Biggest Complaint

[metaphysician]

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[Kal-el]

I have to say it's the whimpy Superman. That is my biggest JL complaint. A close second is the Batman exclusionary rule. That one gets me.

[Salvor]

I voted for 'Other'. To me the show is really lacking many many things to be memorable... or at least even good. Right now it's decent. Great at times (like the Aquaman ep). Pointless, cliched and boring at others (the whole pilot, and some scenes in the GL ep, which was still pretty good though). Not to mention the animation is a bit of a letdown. So it's a global complaint, not a specific one.

[James Harvey]

I put other as well. I have no complaints with Batman not being there all the time. In the pilot he said he wouldn't be so I don't expect him to be. He's a loner and not much of a team guy.

[Mr. Obsession]

I voted Other. My biggest complaint is that the writing’s weak at points, but it is getting better.

And could you please define "Wimpy Superman". So far he seems to be in character from S:TAS, and that suits me just fine.

[Lucho]

I chose other. Alone these things are minor or insignificant. It’s the writing. More specifically; the Timing and Dialogue which are sometimes grating.
And besides wondering if I’d chew off my own hand to save someone I love. Not one episode has left me with anything to think about, in or out of the context of the episode.

Mr. Obsession,
Love your avatar. “Wimpy Superman” must get his butt handed to him at-least once every episode. It serves to justify he needs the group. As the writers are incapable of showing it through actual plot devices.

[Spider]

Originally posted by Kal-el
I have to say it's the whimpy Superman. That is my biggest JL complaint. A close second is the Batman exclusionary rule. That one gets me.

Kal-el,

What exactly is the 'Batman exclusionary rule'? Is it really something the writers came up with, or something else altogether?

[metaphysician]

Batman Exclusionary Rule: While Batman is present, no one else is allowed to think.

[Mr. Obsession]

Originally posted by Lucho
Mr. Obsession,
Love your avatar. “Wimpy Superman” must get his butt handed to him at-least once every episode. It serves to justify he needs the group. As the writers are incapable of showing it through actual plot devices. Thanks. :) I love my avatar too. Bird_Boy rocks.


Anyway, Superman tended to get his butt handed to him at least once every episode back when he had his own series. Maybe it's just me, but I fail to see the problem in keeping him constant with his previous series. I don't see people complaining that Batman is basically the same as he was in BTAS & TNBA.

I guess I'm just being lenient on the fluctuating superpowers for all the members, I mean it's still the beginning of the first season, the writers are still figuring out what works for the series and what doesn't. However, if it's still like this in the third season...

At any rate, given that each new episode (and I consider all the parts when I say that) seems to be better than the last, well I'm just willing to give them a little slack.

[Salvor]

Originally posted by Mr. Obsession
I mean it's still the beginning of the first season, the writers are still figuring out what works for the series and what doesn't. However, if it's still like this in the third season...

At any rate, given that each new episode (and I consider all the parts when I say that) seems to be better than the last, well I'm just willing to give them a little slack.
So am I. Besides, I was just thinking about 'Angel'... I found the first season to be absolutely horrible: crappy dialogue, poor storylines... Now we're half way season 3 and boy, it totally rocks!

So... wait and see.

[Spider]

Originally posted by metaphysician
Batman Exclusionary Rule: While Batman is present, no one else is allowed to think.

Metaphysician,

Thanks. And the writers came up with this? I don't know the history of how it came about, but it's easy to see that Batman is an intellectual. Too bad (if this is the case) that it has to come at the expense of the other heroes. Or are there good points to this Rule?

[BruceTimmSr]

Was anyone else rolling on the floor laughing when the lamppost nearly fell * :eek: Gasp :eek: * on Wonder Woman's head? I mean, surely, no superhero worth his cape wants to see her get a bump on the noggin. . . but was Superman's reaction a little much? Lord, she pulled an alien craft the size of Rhode Island, her career might end if she was trapped under a traffic light.

Anyways, I don't get too worked up over these things (yeah, Superman's a wimp) but I found this particularly amusing.

[LastSonofKrypton]

I'd have to go with Wimpy Superman, but the Batman Exclusionary Principle comes in a close second. The first time I heard about the BEP was at the San Diego ComicCon during a panel on the old DC Heroes Role-Playing Game. The exact quote from one of the original designers of the game was, "It doesn't matter if Superman has an IQ of 330. According to the Batman Exclusionary Principle, as long as Batman is in the room, nobody else is allowed to think."


Originally posted by Spider


Metaphysician,

Thanks. And the writers came up with this? I don't know the history of how it came about, but it's easy to see that Batman is an intellectual. Too bad (if this is the case) that it has to come at the expense of the other heroes. Or are there good points to this Rule?

[Spider]

Originally posted by LastSonofKrypton
I'd have to go with Wimpy Superman, but the Batman Exclusionary Principle comes in a close second. The first time I heard about the BEP was at the San Diego ComicCon during a panel on the old DC Heroes Role-Playing Game. The exact quote from one of the original designers of the game was, "It doesn't matter if Superman has an IQ of 330. According to the Batman Exclusionary Principle, as long as Batman is in the room, nobody else is allowed to think."

LastSonofKrypton,

Thanks for the quote. I had no idea. ;)

[G. Wen]

My biggest complaint is WW's voice acting. There's no emotion to it. And when there is emotion, it sounds stale and forced.

[BeastBoyWonder]

mine is the plots, which isn't a choice.

[The Mad Hatter]

My only real gripes is that the dialogue isn't always crisp and there's not as much delving into characters' psyches as I'd like.

[peterparker05]

The only thing that really bothered me was that Superman seemed to be having a little trouble holding up the truck in Paradise Lost Part 1. However, I just keep telling myself that he merely lost balance because he was trying to save the falling emergency worker at the same time. I have to believe that or othewise Superman will have truly become a wimp.

[Tim Drake]

Bad writing and poor music.

[Corran Horn]

Superman gets knocked around waaaaaaaay too easily. This was a problem for me in S:TAS as well. I don't know about all this pre-crisis/post-crisis stuff, but last I heard the only thing that hurt Superman was Kryptonite.

( I know he was 'killed' but he'd been battling for hours and hours and his solar 'battery' was drained, IIRC)

[KingKoopa]

All of it's a huge problem, but I voted for the Batman rule.

[SupergirlJenM]

I like the show but Superman TAS was much better!

[Hal Jordan]

Superman's voice. That's it.

[Mattashell]

My complaint is the producers seem to choose action over substance. And may we please have some real villians for once?

Mattashell