Your favorite Pierce Brosnan Bond movie

[Hades]

Pierce Brosnan was an average Bond, no where near as bad Timothy Dalty and that other guy that only lasted 1 movie (which I have never seen). However, despite Pierce's lack of being a completely great Bond, he did have a few decent movies. Well, one really terrible one, two enjoyable ones, and one great one, which I think is Tomorrow Never Dies. Which is your favorite Brosnan Bond movie?

[KuwabaraTheMan]

I don't know. I never saw Die Another Day, but I enjoyed Goldeneye, Tommorow Never Dies, and the World Is Not Enough. I'd have a hard time picking a favorite.

Though if I had to, probably Tommorow Never Dies.

[DarkAngel]

Pierce Brosnan was an average Bond, no where near as bad Timothy Dalty and that other guy that only lasted 1 movie (which I have never seen).
I found Brosnan to be very good and he was my favorite (until now, possibly, with Craig's arrival). "Goldeneye" is my favorite, followed by TND and DAD. TWINE was the only one that I felt was truly lackluster. DAD was a little too slick and special-effect heavy, but I found it to be quite enjoyable.

[Metabee]

I forget the movie title, which isn't exclusive to Bond.

It's the one with Bond in some prison with a beard.

Then it's the one where the girl who was kidnapped had Stockholm Syndrome or whatever.

Really liked seeing Terri Hatcher's character bite it.

Die Another Day purely because I like that Madonna song, which has grown on me since the grocery store that I work at plays it a lot or whatever funky radio (satelite?) station plays rap, country, pop, and circus (at least sounds like it) music.

[Zeonic Freak]

LAWNMOWER MAN!!!! I thought that movie with him was awsome...

http://www.dvdheaven.co.kr/goods_image/The%20Lawnmower%20Man.jpg

[Michael24]

Goldeneye, and that's the only Brosnan Bond movie I liked. (Though I did like him in Tomorrow Never Dies, it was just the rest of the movie that sucked.)

Oh, and Timothy Dalton ruled as Bond, and George Lazenby is not as bad as his reputation suggests. Overall, I'd rank Brosnan as my third favorite Bond, maybe fourth since Roger Moore did more movies that I liked than Brosnan did.

[Hanshotfirst113]

Pierce Brosnan was an average Bond, no where near as bad Timothy Dalty and that other guy that only lasted 1 movie (which I have never seen).

If you've never seen it, how do you know he was bad? And I though that Dalton was much underrated myself.

[Michael24]

Yes, On Her Majesty's Secret Service is generally considered to have the best story, and the action scenes have always been highly-regarded. The climactic fight between Bond and Blofeld on the bobsled run is still exciting today.

The Living Daylights and Licence To Kill were great attempts to get Bond back on track after the more comical Roger Moore era (though Moore did have some good films). Both did well financially, despite Licence To Kill's reputation of stalling out the franchise. It was legal disputes that kept Bond off the screen after 1989, not LTK's box office performance.

[Ragebot]

LAWNMOWER MAN!!!! I thought that movie with him was awsome...


The Matador.

[DarkAngel]

If you've never seen it, how do you know he was bad? And I though that Dalton was much underrated myself.
Agreed. Dalton was definitely underrated. He brought a definite edge and intensity to the role, which I loved. "The Living Daylights" kind of stunk, from what I remember (don't jump on me if I'm wrong, I haven't seen it in a while), and the fact that he was in only two movies doesn't help. "License to Kill" is one of my favorites, though.

And no, Lazenby wasn't as bad as many make out. He might not have been great, but I didn't think he hurt the movie, either.


The climactic fight between Bond and Blofeld on the bobsled run is still exciting today.
I didn't think so when I watched it the night after seeing "Casino Royale". Of course, the action in CF was, to quote a friend, "off the hook", so I suppose its not surprising.

[Michael24]

The Living Daylights is my personal favorite Bond movie. I like that Bond actually got to focus on one woman for a change and gets a semi-romantic storyline admist all the action. And Licence To Kill, well, that was the down and gritty Bond as Flemming wrote him. Dalton definitely deserved more outings, and it's a same the legal disputes forced him to eventually give up and drop out. :(

And I think Lazenby, if he hadn't let his ego get in the way, could have easily made the role his own.


I didn't think so when I watched it the night after seeing "Casino Royale". Of course, the action in CF was, to quote a friend, "off the hook", so I suppose its not surprising.

The airport tarmac chase was pretty sweet, but I'll still take OHMSS's action scenes over Casino Royale's. :D

[Zeonic Freak]

The airport tarmac chase was pretty sweet, but I'll still take OHMSS's action scenes over Casino Royale's. :D

I think the best part in CR (which i think the whole movie was awsome) was when he was getting whacked in the bawls... thats pretty mainly/painful to go through. Yea, i was digging and squrming, but its just a memerable part to see bond in a tough interogattion like that, and still be awsome and make his jokes like "TO THE RIGHT, TO THE RIGHT!!!!" XD.

I just know that On Her Majesty's Secret Service had Telly Savales in it, since ive seen the end where Telly kills bonds wife but then he drives of a cliff or something. But, i would watch that movie, because Telly Savales is in it (KELLY'S HEROES FTW!!!!)

[Nin-Nin69]

Mrs. Doubtfire since it's one of his most forgetable roles. :p

[Mog]

All this talk about his roles as James Bond is fine, but you all seem to forget The Thomas Crown Affair, which is Brosnan's best work.

In case someone doesn't know, the sequel is called The Topkapi Affair and should be out sometime next year, also starring Brosnan.

[Michael24]

I just know that On Her Majesty's Secret Service had Telly Savales in it, since ive seen the end where Telly kills bonds wife but then he drives of a cliff or something. But, i would watch that movie, because Telly Savales is in it (KELLY'S HEROES FTW!!!!)

The first half of your spoiler is correct, but not the second. :)

If we're talking about all of Pierce Brosnan's films, including non-Bond flicks, I'd say my favorite is Live Wire. Getting to hear Brosnan drop the F-bomb several times was pretty sweet. :D He was also good as the bad guy in the TV movie Never Talk To Strangers, which he did just before Goldeneye and (I think) aired the same year. Detonator and Detonator II (Bond-esque TV movies) and The Matador were pretty good, too. And I did like him in The Thomas Crown Affair, but I thought the film was unbearable to sit through.

[Classic Speedy]

Mrs. Doubtfire since it's one of his most forgetable roles. :p "What can I say? The guy's a loooooooosah."

In terms of his Bond films, my fave is Goldeneye, followed by Die Another Day, then Tomorrow Never Dies, and finally The World is Not Enough. It's no surprise that I liked Goldeneye the best, since Martin Campbell directed both that and the recent Casino Royale.

Oddly enough, when I first watched TWINE in theaters, I thought it was the BEST Brosnan Bond movie so far, but I think that was just a post-viewing rush that was only fueled when my friends were listing off their favorite scenes. Upon rewatching it, I wasn't terribly fond of it, especially Denise Richards as Christmas Jones, whom I initially liked because... well... I found Denise hot. But I think my crush on her clouded my ability to see that her acting was so corny and was introduced too late in the game to really have much of an impact.

It had a few good action scenes (i.e. the boat chase in the beginning) but its script left a lot to be desired.

[Michael24]

Yeah, I definitely give props to TWINE's teaser sequence, despite how long it takes to get to the credits. The boat chase is awesome. I just wish they had kept Maria Grazia Cucinotta's character for the rest of the film.


"What can I say? The guy's a loooooooosah."

LOL!!!

[Cortez2301]

I liked "The world is not enough" the best."Goldeneye" and "Die another day" come right after it.

[Hades]

All this talk about his roles as James Bond is fine, but you all seem to forget The Thomas Crown Affair, which is Brosnan's best work.

In case someone doesn't know, the sequel is called The Topkapi Affair and should be out sometime next year, also starring Brosnan.

Actually the topic title was supposed to be "Your Favorite Pierce Brosnan Bond Movie," but for some reason, Bond did not seem to get put there. I guess I should have tripled checked my topic title before posting. Is there a mod that can add Bond to that?

[Zeonic Freak]

The first half of your spoiler is correct, but not the second. :)

If we're talking about all of Pierce Brosnan's films, including non-Bond flicks, I'd say my favorite is Live Wire. Getting to hear Brosnan drop the F-bomb several times was pretty sweet. :D He was also good as the bad guy in the TV movie Never Talk To Strangers, which he did just before Goldeneye and (I think) aired the same year. Detonator and Detonator II (Bond-esque TV movies) and The Matador were pretty good, too. And I did like him in The Thomas Crown Affair, but I thought the film was unbearable to sit through.

I seem to see those Detonator movies at my local vid store, you think i should check them out?

[Noukon]

Brosnan was a fantastic Bond; it's a damned shame he was stuck in such awful films.

Goldeneye was, far and away, the best Bond film with Brosnan. It's easily one of my favorite Bond films in general.

Tomorrow Never Dies was a competent action film, but failed as a Bond film (aside from a few very well done set pieces, notably the parking garage sequence).

The World is Not Enough and Die Another Day physically hurt me.

[Terminatah]

I thought it was universally agreed upon that the best of the four Brosnan Bond films was definitively GoldenEye.

It's been a while since I last saw Tomorrow Never Dies, although I remember it being not that great, and I actually only saw The World Is Not Enough once in the theater, and then never again, so I can't even remember how good or bad it was. Die Another Day I also haven't seen since the theater, but that was more recent, so I do remember it somewhat, and it was a fun movie, what with the opening prison camp montage and all the homages to the previous movies (and the freakin invisible car), but let's get real. None of these ever came close to GoldenEye.

-Terminatah

[FireWarrior]

Goldeneye, easily my top favorite. Followed by The World's Not Enough, Die Another Day, and last Tomorrow Never Dies.

[Simpler Simon]

1 GoldenEye - The Living Daylights was the first I saw when I was a kid, but GoldenEye reinspired the love for the series in me.

2 Die Another Day - I'm willing to take the sci-fi stuff in stride, because overall this was Brosnan's most seasoned performance, and also had one of the better politically topical stories (blowing through the Korean NML)

3 World is Not Enough - the first hour is great, the second hour seems to stall and drag. Pierce looked incredibly worn and tired in this one.

4 Tomorrow Never Dies - classy but mindless. At one point you realize that everyones in on the joke that this is only a movie, and Brosnan's just having too much fun.

[Damien]

Goldeneye, followed closely by The World is Not Enough. Tomorrow Never Dies was okay. Die Another Day was...ugh...seriously?

[Hanshotfirst113]

I thought it was universally agreed upon that the best of the four Brosnan Bond films was definitively GoldenEye.

Is anything in the universe universally agreed upon?

[Hades]

Goldeneye, followed closely by The World is Not Enough. Tomorrow Never Dies was okay. Die Another Day was...ugh...seriously?

YOu know, I recently saw Die Another Day again the other day, and it was not as bad as I remember it. Sure, it is no where near the greatest Bond movie, but I've seen worse (The Spy Who Loved Me comes to mind).

[Hanshotfirst113]

YOu know, I recently saw Die Another Day again the other day, and it was not as bad as I remember it. Sure, it is no where near the greatest Bond movie, but I've seen worse (The Spy Who Loved Me comes to mind).

I'll take TSWLM over DAD anyday. At least it's willing to acknowledge it sense of fun.

[Michael24]

Yeah, The Spy Who Loved Me is easily one of Roger Moore's best outings, second only to For Your Eyes Only in my book. Even Moore felt it was his best.

[Leaping Larry Jojo]

I felt Brosnan was the most boring Bond, to be honest. I understand he's the most popular with younger viewers (although some older fans like him too). I just felt he never played Bond beyond being"cool". He didn't strike me as witty, ruthless, human, cocky or anything the other Bonds brought to the table. He was just "cool" and that's it.

Case in point--When Brosnan plugs away Dr Kaufman in TND, I didn't feel the coldness of an assassin like I do when Connery did stuff like that.

As for Lazenby, I couldn't shake my impression that he resembled Prince Charles. That ruined any enjoyment I had of the single movie he did (even though it was a good MOVIE).

Connery is best. Tie between Dalton and Moore. Then Brosnan. Then Lazenby.

Undecided on Craig.

[Gpoliceman]

1. Goldeneye is the best.

2. Die Another Day wasn't bad. The opening sequence was awesome, as well as Bond's torture and his antagonist relationship with "M". The action scenes were good, although too sci-fi. The thing about Die Another Day I hated was Halle Berry. I don't like Halle Berry as an actress in general. She wasn't at all interesting as Jinx, and yet she got paired with Bond as if she was equally cool. I remember when movie news said "Jinx" was getting her own spin-off movie, like anybody in the world gave a crap about that. So I hated how Bond got Jinx as a side-kick throughout the whole movie. I hate it when the filmmakers SHOVE a character in your face, whether you like them or not.

Halle Berry also sucks because she complained and complained (supposedly, so I read) about her lack of a role in the X-Men films, so they beefed up her role in X-Men 3, took over Cyclops as the leader (sucks), and even still she made Storm completely uninteresting as a character.

Also, she barfed all over the Catwoman legacy.

She sucks.

Okay! Back to Bond!

3. World is Not Enough - good, but kinda too slow and boring. And the big-boobed girl (what's her name? she was married to Charlie Sheen) as a nuclear scientist waslaughable.

4. Tomorrow Never Dies - the worst. The villain was just hammy.

[Leaping Larry Jojo]

4. Tomorrow Never Dies - the worst. The villain was just hammy.

I don't know. I liked the Michelle Yeoh character. I know people yell neo-feminist over it, but I quite liked the idea of Bond meeting a woman doing Bond-like things. That automatically raises it from standard Bond fare.

Agree about the villain though. Didn't impress me. Also when he did that "cha-cha" kung-fu thing when insulting Wai Lin, it was cringe-worthy.

[Michael24]

Case in point--When Brosnan plugs away Dr Kaufman in TND, I didn't feel the coldness of an assassin like I do when Connery did stuff like that.


I actually felt that was the best moment in the film, reminding me of the hard-edge we got with the Dalton movies. Unfortunately, nothing afterwards lived up to that. :(

If TND had had a stronger villain (you cast Jonathan Pryce and then have him basically do nothing in the part?), a more menacing henchman, and someone other than Michelle Yeoh, I might have enjoyed it more. Not to mention leaving k.d. Lang's "Surrender" as the title song instead of that awful Sheryl Crow one. Otherwise, I basically only put it in occasionally to watch the action scenes.

[Leaping Larry Jojo]

I actually felt that was the best moment in the film, reminding me of the hard-edge we got with the Dalton movies. Unfortunately, nothing afterwards lived up to that. :(
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It's a great SCENE. But Brosnan didn't sell it well enough.

In the end, that was the problem with Brosnan's Bond films I guess. He never had an identity in them. If you wanted HEROIC Bond, you were better off with Roger Moore. If you wanted a believable Fleming-oriented Bond, you went with Dalton. If you wanted someone with a bit of swagger and power to his attitude, you went with Connery.

[Hanshotfirst113]

I don't know. I liked the Michelle Yeoh character. I know people yell neo-feminist over it, but I quite liked the idea of Bond meeting a woman doing Bond-like things. That automatically raises it from standard Bond fare.

Agree about the villain though. Didn't impress me. Also when he did that "cha-cha" kung-fu thing when insulting Wai Lin, it was cringe-worthy.

See, I feel the reverse. The hammy villian was the only thing in the film with any personality. I like the idea of a Bond Girl who's his equal in any or every way-skills, physically, emotionally, sexually-but it just seemed like she was there for the reasons you mentioned-no backstory and little narrative use. TND just seemed like a Jerry Bruckheimer action flick-there wasn't much of the wit or style which marked the most entertaining James Bond outings, or the grittiness which made the very finest. Just some thoughts. And the "cha-cha" thing was indeed beyond stupid.

[Leaping Larry Jojo]

See, I feel the reverse. The hammy villian was the only thing in the film with any personality. I like the idea of a Bond Girl who's his equal in any or every way-skills, physically, emotionally, sexually-but it just seemed like she was there for the reasons you mentioned-no backstory and little narrative use. TND just seemed like a Jerry Bruckheimer action flick-there wasn't much of the wit or style which marked the most entertaining James Bond outings, or the grittiness which made the very finest. Just some thoughts. And the "cha-cha" thing was indeed beyond stupid.

Well, the thing is, I felt none of the Brosnan Bonds were all that witty or stylish in the first place. Goldeneye is seen as GOD here, but the truth is, that film marked the series' turn from thriller to hard action. I've kinda accepted that modern day movies are heavier on flash than wit so I see them on their own terms now.

As for Wai Lin, let's face it--none of the women in ANY of the Bond movies are there to be anything more than "Bond women." Most of them have very little narrative use, even in the best Bond movies. Pussy Galore? Check. Honey Rider? Check. Jinx and Vespar, checkcheck. All contrived. Of the Bond movies, only Octopussy had the entire story structured around her, and you could make a case for the Diana Rigg character in the Lazenby outing. Not that I'm complaining, but let's face it, Bond ain't art, it's pulp. Ian Fleming did not write literature. Hell, his plots were barely coherent as they were. I think many critics forget that when they look too deeply at these movies.

Seen as hard action, I don't see what's so bad about TND. It's derivative, but you can't say it's boring. On the other hand, none of the Bond movies are really truly boring, so I guess that isn't saying much. Even Moonraker was entertaining in a so-bad-it's-funny way, you have to admit. :p

[Simpler Simon]

Seen as hard action, I don't see what's so bad about TND. It's derivative, but you can't say it's boring. On the other hand, none of the Bond movies are really truly boring, so I guess that isn't saying much. Even Moonraker was entertaining in a so-bad-it's-funny way, you have to admit. :p

Moonraker will always amaze me because the effects actually hold up. Up through the Dalton era the series could never convincingly pull off a bluescreen/rear projection effect, but with Moonraker you believe an army of space marines could duke it out like that. It's not star wars level, but it comes close.

Yeoh's the best of the "action" Bond girls because, well, she's an action star herself. So many Bond girls act like simply holding a gun will make them a CIA agent, whereas Yeoh and her stunt team beat each other up during that fight sequence. Too bad they couldn't have her cameo in Die Another Day.

Agree with the rest of the comments for TND. The movie plowed through its action setpieces without anything of substance in-between.

[Lord Dalek]

Goldeneye, for the sole reason that it does not suck.