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ElBarto
11-19-2006, 08:50 PM
Time is not constant in the Simpsons I have a few reasons why.


Sideshow bob has a wife and a kid who can talk meanwhile the Simpsons don't age a bit. In the episode where he moves to Italy
Lisa has had 3 birthdays yet no one else ages (including lisa apperence wise)
Camp Krusty takes place over the summer yet they stay in the same grade
Multible time cards have been shown from mounths to even a year
Apu has kids who are about 1 or 2However no characters show any signs of aging

Any more weird time things in the simpsons?

Anthonynotes
11-20-2006, 12:24 AM
Time is not constant in the Simpsons I have a few reasons why.


Sideshow bob has a wife and a kid who can talk meanwhile the Simpsons don't age a bit. In the episode where he moves to Italy
Lisa has had 3 birthdays yet no one else ages (including lisa apperence wise)
Camp Krusty takes place over the summer yet they stay in the same grade
Multible time cards have been shown from mounths to even a year
Apu has kids who are about 1 or 2However no characters show any signs of aging

Any more weird time things in the simpsons?

Before others chime in with the overused "continuity/time doesn't matter in the Simpsons" line yet again (which isn't *completely* true---Apu still has all those kids and Maude is still dead...), I'll thrown in my two bits:

- Homer seemed to be allowed to creep up a bit in age (from 36 to 38 to 39), along with Marge (from 34 to 38) over the series' run, but none of the kids seem allowed to age... (shrug).

- The show seems to abide by comic book time----the characters live in an eternal non-aging (or "'Peanuts'-time"-aging) "present", but their pasts seem to be moving up behind them as the years go on; recall being slightly startled to see Homer as a young child at Woodstock in 1969 in the "Homer becomes a hippie" episode, when I recalled him being shown as a teenager in the early 90's episode "The Itchy and Scratchy Movie" episode's flashback to the same year (1969's moon landing). (A similar incidence in comics is the 1960's story "Superman's Mission For President Kennedy", but an 80's comic shows Super*boy* having met JFK instead...).

Zubby
11-20-2006, 01:49 AM
Remember too that The Simpsons is full of self-referential humor that makes fun of the time inconsistancies. Their way of dealing with this issue is to joke about it.
I've had a (not very serious) theory going for a while that the final Simpsons episode will involve them coming to the realization that the whole world is ageing while they stay the same.

Cobblepot1982
11-20-2006, 04:12 AM
I'd also like to throw in the episode, from like 5 years ago or so, where Homer & Marge talk about how they've been married for 10 whole years, because of how much they love each other or something. Um...correct me if I'm wrong but.....THEY GOT MARRIED AT SHOTGUN PETE'S IN 1980!!!!!!!!!!!!!- or at the very latest EARLY 1981.

Also, Krusty never seems to recognize the Simpsons when Bart asks to have his stuff signed- yet he had no problem bursting into the house of "his friends, the Simpsons", when he screwed up with his kid.

In another episode, Krusty showed how he had every problem in the world becoming a hit on TV- even getting screwed out of a gig for 20 years due to a problem on Rowan & Martin's Laugh-In...though in an earlier episode, he showed "Classic Krusty"...showing he's been on TV since at LEAST the early '60s( which at this point would make him VEEERY old, and I have no idea how Rabbi Krustovski is still alive..)

Yea- their continuity is all over the place. But no- it's not the continuity I want them to showcase in the final episode; I want them to do something else. As far as I'm concerned, there's only ONE way they can truly end the show:

the entire cast of the Simpsons comes out and waves, as the camera pans away...and suddenly it switches to the real world, where we see Matt Groening waking up- at the bottom of the screen, the caption reads "March 1986"- and we see him grab his phone from the night-table next to his bed, and he calls up his agent and says "hey, it's Matt. Listen...I've got it- I finally thought of a great animated short for that Tracy Ullman Show on Fox!". At that moment, the screen fades to black, and the credits role.

Whattaya think?

The Myst
11-20-2006, 04:39 AM
the entire cast of the Simpsons comes out and waves, as the camera pans away...and suddenly it switches to the real world, where we see Matt Groening waking up- at the bottom of the screen, the caption reads "March 1986"- and we see him grab his phone from the night-table next to his bed, and he calls up his agent and says "hey, it's Matt. Listen...I've got it- I finally thought of a great animated short for that Tracy Ullman Show on Fox!". At that moment, the screen fades to black, and the credits role.

Whattaya think?

My personal idea is for Homer to find out his favorite show is ending, followed by him running around looking for a way to save it. Finally, he meets the creators, Matt Groening and crew, naturally, who explain to him that all shows have to end eventually. Then Homer walks to the forefront and the camera pans out to show all the cast of The Simpsons standing behind him.

I like your idea. It would work well at the end of mine.

Unfortunately, the show will probably end on a really poor note.

Cobblepot1982
11-20-2006, 04:46 AM
Would you believe I actually came up with that idea several years ago? I believe I initially came up with it around '01 or '02- '03 at the ABSOLUTE latest.

Yeah, I agree- I think it will end on a sour note- on the plus side, could it go out any worse than Archie Bunker or Welcome Back Kotter did? Y'gotta ask yerself these things :)

No no wait...scratch that...it's already pretty much hit that low 3 seasons ago. It's gonna go out worse than Haydn Christensen's acting in Episode II :D

The Myst
11-20-2006, 05:07 AM
Yeah, I agree- I think it will end on a sour note- on the plus side, could it go out any worse than Archie Bunker
What sucks is that it never really had an ending. The last episode of All In The Family wasn't a proper ending and Archie Bunker's Place was cancelled so it didn't have a proper ending either. That always bothered me.

Cobblepot1982
11-20-2006, 05:17 AM
What sucks is that it never really had an ending. The last episode of All In The Family wasn't a proper ending and Archie Bunker's Place was cancelled so it didn't have a proper ending either. That always bothered me.

Neither did Kotter, nor did the Jeffersons( though technically the Series finale of Fresh Prince of Bell Air could have very well been CONSIDERED a finale for the Jeffersons as well), Charles in Charge, Happy Days, and the list goes on...

Neither did That '80s Show in fact...and truth be told, seeing as how That '70s Show ended, it SHOULDN'T HAVE, either.

The Myst
11-20-2006, 05:52 AM
I felt the ending to Happy Days was good enough. Fonzie gets a kid, Joanie and Chachi get married.

Cobblepot1982
11-20-2006, 07:15 PM
I felt the ending to Happy Days was good enough. Fonzie gets a kid, Joanie and Chachi get married.

Weird- cuz tv.com did NOT mention that as what happened in the final episode. Heh, well..um...there ya go, I guess :)

The Myst
11-20-2006, 07:34 PM
Weird- cuz tv.com did NOT mention that as what happened in the final episode. Heh, well..um...there ya go, I guess :)

Technically, there were 5 episodes aired after the series finale but this was because of bad airing order by ABC. The final two produced episodes were the series finale and were promoted as such but 5 episodes that had been previously unaired were aired after the finale.

ElBarto
11-20-2006, 08:25 PM
We have strayed off topic. The Simpsons doesn't need to end. The last episode should be one that leaves the series going so you can just watch re-runs. In my opinion thats why they don't age so you can watch any episode in any order and not be confused.

Mouse
11-21-2006, 04:41 PM
My bone with the simpsons is they appear to wear the same clothes. Take Bart, come rain or shine, snow or tornado season, he always wears shorts. Also Homer has still got three hairs and Grandpa is still alive and kicking. I think the only person who has died is Maude.

TheMecca
11-21-2006, 04:45 PM
It's a comedy show.

ElBarto
11-21-2006, 05:34 PM
My bone with the simpsons is they appear to wear the same clothes. Take Bart, come rain or shine, snow or tornado season, he always wears shorts. Also Homer has still got three hairs and Grandpa is still alive and kicking. I think the only person who has died is Maude.

Dr. Marvin monroe died (sorta)

Wussycat
11-21-2006, 07:39 PM
In one episode, Lisa was reminding Homer of all the things Sideshow Bob has done. Each thing was one year apart from the next, but the kids were the same age in all the flashbacks.

Cullen
11-21-2006, 08:12 PM
Have you noticed every time Bart and Lisa come back from summer vacation, they end up back in the same classes with Miss. Krabappel and Miss. Hoover? It's like those kids will never move up to the next grade.

CobraSpectre
11-21-2006, 10:04 PM
Bart: Cartoons don't have to make sense.
[Ozmodiar pops into being]
Ozmodiar: He's right, you know.

http://www.snpp.com/episodes/BABF22

DarthGonzo
11-21-2006, 10:47 PM
My bone with the simpsons is they appear to wear the same clothes. Take Bart, come rain or shine, snow or tornado season, he always wears shorts. Also Homer has still got three hairs and Grandpa is still alive and kicking. I think the only person who has died is Maude.

It's. A. Cartoon.

ElBarto
11-22-2006, 12:07 AM
It's. A. Cartoon.

Whats wrong with a cartoon being realistic?

TheMecca
11-22-2006, 11:50 AM
Whats wrong with a cartoon being realistic?
It's a comedy show.
;)