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Killtacular
01-24-2002, 01:49 AM
Family Guy is cancelled.

Why are cartoons always the first shows to go when a network changes their budget?


Worse yet, they'll probably replace FG with "THE COUCH", a clone of The Chair and The Chamber.

Yes, The Chamber is on FOX, but that doesn't matter. They could probably get away with it.


Could the year have started any worse?



(I was kidding about The Couch, btw.)

Mr. Obsession
01-24-2002, 02:03 AM
Thank you Fox for making it just that much easier to choose what to watch. :mad:

I can only wonder how much longer Futurama has...

Terminatah
01-24-2002, 02:19 AM
WHAT?

-Terminatah

Killtacular
01-24-2002, 02:29 AM
Williams Street:

PICK UP THIS SHOW.

PICK UP THIS SHOW.

PICK UP THIS SHOW.

PICK UP THIS SHOW.

PICK UP THIS SHOW.

PICK UP THIS SHOW.

PICK UP THIS SHOW.

PICK UP THIS SHOW.

PICK UP THIS SHOW.


Family Guy and Adult Swim were made for each other. Hell. Family Guy IS Adult Swim.

And FOX has been selling practically EVERYTHING in the past few months.

If ye asketh for it(oh..and pay, I guess), ye shall receive.

jeffrey 228
01-24-2002, 06:20 AM
Well I do hope they can get the rights of this show sometime.

austin norsworthy
01-24-2002, 07:01 AM
I didn't watch Family guy on a regular basis, heck, I only three or so episodes, but the ones I did see were really funny. dammit what the hell is wrong with these people? they keep cancelling thier best shows.

Alaskanbullworm
01-24-2002, 07:30 AM
Notice that the two shows put on Thursday at 8:00 and 8:30 got cancelled. We should have forseen this, I know I did.

kiddiesunshine
01-24-2002, 09:05 AM
kill the execs!! they are the main reason why tv sucks!

Clayface
01-24-2002, 09:17 AM
Yay!!! I hated Family Guy. About dang time they cancelled it.

Lonestarr
01-24-2002, 09:18 AM
Just as I imagined. Of course, that's to be expected given its competition: Friends (the show's not even that interesting), Survivor: Africa (ditto) and WWF Smackdown (likewise).

Y'know what I think: Fox wanted "Family Guy" and "The Tick" to fail. Look at the facts between both shows: multiple time slots, episodes pushed back, zero ad time. There's no denying it. Someone should start a petition to get this show on DVD.

killercroc
01-24-2002, 09:22 AM
I just never got that show. Still, in the spirit of prime-time animation, I wish it hadn't been cancelled. I had other things to watch at that time, anyway.

Bird Boy
01-24-2002, 09:46 AM
YES! thank you fox..I hated that show..

sorry..lol

-BB

Terminatah
01-24-2002, 09:46 AM
Originally posted by Matt Wilson
Family Guy is cancelled.What's your source on this?


Originally posted by Mr. Obsession
Thank you Fox for making it just that much easier to choose what to watch. :mad:

I can only wonder how much longer Futurama has... I'm fairly certain FOX forgot it's on the air.


Originally posted by Clayface
Yay!!! I hated Family Guy. About dang time they cancelled it. Never post again.


Originally posted by Lonestarr
Just as I imagined. Of course, that's to be expected given its competition: Friends (the show's not even that interesting), Survivor: Africa (ditto) and WWF Smackdown (likewise).

Y'know what I think: Fox wanted "Family Guy" and "The Tick" to fail. Look at the facts between both shows: multiple time slots, episodes pushed back, zero ad time. There's no denying it. Someone should start a petition to get this show on DVD. Friends and Survivor are great. But why would FOX want their programming to fail? They wanted less ratings?

-Terminatah

Terminatah
01-24-2002, 09:47 AM
Can any of you guys claiming you hated the show please tell me:

What's YOUR idea of a funny show? This should be good for a laugh.

-Terminatah

Gromit
01-24-2002, 10:00 AM
I think it's a poorly designed show.It's loud and gross because it never manages to be funny. It's like it thinks loud and gross is enough. Poor taste is not automatically witty.

It's a series of random pop culture references, zingers, one-liners, and "Hey look, that baby is talkin'!" moments that are only BARELY strung together.

Loud and gross can be funny. South Park comes to mind.

IMO the Family Guy is just loud and gross,and that's all it can be.

Killtacular
01-24-2002, 10:43 AM
Family Guy is NOT South Park.

If you actually think that, maybe you should watch the show again. Cause it's not South Park. South Park is stupid.

And this info came from one of the show's storyboarders.

Gromit
01-24-2002, 11:13 AM
I know Family Guy is not South Park.
South Park is funny, the Family Guy isn't,never was,never has been,never will be.

What I was saying is that loud and gross can be funny.
Lest someone accuse me of dismissing the Family Guy for those reasons.

South Park=Loud,gross,vulgar. Yet still funny IMO.
Family Guy=Loud,gross,vulgar. Yet still not funny IMO.

The "how to" guide to writing a "Family Guy" ep: A) 1 'edgy' sodomy joke B) say 'penis' about 8 times C) make 2 references to some lame 80's sitcom (I.e. 'Facts of Life'/ 'Different Strokes') D) "borrow" a tried and true "Simpsons" A and/or B story. That's the skinny, if that's funny to you,then knock yourself out pal.

The show has never been funny. I don't know how anyone could
watch past the first couple of episodes. I did watch the first seaon,not fun. The show sucked period. Comedy is subjective,you
like the show,I feel it is the scourge of the earth. It's called an opinion. You have yours and I have mine.

So one of the storyboarders thinks it's stupid and that makes it so. That doesn't pass the giggle test. I'm sure there are more
people on the show that think South Park is stupid,and that makes the show stupid. That's their opinion,not mine. South Park has biting satire,Family Guy just bites. Come up with a more cogent argument next time.

All my opinions come from me,I can form my own.

James Harvey
01-24-2002, 11:21 AM
While the show may finally be cancelled, FOX may air out some of the last few episodes. They're gonna have to becaus eone Temptation Island 2 is done on Thursday nights, they're basically gonna have two hours with nothing on. With Tick, Family Guy, and Temptation Island 2 done with. No doubt we'll see some of that Fvaorite Police Chases or junk like that.

As for funny shows...Futurama, King of the Hill, The Daily Show, and reruns of classic Simpsons episodes (the new stuff doesn't cut it). While Family Guy wasn't my favorite show, it had a couple great gags, like the unforgettable Kool-Aid man cameo in the premiere episode all those years back.

Terminatah
01-24-2002, 11:33 AM
So basically what we're saying here is that South Park is not funny and Family Guy is?

-Terminatah

Killtacular
01-24-2002, 11:36 AM
No, I mean my storyboard friend told me the show was cancelled.

And he's out of a job. First lost his job at Zim, now his job at FG.

The least I need to hear is "Yay!! I hated that show". Yay, my friend is screwed and has nowhere to go.

I still don't see why Family Guy and South Park should be used in the same sentence.

South Park's first season was brilliant, but the new episodes are simply not. They lack the social satire that the show was originally built on. Now they just concentrate on adding and then mocking their addition of lame, uninspired characters like Towelie and Timmy. The Looney Tunes/Osama thing was half-decent. But the Afghanistan arc itself was a tired rehash of jokes already made in other shows and websites on the situation.

Family Guy -is- full of references, but what's so bad about references, as long as they're handled tastefully? I haven't seen a parody or cameo that didn't clash with the episode. And I don't get what you mean by gross. Family Guy isn't gross. There's no gross aspect to the show at all. It's vulgar, smart, and funny. While a few episodes are completely hit-or-miss(I'll agree with you on one thing, last week's episode with Brian and the old lady was definitely a Simpsons knockoff), it's one of the funniest shows FOX ever put it. Much much funnier than King of the Hill or The Simpsons.

Bird Boy
01-24-2002, 11:41 AM
sorry...I don't exactly Hate the show..I think I'm still ticked that Tick was cancelled and family guy wasn't...now Family Guy is...and now both shows are cancelled......and Fox sucks...extremely bad..

I never did find Family Guy funny, but, I never thought of the creative team behind it........man, now I feel bad... :(

-BB

Lonestarr
01-24-2002, 11:42 AM
Originally posted by Terminatah
Friends and Survivor are great. But why would FOX want their programming to fail? They wanted less ratings?

-Terminatah

Now that I think about it, it's less a matter of Fox wanting their shows to fail and more a matter of them not giving a rat's butt about them. I loved both shows and I consider this a serious kick in the grapes to see them go in such a short amount of time.

Terminatah
01-24-2002, 11:47 AM
Seth MacFarlane (creator of Family Guy and voice of Peter, Brian, and Stewie) was supposed to be on one of the doomed 9/11 flights, but fortunately missed the plane. We were lucky to still have this terrific show on the air. But hey, what does FOX care.

If another network doesn't pick this up, then I don't know what.

-Terminatah

Brian Cruz
01-24-2002, 11:48 AM
Family Guy seemed to rub a lot of people the wrong way. Kevin Smith really hated it, and never missed an oppurtunity to say so. I never found the appeal of it either. But, different strokes for different folks.

Karkull
01-24-2002, 11:51 AM
Originally posted by Matt Wilson
South Park's first season was brilliant, but the new episodes are simply not. They lack the social satire that the show was originally built on. Now they just concentrate on adding and then mocking their addition of lame, uninspired characters like Towelie and Timmy. The Looney Tunes/Osama thing was half-decent. But the Afghanistan arc itself was a tired rehash of jokes already made in other shows and websites on the situation.

South Park is still brilliant. First off, the Towelie joke was mocking the fact that anyone they introduce (Mr. Hankey, Timmy, Butters) becomes a fan-favorite character and gets a bunch of merchandise (remember the commercial they slipped in for the "I love Towelie" and "I hate Towelie" T-shirts?) Second, Timmy was a one-note character that people liked, so they brought him back and made him into a more-rounded character. As for making fun of him: he's a handicapped child who has friends and isn't ostracized by the other children...what's wrong with that? And they have social satire or a moral lesson in just about every show. If you don't believe me name a couple and I'll tell you what they were. Of course, you're entitled to your opinion...I'm not disputing that.

Now, here's my opinion: I'm glad that The Family Guy is cancelled and I hope that it stays that way this time. Sorry, that's how I feel. I think that it was poorly drawn, poorly executed, and got too many chances from FOX to thrive while other, much more deserving shows got canned. True, it had some good points (the "human" dog and the smart baby) but those points never got beyond the source materials that they copied. In fact, The Family Guy was just a poor copy of The Simpsons, which is why it failed.

Trent Lane
01-24-2002, 12:16 PM
Originally posted by Terminatah
Seth MacFarlane (creator of Family Guy and voice of Peter, Brian, and Stewie) was supposed to be on one of the doomed 9/11 flights, but fortunately missed the plane.

I thought it was Seth Green?...

For those that "hate" this show, don't take it as a knock, but maybe you just don't get it. Inteligent humor and suttle jokes aren't for everyone. Personally, South Park grates on my nerves. I mean, burp and fart jokes are funny... until you wear the hell out of them. Family Guy was a step or four above that, and was really well written. I'm intrested in what beef Kevin Smith has with Seth MacFarlane, primetime envy? Anyway, hope a DVD is released with the episodes on it or it gets picked up elsewhere (UPN?)....

Terminatah
01-24-2002, 12:20 PM
Family Guy WRECKS current Simpsons episodes in terms of originality and humor. Some people seem to have mistaken its reckless format for incompetence in storytelling, but it's a groundbreaking show that's not yet ready for retirement. And I can't think of any "more deserving" shows FOX has put on that Family Guy ever stood in the way of.

It's not like we're talking about NBC, which promoted the hell out of Will & Grace (which HAPPENED to be about gay men) and gave it the Thursday at 9PM slot that was rightfully Frasier's while going around cancelling gems like Steven Levitan's Stark Raving Mad. What's that, NBC? Stark Raving Mad never found an audience? Maybe you couldn't hear us over those commercials proclaiming Will & Grace the greatest thing since the orgasm. The writing was better on Stark Raving Mad. Oh, but Will & Grace has gay characters? I'm sorry.

I thought we were talking about something else.

-Terminatah

Calhoun07
01-24-2002, 12:29 PM
NOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!

I was just thinking the other day how Family Guy is like a thousand times better than any crap the Simpsons is airing these days (and I know there are people who argue with me, but all I can say is get over the Simpsons, their glory days are long gone). Do you think WS can get this for Adult Swim? I can see Fox holding on to the rights of this show pretty tight.

I sure hope at the very least we get season sets on DVD in region one. I do have the region two season one set, but I really don't like watching them on my computer.

BTW, there are sometimes little joke segments they did while the credits rolled. I don't think anybody got to see them, tho, the way Fox splits the screen in half to show you what is coming up.

Terminatah
01-24-2002, 12:36 PM
Originally posted by Trent Lane


I thought it was Seth Green?...

For those that "hate" this show, don't take it as a knock, but maybe you just don't get it. Inteligent humor and suttle jokes aren't for everyone. Personally, South Park grates on my nerves. I mean, burp and fart jokes are funny... until you wear the hell out of them. Family Guy was a step or four above that, and was really well written. I'm intrested in what beef Kevin Smith has with Seth MacFarlane, primetime envy? Anyway, hope a DVD is released with the episodes on it or it gets picked up elsewhere (UPN?).... Seth Green voices the son on the show.

I'll admit that South Park has elements of wit in their writing. I watch it sometimes, and I have loved the episodes that made comedic points, but I've also seen episodes that relied on shock humor too much. That's good when you're looking to satisfy the kind of audience commonly composed of impatient people who like to see new things they don't have to think about too much. Usually this involves Cartman revealing himself to be a sick pervert, and that's not funny. But to enjoy Family Guy, you have to appreciate advanced humor. You have to understand pop culture of the past and present. I feel sorry for whoever didn't die 8 times when they did Alf's True Hollywood Story. Yes, yes, it's Alf. But think about it. IT'S ALF. ALF.

-Terminatah

Killtacular
01-24-2002, 01:43 PM
FOX doesn't hold on to the rights of ANYTHING anymore.

They sold The Tick(the cartoon), Tiny Toons(back when it was still on their station), Animaniacs(ditto), FOX Family, all Saban shows, and even FOX Kids itself.

So why WOULDN'T they sell the rights to FG? All Williams Street has to do is ask. And.. you know, provide money.

I doubt they could renew the show at all, although they want to renew Baby Blues, and both Baby Blues and Family Guy have a budget of 1 million dollars per episode, which is already 4 times the amount of money that the Cartoon Cartoons have. I dunno how many corners they'll have to cut if they wanted to renew the shows.

Elven Moon
01-24-2002, 03:32 PM
First Zim, now this! Are these TV execs trying to kill me? I will admit that I never really watched Family Guy, but when I did there were some parts that had me in stitches (that one scene with Rocky the Flying Squirrel was hilarious!), while some parts didn't. Still, it's still a blow to the stomach that yet another cartoon is getting the boot. If they take away my Futurama, they better watch their doorsteps, cuz hell hath no fury like a woman scorned :p

Sora Takenouchi
01-24-2002, 04:40 PM
Anyone who is glad about this news and feels no sorrow whatsoever, don't deserve anything they own.

Thank you. :)

Family Guy was a brilliant show. Period. Why must all the good shows go? :(

atf487
01-24-2002, 05:52 PM
all the good shows go because there is no room for something that is not family oriented, or famous. Which sucks, but is real in the "popularity factor" of everything in america. Nsync=automatically sells 10 million records. family guy=great show, but didn't get everything it deserves.

William C. Maune
01-24-2002, 08:37 PM
[indent]Bah! Not Family Guy also! Hopefully Adult Swim will pick it up so it can get the long run it deserves. As for those who don't like it, I personally don't have a problem with them saying so, but I cannot stand people who say they are glad something is cancelled. Besides what Matt said, there are many people who do like it and will miss seeing it. If you don't like it enough to where you want to see it cancelled, well it isn't like there aren't 100 other channels you could watch when Family Guy, etc. is on. Finally, I still think South Park is excellent, especially the topical ones, but to each their own.

The Polisher
01-24-2002, 08:50 PM
Originally posted by Jim Harvey
No doubt we'll see some of that Fvaorite Police Chases or junk like that.
Imagine if you will: Next, on FOX: When Toasters Bite Back 2. You asked for more, and now you finally get it!

William C. Maune
01-24-2002, 10:35 PM
[indent]Maybe it will be animated:

The Brave Little Toaster 4: When Toasters Bite Back

pencilsharp
01-24-2002, 11:01 PM
Sigh. The animation implosion continues.

I will admit right up front: I watched exactly one ep of FG. I hated it and never gave it another thought. Every ad I saw for the show (and, despite what anyone says, there were TONS of them, usually during the locals' non-prime-time schedules, at least until this season...) just renewed my distaste. Hey, an evil baby! Wow, a talking dog! Gosh, more parents suffering the disrespect of their insufferable kids!

Blech.

While I will mark the passing of FG, I'll not mourn it. Oh, I feel bad for Matt's storyboarding buddy; I hate seeing good people lose work. Still, FG is no big loss. And FG on Adult Swim will give me one more reason to ignore that, too. But that's another topic, entirely.

Oh, and for all the flamers on this thread, let me say this. I'd rather watch a thousand carnivorous toasters than a single ep of FG. Besides, I've run out of s'mores from the flaming I got with the infamous "Sharks on Swim" thread from the AS board. :p

Killtacular
01-24-2002, 11:29 PM
Well, at least you admitted that you only saw one episode.

So your opinion went from counting squat, to counting squat-and-a-half. :)

Trent Lane
01-25-2002, 01:19 AM
Gee, guess we'll get the "real life" shows in FG and Ticks place. Temptation Bus Stop, Janitorial Love 2K2, The Chamber Pot, Who Wants to Marry a Hobo, and so many more!!!

Please, reality TV bites it hard. Family Guy's getting the shaft, and will be greatly missed. Those who'd rather see reality TV in its place, I weep for you... :rolleyes:

Terminatah
01-25-2002, 01:32 AM
The opposite of love is not hate, it is disinterest. Really says something about all these people going out of their way to praise the cancellation of Family Guy, don't it? Deep down in places they don't talk about at parties, they KNOW it's a show so magical, they could never hope to comprehend its glory.

-Terminatah

Clayface
01-25-2002, 08:54 AM
Originally posted by Terminatah
Can any of you guys claiming you hated the show please tell me:

What's YOUR idea of a funny show? This should be good for a laugh.


The Tick, Futurama, etc.

Terminatah
01-25-2002, 11:02 AM
Originally posted by Clayface


The Tick, Futurama, etc. Live action Tick? Well, no wonder you don't like Family Guy.

I really tried to give The Tick the benefit of the doubt. I don't know if it might've grown in the years to come, but overall, it was disappointing. If you're going to do satire, don't dumb it down.

-Terminatah

Clayface
01-25-2002, 11:07 AM
Originally posted by Terminatah
Live action Tick? Well, no wonder you don't like Family Guy.



Huh? You're in the minority on this one - most people on this board enjoyed the live-action Tick show. I preferred the cartoon to the live-action one, but they were both excellent.




If you're going to do satire, don't dumb it down.



That's exactly how I feel about Family Guy - far too dumbed down. There was nothing clever or interesting about it.

Terminatah
01-25-2002, 11:17 AM
Originally posted by Clayface


Huh? You're in the minority on this one - most people on this board enjoyed the live-action Tick show. I preferred the cartoon to the live-action one, but they were both excellent. No, I'm not. I'm only in the minority of this BOARD, which is just a pinch of all the legions of people who count. I was not shocked that you dropped the name of this present-crowd favorite and then backed up your post by mentioning the local fanbase.


Originally posted by Clayface



That's exactly how I feel about Family Guy - far too dumbed down. There was nothing clever or interesting about it. I can see how you might THINK that if you didn't really get Family Guy.

-Terminatah

Clayface
01-25-2002, 11:21 AM
Originally posted by Terminatah
No, I'm not. I'm only in the minority of this BOARD, which is just a pinch of all the legions of people who count.


As I said, you're a minority on this board.
You're also a minority among the Tick fan-base, as there's been nothing but praise for the live-action show on most of the Tick boards across the web community.




I can see how you might THINK that if you didn't really get Family Guy.


Are you just trying to start a flame war here or what? You've repeatedly talked down to the posters on this board that disagree with you by questioning thier intelligence or how well they "get" something. It seems like you're trying nothing more than to start a flame war.

There's nothing to "get" about the show. The jokes all make sense, they just aren't funny.

Terminatah
01-25-2002, 11:29 AM
Originally posted by Clayface


Are you just trying to start a flame war here or what? You've repeatedly talked down to the posters on this board that disagree with you by questioning thier intelligence or how well they "get" something. It seems like you're trying nothing more than to start a flame war.

There's nothing to "get" about the show. The jokes all make sense, they just aren't funny.

Whoa whoa whoa, calm down Clayface, this ain't no war. If I was trying to start something, I'd be in other threads telling people I'm glad one of their favorite shows got cancelled.

-Terminatah

Clayface
01-25-2002, 11:32 AM
Originally posted by Terminatah
Whoa whoa whoa, calm down Clayface, this ain't no war. If I was trying to start something, I'd be in other threads telling people I'm glad one of their favorite shows got cancelled.


The board is for posting opinions. My opinion is, I'm glad it got cancelled. Nothing there says anything about the people that liked the show. I cpmmented negatively on the show, not the posters. Your posts are attacking the posters personally.

Wyloms
01-25-2002, 11:36 AM
I dont see why they took family guy off the air that was a good and funny show another thing for all you people out there who dont like family guy you guys are weird please tell me what you think is "funny"

Clayface
01-25-2002, 11:42 AM
Originally posted by Wyloms
another thing for all you people out there who dont like family guy you guys are weird please tell me what you think is "funny"


1) Someone isn't "wierd" because they don't like what you do.

2) Go back and re-read the posts - several of us have already stated some of the shows we do like.

Trent Lane
01-25-2002, 11:52 AM
Whoa, this thread's gonna break out into a three year old slap fight soon. Geez, you don't like the show, don't post and say "I don't like the show cause it's stupid, dumbed down, etc..." All you're doing is starting the name calling crap and that below about everyone here. So, you got something postive to say, I'd say go ahead and post it. But that doesn't include stuff like "I'm glad it got cancelled." Let the mourning of Family Guy continue, and sorry for sounding so much like a parent or something- the squabling was just getting on my nerves....

Clayface
01-25-2002, 12:02 PM
Originally posted by Trent Lane
Whoa, this thread's gonna break out into a three year old slap fight soon. Geez, you don't like the show, don't post and say "I don't like the show cause it's stupid, dumbed down, etc..." All you're doing is starting the name calling crap and that below about everyone here.



I posted saying I didn't like the show and was glad it was gone. I said nothing about why I didn't like the show until I was asked.




So, you got something postive to say, I'd say go ahead and post it. But that doesn't include stuff like "I'm glad it got cancelled."



Why not? I am glad it got cancelled. And there's nothing wrong with saying that.




Let the mourning of Family Guy continue, and sorry for sounding so much like a parent or something- the squabling was just getting on my nerves....


I've not done anything to stop people from mourning Family Guy. I've just stated my opinion on its demise.

Trent Lane
01-25-2002, 12:06 PM
Okay, this is where I bow out....

James Harvey
01-25-2002, 12:14 PM
...and this is where I close the thread. Honestly people, I'm a bit dissapointed that the difference of opinions on such a show has caused this. We should be able to express our different opinions without other people demeaning them, or criticizing other posters. Just becuase someone dislikes a show that you like (or vice versa) does not give you permisison to humilate and bash that person. Message Boards are about posting opinions, not be ridiculed for them.
Thread closed.