Which New System is Better? [Archive]

Naraht

01-27-2002, 01:01 PM

get a super nintendo...they're cheep.

or if You want, I'll sell ya my N64...I have one game, it's crap..and I don't use the damn system.

I want a GB:Advance...it has great games, is affordable (cept I'm broke) and it looks cool.

I dunno, GC's game for me is SSB:M, which suppossedly has better one person play (which I would like) and Multiplayer kicks butt.

PS has alot of good games though.

just don't get an XBox, cause they are sucky

Bird Boy

01-27-2002, 01:07 PM

it's all in what you like. if you see games on PS2 you want, then get that. GameCube has a few more "must-have" games coming out this year, but, if they aren't to your liking, then I wouldn't worry about it.

So, overall, if you have $300, and another $200 for games, then get a PS2.

The best thing about the GameCube is the cost ($200). But, if you don't see anything good on it..why spend $200 on a system that doesn't have the games you want? :)

-BB

Zorakfan

01-27-2002, 01:12 PM

I'd say yeah, go PS2 or GC.
PS2 is better just for versatility. Sony usually gets rights to a broader range of games. It's more of a Do-all machine. That and FFX is almost a reason to buy the whole damn thing. (well, if weren't so expensive)

GC is all about frame rate and Multiplayer. Gamecube's graphics and frame rate are incredibly smooth, and some of the graphic effects are out of this world. It's cheaper too, and SSBM is THE game to buy with your GC.

Overall, it's a matter of preferance. Of course, I'm indicisive about a lot of things, so I ended up with both. I wouldn't recommend X-box though. (Although Halo is fantastical and a half)

Sumi_Masen

01-27-2002, 01:17 PM

the X-box sucks, my brother was stupid enough to waste his money on it.....I heard somewhere that you can play PS games on the PS2, is that true? Anyway, PS2 or GC, both are good.

Bird Boy

01-27-2002, 01:19 PM

Originally posted by Sumi_Masen
the X-box sucks, my brother was stupid enough to waste his money on it.....I heard somewhere that you can play PS games on the PS2, is that true? Anyway, PS2 or GC, both are good.

yeah, I meant to mention that..

the backwards compatibility with PSX and PS2 is great. BUT. be warned..Sony is hoping to release PS3 somtime this year.

-BB

Naraht

01-27-2002, 01:25 PM

Sumi_Masen

01-27-2002, 02:10 PM

Originally posted by naraht

PS3!!

Bloody hell, the PS2 still runs $300! Heck, the PS1 still runs $100!

what's the PS3 gonna cost? Your soul?

heh heh heh, I'll give you a PS3 if you give your soul to me......sorry about that, couldn't resist. :D

The Dark Knight

01-27-2002, 02:17 PM

Originally posted by Bird Boy

yeah, I meant to mention that..

the backwards compatibility with PSX and PS2 is great. BUT. be warned..Sony is hoping to release PS3 somtime this year.

-BB

Don't count on that happening. I don't know where you heard that the PS3 will be coming out this year, but it's not going to happen, and since the PS2 is still making quite a bit of money I don't see any reason why they would want to. Also, if you plan on getting the PS2 I might hold off on doing that just yet. It's been out for a while, and I expect that Sony will announce a price cut at E3 this March. However, I’m not positive that they will, so don't wait if you don't want to.

KingKoopa

01-27-2002, 02:30 PM

Sony IS NOT going to release the PS3 this year. There's a chance it MAY come out next year, but 2004 is MUCH more likely. 2005 is more likely that 2003, but I have a feeling it'll be 2004.

The Dork Knight

01-27-2002, 03:48 PM

GC or PS2. If you want more MATURE games (Like MGS2) then get a PS2. If you want kid friendly games, then get GC. Honestly then both rule. I just wish Nintendo would grow up and stop making Pukemon games from a few years.

- Foley Is Good

The Dork Knight

01-27-2002, 03:51 PM

PS3?!?!?!?!?!
Jeeze! They keep on pumping systems out now! I just got a PS1 and happy with that!

- Foley Is Good

Failure

01-27-2002, 03:52 PM

Dont rule out the Xbox, it looked pretty good to me. My friend has one and it seemed pretty cool, at least as good as the PS2. That said, I recently got a GC.

The Dork Knight

01-27-2002, 04:01 PM

The main reason I want PS2 is because of....
WWF SMACKDOWN! 3

I'm already a master of 1&2.

- Foley Is Good

Batmex

01-27-2002, 04:23 PM

Get a Gameboy Advance, it has very good games and many more on the way!

I have 'Super Street Fighter 2: Turbo Revival' and it rocks!

Comming soon:

The Kiing of fighters Ex Neoblood!

Watagashi

01-27-2002, 04:29 PM

A PS3 already?! :eek: Man, they're bringing out way too many consoles at once! I'm just gonna stick with my PS2. :wakko:

Zorakfan

01-27-2002, 04:33 PM

I'll tell you what floats my boat:

Uneven pressure. The pressure pushing up from the water is greater than the pressure pushing down in the air. Because of this, I stay atop the water but below the air. This is why boats don't fly and why Cabbit's are notorious, STD laden drunkards.

mbaker

01-27-2002, 04:56 PM

PS2 all the way baby! You can keep your old PS1 games, and play movies! How cool is that?!?

Thad Komorowski

01-27-2002, 05:13 PM

Well, thanks for the advice, guys. I'm planning on buying a PS2 in the summer, since my birthday is in June, and PS2 will be down in price probably.

BTW, I was at an Ames today that was going out of buisness, and they had five brand new Game Gear systems for $23 each! :eek:

-Thad

The Dork Knight

01-27-2002, 05:53 PM

Dangit! And I paid 30 for my Game Gear! :D :p

- Foley Is Good

The Mad Hatter

01-27-2002, 06:21 PM

Poo. I was all set to give my sage advice, but looks like you beat me to it.

But you can't go wrong with the PS2... it's finally getting a good selection of great games. The Gamecube has Nintendo's programing muscle behind it, and despite the fact that they have a "kiddie" look they're some of the best games in the biz. But, at least for now, the system's selection can't touch the PS2's.

Xbox... pfeh. Aside from Halo, all their games have been utterly generic pieces of marketing comittee-generated slush.

The Dark Knight

01-27-2002, 06:28 PM

Originally posted by Thad K
Well, thanks for the advice, guys. I'm planning on buying a PS2 in the summer, since my birthday is in June, and PS2 will be down in price probably.

BTW, I was at an Ames today that was going out of buisness, and they had five brand new Game Gear systems for $23 each! :eek:

-Thad

Brand new? They're probably just old systems they had in storage.

Oh, and i'll say it again for those that weren't paying attention. PS3 is not coming out this year, and don't expect it next year either.

Vin

01-27-2002, 07:22 PM

I'd definitely go with Playstation 2. I'm a proud owner of a Playstation 2 and can play several of my old Playstation games on it, in addition to DVDs. If you have Playstation, go with Playstation 2. XBox looks good, but long term, I'd stick with Sony.

DarkAngel

01-27-2002, 07:33 PM

Originally posted by Thad K
I'm planning on buying a PS2 in the summer, since my birthday is in June, and PS2 will be down in price probably.

That's cool. PS2 is definitely great. My opinion is all three systems have/will have great games, so it comes down to specifically which ones you want to play. You've said there are games you want on PS2, so that definitely sounds like the system you should go for. In any case, whichever system you do end up buying, you'll be satisfied. They're all going to have some great games.

DarkAngel

01-27-2002, 07:35 PM

Originally posted by Foley Is Good
The main reason I want PS2 is because of....
WWF SMACKDOWN! 3

That's one reason I want a PS2. But I've been hearing that the season mode is terrible. So right now, I'm waiting for Wrestlemania to be released on GC. If the game gets great reviews, I might get the GC instead of the PS2.

killercroc

01-28-2002, 09:12 AM

Everyone is saying the X-Box sucks but no one is giving any reasons.

My nephew has a PS2 and an X-box and currently the PS2 is setting in the corner collecting dust. I have played a couple of games on the X-Box(Halo, Tricky, and some fighting game) and they all rocked. I haven't played a PS2 so I can't say anything about them, my point is that X-Box doesn't suck.

Halo is just incredible as a team play game. We had so much fun with it.

With the built in Hard drive with massive storage the potential of this system has not yet been fully realized. Another cool thing is that you can put your own music into the hard drive and let it play while the game is going.

I'd say look for really cool things to happen with the X-Box.

Failure

01-28-2002, 09:22 AM

I think most of the opposition to the X-box exists because of a hatred for Microsoft. I honestly thought it was a pretty cool system when I played it.

Clayface

01-28-2002, 09:31 AM

Originally posted by killercroc
Everyone is saying the X-Box sucks but no one is giving any reasons.

Well, I hate it for a number of reasons. I haven't seen a single game on it that I'd like to play - Halo doesn't interest me, and I'm not a big multi-player-game person. If had one, it would be sitting int he corner collecting dust while my PS2 gets a daily workout.

But more than anything, its a hatred for Microsoft. I don't care for their business practices, nor their products in general. It ticks me off that they've got such a grasp on the computer world, because their software is such a pain to use. The last thing in the world I want to happen is for them to get a strangle hold on the gaming console world on top of everything else. They get enough of my money because I have to use thier computer software and products. I'm not giving them any more by purchasing their game console.

killercroc

01-28-2002, 10:04 AM

Originally posted by Failure
I think most of the opposition to the X-box exists because of a hatred for Microsoft. I honestly thought it was a pretty cool system when I played it.

I kinda figured that was at the root of it. I say why cut off your nose to spite your face.

On the other hand Windows ME Sucks!

Bird Boy

01-28-2002, 10:30 AM

my X-BOX hatred is triggered by Microsoft.

That and the fact that there isn't a single game on it I want to play (Batman:Vengeance WOULD'VE been the exception, but I got it on GCN).

And a thing I wanted to bring up:

People are saying Rogue Leader is the most GameCube can handle. In other words, You see Rogue Leader, that's as high as GameCube's graphics can go.

But, if you've played rogue leader, there are plenty of times you feel like you're in the movie (it's a insanely weird feeling), so why wouldn't you want to play a bunch of games like that? If all games can look as good as Rogue Leader does, then what's everybody fussing about?

N64's game started getting graphically impressive towards the end of it's run...so, if we have the best graphically impressive games to begin with on GameCube, then it's gonna be a sweet system..

Phew, I think that was the longest post I've done in a long time..lol

-BB

Batmex

01-28-2002, 11:30 AM

Techniqualy(sp) both the PS2 and the X-box are much more powerful than the Cube but this are some words of wisdom:

"All the power in the world will be useless if the games suck"

Nintendo's newest console may not be as "high Tech" as his competitors but it's games are F U N!

While some Games on PS2 do not live up to its potential.

Failure

01-28-2002, 11:51 AM

I thought in terms of "power" GC was more advanced than PS2, but less so than X-box.

Clayface

01-28-2002, 11:52 AM

Originally posted by Batmex

Nintendo's newest console may not be as "high Tech" as his competitors but it's games are F U N!

While some Games on PS2 do not live up to its potential.

Well, that depends on what your idea of fun is. The only game that appealed to me personally on the GC was Rogue Leader, and after I played it, I wasn't terribly thrilled with it.

But games like Metal Gear Solid 2 and Final Fantasy 8 definitely are fun to me. There's just nothing on the GC that gets me excited. It all depends on your gaming preferences.

Clayface

01-28-2002, 12:07 PM

Originally posted by Failure
I thought in terms of "power" GC was more advanced than PS2, but less so than X-box.

You can't really compare them anymore. The PS2 is a different type of beast than the GC and Xbox - its a parallel processing machine. Each one has advantages over each of the others.

Psycho Fox

01-28-2002, 12:15 PM

Originally posted by Failure
I think most of the opposition to the X-box exists because of a hatred for Microsoft. I honestly thought it was a pretty cool system when I played it. Well that is one reason there is also

- I have not found a killer game that would make me shell out the money for it.

- It is the least portable. It is too big and akward if you want to pack it so you can play it on campus, at work, at a freinds house or bring it along to play in hotel rooms when your on the road.

- I heard there is already an X-box emu so if Ican play it on a PC why the hell should I pay for the X-Box.

- While the X-Box might be easy to program for in high level languages like C I'm not sure it would be easy to program for in assembly and if it isn't it would shorten the life of the console.

DarkAngel

01-28-2002, 12:30 PM

Originally posted by Psycho Fox
Well that is one reason there is also

- I have not found a killer game that would make me shell out the money for it.

I felt that way too until I played Halo, which blew me away. One of my roommates has it, so I've played a lot of multiplayer (coop and deathmatch). Of course, as a single player game, I don't think I'd play it much at all, but as a multiplayer game, it's incredible.

Other than that, there's Madden, Batman Vengeance, a couple SW titles, Dead or Alive 3, and coming soon Unreal Championship and Raw is War. And of course there are other titles.

I'm not saying everybody's going to love these titles or that all of them are exclusive to X-box. But the ones I've mentioned are good games and there will definitely be more coming.

Also, some of the criticisms I've heard don't seem warranted. I don't have particularly large hands, but the controllers seemed a perfect fit. I've played a lot of Halo over the last couple weeks, and I've never had a problem. Similarly, the size of the console doesn't seem nearly as problematic as everyone has said. I was surprised when I actually saw it. Given what everybody was saying, I was expecting a monstrous behemoth of a system. It's not that at all. And I've actually lifted it. It's not heavy at all. So that's not an issue from what I've experienced.

I personally would buy a PS2, so I'm not saying to run out and buy an X-box or that it's the best system out. But I think the criticisms have been unfair. That's all I want to point out.

killercroc

01-28-2002, 12:48 PM

Originally posted by Psycho Fox
Well that is one reason there is also

- I have not found a killer game that would make me shell out the money for it.

- It is the least portable. It is too big and akward if you want to pack it so you can play it on campus, at work, at a freinds house or bring it along to play in hotel rooms when your on the road.

- I heard there is already an X-box emu so if Ican play it on a PC why the hell should I pay for the X-Box.

- While the X-Box might be easy to program for in high level languages like C I'm not sure it would be easy to program for in assembly and if it isn't it would shorten the life of the console.

I don't know if you've played Halo or not, but it is a killer game. For fans of first person shooters anyway. Still that's a matter of personal preference. It's just a matter of time until they do come with a killer game in other categories.

I didn't realized that many people carried their consoles around. Even so, you still have to deal with all the wires. Also, if you're going to carry around a PS2 or GC, there's not that much difference in carrying around an X-Box.

I haven't heard about an X-Box emu, but I know the PS emu's are on shaky ground legally. Not that it really matters while they still are legal. but if there's already one for X-Box surely PS2 isn't far behind, or GC. I don't really know about that, just a guess.

I dunno about programming languages, but don't see how a more complex language would shorten the life of the console.

Anyway, I don't feel passionately about this I guess I'm just playing the devils advocate. I'll never be able to justify spending the money on any of those systems anyway.

The Dark Knight

01-28-2002, 05:57 PM

Originally posted by Batmex

Techniqualy(sp) both the PS2 and the X-box are much more powerful than the Cube

The GC is more powerful than the PS2, and so is the X-Box. Comparing the X-Box and GC is a little tricky, since both are better at different things. However, it really doesn't matter and should not be a deciding factor considering all three can do some amazing things, and so the games themselves are what should be looked at.

Originally posted by Batmex

Nintendo's newest console may not be as "high Tech" as his competitors but it's games are F U N!

Yes, but what about the problem the N64 had? 1 great game every few months just isn't going to cut it, and the delays that Nintendo is already having with many games aren't a good sign. There are also rumors that the new Metroid game, a FPS now, isn't going to live up to the greatness of the series.

Also, to quote EGM associate editor Jon Dudlak, "Remember those mystery ports underneath the N64, Super NES, and NES? Those are Nintendo's failed attempts at growth and evolution, and the GameCube has three of them!" Many criticize the PS2 for making people pay extra for a hard drive and other expansions, but at least its attempts are making it past the planning stages.

Originally posted by Psycho Fox

- I heard there is already an X-box emu so if Ican play it on a PC why the hell should I pay for the X-Box.

An X-Box emulator? I don't think one exists yet, but if it does you would need a really powerful computer to be able to run it, and that would cost more than an actual X-Box.

And for those looking for reasons as to why they should get an X-Box: SEGA. True, it is providing games across all platforms, but it seems that the X-Box is its favorite. Just look at Shenmue 2, it doesn't get more high profile than that.

And what do I think? PS2 is the system to buy. I just prefer the games on the PS2 to those appearing on other systems.

Naraht

01-28-2002, 06:00 PM

Actually...a number of Nintendos expansions did happen.....they just didn't make it out of Japan...*sigh*

Psycho Fox

01-28-2002, 07:05 PM

Originally posted by killercroc

I don't know if you've played Halo or not, but it is a killer game. For fans of first person shooters anyway. Still that's a matter of personal preference. It's just a matter of time until they do come with a killer game in other categories.I played Halo and I agree it is a good first person shooter but big deal I could rent a x-box or borrow one and play Halo if I wanted to. There has to be more then that.

I didn't realized that many people carried their consoles around. Even so, you still have to deal with all the wires. Also, if you're going to carry around a PS2 or GC, there's not that much difference in carrying around an X-Box. When you setting it up in a hotel room, on a desk, counter, ect you don't fell like making too much room for it which is why a small size is a good thing. Like if I ever did an X-Box tournament at my campus I would actully have to think where to set it up where the others are small enough that they can fit most anywhere.

I haven't heard about an X-Box emu, but I know the PS emu's are on shaky ground legally. Not that it really matters while they still are legal. but if there's already one for X-Box surely PS2 isn't far behind, or GC. I don't really know about that, just a guess.See the GC and PS2 are much more diffent from a IBM compatable PC then the others. An X-Box emulator wouldn't have to emulate much since alot is the same.

I dunno about programming languages, but don't see how a more complex language would shorten the life of the console.Ok here is the deal when a system is new most game are written in a high language like C becouse it is easier but the downside is it is less effecent. When the console ages more and more games are done in assembler since the programers can shoehorn better graphics and speed out of it.

Bird Boy

01-28-2002, 07:51 PM

Actually, a X-BOX emulator has indeed been discovered. Basically, all you need is the emulator and all the parts inside the XBOX (Which almost EVERY PC has), and poof..you can play XBOX games on yer PC.

How do I know this? my brother has it..

-BB

The Mad Hatter

01-28-2002, 08:07 PM

Like I've said before, Xbox games (the first-party titles, anyway) just flat lack creativity. I've played a bit of Azurik and Nightcaster, and both honestly seemed to be made to appeal to a marketing demographic rather than trying something different. Oddworld... just didn't have the same creative oomph as the first two. Maybe they ran out of time, but it just seemed less creative than the first two. I hate Microsoft (the company) with a passion, but I've given the games a chance... and they just don't work with me.

I liked FF8 too, but I thought the battle system was a bit weak. There was way too much of a dependence on the summon creatures.

GL2k2

01-29-2002, 06:05 AM

I own a Playstation and paid $289 for it. It is by far the best system as far as I consider. If you like games, you're getting all those games from the PS1 as they're calling it. Someone's still making games for it too, since it got that upgrade to laptop screen.

Also, you can play DVD's. It even has a remote control sold separately. You can't beat that. You're getting a library of over 500 games, plus new ones. And you get to play movies as well. That's enough for me.

apple head

01-29-2002, 06:32 AM

I have a Dreamcats and I'm very happy with the games. I might pick up Monkey Ball soon as Launch games tend to dissapear after the second generation of titles and buy the Game Cube after Christmass this year. I can wait. The X-box is massive and ugly and beside Jet Grind Radio Future none of the games intice me. The Cube is getting all the Resident Evil games and Sonic Games all I need for convincing while the PS2 well.... beside GTA3 most games I don't like.

Then again I still play My Mega Drive. Sonic 3 with Sonic&Knuckles is the Bomb!

Bird Boy

01-29-2002, 09:19 AM

Originally posted by apple head
I have a Dreamcats and I'm very happy with the games. I might pick up Monkey Ball soon as Launch games tend to dissapear after the second generation of titles and buy the Game Cube after Christmass this year. I can wait. The X-box is massive and ugly and beside Jet Grind Radio Future none of the games intice me. The Cube is getting all the Resident Evil games and Sonic Games all I need for convincing while the PS2 well.... beside GTA3 most games I don't like.

Then again I still play My Mega Drive. Sonic 3 with Sonic&Knuckles is the Bomb!

Ahh yes..the Dreamcast. A truely GREAT system.

But, if you didn't jump on the 'Cast wagon last year, then finding games you want is gonna be a PAIN IN THE BUTT. Believe me, I know, all that's left right now are sports games..

but, I got a pretty decent selection of games as far as I'm concerned... :)

-BB

electricsheep

01-29-2002, 09:45 AM

I'll throw my vote into this...

PS2 - besides the entire library of PS1 games, the system has a lot of games out and a lot coming that I want to play and consider "must-haves"...

btw - to refer to something earlier in this thread, Sony pretty much owns half of Square, so I really doubt many of the FF games will be going to other consoles, but things do change...