Dbz

[ccffan01]

Im just curious how many of you like DBZ and how many of you despise it

[Naraht]

I think most fans problems with DBZ stem from the fact that CN overplays it so much.

[Sumi_Masen]

Originally posted by naraht
I think most fans problems with DBZ stem from the fact that CN overplays it so much.



I agree with naraht. I used to love DBZ, even when it was on the WB, I'd watch it every sunday. Anywayz, they keep on rerunning the same thing over and over, and DBZ has lost the effect it had on me. I'll watch it, but I won't enjoy it.

[Watagashi]

DBZ used to be one of my favorite animes, but now I watch it only when there's absolutely nothing else to do.

[Sir Gatts]

I like DBZ but I hate the re-runs of it.

[Kymori]

I'm ok with DBZ even tho it has a lower than average dub job (based on the scale of most dubs) but even if it had an excellent dub job, CN still as a habit for running it WAY too often. You'd think they realize by now that beating a dying horse again and again is just going to kill it....

[CC-sama]

Originally posted by naraht
I think most fans problems with DBZ stem from the fact that CN overplays it so much.

I agree with this as well. DBZ is tolerable, however running it in to the ground does not help its, or any show for that matter's, longevity. Run it through once. Replace it for awhile and give fans a chance to cool down and raise the level of demand for the product... then put it back on again. KFC does this with their Honey BBQ Chicken Wings. :p

[Evil Dr. Reef]

Mmmmmm.... BBQ Chicken.....
Anyway, I do enjoy DBZ, but I haven't watched a episode on Toonami since the last new episode aired back in November(?).
I'm impatiently waiting for "Emergence" to come out in April so I can finally see Goku go SSJ3 in a language OTHER than Japanese.

[OutlawStar]

I wish that they would start ALL over at the very begginning of DBZ. By the time they are up to where they are now, then its September, and the new episodes will be shown :D

[Jowy Blight]

I love DBZ, I own fansubs of the entire series and movies, the Manga too. I do argee, however, that DBZ is being run into the ground on Toonami.

[Majin_Megabyte]

Originally posted by OutlawStar
I wish that they would start ALL over at the very begginning of DBZ. By the time they are up to where they are now, then its September, and the new episodes will be shown :D

Yeah, I have to agree with you, They need to start the entire series over for the people that came and saw the series during The Android/Cell Saga,and Majin Buu.

[RogueMartian]

Originally posted by OutlawStar
I wish that they would start ALL over at the very begginning of DBZ. By the time they are up to where they are now, then its September, and the new episodes will be shown :D

They should run it from the beginning, I only started watching it during the cell saga. I like it and still watch it if i catch it on. But they shouldn't run it like they do. Showing the same 43 episodes over and over again is ridiculous.

[killercroc]

Originally posted by OutlawStar
I wish that they would start ALL over at the very begginning of DBZ. By the time they are up to where they are now, then its September, and the new episodes will be shown :D

Yeah, me too. But instead they've reran the beginning of the Buu Saga, what about five times? I've been watching for about a year and a half and have yet to see the Saya-Jin saga.

[Majin Vegeta]

I love DBZ! Five times outght to be the limit, though. Reruns are okay if you missed a few episodes, but keeping them going for six months is a little too much.

Oh well, the new episodes are coming in February! I can't wait!

[Kymori]

Does CN still own the rights the first 53 Saban eps? Cuz if not, when starting over we may only get to see from the beginning of the Ginyu Saga and up :/

[ccffan01]

Originally posted by Kymori
Does CN still own the rights the first 53 Saban eps? Cuz if not, when starting over me may only get to see from the beginning of the Ginyu Saga and up :/

yeah that would be cool if they did that

[Albright]

While I can't help but be grateful for DBZ for bringing in the numbers to keep Toonami as a whole on the air, I still think it's a shoddy, boring, highly overrated waste of cels.

I now present every single DBZ episode ever made:

Character A: Grrr... grrr... grrr... (a two-frame animation cycle of him gritting his teeth.)

Character B: Heh heh heh heh heh. (A two-frame animation cycle of him laughing.)

Character A: YOU HAVE YET TO SEE MY TRUE POWER!

(Character A and B punch and kick at each other in a series of 10(+/-)-frame animation cycles.)

Character A: HAAAAAAA! (He blasts a ball of energy from his hands at Character B. The energy ball creates a crater large enough to hide a university in, but when the four-frame animation cycle of smoke clears, Character B is standing in the middle of it, completely unscathed.) ...Huh? Uh... uh... (A two-frame animation cycle of his eyebrow twitching.)

Character B: Heh heh heh heh heh. (A two-frame animation cycle of him laughing.)

[Wakari]

It'd be a whole lot better if they didn't show re-runs all the time :)

[Eddy]

I like DBZ, I just don't really like watching repeats.

[Naraht]

Ok, here is my all inclusive rant on DBZ. You might want to get some Chips, or a soda...

Anyway, DBZ starts off good..we learn that yes, Goku is an Alien, and his race is out to get him. Groovy.

Anyway, Goku dies in the fight with his brother and trains with King Kai (ok, I'll interject here that I've only seen Funi's Dub, so my rants might be a bit off, as that's what I have to go on)
King Kai tells Goku that he's never faced anything like Vegita & Napa..again, I'm not having a problem here.

Anyway, skipping ahead, it's off to planet Namek...where we meet Frieza...this is where it all starts going down hill.

King Kai treats Frieza like he's the ultimate fighter...all that and a bag of chips. It takes Goku going Super Saiyan to take him out.

ok...Fine. Frieza's dead...

Back on Earth, oh look - Androids! Not only that, but even the weak androids are stonger than Frieza. Wow! Ok..King Kai obviously didn't know about the evil Androids...

Oh, and now here's cell..from the future...(Note, Time Travel storys are BAD BAD BAD!)

Well, Cell's defeated...and it gets worse..

Now King Kai changes his tune, with the Tournament for the Grand Kai...

Now we have Buu.....whom King Kai has Fought!!!!! Did he have amneisa when he told Goku that Frieza was the worst of the worst?

*sigh*

Now that's my big Plot rant.
Now, that's not my only problem...granted, I haven't seen all of Dragonball...but did people get a whole lot weaker between when Goku was a kid, and the latest tournament?

Ok, I realize that the big joke is how outrageously strong Goku & the others are compared to other people, and even I got a chuckle out of the whole thing....but honestly. In a recent ep of Dragonball, I saw people training that would have wiped the floor with Mr. Satan. *sigh*

I dunno...it's good for a chuckle, but it's not the bestest show on Toonami, that's for sure (this isn't counting problems with the dub, akward overplaying etc.)

[Majin Vegeta]

Correction- King Kai did not fight Majin Buu. There were five Supreme Kais who fought him, and four died. That left Shin as the only survivor.

King Kai is minor compared to the higher Kais. Remember how scared he was of Grand Kai? He told Goku to address him formally and bow to him. And the Grand Kai was considered to be the best fighter in the universe.

So the Supreme Kais must have been even more powerful than the Grand Kai! And the Z fighters were more powerful than the Supreme Kai! So, in short, they are the most powerful beings in the universe (except Buu), but they didn't know it.

[Kymori]

Uhhhh naraht, there's a reason for a lot of the confusion in DBZ and DB. Most of the time, Akira Toriyama was just thinking of things as they came and didn't really plan the whole 297 eps. out piece by piece. This means that King Kai(Kaio-sama) said Frieza was the strongest because there was no knowledge that there would be more to DBZ like Cell and Buu. However, wasn't that tiny little part where King Kai tells Goku this more of a filler rather than a translation from the Manga?

[SonGoku V3]

Originally posted by naraht
King Kai treats Frieza like he's the ultimate fighter...all that and a bag of chips. It takes Goku going Super Saiyan to take him out.

ok...Fine. Frieza's dead...

Back on Earth, oh look - Androids! Not only that, but even the weak androids are stonger than Frieza. Wow! Ok..King Kai obviously didn't know about the evil Androids...

Kai couldn't have known, the Androids were JUST created. Frieza on the other hand has been known for many years. King Kai couldn't have possibly known about the Androids unless he kept tabs on Dr. Gero, and he never knew Dr. Gero to begin with.


Oh, and now here's cell..from the future...(Note, Time Travel storys are BAD BAD BAD!)

Well, Cell's defeated...and it gets worse..

Now King Kai changes his tune, with the Tournament for the Grand Kai...

Now we have Buu.....whom King Kai has Fought!!!!! Did he have amneisa when he told Goku that Frieza was the worst of the worst?

Kai couldn't have known about Cell either, because like the Androids, Cell was just being created at the time of the Androids first appearance. As for the Cell who came from Trunks' timeline, one could argue that because Kai was so far from the earth, that he wasn't going to be able to sense such a low power level for four years. Kami kind of snesed Cell, but even Kami wasn't sure what it was. As for Buu, I could point out that because Buu was locked away, Kai would have never expected Buu to come back. Also, I could argue that Kai didn't even know Buu existed because he had nothing to do with Buu, the Supreme Kai did, and King Kai didn't even know the Supreme Kai at the time. So what could make us think he'd know about Buu?

Well, that's just my defense for that lovable blue catfish thing!:)

[Naraht]

Sorry...my bad..yeash....


>=p

[MeatWad]

Dragon Ball Z is so cool. Gee...no wonder everyone in school watches it....(Except The Goodie Goodies) Thats why I voted "yes"

[RogueMartian]

The goody goodies watch it too, they just don't admit it.

[ccffan01]

Originally posted by RogueMartian
The goody goodies watch it too, they just don't admit it.

Who are the goodie-goodies?

[Majin Vegeta]

My hypothesis is that they are the over protected childern who don't watch anything even 1% bad.

[Majin Vegeta]

For those who say that DBZ sucks altogether, I have this to say- there is a reason DBZ is overplayed. It is great! That's why more people watch it, and that's why it is played so much.

The very sight of a mighty warrior's jet black hair changing into a bright gold, his eyes turning green with rage, the wind raging around him, is simply too cool to pass up.

[ccffan01]

Originally posted by Majin Vegeta
For those who say that DBZ sucks altogether, I have this to say- there is a reason DBZ is overplayed. It is great! That's why more people watch it, and that's why it is played so much.

The very sight of a mighty warrior's jet black hair changing into a bright gold, his eyes turning green with rage, the wind raging around him, is simply too cool to pass up.

Yeah if you wanna talk a bout over played talk about Dexter or PPG which is shown like 5 times a day and they only have a fraction of DBZ's episodes which is only showed twice a day.

[Momijii]

Originally posted by ccffan01
Im just curious how many of you like DBZ and how many of you despise it

It's corny and all but its okay,I watch it sometimes.

[vegetaprinceofsayian]

[/QUOTE]I like DBZ but i hate re-runs of it.[QUOTE]

No, kidding they should show new episodes during the week and show the re-runs on saturday so if you missed the show you can catch it there. I totally agree with you though, re-runs suck.

[Majin Vegeta]

hey! you stole my ID!

[RogueMartian]

Originally posted by ccffan01


Yeah if you wanna talk a bout over played talk about Dexter or PPG which is shown like 5 times a day and they only have a fraction of DBZ's episodes which is only showed twice a day.

No kidding, and they repeat episodes over and over more than DBZ as well. And MajinVegeta is right, DBZ is cool. be careful vegetaprinceofsayian, i think you've upset MajinVegeta, j\k ;)