Drawn Together Might Be Near Cancellation...?

[BrickTamland]

Found this on Wikipedia.......

Two seasons have been completed to date. Season 3 began airing on Thursday, October 5 (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/October_5), 2006 (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2006). It is not currently known if the show will be picked up for a fourth season. In web site commentary for the episode "Mexican't Buy Me Love (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mexican%27t_Buy_Me_Love)", the creators mention that Comedy Central (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Comedy_Central) has yet to contact them about a renewal and express doubts as to the show's future; however, at the same time they indicate that ratings have been good, and that given the erratic nature of programming seasons on cable television, a long delay in such a decision being made is still quite possible.

[dth1971]

Maybe there should be a Season 3 finale or final episode where all the Drawn Together stars are evicted for good from the house and move back to their own cartoon homes.

[BrickTamland]

Maybe there should be a Season 3 finale or final episode where all the Drawn Together stars are evicted for good from the house and move back to their own cartoon homes.

I watched the commentary on Motherload and didn't hear anything of the kind...so maybe it's just some jerkass using wikipedia

[Merrick Bill]

Matt Silverstein, one of the creators of Drawn Together, asked me to pass this message on to you guys:

"Dave and I sat down with Doug Herzog on Friday to discuss the future of the series. There are many factors that go into the decision to pick up a series and ratings are just one small part of the puzzle. We are hopeful there will be a season 4 but, sadly, we're getting the feeling this is probably the end of the road for Drawn Together -- on Comedy Central anyway. We love our fans and will let them know as soon as we know."

So there you have it. We'll keep you posted.

Bill

[sdp]

that sucks, but if it did it have three solid seasons with each one getting better (so far from season 3 though S2 is still my fav.).

hopefully we get a nice finale, anyways i guess i rather see it cancelled than it go on forever since it would eventually grow stale. Hopefully we can get a fourth season though.

[Moto Pete]

its kinda run it's course maybe if we had diffrent characters

[RD!]

This is awful news.

[Tay the Cat]

This is excellent news.

[BrickTamland]

Matt Silverstein, one of the creators of Drawn Together, asked me to pass this message on to you guys:

"Dave and I sat down with Doug Herzog on Friday to discuss the future of the series. There are many factors that go into the decision to pick up a series and ratings are just one small part of the puzzle. We are hopeful there will be a season 4 but, sadly, we're getting the feeling this is probably the end of the road for Drawn Together -- on Comedy Central anyway. We love our fans and will let them know as soon as we know."

So there you have it. We'll keep you posted.

Bill




What other factors are preventing it

[BrickTamland]

Matt Silverstein, one of the creators of Drawn Together, asked me to pass this message on to you guys:

"Dave and I sat down with Doug Herzog on Friday to discuss the future of the series. There are many factors that go into the decision to pick up a series and ratings are just one small part of the puzzle. We are hopeful there will be a season 4 but, sadly, we're getting the feeling this is probably the end of the road for Drawn Together -- on Comedy Central anyway. We love our fans and will let them know as soon as we know."

So there you have it. We'll keep you posted.

Bill



What factors besides ratings are the issue here? If the ratings are good, what's the problem

[.Automatisch]

I was just starting to like it last season, too :/... Hopefully someone else picks it up.

[Zubby]

I've always had the opinion that Drawn Together has consistantly squandered what semed like an unbeatable premise. That's even more obvious in the current season. They tried and failed. Time to let it die.
I was thinking something like this might be in the works when I saw that it was being moved to Weds. nights between South Park and Daily Show. If a show can't be sucessful in that time slo, it just can't be successful.

[Master Moron]

What factors besides ratings are the issue here? If the ratings are good, what's the problem

Production costs, merchandising issues, content issues, etc.

[Missnickers]

That's really depressing. :( I still think Drawn Together one of the best & funniest shows on TV now - I look forward to it every week. Just the thought that it won't be back for more seasons really upsets me. There are so many stories left to be told about these characters, so much potential for a great future for the show... *sigh*

Anyway, good luck to everyone involved with the show. I will be keeping my fingers crossed for a fourth season on Comedy Central - or at the very least, for the show to get picked up by a different network.

[Chimeraz]

That's lame. I really like the show. It would good to see another season. I hope the final is good if it does end.

[Tay the Cat]

I will be keeping my fingers crossed for a fourth season on Comedy Central - or at the very least, for the show to get picked up by a different network.

There's not another network stupid enough to take a show this offensive.

[Tobias]

There's always Adult Swim (The best bet for DT), but that would mean taking a dip in production value and less episodes per season.

MTV2 could pick it up, but then DT would only get 8 episode seasons and get little to no publicity.

Then there's G4 and Spike TV, but I don't see them giving DT too much to survive on either. I think if DT is cancelled on Comedy Central, it'd be better to just give the show a proper series finale and call it quits.

[ShadowGUN]

There's not another network stupid enough to take a show this offensive.

Adult Swim might pick it up. They do have their share of offensive TV shows.

[tb4000]

Adult Swim won't do it. Remember that bumper they had claiming they didn't like the show? Now if they renege on that, their faithful following would call them hypocrites. Unless it was just playful ribbing.

[EinBebop]

Adult Swim won't do it. Remember that bumper they had claiming they didn't like the show? Now if they renege on that, their faithful following would call them hypocrites. Unless it was just playful ribbing.Even if it wasn't, they just run a bumper calling themselves hypocrites, and everybody laughs.

[dth1971]

How about the gay related cable channel Logo acquiring "Drawn Together"?

[Tay the Cat]

How about the gay related cable channel Logo acquiring "Drawn Together"?
Uhh... no.

I'm no DT fan, but not even DT deserves that kind of punishment.

[Ykwia]

Let's Party!!!

*party all night*

[Rayluxuryacht]

I watched the commentary on Motherload and didn't hear anything of the kind...so maybe it's just some jerkass using wikipedia

I was the one who added that info and I resent being called a jerkass. In the commentary for "Mexican't Buy Me Love", they discuss the issue of cancellation. I added that info in the hopes of stirring up support for the show.

[Rayluxuryacht]

but, sadly, we're getting the feeling this is probably the end of the road for Drawn Together -- on Comedy Central anyway.

So does this mean you ARE exploring the possibility of continuing on another network? I realize this would almost certainly mean a reduction in production values and a toning down of content, but I would be completely happy to accept that to keep the show going.

[BrickTamland]

I was the one who added that info and I resent being called a jerkass. In the commentary for "Mexican't Buy Me Love", they discuss the issue of cancellation. I added that info in the hopes of stirring up support for the show.


I'm sorry my bad.

But seriously, I never even have seen Drawn Together merchandise on shelves...so I don't see how that can affect the show's future, and South Park gets more controversy than DT and they're still on the air. I don't see why this show is getting cut...

[BrickTamland]

Adult Swim won't do it. Remember that bumper they had claiming they didn't like the show? Now if they renege on that, their faithful following would call them hypocrites. Unless it was just playful ribbing.


If Adult Swim can air Smoking Gun TV and Pee Wee's Playhouse. I am sure Drawn Together is more than just welcome there

[Rayluxuryacht]

If Adult Swim can air Smoking Gun TV and Pee Wee's Playhouse. I am sure Drawn Together is more than just welcome there

If they thought Drawn Together would be successful for them, Adult Swim would air it, bumper or not.

[Missnickers]

I realize this would almost certainly mean a reduction in production values and a toning down of content, but I would be completely happy to accept that to keep the show going.

Agreed, I would gladly accept a toning down of content, if it means the show would continue to air. It's the characters themselves that I love, and their adventures together, not necessarily the over-the-top-raunchy humor (that's just an added bonus). The show can still be plenty clever and funny without the extreme stuff. Of course, this is worst case scenario - hopefully CC will realize what a great show they have here and not let it go.

[Rayluxuryacht]

Agreed, I would gladly accept a toning down of content, if it means the show would continue to air. It's the characters themselves that I love, and their adventures together, not necessarily the over-the-top-raunchy humor (that's just an added bonus). The show can still be plenty clever and funny without the extreme stuff.

That's an EXCELLENT way to put it. I watch this show because of the delightful way the characters interact with each other, not because it stretches boundaries. In fact, sometimes I feel that the grossness actually gets in the way of the humor rather than enhances it. But either way, we want this show to continue whatever it takes. There are some amazingly talented and creative people in charge of it, and I'm sure they'll produce something extremely entertaining no matter what guidelines they're given.

[BrickTamland]

Agreed, I would gladly accept a toning down of content, if it means the show would continue to air. It's the characters themselves that I love, and their adventures together, not necessarily the over-the-top-raunchy humor (that's just an added bonus). The show can still be plenty clever and funny without the extreme stuff. Of course, this is worst case scenario - hopefully CC will realize what a great show they have here and not let it go.


What are the reasons they don't want to pick it up

[Rayluxuryacht]

What are the reasons they don't want to pick it up

We haven't been told. I'm sure Bill knows but he may not be at liberty to post it here.

[BrickTamland]

We haven't been told. I'm sure Bill knows but he may not be at liberty to post it here.

I don't want to sound naive. But with networks these days. All they care about is ratings and if it's getting great ratings, why wouldn't they renew it...it just sounds really bizarre..almost as if there's something going on we aren't being told

[Missnickers]

I don't want to sound naive. But with networks these days. All they care about is ratings and if it's getting great ratings, why wouldn't they renew it...it just sounds really bizarre..almost as if there's something going on we aren't being told
I would think ratings have to do with a lot of it, but there's also production costs to think about. I don't know how expensive DT is to produce, but I would wager it's a lot more costly than, say, South Park. The animation is much more sophisticated and has to be sent out (but it looks GORGEOUS). Then there's the actors & writing staff to pay, production crew, plus miscellaneous other costs for copyright use, etc. South Park's advantage in production costs are that Trey & Matt doing a bulk of the writing & acting themselves and the animation is done in house.

There might be more to it than that, too, I don't know. *shrug* It's baffling to me also, since the show seems to be doing so well. Why cancel this show, which as already proven to be a success, for the possibility of another Freak Show? Ughh. Honestly, South Park can't go on forever (they're on their 10th season now), and Comedy Central is going to need another show to take its place. I think with the right attention at this stage, Drawn Together stands the best chance at being that show.

[Rayluxuryacht]

I would think ratings have to do with a lot of it, but there's also production costs to think about. I don't know how expensive DT is to produce, but I would wager it's a lot more costly than, say, South Park. The animation is much more sophisticated and has to be sent out (but it looks GORGEOUS).

I hate to say it, given that I love the way the show looks, but perhaps CC would be willing to renew the show with a drastically reduced animation budget. I hate cut-rate animation as much as anyone, but at the end of the day, it's the writing that matters. And even with a reduced budget, surely they could produce something nicer to look at than Freak Show.

[BrickTamland]

I hate to say it, given that I love the way the show looks, but perhaps CC would be willing to renew the show with a drastically reduced animation budget. I hate cut-rate animation as much as anyone, but at the end of the day, it's the writing that matters. And even with a reduced budget, surely they could produce something nicer to look at than Freak Show.

Family Guy's budget was cut 10% when it was revived.

You can't tell the difference.

[Missnickers]

And even with a reduced budget, surely they could produce something nicer to look at than Freak Show.
You're setting the bar pretty low there. FS's animation is *atrocious*. A retarded monkey with a Sharpie could draw something more visually pleasing. I'm sure with even with small budget cuts, DT would still look 10 times better. Admittedly, the former animation student in me *adores* Drawn Together's look, but you're right, in the end, it's the writing that counts most.

[Rayluxuryacht]

You're setting the bar pretty low there. FS's animation is *atrocious*. A retarded monkey with a Sharpie could draw something more visually pleasing. I'm sure with even with small budget cuts, DT would still look 10 times better. Admittedly, the former animation student in me *adores* Drawn Together's look, but you're right, in the end, it's the writing that counts most.

I may be biased toward the writing end, given that I'm a writer myself. (Though I do share your love for the way Drawn Together looks). As ugly as it is, I'd still watch Freak Show if it were funny and/or intelligently written, but it's neither.

[BrickTamland]

I may be biased toward the writing end, given that I'm a writer myself. (Though I do share your love for the way Drawn Together looks). As ugly as it is, I'd still watch Freak Show if it were funny and/or intelligently written, but it's neither.

Drawn Together must be saved. We must save it

[DeadJohNNyAngel]

I like this show quite a bit myself, and I agree it would be a shame if it were cancelled, hopefully this won't be the case but if it is I guess the next step is to start a petition to save it. :shrug:

I do hope things get worked out so it can continue airing even if it means a budget reduction because it really is a very great show.

[Gokou Ruri]

Ratings are like theater grossing, the amount they get doesn't matter so much as the amount made compared to the cost of production. Since DT easily costs more money to make than South Park, it would need higher ratings to justify such a production cost. Meanwhile, a cheap show done in Flash could get by with mediocre ratings as long as they turn a profit. Clerks 2 was much more of a success than Superman Returns, for example, even though Superman made 200 million and Clerks II only made 25 million. (Superman had a 270 million budget while Clerks II had a 5 million budget.. so Clerks II made 5x the amount it took to make it.. while Superman lost money)

[BrickTamland]

Ratings are like theater grossing, the amount they get doesn't matter so much as the amount made compared to the cost of production. Since DT easily costs more money to make than South Park, it would need higher ratings to justify such a production cost. Meanwhile, a cheap show done in Flash could get by with mediocre ratings as long as they turn a profit. Clerks 2 was much more of a success than Superman Returns, for example, even though Superman made 200 million and Clerks II only made 25 million. (Superman had a 270 million budget while Clerks II had a 5 million budget.. so Clerks II made 5x the amount it took to make it.. while Superman lost money)


But the ratings are generally the same as they have been the past two seasons

[The Myst]

Honestly, South Park can't go on forever (they're on their 10th season now), and Comedy Central is going to need another show to take its place. I think with the right attention at this stage, Drawn Together stands the best chance at being that show.

Actually, South Park is renewed to season 12 and may even exceed that. There's no need to worry about replacing it right now.


But the ratings are generally the same as they have been the past two seasons

The networks will give them a chance to build but if they don't build or if they start to lose ratings at all, they will be cancelled.

[R. Escobar]

I don't understand why CC would cancel their second best cartoon, and seeing as how Drawn Together is probably the best thing besides South Park the station will be able to come up with, the cancellation would be a huge mistake on their part.

However, I also hear their planning on bringing back Futurama, and maybe they plan to focus on that and SP, instead of DT

[BrickTamland]

I don't understand why CC would cancel their second best cartoon, and seeing as how Drawn Together is probably the best thing besides South Park the station will be able to come up with, the cancellation would be a huge mistake on their part.

However, I also hear their planning on bringing back Futurama, and maybe they plan to focus on that and SP, instead of DT


But can you imagine the powerhouse line up they would have with SP, DT, and Futurama, it could rival Adult Swim

[R. Escobar]

But can you imagine the powerhouse line up they would have with SP, DT, and Futurama, it could rival Adult Swim

Yeah man, that's exactly what I'm saying, Comedy Central should try to build up a GOOD cartoon lineup, instead of just relying on SP.

[Missnickers]

Originally Posted by BrickTamland
But can you imagine the powerhouse line up they would have with SP, DT, and Futurama, it could rival Adult Swim
Yeah man, that's exactly what I'm saying, Comedy Central should try to build up a GOOD cartoon lineup, instead of just relying on SP.

Agreed 100%. I don't know if it would do any good, but perhaps we should all email Comedy Central and tell them what we think?

[BrickTamland]

Agreed 100%. I don't know if it would do any good, but perhaps we should all email Comedy Central and tell them what we think?

I say go for it

[RD!]

Let's mail them diapers and inside those diapers will be our letters recommending to fill those diapers with more hilarious jokes.

[BrickTamland]

Let's mail them diapers and inside those diapers will be our letters recommending to fill those diapers with more hilarious jokes.

That is actually a fantastic idea

[Scythemantis]

There's not another network stupid enough to take a show this offensive.

You know the difference between fair criticism and childish, inflammatory name-calling, right? Because all of your posts in this thread fall squarely into the latter category. If you have nothing smart to say about why you hate a show, why even ENTER a thread about it?

And what's this "offensive" you speak of? Nothing in the world is too serious to joke about. Nothing. Ever. Period.

[Doop]

Really disappointing.

Will they air the second half of season three, at least? :(

[Finfreeze]

Honestly, I thought season 1 was the worst. Nothing on the show was really funny back then. Then I decided to tune in to the season 2 premiere to give the show another chance, and I was amazed by the dramatic improvement. I'm not sure what it was exactly that change, though. Maybe it was a little faster and less forced-feeling?

I'm gonna be sad if this show gets canceled, but at the same time it always felt like is was just one step ahead of the reaper. The reason being that it was an animated show intended for adults that wasn't on Fox or Adult Swim and wasn't South Park. Still, it was one of my favorite shows. Maybe it's because I'm not as phased by gross stuff as others, I dunno (I wasn't creeped or grossed out by the Garrison sex scene in Go God Go, if you really wanted to know).

[Tay the Cat]

You know the difference between fair criticism and childish, inflammatory name-calling, right? Because all of your posts in this thread fall squarely into the latter category. If you have nothing smart to say about why you hate a show, why even ENTER a thread about it?

And what's this "offensive" you speak of? Nothing in the world is too serious to joke about. Nothing. Ever. Period.
I'm being more than fair, actually. I'm actually holding back while on Toon Zone.

[BrickTamland]

Honestly, I thought season 1 was the worst. Nothing on the show was really funny back then. Then I decided to tune in to the season 2 premiere to give the show another chance, and I was amazed by the dramatic improvement. I'm not sure what it was exactly that change, though. Maybe it was a little faster and less forced-feeling?

I'm gonna be sad if this show gets canceled, but at the same time it always felt like is was just one step ahead of the reaper. The reason being that it was an animated show intended for adults that wasn't on Fox or Adult Swim and wasn't South Park. Still, it was one of my favorite shows. Maybe it's because I'm not as phased by gross stuff as others, I dunno (I wasn't creeped or grossed out by the Garrison sex scene in Go God Go, if you really wanted to know).


That's the thing. The show gets great ratings for the network. I don't see the reason they would just get up and cancel it

[Scythemantis]

I'm being more than fair, actually. I'm actually holding back while on Toon Zone.

By fair I mean a balanced, intelligent, objective opinion. Not an "I hate it and thus there's nothing good about it and noone else has any reason to enjoy it" opinion.

[Marvin Tikvah]

Really disappointing.

Will they air the second half of season three, at least? :(

Why wouldn't they? Comedy Central always seems to have the decency of finishing a show's run before canceling it.

Hopefully, CC realizes canceling Drawn Together would be a terrible mistake. Maybe that's the reason they had that sleuthful advertising of DT merchandise at Hot Topic last night.

[Rayluxuryacht]

Really disappointing.

Will they air the second half of season three, at least? :(

Yes. Even if CC decides to cancel the show, they'll still air the remaining produced episodes, if for no other reason than to try to earn back their financial investment.

[BrickTamland]

Yes. Even if CC decides to cancel the show, they'll still air the remaining produced episodes, if for no other reason than to try to earn back their financial investment.

Hopefully the DVD's for the upcoming Season 2 sell well

[Rayluxuryacht]

Hopefully the DVD's for the upcoming Season 2 sell well

A lot of the reason Family Guy was brought back was because the DVD's sold so well. It would definitely encourage CC to keep the show around if the same thing happened with DT. Obviously we can't buy the Season 2 DVD yet, but if there's anyone you know who likes Drawn Together at all, buy them the Season 1 DVD for Christmas!

[BrickTamland]

A lot of the reason Family Guy was brought back was because the DVD's sold so well. It would definitely encourage CC to keep the show around if the same thing happened with DT. Obviously we can't buy the Season 2 DVD yet, but if there's anyone you know who likes Drawn Together at all, buy them the Season 1 DVD for Christmas!


I think Comedy Central would probably more closely monitor sales for Season 2 than Season 1

[carbunkel@earth]

I was the one who added that info and I resent being called a jerkass. In the commentary for "Mexican't Buy Me Love", they discuss the issue of cancellation. I added that info in the hopes of stirring up support for the show.

Do you write all the Wikipedia entries? They're amazingly thorough in their synopses and inside info. I was starting to think one of the writers did them. If you compare them to the Futurama rundowns, they're way more complex.

Cudos to you, or whoever is doing them.

[carbunkel@earth]

I don't understand why CC would cancel their second best cartoon

Correction- Their second highest rated show.

1) South Park
2) Drawn Together
3) The Daily Show
4) etc.

They defy logic.

[Rayluxuryacht]

Do you write all the Wikipedia entries? They're amazingly thorough in their synopses and inside info. I was starting to think one of the writers did them. If you compare them to the Futurama rundowns, they're way more complex.

Cudos to you, or whoever is doing them.

I do actually do a great deal of the writing on the Wikipedia pages. Thanks for noticing! The wiki pages are just one of the many Drawn Together-related projects I work on. I'm not actually a writer for the show (not yet, at least), but I do the best I can as far as pulling information from the sources at my disposal. And a lot of it's just paying really close attention.

[Mr. Manager]

To be honest, I don't really think it would fit on another network. I'm highly doubtful that it'll be able to survive beyond Condey Central cancellation.

[BrickTamland]

To be honest, I don't really think it would fit on another network. I'm highly doubtful that it'll be able to survive beyond Condey Central cancellation.


The only other option I see is Adult Swim or MTV2

[R. Escobar]

The only other option I see is Adult Swim or MTV2

Adult Swim has already stated in a recent bump that they dislike it, and cartoons on MTV2 generally do horrible, and don't last long

Hopefully, CC comes to their senses, or else we can pretty much kiss this one goodbye

[Rayluxuryacht]

Adult Swim has already stated in a recent bump that they dislike it

That doesn't matter. What matters is whether a network feels a particular show will be profitable for them. If they feel Drawn Together will be successful for them, Adult Swim will pick it up and pretend that bump never happened.

Did it ever occur to anyone that maybe Adult Swim's bashing of the show had to do with the fact it aired on a rival network?

[R. Escobar]

Did it ever occur to anyone that maybe Adult Swim's bashing of the show had to do with the fact it aired on a rival network?

Well, that would make sense, but they never went out of their way to show diss any other show on CC (and they have plenty worth dissing), so it seems like they did it to DT directly

[BrickTamland]

Well, that would make sense, but they never went out of their way to show diss any other show on CC (and they have plenty worth dissing), so it seems like they did it to DT directly


They did air Saved by The Bell Pee Wee and Smoking Gun TV, of course they'll air Drawn Together

[The Myst]

They did air Saved by The Bell Pee Wee and Smoking Gun TV, of course they'll air Drawn Together

Saved By The Bell was a joke and the other two were shows they LIKED.

[BrickTamland]

Saved By The Bell was a joke and the other two were shows they LIKED.

Adult Swim would pick DT up if they saw possible profit in it. It's not whether they care for it or not, it's all bout the green

[The Myst]

AS doesn't care about money or they wouldn't continue funding low performers like Venture Brothers and they wouldn't pick up animes that they know have no potential for success like Paranoia Agent.

[BrickTamland]

AS doesn't care about money or they wouldn't continue funding low performers like Venture Brothers and they wouldn't pick up animes that they know have no potential for success like Paranoia Agent.


Um...You'd be surprised....I am quite sure AS cares a hell a lot about money because without they wouldn't be on the air

[The Myst]

Um...You'd be surprised....I am quite sure AS cares a hell a lot about money because without they wouldn't be on the air

Like I said, if they cared about money so much, they wouldn't pick up shows that have no chance of success. They make plenty of money with what they do air, they can stand to let their personal feelings on shows get in the way.

Drawn Together will never air on Adult Swim.

[Rayluxuryacht]

Like I said, if they cared about money so much, they wouldn't pick up shows that have no chance of success. They make plenty of money with what they do air, they can stand to let their personal feelings on shows get in the way.

Drawn Together will never air on Adult Swim.

Personal feelings are NEVER a factor in programming decisions. I hate to sound so cynical, but it's all about the money. I'd be willing to bet that those shows that have "no chance of success" are doing better than you think or else Adult Swim wouldn't keep them around. I'm not saying Adult Swim WILL air Drawn Together, but they definitely would not keep it off the network just because they don't like it.

[The Myst]

Personal feelings are NEVER a factor in programming decisions. I hate to sound so cynical, but it's all about the money. I'd be willing to bet that those shows that have "no chance of success" are doing better than you think or else Adult Swim wouldn't keep them around. I'm not saying Adult Swim WILL air Drawn Together, but they definitely would not keep it off the network just because they don't like it.

No. One good example is Paranoia Agent. People said it had no chance of being a success, AS aired it, it was a resounding failure, and AS admitted they knew it would be and only aired because they liked it so much. The show currently airs in reruns and still gets awful ratings.

Saturday's anime gets terrible ratings usually but AS always keeps that an anime night, with only a few, if any, comedy shows. They could benefit more from making it an all comedy night but they like the anime so they air it.

The Venture Brothers was one of the lowest rated shows on the network and was picked up at literally the last minute just because AS was so fond of it. It's still only mildly successful but they're investing in another 26 episodes.

AS is a network run by fanboys. They aren't business men. The majority of their decisions are based on what they like and don't like. They air whatever they feel like airing. And if that bump is any indication, they don't feel like airing Drawn Together and I don't think potential drawing power is going to sway them all that much.

[BrickTamland]

No. One good example is Paranoia Agent. People said it had no chance of being a success, AS aired it, it was a resounding failure, and AS admitted they knew it would be and only aired because they liked it so much. The show currently airs in reruns and still gets awful ratings.

Saturday's anime gets terrible ratings usually but AS always keeps that an anime night, with only a few, if any, comedy shows. They could benefit more from making it an all comedy night but they like the anime so they air it.

The Venture Brothers was one of the lowest rated shows on the network and was picked up at literally the last minute just because AS was so fond of it. It's still only mildly successful but they're investing in another 26 episodes.

AS is a network run by fanboys. They aren't business men. The majority of their decisions are based on what they like and don't like. They air whatever they feel like airing. And if that bump is any indication, they don't feel like airing Drawn Together and I don't think potential drawing power is going to sway them all that much.


AS is a business, run by fanboys or not, it still is any other business

[BrickTamland]

It boggles my mind that Drawn Together even got a second season.


It got great ratings. It's the highest rated show on CC besides South Park. What's not to believe

[David Lucas]

A business, is still a business, but that doesn't mean that businesses don't make bad financial decisions based on their own personal feelings. If a company didn't go public, and the CEO was such a fan boy of Final Fantasy deep down, that he used his companies resources to create "Final Fantasy: The Broadway Show" that was a blundering failure, but he still had enough money from the good decisions he's made, you could accurately describe Adult Swim.

These guys make enough money off of their 11 - 12 line up. I mean, seriously, how many times can people sit through the SAME episodes of Futurama and Family Guy after, what? 4, 5 years?

Apparently, an awful lot.

With the income they make off of those, Boondocks, and their highly rated shows, they can basically do whatever the hell they damn well please.

Like Myst said, Venture, AS anime, Paranoia Agent, there's just so much they have on the air that NOONE watches, but they like it.

So simply saying "a business run by fanboys is still a business" doesn't really further the argument from your side.

Drawn Together will not air on Adult Swim, to be honest, I couldn't see it airing on there anyways. I'd rather Venture Bros and Boondocks REALLY pick up steam next season, and AS start investing in more quality written shows.

Not that I don't LOVE Drawn Together, just it's nice to actually have a story being told with the medium of animation every now and then.

[BrickTamland]

A business, is still a business, but that doesn't mean that businesses don't make bad financial decisions based on their own personal feelings. If a company didn't go public, and the CEO was such a fan boy of Final Fantasy deep down, that he used his companies resources to create "Final Fantasy: The Broadway Show" that was a blundering failure, but he still had enough money from the good decisions he's made, you could accurately describe Adult Swim.

These guys make enough money off of their 11 - 12 line up. I mean, seriously, how many times can people sit through the SAME episodes of Futurama and Family Guy after, what? 4, 5 years?

Apparently, an awful lot.

With the income they make off of those, Boondocks, and their highly rated shows, they can basically do whatever the hell they damn well please.

Like Myst said, Venture, AS anime, Paranoia Agent, there's just so much they have on the air that NOONE watches, but they like it.

So simply saying "a business run by fanboys is still a business" doesn't really further the argument from your side.

Drawn Together will not air on Adult Swim, to be honest, I couldn't see it airing on there anyways. I'd rather Venture Bros and Boondocks REALLY pick up steam next season, and AS start investing in more quality written shows.

Not that I don't LOVE Drawn Together, just it's nice to actually have a story being told with the medium of animation every now and then.


What about Showtime or HBO

[Missnickers]

Like Myst said, Venture, AS anime, Paranoia Agent, there's just so much they have on the air that NOONE watches, but they like it.

So simply saying "a business run by fanboys is still a business" doesn't really further the argument from your side.
That is very true, saying "a business run by fanboys is still a business" doesn't really further the argument - but neither does saying that just because Adult Swim chooses to produce shows that get poor ratings, that means they WON'T pick up a show that DOES get good ratings. It doesn't logically follow that AS would pass up on a show that would make them money, just because they happen to air SOME shows that do poorly. The bottom line is that they need & want money, and if a show presents an opportunity for $$$, they less likely to pass it up. So far no one has given ANY examples of a show with good ratings that AS has passed up

(And let's not even mention the fact that we don't even KNOW exactly how the executives feel about Drawn Together - that bumper was a basically cheap jab at a rival network. DT is a much easier target than SP.)

I'm certainly NOT saying Adult Swim will DEFINITELY pick up DT if it's cancelled - I'm just saying the arguments against it here are very flawed. I just hope CC will realize what a great show they have and this won't even be an issue.

Frankly, I'm surprised no one has mentioned the show moving to FOX. They certainly have a bigger budget for the animation style. Granted, it would have to be slightly toned down to the level of Family Guy or American Dad.... but in the long run, I don't think that would hurt the show at all (and the censors let FG & AD get away with a lot of stuff these days..).

[Rayluxuryacht]

And let's not even mention the fact that we don't even KNOW exactly how the executives feel about Drawn Together - that bumper was a basically cheap jab at a rival network. DT is a much easier target than SP.

My sentiments exactly. Adult Swim needed a target, and DT's well-known but not universally liked, which makes them the perfect whipping boy. And even if we concede that Adult Swim's promotional department hates the show, that doesn't necessarily mean that the programming executives do too. And for all we know, the person whose idea that bumper was may not even work there anymore.


Frankly, I'm surprised no one has mentioned the show moving to FOX. They certainly have a bigger budget for the animation style. Granted, it would have to be slightly toned down to the level of Family Guy or American Dad.... but in the long run, I don't think that would hurt the show at all (and the censors let FG & AD get away with a lot of stuff these days..).

As you mention, they would certainly have to tone down the content, but if they do that, it would make a GREAT complement to that Sunday animation lineup. And I don't think it would hurt the show at all; it might even force them to become more clever.

[Cobblepot1982]

Honestly, I thought season 1 was the worst. Nothing on the show was really funny back then. Then I decided to tune in to the season 2 premiere to give the show another chance, and I was amazed by the dramatic improvement. I'm not sure what it was exactly that change, though. Maybe it was a little faster and less forced-feeling?

I'm gonna be sad if this show gets canceled, but at the same time it always felt like is was just one step ahead of the reaper. The reason being that it was an animated show intended for adults that wasn't on Fox or Adult Swim and wasn't South Park. Still, it was one of my favorite shows. Maybe it's because I'm not as phased by gross stuff as others, I dunno (I wasn't creeped or grossed out by the Garrison sex scene in Go God Go, if you really wanted to know).

I'll be honest- I thought the show was atrocious...until my friend showed me the UNCENSORED version of it. I LOVED it. One thing I realized about Drawn Together- it's sorta like Tales from the Crypt or Dream On- or even the Sopranos or Sex in the City= without the nudity and profanity, it just isn't funny; it just gets overloaded with cheezy fart jokes, and pointless slapstick comedy that I expect out of cut-rate Canadian sketch comedy shows, like Kids in the Hall or You Can't Do That On Television.

Unfortunately, Comedy Central won't air it uncensored, so my recommendation is this: try to get HBO to pick it up. It would have a flourishing life there. Otherwise, it's just a pathetic excuse at being an animated sitcom.

[BrickTamland]

I'll be honest- I thought the show was atrocious...until my friend showed me the UNCENSORED version of it. I LOVED it. One thing I realized about Drawn Together- it's sorta like Tales from the Crypt or Dream On- or even the Sopranos or Sex in the City= without the nudity and profanity, it just isn't funny; it just gets overloaded with cheezy fart jokes, and pointless slapstick comedy that I expect out of cut-rate Canadian sketch comedy shows, like Kids in the Hall or You Can't Do That On Television.

Unfortunately, Comedy Central won't air it uncensored, so my recommendation is this: try to get HBO to pick it up. It would have a flourishing life there. Otherwise, it's just a pathetic excuse at being an animated sitcom.



Just hearing Captain Hero say in the last episode "Why don't you shut the bleep up" had me rolling in stitches

[R. Escobar]

Seriously though, to be 100% honest, I don't think CC will cancel this show, the stupidty of that move is ridiculously unimaginable and they just won't do it.

[BrickTamland]

Seriously though, to be 100% honest, I don't think CC will cancel this show, the stupidty of that move is ridiculously unimaginable and they just won't do it.


It would be an incredibly unintelligent move on their part.

[Rayluxuryacht]

Seriously though, to be 100% honest, I don't think CC will cancel this show, the stupidty of that move is ridiculously unimaginable and they just won't do it.

Deep down I don't feel they will either. Things are just going too well at the moment. But all the same, it might be a good idea to go to CC's website and send them some words of encouragement.

[Lutochris]

It got great ratings. It's the highest rated show on CC besides South Park. What's not to believe
I find it hard to believe it does better than Daily Show and Colbert. If it does, well that makes me a sad panda.

[Ghostbuster Man]

This is excellent news.

Amen. I can't stand that show anymore!