia makes fun of stereotypes and stupidity (his signature "DEE Dee dee!") and Dave likes to make fun of drugs, junkies, and the like. Sure, they overlap at times, but that can be said of all comedians. Heck, you could say Robin Williams copied off of Jerry Seinfeld if you really wanted to and looked hard enough.

From what else I've seen, Carlos is not really racist, only exercising his freedom of speech. If anything else, he's an inspriation (or not, depending on how you look at it).

Its not that people are saying the shows are the same or anything like that its just that he seemd like a bad replacement when chappelle left and thats my opinion so dont just think everyone thinks that way

[killercroc]

He may not be, but all he does is use the racist jokes that people have been telling privately for years. He's hispanic and makes no apologies, so he can get away with it. I used to think it was good that he was confronting those stereotypes, now I just think he's a hack.

[Tapout]

I don't care if he's a racist or not, he's a theif. (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MnTRSetqvvQ)

[Tay the Cat]

I don't care if he's a racist or not, he's a theif. (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MnTRSetqvvQ)
Except that Joe Rogan is an unfunny, lying idiot.

[Tapout]

Except that Joe Rogan is an unfunny, lying idiot.
Rogan's hardly the only comic who's called him out on his thievery. He's just by far the most vocal about it.

[Oh look I'm...]

Okay, guys, keep this on Mencia and whether or not he's racist. I don't want this thread closed down for no good reason.;)

[Frank Castle]

I don't care if he's a racist or not, he's a theif. (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MnTRSetqvvQ)
Joe pwned Carlos.:D

[The Landstander]

I see that Carlos has filed a copyright claim and got it removed. Good to see he has a sense of humor. (if you want to see the video, check it out here [warning: language and such] http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-7841918711943453918 ). I don't really know Rogan's stuff but that's pretty awesome.

To back up the choir, Mencia's not a racist, and most comedians that do racial humor aren't really racist but trying to break down and expose all the silliness that could lead (and led) to racism in the first place. That's what Dave Chappelle was doing. But it's worth noting on Mencia that his attitude isn't nearly as edgy or as original as he'd like you to think, that he steals material and that his delivery is that lame YELL LOUDLY style that I hate. But a racist? Nah.