American Dragon stop production after 52 eps

[Darking]

http://amdrag.blogspot.com/2007/01/awwww-man.html


A few weeks after we started our blog, we stumbled upon a nifty little feature on this webpage called the Site Meter. It told us how many of you were visiting the site, how long you visited, and it even showed us your hometowns. The stats it showed us blew us away. Not only were people were reading our posts – they were reading them from all over the world! As we write this, our tiny little blog has logged over 14,000 hits from places as far away as Rome, Vietnam, and Dubai (Michael Jackson, perhaps?). Let us take this moment to thank you for watching our show, blogging about it, and – in general – being great fans.

That said, the time as come for us to bring all of you some pretty sad news. After careful consideration, the Disney Channel has decided to end production on “American Dragon: Jake Long” after 52 episodes. As Jake would say, “Awww man!”

Yup, Episode 52 -- “Hong Kong Longs” -- will be the last episode of the series. We found out just before the holidays. We wanted to publicly break the news sooner, but we thought it’d be best to wait until our entire cast and crew had been informed first.

(Quick sidebar: Matt regrets his misleadingly optimistic tone about the “important news” in his last post. He was trying hard not to sound downbeat about it, and perhaps he overcompensated. Or maybe he was still excited about his Nordic cheese slicer. Either way, his sincerest apologies if you feel mislead. Okay, back to the topic at hand…)

We’re not certain we understand the Channel’s reasons behind the cancellation, but we certainly respect their decision. These last four years have been a great learning experience (see previous posts) and we wouldn’t take them back for anything. 52 episodes of any show is a great run. It’s impossible to be angry considering all we’ve accomplished. We are, however, pretty disappointed. We would’ve loved to have done more episodes. We certainly had more stories to tell, but alas -- 52 is where it will end.

Thankfully, the last few episodes of the second season wrap up the show in a nice little bow. Not to give anything away, but secrets will be revealed, surprising relationships will kindle, and former enemies will find common ground. Any loose ends (and yes, there will be a few) will surely be wrapped up nicely in someone’s fan fiction.

Since we’ve already thanked you, the loyal fans, let us also thank our tremendously talented cast and crew for all their hard work. Our 2nd season wouldn’t have been possible without our hilarious and hardworking writing staff, and our crack production team headed by the trifecta of talent that is Steve, Nick, and Wade. We hope to work with all of them again soon. Our thanks also to Chris Roman and Jeff Goode, without whom there wouldn’t be an American Dragon.

Next Friday will mark our last day of production, but the good news is that fifteen episodes of AmDrag have yet to air (nearly half of the entire second season!). It wouldn’t surprise us if the new episodes stretched into 2008. In the meantime, we’ll continue to update the blog when we can. We've both got some exciting new projects on the horizon (both animated and live action), which we hope to tell you about soon.

Until then, the adventure continues.

Matt & EddieWell... This bites. Of course, the threat of the Huntsclan may need to be definitively stopped because of this season's plot, but I would have liked to have another season of the show.

[TheMecca]

Completely expected.
I like how, instead of Disney letting them finish a show I never liked but watched anyway, they rely on FanFictioners to finish it.
Godspeed, people who work on Jake Long. Go and make something better.

[Kagetsu]

I'm alittle shocked. I've never seen the show, but it has been mentioned in so many other places as "the competing show" that I felt it had to be popular.

[tucsoncoyote]

http://amdrag.blogspot.com/2007/01/awwww-man.html

Well... This bites. Of course, the threat of the Huntsclan may need to be definitively stopped because of this season's plot, but I would have liked to have another season of the show.

I tend to agree here Darking.. it's really not a bad show, and sure even though Season 2 had a complete animation Makeover, the stories themselves were infact a better improvement over season 1. But ending it with no Resolution? Okay now that's sad, because there should be some sort of resolution here, both with the Huntsclan and the Dark Dragon. But now? It looks like this goes back to that Question I pondered about the "Either or" Statement for Kim Possible: So the Drama... and apparently in Jake's case they decided to choose the latter (and let the fans write the stories), rather then the former..(Letting Disney Conclude the chapter of Jake's Life.)

but then that's the breaks.. you win some you lose some.. ah well..

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[RockmanDash]

WOW..just WOW disney channel is getting rid of probaly one of there best shows? Man :( looks like the series is ending with the return fo the dark dragon

[SuperStantzio]

Well, this is ironic. I thought disney was going to break out of that mold but why are they stopping this show at only 52 episodes? This bites indeed! :crying: :mad:

[judyindisguise]

I'm really sorry to read this. Especially after the show's retooling improved it so much. But Jake and his little gang just didn't gel, for some reason. Maybe Jake was just too...American. If the show had had a more anime flavor, was a bit more steeped in Oriental tradition and lore, and didn't try so hard to be a comedy, and if the damn dog didn't talk like Archie Bunker...oh well. IMO, the same weaknesses that plagued Danny Phantom plagued this show too. But I have to hand it to Disney to allow the show's retooling in the first place and to the gang behind Dragon for working so hard to improve their product. Godspeed to them and I'll look forward to their next project.

[Camdon]

I'm really sorry to read this. Especially after the show's retooling improved it so much. But Jake and his little gang just didn't gel, for some reason. Maybe Jake was just too...American. If the show had had a more anime flavor, was a bit more steeped in Oriental tradition and lore, and didn't try so hard to be a comedy, and if the damn dog didn't talk like Archie Bunker...oh well. IMO, the same weaknesses that plagued Danny Phantom plagued this show too. But I have to hand it to Disney to allow the show's retooling in the first place and to the gang behind Dragon for working so hard to improve their product. Godspeed to them and I'll look forward to their next project.

Quite the contrary, in fact -- Disney never really liked Jake Long because of its magical/dramatic background. Really, if you look at it, the show felt really out of place on the Disney Channel when it was showing some of its more plot-heavy episodes (stuff about the magical world, Jake/Rose, the Dark Dragon). They never really liked having Matt and Eddie trying to steer some of the show into a more dramatic (or interesting) direction, so I guess this was bound to happen.

But I guess since Disney is announcing a lot of new animated shows (and new Kim Possible), I guess there was no room for Jake left. Oh well.

I'll be content with the series ending if "Homecoming" and "Hong Kong Longs" are any good.

[Uncle Beaglebub]

I live with the mortal fear that all the Disney Channel cartoons will soon be replaced with live-action shows.

[judyindisguise]

Quite the contrary, in fact -- Disney never really liked Jake Long because of its magical/dramatic background. Really, if you look at it, the show felt really out of place on the Disney Channel when it was showing some of its more plot-heavy episodes (stuff about the magical world, Jake/Rose, the Dark Dragon). They never really liked having Matt and Eddie trying to steer some of the show into a more dramatic (or interesting) direction, so I guess this was bound to happen.

But I guess since Disney is announcing a lot of new animated shows (and new Kim Possible), I guess there was no room for Jake left. Oh well.

I'll be content with the series ending if "Homecoming" and "Hong Kong Longs" are any good.

I wonder why Diz greenlit "The Replacements" and "Yin Yang Yo" then. What did Diz like about THOSE shows? "The Replacements" is a crashing bore and YYY - well, it's stupid, to be succinct. Or funny, if you think anything stupid is funny. I have a feeling that toon networks will give shows a certain number of episodes just to see if they blossom. That will no doubt be the reason if TR and YYY get second seasons (if they haven't already).

[Tay the Cat]

I wonder why Diz greenlit "The Replacements" and "Yin Yang Yo" then. What did Diz like about THOSE shows? "The Replacements" is a crashing bore and YYY - well, it's stupid, to be succinct. Or funny, if you think anything stupid is funny.

Because both shows are absolute laugh-fests, and this is after Steve Marmel asked for feedback on YYY! and mine was negative. The show has improved greatly, and The Replacements has been excellent from the start.

As for AmDrag, it went down after they changed the artwork.

[tucsoncoyote]

I wonder why Diz greenlit "The Replacements" and "Yin Yang Yo" then. What did Diz like about THOSE shows? "The Replacements" is a crashing bore and YYY - well, it's stupid, to be succinct. Or funny, if you think anything stupid is funny. I have a feeling that toon networks will give shows a certain number of episodes just to see if they blossom. That will no doubt be the reason if TR and YYY get second seasons (if they haven't already).

Well that's a good observation there Judy, and in fact I wouldn't be surprised if you are correct. After all I've wondered why Disney even let Yin Yang Yo on Jetix.. The Replacements I could understand, but then it's rather interesting that Disney would consider this a "Good show.." Frankly to be honest? I think unless the writing gets better for The Replacements it might end up just like Jake before 2009 is out.

but then I think Uncle Beaglebub has the right thought here:


I live with the mortal fear that all the Disney Channel cartoons will soon be replaced with live-action shows.

I'm starting to think that this might be the case. I mean can anyone here Imagine a Disney Channel devoid of animation (and I am not only talking the afternoon blocks like Jake Long and Kim Possible, but every last scrap of animation just removed from the channel only to be replaced by things like The Doodblebops, and Hanna Montana (and High School Musical)?

I mean sure to all those folks who want High School Musical, and Hanna Montana, Go ahead, laugh it up... But then while we're at it, why not just close down this forum because of Lack of animation? I mean if Disney is going to go Full Live action shows why bother haivng a Disney Animation Forum in the first place? (Sound Familiar? It should.. This is something I said 2 and a Half years ago when I made a prediction that if this keeps up there won't be a Disney animation forum.at TZ.net. and it seems the more I hear from folks the more it's becoming very real indeed.. and I figure at this rate, by 2010, we won't have to bother talking here about animation.. after all I guess Folks don't want Disney..and while we're at it.. why don't we burn all the classic Disney Films From Steamboat Willie to today's shows...(Now how do you feel? Just Peachy I bet.) Well to all those live action folk who want this.. alright but soon you'll be wishing for more Disney animation.. Oh wait, that's right, there won't be any! Too bad for you..Nuff Said.

I'll leave it at that..

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[Camdon]

It's simple.

"The Replacements" was a kid-relatable show. Any kid could relate to annoying or frustrating people in their lives that they wish they could replace. They couldn't really relate to saving the world from a magical apocalypse, though.

"Ying Yang Yo!" was on Jetix, so that's a subsidiary more welcome to action-oriented shows (if you read on the blog, the original 2-part "Homecoming" draft was considered "too Jetix" by Disney Channel execs).

And Disney Channel actually LOVED the new artwork shift (once again, it mentions in the blog their distaste with the style of Season 1), and the ratings were generally better than the previous seasons. But the show just wasn't fitting well with the rest of the Channel's stuff, especially with Matt and Eddie trying to infuse the show with more dramatic storylines (the network really hated all the Jake/Rose + Huntsclan stuff, and the Dark Dragon, etc).

Frankly, Jake didn't deserve to be cancelled, but 52 episodes is still a pretty good run as far as Disney Channel animated shows are concerned. And it's certainly better than being cancelled at Season 1 and being left with the cliffhanger of Rose just simply running off to places unknown.

[Gokou Ruri]

I mean sure to all those folks who want High School Musical, and Hanna Montana, Go ahead, laugh it up... But then while we're at it, why not just close down this forum because of Lack of animation? I mean if Disney is going to go Full Live action shows why bother haivng a Disney Animation Forum in the first place? (Sound Familiar? It should.. This is something I said 2 and a Half years ago when I made a prediction that if this keeps up there won't be a Disney animation forum.at TZ.net. and it seems the more I hear from folks the more it's becoming very real indeed.. and I figure at this rate, by 2010, we won't have to bother talking here about animation.. after all I guess Folks don't want Disney..and while we're at it.. why don't we burn all the classic Disney Films From Steamboat Willie to today's shows...(Now how do you feel? Just Peachy I bet.) Well to all those live action folk who want this.. alright but soon you'll be wishing for more Disney animation.. Oh wait, that's right, there won't be any! Too bad for you..Nuff Said. I think people put a little too much importance on whether somethings animated or in live-action. If Hannah Montana was animated (say, Jen-esque) would that suddenly make it better or worse than it is now? Not to mention there's networks like Toon Disney which show nothing but cartoons (sans Power Rangers) while there's hardly a "Live Action Disney" channel. So it seems a bit hypocritical to say something like that when a cartoon gets canceled, when live-action shows have no choice BUT to be on Disney Channel (since Toon Disney is for animation only). I too loved American Dragon and it sucks it got canceled, but I'm not going to turn around and bash Suite Life or Hannah Montana for it.

But in retrospect, this is mainly an animation forum so I guess it makes sense why some people might be intimidated by live-action (Though the comment on going back and burning classics like Steamboat Willie is a ridiculous analogy to use)

[tucsoncoyote]

I think people put a little too much importance on whether somethings animated or in live-action. If Hannah Montana was animated (say, Jen-esque) would that suddenly make it better or worse than it is now? Not to mention there's networks like Toon Disney which show nothing but cartoons (sans Power Rangers) while there's hardly a "Live Action Disney" channel. So it seems a bit hypocritical to say something like that when a cartoon gets canceled, when live-action shows have no choice BUT to be on Disney Channel (since Toon Disney is for animation only). I too loved American Dragon and it sucks it got canceled, but I'm not going to turn around and bash Suite Life or Hannah Montana for it.

But in retrospect, this is mainly an animation forum so I guess it makes sense why some people might be intimidated by live-action (Though the comment on going back and burning classics like Steamboat Willie is a ridiculous analogy to use)

That's true, but then think about this: Let's say we move all the animated stuff over to Toon Disney, and in fact let's say that you want to have your kids want to watch it. well guess what? Then you're going to have to pay more on your cable bill just to enjoy animation... That is what is called "Animation Exclusivity". If you can't pay the extra cash, then you're not going to get it. pure and simple.

I mean how many parents out there can give their kids Toon Disney, especially since Toon Disney is usually 98% of the time not part of any basic cable system? After all that "Burning the classics" remark is almost as bad as putting everything on a channel you can't get and even if you could, then you'll be paying more money for it. (Same difference).


In short yes Let's get rid of the animated segements on Disney Channel. let's get rid of it and shove it over to Toon disney and see how many parents will pay thorugh the nose just so that their kids can enjoy the animation.. Hypocritical? Hardly.. Realistic? Most Definitely. After all I'm not trying to bash any of the Live action shows either, but if you're an animation company originally and you then don't let your viewers be able to watch the animation, then why bother even creating it? Why even bother showing it on a channel that you can't get? That's the real point here.

What will happen when only a few people who are lucky to get Toon Disney on their systems and get it for the price of basic cable are the only ones left that are able to talk about animation at all? What then? You'll be lucky to see 1 if not 2 posts a week on this forum, if not a month.. so then it comes back to the point of "Why Bother having a Disney Animation Forum if no one can comment on Disney animation unless it's on DVD or on an Exclusive channel you can't afford to get?

That's the real point here. Disney Chanel is supposed to be for the masses, and it seems that for a lot of folks, Toon Disney is like a Rich man's country club where you have to pay to get into. in the end, if this kind of attitude keeps up, then eventually no one will want to be part of the club, let alone golf on it. And that's the worrisome point Uncle Beaglebub points out.. I mean is anyone here willing to pay an extra 50 bucks a month for Cable just to watch your favorite Disney toon? I think the answer would be no, and not unless we're forced to..

So in Closing I feel this would be the end all of what will happen to Disney's animation. It'll end up on a channel that no one can afford, and then what? Like I said, having an animation company do this is almost as bad as taking any of the classical animation that has been created, and just tossing it into the trash (or your local fireplace..) that's the real sad part.. watching quality animation end up like this.. neglected, forgotten. on some channel no one can afford. and I'll leave it at that..

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[judyindisguise]

Because both shows are absolute laugh-fests, and this is after Steve Marmel asked for feedback on YYY! and mine was negative. The show has improved greatly, and The Replacements has been excellent from the start.

As for AmDrag, it went down after they changed the artwork.

We'll have to agree to disagree then. The Replacements' main flaw is its absolute lack of humor. IMO it's one of the blandest toon shows I've ever seen. Squirrel Boy has more laughs IMO. Yin Yang Yo's flaw is that the show has attitude - the attitude that it thinks it's much more clever than it actually is. Which makes it very tiresome viewing after awhile. I've watched five eps of the thing and already I'm burned out. As for AmDrag...I think the artwork change worked, and this is after I posted here about how terrible I thought it was - I'd seen a very short clip of a new episode. But after watching a full episode I was pretty impressed. I do believe that if the show had started out with that look it might have done better overall. But it's all just speculation now...

[Burgundy Ranger]

"Ying Yang Yo!" was on Jetix, so that's a subsidiary more welcome to action-oriented shows (if you read on the blog, the original 2-part "Homecoming" draft was considered "too Jetix" by Disney Channel execs).
Well then, why not move it there? If, as some (including I) have summized that the suits might be considering a 24/7 expansion of Jetix, they're going to need programming -- unless they think 4 or 5 reruns of the same 4-hour block in the same 24-hour period is a good thing.

There's some reason in thinking that all animated shows could just be moved to Toon Disney. Replacements and Proud could fit into the TD schedule, and KP and Jake seem to be natual fits with Jetix.

[Camdon]

Well then, why not move it there? If, as some (including I) have summized that the suits might be considering a 24/7 expansion of Jetix, they're going to need programming -- unless they think 4 or 5 reruns of the same 4-hour block in the same 24-hour period is a good thing.

There's some reason in thinking that all animated shows could just be moved to Toon Disney. Replacements and Proud could fit into the TD schedule, and KP and Jake seem to be natual fits with Jetix.

That's what I thought would be a smart move. Their main problem with the show was that it didn't fit well with the majority of shows that they broadcasted (dramatic elements; serialized show order), so why not just move it to Jetix, where it would fit in? At least with a third season, they could order less episodes, so it wouldn't be as much of a pain to produce as 31 episodes.

KP is staying on the Disney Channel, though, since the network absolutely loves it (and since it is immensely popular), so they don't have the many qualms it does with American Dragon.

[Burdette25159]

The show ending with the Dark Dragon's Return? That's so a lot like one of the last episodes of "Darkwing Duck" titled "The Steerimator which ended with a cliffhanger that was never resolved, I think Disney should resolve the Dark Dragon storyline via either turning the Dark Dragon into a Kim Possible villian or in a better way, make a AD:JL movie!

[Camdon]

The show ending with the Dark Dragon's Return? That's so a lot like one of the last episodes of "Darkwing Duck" titled "The Steerimator which ended with a cliffhanger that was never resolved, I think Disney should resolve the Dark Dragon storyline via either turning the Dark Dragon into a Kim Possible villian or in a better way, make a AD:JL movie!

Technically, the Dark Dragon is supposed to make a return in the episode before "Hong Kong Longs", which is "Being Human".

Edit: Steve Loter posted about the cancellation on ronstoppable.net forums.


Hey Guys-

I'd like to set a few things straight.
First, the new designs on the show is not the reason the show was not renewed.
The new designs brought in new viewers. ALOT of new viewers. For a while, we DOUBLED the highest ratings of the first season. I'm sorry some of you did not enjoy the new designs, but I wanted to do it and I felt the gamble paid off.
Dragon did not get renewed for a number of corporate reasons. The ratings were still very solid and we did what we had set out to achieve.
I'm actually thrilled the channel gave me the opportunity to make the new version of Dragon. It was a terrific experience and some of the best episodes have yet to be seen.So the animation change was NOT the reason the show was cancelled. Further proof that maybe the channel just didn't like the show, or that new animated/live-action projects left no room for it.

[tb4000]

I don't even consider Toon Disney an animation channel anymore. I get home at like 6:30 every evening, and from then it's mostly Power Rangers and the random action cartoon. Nothing remotely Disney about it.

[Gokou Ruri]

That's true, but then think about this: Let's say we move all the animated stuff over to Toon Disney, and in fact let's say that you want to have your kids want to watch it. well guess what? Then you're going to have to pay more on your cable bill just to enjoy animation... That is what is called "Animation Exclusivity". If you can't pay the extra cash, then you're not going to get it. pure and simple. I'm not saying to move all the animation to one channel, I'm saying stop having such a bias view against live-action. Unlike Cartoon Network, Disney was never pegged as an "animation only" company, since they've been doing live-action movies and series since the 50's. So this isn't like they're suddenly trying to hop on some bandwagon like Cartoon Network is with "Re-Animated". They've been showing LA shows and movies for decades, along with Nickelodeon. They're kids networks first and foremost, not animation. If that means we get live-action shows than animation, so be it. I'd rather have a good LA show like Suite Life than a random crappy show that's only being praised for being animation (I don't mean Jake Long, just a cartoon in general)


What will happen when only a few people who are lucky to get Toon Disney on their systems and get it for the price of basic cable are the only ones left that are able to talk about animation at all? What then? You'll be lucky to see 1 if not 2 posts a week on this forum, if not a month.. so then it comes back to the point of "Why Bother having a Disney Animation Forum if no one can comment on Disney animation unless it's on DVD or on an Exclusive channel you can't afford to get?Half the threads on this forum are about complaining about Disney sequels, being nostalgic about old Disney shows, and negative stuff about Disney in general. I think we'd still get all those no matter where they stick the new shows.


I don't even consider Toon Disney an animation channel anymore. I get home at like 6:30 every evening, and from then it's mostly Power Rangers and the random action cartoon. Nothing remotely Disney about it. Correct me if I'm wrong, but aren't Power Rangers owned by Disney? That makes them Disney characters. Just because something isn't Mickey Mouse and Donald Duck doesn't mean its not a Disney Character.

[trayguy]

Frankly I am in shock. American Dragon :Jake Long does not deserved ato be canceled. It deserves to have a 3rd season andmore. It was a terrific show unlike Yn Yan Yo.American Dragon had a story line to it which made it very watchable and its characters were very personable. I frankly will miss any new episodes .I hope that it will be bought back sonetime liek Kim Possible was.:(

[Zei-ness]

I love how some of you bring High School Musical, a Disney Channel Original MOVIE, into this. Look, I can see bringing live action into this, but that has some logic - Disney doesn't produce that many cartoons because they don't rack in enough viewers. Hannah Montana premiere night? 8 or so million viewers. The Replacements premiere night? 2 or so million, and it was Disney's highest or something. Kids just don't find cartoons as entertaining anymore - stupid humor or not. And they've somehow gotten a stigma for being uncool unless they're loaded with garbage or adult humor.

I think JL's un-renewal (don't know what to call it; it's not a cancellation as they didn't just randomly stop production and take it off the air) has to do with the fact Disney's ordered quite a good few other new animation shows for this year - some of you might not heard of "The Lumberjacksons", but what about "Phineas & Ferb"? They need room, and JL not being in production gives them a reason to stop promoting it and kick it off the air eventually.

[GuardianKid13]

Hannah Montana premiere night? 8 or so million viewers. The Replacements premiere night?Yea, um HM isn't/wasn't that strong; it got around 5 million viewers. 8 million is HSM.

"Girls Only..please"

That's what the network is trying to say because they got rid of one (the only?) boy-oriented series....

[Antiyonder]

I love how some of you bring High School Musical, a Disney Channel Original MOVIE, into this. Look, I can see bringing live action into this, but that has some logic - Disney doesn't produce that many cartoons because they don't rack in enough viewers. Hannah Montana premiere night? 8 or so million viewers.

Maybe they didn't promote ADJL as well as they did HM. When a show fails, the network always blames the quality of the show not their handling of it.

Second, expectations are too darn high. With Disney, shows didn't always have to be a full blown fad to be considered hits. They just had to be successful. For instance, even though shows like Gummi Bears, Chip N Dales Rescue Rangers and Tale Spin weren't as big in ratings as say Ducktales, Darkwing Duck, Aladdin, Goof Troop and Gargoyles, they were still considered successful enough to have their full 65 run.

Here's how high their expectations are:

Let's say for instance that The Lumberjacksons is contracted for 26 episodes, and whether or not the show gets an additional set of episodes depends on if the premiere gets say 8,500,000 viewers. The premiere has aired for a week and the viewer total comes to 8,499,990. That its self would be impressive, but the execs would throw a hissy fit that they ended up 10 less viewers than planned. It's no longer enough that a show is successful, it's either a fullblown trend or it's out.

That's the problem with Disney.

[Burdette25159]

Disney Cancelling the show is MUCH MUCH WORSER then a network cancelling
the #1 TV show in America!
I think Disney should do one of the following things:

-make new American Dragon episodes for first run Syndication (Thus Disney returning to the first run syndication market!), some shows that first aired on network tv (Only to suffer the same fate as AD:JL) can be brought back to life in first-run Syndication.

-Turn AD:JL into a live action show

-Resolve the Dark Dragon Storyline in a Kim Possible/AD:JL crossover (The KP villians would be Drakken and Shego)

-Make a AD:JL crossover Theatrical movie (I can see the tagline now: Have Jake Long and Bonkers D. Bobcat Finally met their match? Find Out this Christmas!)

-Make A AD:JL TV Movie!

[Viper_Strike]

I hated that show anyways, thats good to hear thanks for the news maybe disney channel can do something better or something.:raven:

[GuardianKid13]

Maybe they didn't promote ADJL as well as they did HM. When a show fails, the network always blames the quality of the show not their handling of it.

Second, expectations are too darn high. With Disney, shows didn't always have to be a full blown fad to be considered hits. They just had to be successful. For instance, even though shows like Gummi Bears, Chip N Dales Rescue Rangers and Tale Spin weren't as big in ratings as say Ducktales, Darkwing Duck, Aladdin, Goof Troop and Gargoyles, they were still considered successful enough to have their full 65 run.

Here's how high their expectations are:

Let's say for instance that The Lumberjacksons is contracted for 26 episodes, and whether or not the show gets an additional set of episodes depends on if the premiere gets say 8,500,000 viewers. The premiere has aired for a week and the viewer total comes to 8,499,990. That its self would be impressive, but the execs would throw a hissy fit that they ended up 10 less viewers than planned. It's no longer enough that a show is successful, it's either a fullblown trend or it's out.

That's the problem with Disney.
No show on Disney on it's premiere got that high rating in millions or even close to it (atleast to my knowledge) so I don't know why they would expect so much, now if it was a movie then well that's different...

[Ykwia]

I'm wondering, Why are people liking Disney Channel all of a sudden.

They've sucked for years.

[GuardianKid13]

I'm wondering, Why are people liking Disney Channel all of a sudden.

They've sucked for years.
It seems Kim Possible's recent date for the new season did some whammy on people's minds.:sweat: :p lol j/k

[tucsoncoyote]

I'm wondering, Why are people liking Disney Channel all of a sudden.

They've sucked for years.

And that's just one pessimist's Opinion... Actually it's funny cause folks say Disney sucks, yet they have a 2nd place ranking according to Cynopsis kids.com and they have bad shows (Both Animation and Live action wise) and yet they attract the largest numbers in just one demographic?

So then if they all of a sudden got better, then why is there so much Pessimism in the ranks? It's hard to say.. but maybe someone could shed a little light on why Disney is suddenly improving..(Oh wait I know the answer but I can't even say why..)

but it doesn't take a rocket scientist to figure that one out now does it?


But as for Jake Long, it's a shame to see this show go south and get cancelled, just as things are starting to look up.. I mean in a couple years I feel Kyle Massey is going to need work when his show Cory in the House ends.. so why not give the guy a VA Job in some new Disney Animated series at least it'll give him a steady paycheck!

:coyote: