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Wussycat
11-05-2006, 08:11 AM
Since Craig McCracken, Lauren Faust, and probably other people who work on Foster's are on this forum, I thought we could post questions and have at least a few answered.
Here are mine:
1) Do Frankie and Mr. Herriman still think Mac and Goo are an item?
2) If Cheese calls smoothies 'chocolate milk', does that mean he calls chocolate milk 'smoothies'?
3) What is Madam Foster's age?
Mr. Ralph
11-05-2006, 11:31 AM
what happened to wilt's arm and eye?????????
Dr.Pepper
11-05-2006, 11:45 AM
2) If Cheese calls smoothies 'chocolate milk', does that mean he calls chocolate milk 'smoothies'?
No. He calls choclate milk, chocolate milk. I saw it on Mac Daddy.
Zubby
11-05-2006, 12:54 PM
How do we know that Foster's creators look at these forums?
If they do, great, I don't have any questions right now. I'll just say 'Love your show!' and kindly ask you to update your blog more frequently. :)
Wussycat
11-05-2006, 12:57 PM
what happened to wilt's arm and eye?????????
He was created that way.
How do we know that Foster's creators look at these forums?
If they do, great, I don't have any questions right now. I'll just say 'Love your show!' and kindly ask you to update your blog more frequently. :) I can't remember McCracken's username, but Faust's is Girl_named_Goo. (http://forums.toonzone.net/member.php?u=18441)
Mr. Ralph
11-05-2006, 03:58 PM
He was created that way.
how do you know????
Mr. Manager
11-05-2006, 04:26 PM
I can't remember McCracken's usernameHis user name is Puffdaddy (http://forums.toonzone.net/member.php?u=1949).
tb4000
11-05-2006, 05:08 PM
how do you know????
I think it's a safe bet that he was. The child that created him may have just had a weird design for him in mind, or could have been physically handicapped as well, and created someone "like him or herself."
Kagetsu
11-05-2006, 07:45 PM
How do we know that Foster's creators look at these forums?
Because they yelled at us once for bashing the show. I don't remember Lauren showing up in particular, but confident that she did. (go figure that one)
90% of the time, the only way to ever get a response from creators, writers, VA's, networks,,, they are looking in these places now and then,,, is to be so negative that they get mad. it's sad but true. I think they (animators in general) tend to be around more often when new characters are introduced, time slots are changed, stuff they want feed back for.
Now I'm a little biased because I've hung around places for shows from France, but I've seen more interaction there.
Zubby
11-05-2006, 11:36 PM
Because they yelled at us once for bashing the show. I don't remember Lauren showing up in particular, but confident that she did. (go figure that one)
90% of the time, the only way to ever get a response from creators, writers, VA's, networks,,, they are looking in these places now and then,,, is to be so negative that they get mad. it's sad but true. I think they (animators in general) tend to be around more often when new characters are introduced, time slots are changed, stuff they want feed back for.
Now I'm a little biased because I've hung around places for shows from France, but I've seen more interaction there.
Several members of the Teen Titans production team used to post on the forums at Titansgo.net, and for the most part they were all friendly types.
Actually, I've just looked (quickly) at all the posts by puffdaddy and girl named goo, and thay all seemed pretty civil as well. No yelling.
Tay the Cat
11-05-2006, 11:40 PM
Because they yelled at us once for bashing the show. I don't remember Lauren showing up in particular, but confident that she did. (go figure that one)
90% of the time, the only way to ever get a response from creators, writers, VA's, networks,,, they are looking in these places now and then,,, is to be so negative that they get mad. it's sad but true. I think they (animators in general) tend to be around more often when new characters are introduced, time slots are changed, stuff they want feed back for.
Now I'm a little biased because I've hung around places for shows from France, but I've seen more interaction there.
Craig and Lauren have been nothing but nice to us.
I.R Joey
11-06-2006, 01:43 AM
Craig and Lauren have showed up hear. They seem nice enough, I know Lauren must be very patient as she answers most of my, what must seem like, ridicoulas questions.
But those are good questions. I'd like to see the Mac/Goo idea used for another episode (as long as it's not like contrived fan fiction.)
Mr. Manager
11-06-2006, 09:08 AM
Because they yelled at us once for bashing the show. I don't remember Lauren showing up in particular, but confident that she did. (go figure that one)Y'know, I read about that thread but I couldn't find Craig and Lauren's posts or the thread. I assume it's deleted or I'm just not finding it.
One Radical Dude
11-06-2006, 10:57 AM
Because they yelled at us once for bashing the show. I don't remember Lauren showing up in particular, but confident that she did. (go figure that one)
90% of the time, the only way to ever get a response from creators, writers, VA's, networks,,, they are looking in these places now and then,,, is to be so negative that they get mad. it's sad but true. I think they (animators in general) tend to be around more often when new characters are introduced, time slots are changed, stuff they want feed back for.
Now I'm a little biased because I've hung around places for shows from France, but I've seen more interaction there.
You need to get your facts straight. I've never seen the crew be rude at all. I know, believe me.
Kagetsu
11-06-2006, 03:35 PM
They weren't rude, just mad that there were some posts (it was starting to become a trend) blaming Lauren for the less than stellar shows, and Craig made a direct post that All shows were cleared by him and all critisism be placed to him and not Lauren. Perhaps yelled was not the best choice of words. I tend to use it when people start being very formal about something. It made me feel bad for them to have been reading all that for a new show that was essentially breaking new ground. I wouldn't be surprised if they have been deleted. It was the first, and since I don't really follow the Fosters threads, and only time I can say I saw any of their posts.
Yes, this is the post I remember.
<edit>Removed post quote so as not to dwell on it
Sometimes I don't remeber everything, sometimes my facts are very clear.
clucky
11-06-2006, 03:50 PM
what happened to wilt's arm and eye?????????
I think its a playon his name Wilt
and also Wilt cahmberlin but thats besides the point and
I'm don't work on the show but you proboly knew that :sweat:
veemonjosh
11-06-2006, 04:07 PM
3) What is Madam Foster's age?
I think she may be in her 80's.
One Radical Dude
11-06-2006, 08:00 PM
I agree with Craig, Kagetsu. Craig didn't say what he said because people disagreed, it's because some, I believe, chose to blame (name here) for what happened. They've done a great job with the show, and if there's any episodes I thought were bad, I wouldn't attack anyone for it. I won't go continue with this, because it's time to move on. It's all in the past, why dwell on it?
Girl_named_Goo
11-06-2006, 08:53 PM
Ok, ok, as much as I don't want to confirm that those of us who work on the shows only chime in when people are saying bad stuff, I gotta say somehting here.
The situation that Kagetsu was speaking of was a very uncomfortable one. Neither Craig nor I have a problem when people dislike the show (though, obviously, it makes us bummed if anything.) Our responses in the past have been only to personal attacks. I contacted a moderator because some individuals were blaming me personally for things they weren't happy about on the show. If I remember correctly, someone said something to the effect of "yeah, that show was terrible. Lauren Faust must have wrote it," and in fact, I hadn't. (The person who did write the show called me to apologize that I took the blame. That writer was pretty hurt by the comment, but took it like a pro.) And it wasn't the only time such unfounded disdain was directed towards me. Craig's post, which was quoted above, was a response to some posters accusing him of slacking off and not caring, which is unfounded, unfair, and untrue.
Look, people who work on the shows come here. We want to know what people think, and your opinions to have an affect on our creative decisions. Maybe not everything that is said, but more than you think. But when these forums become a hostile place for us to visit, we just have to leave. But I don't want to leave. I find your opinions to be helpful. After all, we're trying to entertain you aren't we?? And I swear, you don't have to like our shows. I literally APOLOGIZED on a thread for "Everyone Knows it's Bendy." I understand that it's not well received, and I learned a great lesson from it. It will certainly affect my writing in the future.
So with that said, Frankie and Mr. H know Goo and Mac are not an item, Cheese thinks just about any liquid is chocolate milk, and we don't know how old Madame Foster is. Also, I don't want to spoil the secret behind Wilt's arm. We're saving it for an episode.:p
Thanks, Lauren Faust
Leviathan
11-06-2006, 09:11 PM
Yes, unfortunately I remember that well (something similar also occured in an Atomic Betty thread in this exact same forum.).
Lauren, I'm sure none of the TZ-ers here meant anything truly disdainful or acid-tongued or anything (I sure don't, and i've been watching the show since the beginning). It's just that sometimes, these criticisms get out of hand or go too far, which unfortunately lead to certain incidents (Your post and The bringing up of Craiggy's post was also a revelation to me. Although i'm embarrassed to admit this, For a wiile, I was beginning to think that the people in the animation industry were generally becoming less tolerant of criticsm.)
Anyway, it's great to hear from you.
-Kevin M. (Foster's Fan)
limel
11-06-2006, 10:21 PM
Also, I don't want to spoil the secret behind Wilt's arm. We're saving it for an episode.:p
Good Wilt Hunting?
One Radical Dude
11-06-2006, 10:32 PM
Good Wilt Hunting?
It's probably better to wait and see. Maybilly, maybilly nottily. :p
Kagetsu
11-06-2006, 10:53 PM
(Sorry for bringing that^ up)
As long as I'm here.
The baubles in Goos hair, any signifigance or she just grabs colourful things as free expression. Off hand I only remember the blue paper clip.
And how did Madam Foster get the black TransAm. that was hilarious.
Goo's become my second favorite character next to Frankie. Her controlling side that comes out sometimes is a nice touch.
Puffdaddy
11-06-2006, 11:41 PM
The baubles in Goos hair, any signifigance or she just grabs colourful things as free expression. Off hand I only remember the blue paper clip.
1. A paperclip
2. A scrunchie
3. Blossom's hair clip
See I'm nice,
Craig
Kury Wagner
11-07-2006, 12:21 AM
I for one adore the show, so major kudos to the entire Foster's staff.
I.R Joey
11-07-2006, 12:34 AM
See rub the lamp enough and poof they appear. It's really quite magical :D.
Zubby
11-07-2006, 01:15 AM
See rub the lamp enough and poof they appear. It's really quite magical :D.
Great! Now that we know they're here, and nice, back to the questions:
1. What animated shows are you watching these days?
2. Any of those Cheese 'I like chocolate milk' t-shirs lying around that you're just dying to send my way? (I think they were a Comic-Con give away or something). I promise I'll wear it often and not sell it on Ebay!
Leviathan
11-07-2006, 04:43 PM
It's probably better to wait and see. Maybilly, maybilly nottily. :p
That's veritty funnity, One Radical Dudeitty. Reallity.
And in other news, this is the last you'll hear from me in this thread. You won't need to hear from me anymore.
limel
11-07-2006, 10:05 PM
See I'm nice,
Craig
We knew you were nice, we just thought every time you posted, you were either ticked off, or clearing a rumor.
But let's not resurrect a dead subject
I love setting a president, this line always cracks me up:
Ed: ...The Cucumber
Mac: You mean the Incumbent
Ed: Si, the Cucumbent
What made you come up with him speaking Spanglish? Or was it just completely random?
GuardianKid13
11-07-2006, 10:51 PM
I like this part from Setting a President:
Bloo: in this paper, you get to punch the person your not going to vote for
*Eduardo punches Bloo*
Ed: I like voting!
LOL!:p
Wussycat
11-07-2006, 11:15 PM
Why does Frankie get paid? Isn't Foster's supposed to be like a charity?
tb4000
11-07-2006, 11:56 PM
Why does Frankie get paid? Isn't Foster's supposed to be like a charity?
If you're in your 20's, don't you need spending money? She has a history with the house, but it's still her job.
Zubby
11-08-2006, 06:39 PM
Why does Frankie get paid? Isn't Foster's supposed to be like a charity?
Not everyone who works for a charity is doing volunteer work. CHarities hire employees, just like other busniesses do. If that bothers you, take comfort in the fact that she doesn't appear to be geting paid very much.
Voxxyn
11-09-2006, 02:50 PM
Um... you say that as if Frankie doesn't care at all about the imaginary friends or the Foster's cause... which COULDN'T BE ANY FURTHER FROM THE TRUTH.
It's just that considering all the work she does, coupled with the fact that she's an adult now and is willing to forsake a "real life and job" so that she can continue being at Foster's, I think it would be unfair if she didn't receive some sort of monetary reward.
And I don't think her quitting her Presidential job at the end of SAP was because she was greedy, because she showed genuine sympathy towards Mr. Herriman. And considering the nature of her personality, I have no doubt she would've eventually given Herriman back his job even if the pay was much higher.
Sorry if I seem heated. But I'm a huge Frankie fan, and I didn't appreciate the somewhat slanderous tone of that post.
The Huntsman
11-09-2006, 04:20 PM
I’m sure Lauren and Craig do their best to answer questions; I once behaved inappropriately and scolded Lauren in the past, but I sincerely apologized for my actions back then. Regardless, I have a question.
Why didn’t anybody care about what happened to Berry in Berry Scary, and will she ever return? I recall, in the Duchess episode of season three, Mr. Herriman had a plaque that, more-or-less, said that all friends are welcome and that they won’t be kicked out without a home. However, nobody seemed to care that Berry was sent out of the house, homeless, on a rubber-band ball, without even getting a chance to retrieve her personal possessions that she brought into the home in the form of tiny suitcases.
Oh course, I’m a Berry fan, probably more-so than I should be, as I realize she was a minor character, but I still believe she was treated unfairly and I wish she would return one day.
Wussycat
11-09-2006, 05:05 PM
Some say that Cheese has the personality of a child with Asperger's. Was this intentional? Does Louise have Asperger's?
I.R Joey
11-09-2006, 05:07 PM
With all these questions there probably thinking "What did we step into?":sweat:
Voxxyn
11-09-2006, 06:30 PM
Some say that Cheese has the personality of a child with Asperger's. Was this intentional? Does Louise have Asperger's?
If you're talking about the Rain Man stereotype of autism, then yes, Cheese is remarkably similar. But Asperger's is a VERY DIFFERENT THING.
I know this, because I have Asperger's myself... and I find that suggestion to be a little offensive and insulting. NOT ALL PEOPLE ON THE AUTISTIC SPECTRUM ARE LIKE THAT.
MagemanSP
11-11-2006, 06:57 PM
If you're talking about the Rain Man stereotype of autism, then yes, Cheese is remarkably similar. But Asperger's is a VERY DIFFERENT THING.
I know this, because I have Asperger's myself... and I find that suggestion to be a little offensive and insulting. NOT ALL PEOPLE ON THE AUTISTIC SPECTRUM ARE LIKE THAT.
Thanks GI Joe! Now we know!
Mr. Ralph
11-11-2006, 08:08 PM
hi lauren i'm your biggest fan and you don't know how honored i feel that you actually answered me!!!!!!!!!:anime::anime::):cool:
G1Ravage
11-12-2006, 02:52 AM
1. A paperclip
2. A scrunchie
3. Blossom's hair clip
See I'm nice,
Craig
While I don't watch Foster's religiously, just as someone who knows your work and who you are in the animation industry, I think it's fantastic that you drop by from time to time to chat with the fans and common folk here. You too, Lauren. Thanks for always reaching out to us.
Terminate421
11-12-2006, 09:06 AM
1: dont know
2: dont know
3: maybe 72-95 thats the closest i can get
Kagetsu
11-12-2006, 04:41 PM
Um... you say that as if Frankie doesn't care at all about the imaginary friends or the Foster's cause... which COULDN'T BE ANY FURTHER FROM THE TRUTH.
It's just that considering all the work she does, coupled with the fact that she's an adult now and is willing to forsake a "real life and job" so that she can continue being at Foster's, I think it would be unfair if she didn't receive some sort of monetary reward.
And I don't think her quitting her Presidential job at the end of SAP was because she was greedy, because she showed genuine sympathy towards Mr. Herriman. And considering the nature of her personality, I have no doubt she would've eventually given Herriman back his job even if the pay was much higher.
Sorry if I seem heated. But I'm a huge Frankie fan, and I didn't appreciate the somewhat slanderous tone of that post.
There is also the tax consideration that has to show the Government where funds are going. Though I get the idea that rather than campaigning for funds, the house runs more or less off the "Foster Treasure" And there's no way Frankie could do all she does and not get paid. The odd part is she's the only one that really has any sense, though I think Madam Foster hides hides her true "how the world works" knowledge.
Girl_named_Goo
11-12-2006, 08:38 PM
Alrighty... let's see if I get everybody's...
And how did Madam Foster get the black TransAm. that was hilarious.
She liked it, so she bought it.
1. What animated shows are you watching these days?
2. Any of those Cheese 'I like chocolate milk' t-shirs lying around that you're just dying to send my way? (I think they were a Comic-Con give away or something). I promise I'll wear it often and not sell it on Ebay!
1. Sad to say, not too much. Still love Sponge Bob, Teenage Robot, I was into Teen Titans for a while. I read Inu Yasha, but I don't catch too much of the show. Aqua Teen Hunger Force. Other than that, I watch old stuff and animated movies-- and mostly old ones at that.
2. Sorry-- those are loooooooong gone.:sweat:
Why does Frankie get paid? Isn't Foster's supposed to be like a charity?
I think some other folks addressed this already, but yeah, most charities are not just run by volunteers. Portions of the donations people make are given to pay the salaries of those working for the organizations.
Why didn’t anybody care about what happened to Berry in Berry Scary, and will she ever return? I recall, in the Duchess episode of season three, Mr. Herriman had a plaque that, more-or-less, said that all friends are welcome and that they won’t be kicked out without a home. However, nobody seemed to care that Berry was sent out of the house, homeless, on a rubber-band ball, without even getting a chance to retrieve her personal possessions that she brought into the home in the form of tiny suitcases.
When we wrote Berry Scary, the plaque didn't exist yet. We thought it up as a plot device for Duchess of Wails. I guess you can just chalk that one up to Cartoon Logic. For the purposes of the episode, Berry, the villian, had to be thwarted and disposed of. If we spent time exploring the logic of it, the story would have gotten complicated and taken a very serious turn. I know that probably won't justify it for you, but that's the reason we wrote it that way. She may come back if we think of an appropriate way to handle it.
Some say that Cheese has the personality of a child with Asperger's. Was this intentional? Does Louise have Asperger's?
Though I have heard of it, I'm not familiar with Asperger's. Honestly, I was just going for "weird" for both Cheese and Louise.
See ya!- Lauren
J. B. Warner
11-12-2006, 09:17 PM
As long as we're in contact with Craig and Lauren, I've got a question for both of them...
Do you think "Foster's" would work better on a different network? I mean, the show itself is a great many notches above just about everything else on Cartoon Network in terms of intelligence and overall writing quality, yet their advertising campaigns constantly lump it in with all of their "the folks who made this aren't even trying" shows. It always unsettles me to watch a new episode of "Foster's" amid those sickeningly stupid Fridays bumpers. And let's not forget those infamous "Yes" billboards from this past summer that chose to showcase the series with lines like "I pooted" and "I'm a hot toe picker". And then there's the fact that you literally can't watch the show for two minutes without being assaulted by one of Cartoon Network's half-screen advertisements popping up out of nowhere and obscuring the action. I think "Foster's" could be much more universally recognized as the brilliant show it is if it wasn't surrounded by "Camp Lazlo", "My Gym Partner's a Monkey", "The Grim Adventures of Billy and Mandy", and "Hi Hi Puffy AmiYumi". What's your opinion?
Frank
11-13-2006, 01:17 AM
I have a few questions about the production of the Fosters;
How long does it take to make an episode of the show?
I heard that Tom Kane (one of the Voice Actors on the show) records most of his dialogue in New York. Does he ever come out to L.A. to record any dialogue on Fosters?
Wonderful job on the show, Craig and Lauren. Keep up the good work!:D
One Radical Dude
11-13-2006, 01:51 AM
I read that Tom Kane does the voice-over work at his home studio in the Midwest, but I'm not sure if that's accurate or not. Or maybe, MAYBE he does do work in NY. I don't think she can say much on whether Foster's would be better on another network, because that's probably not her or Craig's decision. I do agree with one thing, though, I dislike the stuff you mentioned, J.B. Unfortunately, I don't see any of that stuff going away anytime soon.
Anyway, I think those are great questions. I look forward to hearing back. :)
trayguy
11-13-2006, 02:08 AM
A question or 2 for Lauren and Craig.
1. Will Duchness and Bendy finally cause so much trouble that they are expelled or killed off.
2. Will the other Friends like (Wilt,Eduardo,Coco be adoted and move off and new characters come in to take their place.
3. Will there ever be that Mac and Goo really have a boyfriend -girlfriend relationship.
Thank You.:)
Wussycat
11-13-2006, 02:19 AM
Does every minor imaginary friend in the home have a name?
What is the cute, pink bear/dragon thing's name?
I.R Joey
11-13-2006, 02:56 AM
"Run Lauren run Craig, escape while you still can!!!"
No seriously thanks to both of you for answering all these questions. To be fair I myself was wondering about Berry returning.
Mr. Manager
11-13-2006, 08:25 PM
I love the show (so do my sister and mother) and thanks for answering all these questions of ours.
I've got a few.
Does Frankie live at the home or alone?
I hope this isn't a dumb question but did Frankie create Coco? I ask this because it seems she can understand Coco.
What do you think of the direction CN has been going in the last year and a half?*
Is there any chance we'll see a crossover between another CN show and yours? I'm not too fond of crossovers but I read in Toon Zone's Comic-Con article that a crossover between two CN originals is going to happen soon.
What types of Foster's toys are coming from Mattel? Will there be a Cheese plushie?
What animation oriented sites do you two enjoy?*If this question would get you guys in trouble, then don't answer it.
Mr.Penguin
11-13-2006, 09:29 PM
I hope this isn't a dumb question but did Frankie create Coco? I ask this because it seems she can understand Coco.I read somewhere that Coco was imagined by a lonely girl on an island to keep her company. I may be wrong, though. And thanks for coming, Craig and Lauren! That's really nice of you to talk to us! ...And if it's possible can you add me to your friends on MySpace? (if you want)...:sweat:
Wussycat
11-13-2006, 09:39 PM
Does Frankie live at the home or alone?She lives at Foster's. We've seen her room in Squeakerboxxx and maybe other episodes.
Is there any chance we'll see a crossover between another CN show and yours? I'm not too fond of crossovers but I read in Toon Zone's Comic-Con article that a crossover between two CN originals is going to happen soon.
They meant the Billy & Mandy/KND crossover.
Freedom Fighter
11-14-2006, 04:16 AM
I hope this isn't a dumb question but did Frankie create Coco? I ask this because it seems she can understand Coco.No, I don't think so. But that'll be answered in "Good Wilt Hunting" for sure.
Mr. Manager
11-14-2006, 02:47 PM
And if it's possible can you add me to your friends on MySpace? (if you want)...:sweat: I didn't know Craig and Lauren have a MySpace. I can't find it. Are you talking about the Foster's Blog on Blogspot?
ElBarto
11-14-2006, 10:32 PM
Is Fosters made entirly in flash?
I.R Joey
11-14-2006, 11:54 PM
I guess I'll go ahead and get in on this.
Will we ever meet Goo's parents? We heard so much about them in Go Goo Go and I'm curious about what they might actually be like.
Wussycat
11-15-2006, 04:58 AM
Today I noticed something about Mr. Herriman:
When it comes to very minor things (such as the placement of tent pins) he has super-sight, but when it comes to very obvious things (such as the fake Eduardo) he's short-sighted.
Was this bit of irony intentional?
Wussycat
11-25-2006, 09:41 AM
Mac: So none of those Santas were real?
Frankie: As real as my great aunt Fanny.
Was that a cosmetic surgery joke?
Zubby
11-25-2006, 11:14 AM
Mac: So none of those Santas were real?
Frankie: As real as my great aunt Fanny.
Was that a cosmetic surgery joke?
If it is then I don't get it.
Super Sonic
11-26-2006, 03:50 PM
Why did'nt Herriman do anything in Emacipation Complication when Frankie told him about Abe's plot?
judyindisguise
11-27-2006, 12:15 AM
Ok, ok, as much as I don't want to confirm that those of us who work on the shows only chime in when people are saying bad stuff, I gotta say somehting here.
The situation that Kagetsu was speaking of was a very uncomfortable one. Neither Craig nor I have a problem when people dislike the show (though, obviously, it makes us bummed if anything.) Our responses in the past have been only to personal attacks. I contacted a moderator because some individuals were blaming me personally for things they weren't happy about on the show. If I remember correctly, someone said something to the effect of "yeah, that show was terrible. Lauren Faust must have wrote it," and in fact, I hadn't. (The person who did write the show called me to apologize that I took the blame. That writer was pretty hurt by the comment, but took it like a pro.) And it wasn't the only time such unfounded disdain was directed towards me. Craig's post, which was quoted above, was a response to some posters accusing him of slacking off and not caring, which is unfounded, unfair, and untrue.
Look, people who work on the shows come here. We want to know what people think, and your opinions to have an affect on our creative decisions. Maybe not everything that is said, but more than you think. But when these forums become a hostile place for us to visit, we just have to leave. But I don't want to leave. I find your opinions to be helpful. After all, we're trying to entertain you aren't we?? And I swear, you don't have to like our shows. I literally APOLOGIZED on a thread for "Everyone Knows it's Bendy." I understand that it's not well received, and I learned a great lesson from it. It will certainly affect my writing in the future.
So with that said, Frankie and Mr. H know Goo and Mac are not an item, Cheese thinks just about any liquid is chocolate milk, and we don't know how old Madame Foster is. Also, I don't want to spoil the secret behind Wilt's arm. We're saving it for an episode.:p
Thanks, Lauren Faust
I've said it before and I'll say it again: I like Bendy! So there! :p
judyindisguise
11-27-2006, 12:22 AM
I like this part from Setting a President:
Bloo: in this paper, you get to punch the person your not going to vote for
*Eduardo punches Bloo*
Ed: I like voting!
LOL!:p
I like that part too. In fact I cheered when Bloo got smacked. Just for the record, I don't hate the little guy, and I understand that his getting on everyone's last nerve serves a purpose, but I dug that his chicanery backfired on him. For once.
Ahiru-kun
11-27-2006, 01:16 AM
I've got one. What caused Bloo to change? He was good natured in the first few episodes but then suddenly became your cliche jerk character.
Tay the Cat
11-27-2006, 06:42 PM
I've said it before and I'll say it again: I like Bendy! So there! :p
So did I, but the episode blew.
Dr.Pepper
11-27-2006, 06:53 PM
Does Frankie have any imaginary friends?
Super Sonic
12-03-2006, 12:15 PM
Does Frankie have any imaginary friends?
She imagined the scribbles, remember?
And to answer another poster's question about Bloo, I think he changed because his character wasn't fully established, and it's important to note that Bloo has never been a 'good' character...But being a person that doesn't work on the show, I'm just providing my input.
pitbulllady
12-03-2006, 03:27 PM
She imagined the scribbles, remember?
And to answer another poster's question about Bloo, I think he changed because his character wasn't fully established, and it's important to note that Bloo has never been a 'good' character...But being a person that doesn't work on the show, I'm just providing my input.
I've been a long-time lurker here, mainly since I am such a big fan of Foster's, and a member/Admin of a Foster's forum, and I finally decided to join up.
I have to reply though, that Frankie DID NOT imagine the Scribbles, and I have no idea where so many people get that! In the flashback part of "The Trouble With Scribbles", it showed that SHE was the first to let them out from behind the "secret door", but it's never, ever stated that she actually created them. They were already there, locked behind that door, when she arrived at Foster's. Mr. Herriman clearly explains to Mac and Bloo that the Scribbles are "the puerile ruminations of bratlings", and when they give him that look that says, "HUH?", he further explains, "They are the very first imaginings of INFANTS", meaning that the Scribbles are the very first Imaginary Friends created by human babies, LOTS of human babies, over many, many generations. Nowhere in that episode is it ever stated that Frankie is responsible for having created even one of them; she only let them out from behind the "secret door" when she was a little girl, creating the first Scribble "panic".
pitbulllady
waynekaa
12-04-2006, 02:46 PM
Why did'nt Herriman do anything in Emacipation Complication when Frankie told him about Abe's plot?
Well he did start protesting afterwards but perhaps just a little slow on the uptake. Probably also intimidated by Abe's bodyguard too
Girl_named_Goo
12-07-2006, 12:37 AM
All righty, let me see here...
Do you think "Foster's" would work better on a different network? I mean, the show itself is a great many notches above just about everything else on Cartoon Network in terms of intelligence and overall writing quality, yet their advertising campaigns constantly lump it in with all of their "the folks who made this aren't even trying" shows. It always unsettles me to watch a new episode of "Foster's" amid those sickeningly stupid Fridays bumpers. And let's not forget those infamous "Yes" billboards from this past summer that chose to showcase the series with lines like "I pooted" and "I'm a hot toe picker". And then there's the fact that you literally can't watch the show for two minutes without being assaulted by one of Cartoon Network's half-screen advertisements popping up out of nowhere and obscuring the action. I think "Foster's" could be much more universally recognized as the brilliant show it is if it wasn't surrounded by "Camp Lazlo", "My Gym Partner's a Monkey", "The Grim Adventures of Billy and Mandy", and "Hi Hi Puffy AmiYumi". What's your opinion?
It's incredibly hard to say. What network would you suggest and how do you think they would do it different? While I have my personal opinions- both good and bad about the network/shows, I do see that everyone I know is constantlly trying their hardest. You would be amazed by all the obstacles everyone is faced with-- production, programming, on-air, EVERYBODY. Also, as an avid TV watcher myself, I don't see ANY kids network who's doing it perfectly. Everyone has their ideas about how stuff should be done, but I swear, it's a totally different story once you're the one facing it. (I do hate those half-screen ads though...)
How long does it take to make an episode of the show?
I heard that Tom Kane (one of the Voice Actors on the show) records most of his dialogue in New York. Does he ever come out to L.A. to record any dialogue on Fosters?
About 6 months from beginning to end, but we start a new one every 3 weeks. Tom Kane, though he used to be based in LA, has moved with his family to the midwest. He has an in-home recording studio and we record him over the internet. I'm not sure exactly how it works, I just know I'm in the booth and his voice is coming out of a speaker.
A question or 2 for Lauren and Craig.
1. Will Duchness and Bendy finally cause so much trouble that they are expelled or killed off.
2. Will the other Friends like (Wilt,Eduardo,Coco be adoted and move off and new characters come in to take their place.
3. Will there ever be that Mac and Goo really have a boyfriend -girlfriend relationship.
Thank You.:)
1. No. I don't think Standards and Practices will sign off on killing.
2. Probably not.
3. No. They're just friends
Does Frankie live at the home or alone?
I hope this isn't a dumb question but did Frankie create Coco? I ask this because it seems she can understand Coco.
What do you think of the direction CN has been going in the last year and a half?*
Is there any chance we'll see a crossover between another CN show and yours? I'm not too fond of crossovers but I read in Toon Zone's Comic-Con article that a crossover between two CN originals is going to happen soon.
What types of Foster's toys are coming from Mattel? Will there be a Cheese plushie?
What animation oriented sites do you two enjoy?*If this question would get you guys in trouble, then don't answer it.
-Frankie lives in the home- after all, it is her Gramma's house.
-It's not a dumb question, but no.
-I think they're still working out their direction. But I'm disappointed they don't want girls programming.
-I doubt there will be a crossover, but you never know.
-I'm afraid I'm not at liberty to say.
-Cartoon Brew is my favorite
Will we ever meet Goo's parents? We heard so much about them in Go Goo Go and I'm curious about what they might actually be like.
I originally wrote them in the opening sequence of Go Goo Go, but realized they weren't accomplishing anything plot-wise. If we ever have need for them, we'll show them, but there are no plans to, per se...
Today I noticed something about Mr. Herriman:
When it comes to very minor things (such as the placement of tent pins) he has super-sight, but when it comes to very obvious things (such as the fake Eduardo) he's short-sighted.
Was this bit of irony intentional?
Not really. Honestly, we just write what is funny for the scene.
Mac: So none of those Santas were real?
Frankie: As real as my great aunt Fanny.
Was that a cosmetic surgery joke?
No. We just couldn't directly have Frankie say there was no Santa. Plus, I wrote a joke that got cut immediately afterwards. Right after Frankie said that, Mac ran up to Mme. Foster and asked her if she had a sister named Fanny. She said "Good Heavens, no!" To which Mac was relieved, until she said "Her name was Tookus." It wasn't a very good joke, it's probably better it got cut.
Why did'nt Herriman do anything in Emacipation Complication when Frankie told him about Abe's plot?
"Because he's the President and we should support him in all his decisions! harumph!"
I've got one. What caused Bloo to change? He was good natured in the first few episodes but then suddenly became your cliche jerk character.
It was just the natural, unintential evolution of the character. I'm sorry you feel he is a cliche. We try to make him oblivious to his jerkiness, and therefore innocent in a way, to soften him, but I guess it doesn't work for a lot of people.
Does Frankie have any imaginary friends?
Maybilly, maybilly notilly....
She imagined the scribbles, remember?
She didn't, actually. Pitbullady has the correct assessment.
Did I miss anybody???
I.R Joey
12-07-2006, 05:16 PM
Wow, thanks again for the info.
Super Sonic
12-10-2006, 12:10 AM
Being a big fan of Keith Ferguson's work as Bloo, I just gotta ask:
when did you first start to notice Keith giving Bloo a higher pitch, and what did you say? Did you just shrug off the new take, or did you tell him to keep using the voice?
One Radical Dude
12-10-2006, 02:16 AM
Being a big fan of Keith Ferguson's work as Bloo, I just gotta ask:
when did you first start to notice Keith giving Bloo a higher pitch, and what did you say? Did you just shrug off the new take, or did you tell him to keep using the voice?
A lot of it has to do with the evolution of Keith's voice, really. It's how it is for a lot of voice-overs. Another fine example would be Dan Castellaneta's role as Homer Simpson from "The Simpsons." (just listen to his voice in the earliest episodes, and look at the later episodes. I'm not sure if Lauren or any of the other crew members would agree (or anyone here for that matter), but I don't really notice the changes of a character's voice until I look back at the earliest episodes, and you think, "whoa, this character sounded so much different back then."
Anyway, if my response isn't good enough, Lauren will give you a better one. :cool:
Jerry Mouse
12-11-2006, 12:31 AM
I think that it's cool how both Craig and Lauren take the time to read the forum and answer all our questions. I don't have anything to ask right now but it's good to know that if I have any I can post them here and get an answer right from people involved with the show. Craig and Lauren, keep up the wonderful work with Foster's! I 'm a big fan and appreciate the efforts you two (and everybody else for that matter!) put into the show.
Ahiru-kun
12-11-2006, 01:55 AM
It was just the natural, unintential evolution of the character. I'm sorry you feel he is a cliche. We try to make him oblivious to his jerkiness, and therefore innocent in a way, to soften him, but I guess it doesn't work for a lot of people.
Don't get me wrong. I love Bloo.
judyindisguise
12-11-2006, 12:09 PM
It was just the natural, unintential evolution of the character. I'm sorry you feel he is a cliche. We try to make him oblivious to his jerkiness, and therefore innocent in a way, to soften him, but I guess it doesn't work for a lot of people.
I think the problem might be that Bloo seems too selfish to believably be a friend that a nice guy like Mac would imagine. It doesn't seem likely, for some reason. You seem to be striving for a contrast in personalities, in order to make Mac and Bloo interesting as a pair, but I gotta tell ya...when Bloo ditched Mac in a recent episode, that was the limit for me. Thank goodness you have other characters I really enjoy, like Frankie (she's the best!), wonderfully wistful Wilt, Coco (who would have thought a character who only spouts one word could develop such a great personality???), and Eduardo, who I'm a fan of now thanks to his backstory in the excellent "Good Wilt Hunting". Really, Bloo is my only complaint about the show. But he's not a deal-killer. :)
One Radical Dude
12-11-2006, 03:21 PM
I think the problem might be that Bloo seems too selfish to believably be a friend that a nice guy like Mac would imagine. It doesn't seem likely, for some reason. You seem to be striving for a contrast in personalities, in order to make Mac and Bloo interesting as a pair, but I gotta tell ya...when Bloo ditched Mac in a recent episode, that was the limit for me. Thank goodness you have other characters I really enjoy, like Frankie (she's the best!), wonderfully wistful Wilt, Coco (who would have thought a character who only spouts one word could develop such a great personality???), and Eduardo, who I'm a fan of now thanks to his backstory in the excellent "Good Wilt Hunting". Really, Bloo is my only complaint about the show. But he's not a deal-killer. :)
Are you referring to what happened in "Make Believe-It Or Not" about the ditching?
judyindisguise
12-11-2006, 06:38 PM
Are you referring to what happened in "Make Believe-It Or Not" about the ditching?
Yes, that's the name of the episode.
One Radical Dude
12-12-2006, 12:36 AM
Yes, that's the name of the episode.
I don't look at it as ditching (come on, you can't say that you wouldn't have worried about yourself alone, if you were in Bloo's place in that episode. Most people would have done the same thing). If what Bloo did was really ditching Mac, you have to admit Mac did the same to Bloo in "Challenge of the Superfriends", yet I didn't hear anyone say the same thing. Neither of those moments bothered me in any way.
judyindisguise
12-12-2006, 02:57 AM
I don't look at it as ditching (come on, you can't say that you wouldn't have worried about yourself alone, if you were in Bloo's place in that episode. Most people would have done the same thing). If what Bloo did was really ditching Mac, you have to admit Mac did the same to Bloo in "Challenge of the Superfriends", yet I didn't hear anyone say the same thing. Neither of those moments bothered me in any way.
Well, Mac saw it as ditching (he even used the word). And I hope I wouldn't ditch a friend who needed my help. :shrug:
As for Mac ditching Bloo in "Superfriends", yeah, he did, and no, it didn't bother me either, and why? Because Bloo is a self-absorbed pain in the neck. Because of that fact, it was wonderfully satisfying to see Bloo suffer a little, not to mention the fact that Bloo's actions revealed that he apparently cares enough about Mac to get jealous when someone else monopolizes him. That was news to me. Mac, on the other hand, is a nice guy, and seeing him get deserted (or unfairly blamed for a trip to Europe getting cancelled, if I may digress a little) doesn't come off as funny to me - only unfair. And this harks back to a discussion some of us here have been having over why oh WHY so many cartoon producers think it's funny when innocent characters get pain they don't deserve. The conclusion we reached is that it's supposed to be ironic, but all to often it comes across as obnoxious. And that, FWIW, is how Bloo ditching Mac came across to me.
One Radical Dude
12-12-2006, 06:26 AM
Well, Mac saw it as ditching (he even used the word). And I hope I wouldn't ditch a friend who needed my help. :shrug:
As for Mac ditching Bloo in "Superfriends", yeah, he did, and no, it didn't bother me either, and why? Because Bloo is a self-absorbed pain in the neck. Because of that fact, it was wonderfully satisfying to see Bloo suffer a little, not to mention the fact that Bloo's actions revealed that he apparently cares enough about Mac to get jealous when someone else monopolizes him. That was news to me. Mac, on the other hand, is a nice guy, and seeing him get deserted (or unfairly blamed for a trip to Europe getting cancelled, if I may digress a little) doesn't come off as funny to me - only unfair. And this harks back to a discussion some of us here have been having over why oh WHY so many cartoon producers think it's funny when innocent characters get pain they don't deserve. The conclusion we reached is that it's supposed to be ironic, but all to often it comes across as obnoxious. And that, FWIW, is how Bloo ditching Mac came across to me.
Oh, come on, judy. That wasn't even Bloo's worst. :p What happened on MBION was quite benign, compared to some of his antics from some of the past episodes. He's been less of a pain in this past season (which was four) than the third (at least). What do you want -- the crew to make Bloo a total angel?
Guess what? Just because one is nice doesn't mean things are always gonna be good. I'm considered a nice guy, but things do happen to me, too -- things that are unpleasant. Would it make any difference, if Mac was a really mean boy? I respect the fact that you didn't like the way the ending of FGTE was handled, however, I'm sure I would have been angry or upset, too, if I had missed my flight to Europe. I bet most people would. What about Eduardo? What about Frankie? Wilt? Coco? Bad things have happened to the, too, do they get the same treatment? :p
Anyway, I'm sorry you feel that way about Bloo. I don't agree with everything he's done, either, but I don't complain about him getting beaten up or ditched. Also, you have to understand that the crew isn't trying to hurt anyone's feelings.
Anyway, I'm done for the time being.
judyindisguise
12-12-2006, 10:05 AM
Oh, come on, judy. That wasn't even Bloo's worst. :p What happened on MBION was quite benign, compared to some of his antics from some of the past episodes. He's been less of a pain in this past season (which was four) than the third (at least). What do you want -- the crew to make Bloo a total angel?
Guess what? Just because one is nice doesn't mean things are always gonna be good. I'm considered a nice guy, but things do happen to me, too -- things that are unpleasant. Would it make any difference, if Mac was a really mean boy? I respect the fact that you didn't like the way the ending of FGTE was handled, however, I'm sure I would have been angry or upset, too, if I had missed my flight to Europe. I bet most people would. What about Eduardo? What about Frankie? Wilt? Coco? Bad things have happened to the, too, do they get the same treatment? :p
Anyway, I'm sorry you feel that way about Bloo. I don't agree with everything he's done, either, but I don't complain about him getting beaten up or ditched. Also, you have to understand that the crew isn't trying to hurt anyone's feelings.
Anyway, I'm done for the time being.
You're taking this more seriously than I am, I think. ;) Like I said, while I don't find Bloo funny or likeable, he's not a deterrent to the enjoyment I get from Foster's. So don't worry about any hurt feelings on my part. And I didn't say I wanted Bloo to be an "angel". There are some negative characters I do enjoy - Cartman on South Park, for instance. He's not likeable either (and of course he's far worse than Bloo), but he's funny - partly because he almost always receives a comeuppance for his behavior. Because we do live in a world where bad things sometimes happen to good people (which, BTW, is seldom regarded by most people as being funny), it's a pleasure to see bad things happen to bad people for a change. Even if it's just in a cartoon. And now I'm done too.
Cityslicker
12-13-2006, 09:12 PM
Why is Bloo such a selfish blob when he was raised by Mac, an awesome kid??
Ahiru-kun
12-13-2006, 11:03 PM
Why is Bloo such a selfish blob when he was raised by Mac, an awesome kid??
It Herriman's fault. He has so many rules that Bloo cannot not break them. So he decided to be a complete rule breaker.
Freedom Fighter
12-14-2006, 12:46 AM
Why is Bloo such a selfish blob when he was raised by Mac, an awesome kid??I think someone here awhile back pegged them as opposites... Mac's id to Bloo's ego. I think that's what it was... darn, why can't I remember stuff from AP Psychology class all those years ago?
Most of the friends usually have the same characteristics as their creators. Bloo, on the other hand, is the opposite of Mac. Bloo would do most of the wild and annoying stuff that had been repressed in Mac's mind... not that Mac doesn't do abnormal, he has had stints. But Bloo is the side of Mac that always craves for attention, does thing regardless of what anyone else thinks, and other stuff like that.
I.R Joey
12-14-2006, 01:00 AM
I think someone here awhile back pegged them as opposites... Mac's id to Bloo's ego. I think that's what it was... darn, why can't I remember stuff from AP Psychology class all those years ago?
Most of the friends usually have the same characteristics as their creators. Bloo, on the other hand, is the opposite of Mac. Bloo would do most of the wild and annoying stuff that had been repressed in Mac's mind... not that Mac doesn't do abnormal, he has had stints. But Bloo is the side of Mac that always craves for attention, does thing regardless of what anyone else thinks, and other stuff like that.
I think the creators put it best during the Comic-con panel. If Mac didn't have Bloo he'd never leave his room and talk to anybody. If Bloo didn't have Mac he'd destroy the world.
But Bloo being Mac's id is what I've believed for a long time. I can just never understand why people don't like Bloo being selfish. It's part of who he is.
Voxxyn
12-14-2006, 08:24 AM
Lauren,
Before I begin, let me start by saying that I respect all of you immensely, and think that you have done a wonderful job with the show in general. Good Wilt Hunting was very wonderful and worth all the hype, and I'm pulling for Season 5 to reach the same high standards of Season 4.
But for once and for all, I must ask this: Why oh WHY did Frankie have to suffer to such an extreme extent in "Imposter's Home"?!?
I don't consider myself one of those people who "want the characters to hold hands and always be happy". I grew up preferring Looney Tunes and The Simpsons over pre-kindergarten/educational shows, so please don't write me off as a treehugging sissy when it comes to cartoon. I think the "Frankie being put in unpleasant situations" concept can be hilarious when done right, like in Busted, Bloooo(a really underrated episode), Crime After Crime and The Big Cheese.
What happened to Frankie in Imposter's Home wasn't funny or entertaining. It was one of the cruelest things I've ever seen on a children's cartoon; in fact, I think it's the very epitome of the "innocent characters being screwed" philosophy. I don't see what was so funny about Frankie missing the concert, even after all the unreasonable amount of extra work she did thanks to that mooching jerk named Goofball. Neither did I see the humor in how Frankie received absolutely no payback and how Goofball didn't get any comeuppance for being so reckless and inconsiderate. As a Frankie fan, it was just painful and disheartening.
And I've read your response on the episode's Talkback Thread. I'm sorry, but it didn't make me feel any better at all. It doesn't make sense at all that you would talk about the show wouldn't be so funny if "Frankie was 100% happy and always got her way", when it was the exact opposite that happened--in spite of the fact that Frankie is ALREADY very underappreciated and sympathetic. You're right about conflict in general--but I like to think there's more to conflict than the completely unfair and one-sided situation that her day with Goofball was. Foster's usually gets conflict right to a T. This wasn't the case at all.
This episode, more than any other, is the low point of Foster's for me. Some others have had upsetting moments, but nowhere near the extent of this one. I truly hope that the next Frankie episode will be more like Frankie My Dear or Setting A President, and that there will never again be another episode on the magnitude of Imposter's.
Again, I am genuinely appreciative of the hard work and talent that goes into the show. If you think I'm a loser or inconsiderate jerk for feeling this way about Goofball and his episode, that's fine. But that's still how I honestly feel.
Thanks for reading,
Voxxyn
Wussycat
12-14-2006, 08:47 AM
I'm probably going to get some hate mail for saying this, but I didn't really mind what Frankie went through. She shouldn't have jumped to conclusions.
But I do agree that Goofball should have gotten his comeuppance for being a total jerkass.
judyindisguise
12-14-2006, 11:30 AM
What happened to Frankie in Imposter's Home wasn't funny or entertaining. It was one of the cruelest things I've ever seen on a children's cartoon; in fact, I think it's the very epitome of the "innocent characters being screwed" philosophy. I don't see what was so funny about Frankie missing the concert, even after all the unreasonable amount of extra work she did thanks to that mooching jerk named Goofball. Neither did I see the humor in how Frankie received absolutely no payback and how Goofball didn't get any comeuppance for being so reckless and inconsiderate. As a Frankie fan, it was just painful and disheartening.
And I've read your response on the episode's Talkback Thread. I'm sorry, but it didn't make me feel any better at all. It doesn't make sense at all that you would talk about the show wouldn't be so funny if "Frankie was 100% happy and always got her way", when it was the exact opposite that happened--in spite of the fact that Frankie is ALREADY very underappreciated and sympathetic. You're right about conflict in general--but I like to think there's more to conflict than the completely unfair and one-sided situation that her day with Goofball was. Foster's usually gets conflict right to a T. This wasn't the case at all.
This episode, more than any other, is the low point of Foster's for me. Some others have had upsetting moments, but nowhere near the extent of this one. I truly hope that the next Frankie episode will be more like Frankie My Dear or Setting A President, and that there will never again be another episode on the magnitude of Imposter's.
Again, I am genuinely appreciative of the hard work and talent that goes into the show. If you think I'm a loser or inconsiderate jerk for feeling this way about Goofball and his episode, that's fine. But that's still how I honestly feel.
Thanks for reading,
Voxxyn
Well, now I have to agree with this. The way that Foster's will sometimes victimize the innocent is one of the show's few flaws. And it's not that I think it's morally outrageous or any junk like that - it's just that it's not funny. I like Frankie, but then I also like Spongebob and he gets roughed up a lot on his show, and I usually find that hilarious. I guess it's the way it's written. For example, there's a Spongebob episode where this bully tells him without any provocation whatsoever that he's going to "kick your butt!" And Spongebob is understandably terrified and tries everything to stop the bully, to no avail. Now, if the bully had succeeded in beating Spongebob up, that wouldn't have been funny IMO; but what actually happened was that Spongebob was able to (literally) absorb the bully's blows without harm. But here's where the irony comes in: the bully becomes so exhausted trying to beat Spongebob up he collapses, just as Mrs. Puff enters the room and sees the bully lying at Spongebob's feet. She then cries "Spongebob! I can't believe you beat up the new student! I'm going to kick your butt!" So Spongebob, the innocent party, gets victimized again and yet it's funny because it's truly ironic - as opposed to the forced faux irony present in so many toons right now (the worst offender probably being FOP). So that's why I think Frankie or Mac being victimized via the assumption that's it's ironic because they don't deserve it is a flawed assumption. There was nothing ironic in Frankie's plight; it was just mean.
Lauren,
Before I begin, let me start by saying that I respect all of you immensely, and think that you have done a wonderful job with the show in general. Good Wilt Hunting was very wonderful and worth all the hype, and I'm pulling for Season 5 to reach the same high standards of Season 4.
But for once and for all, I must ask this: Why oh WHY did Frankie have to suffer to such an extreme extent in "Imposter's Home"?!?
I don't consider myself one of those people who "want the characters to hold hands and always be happy". I grew up preferring Looney Tunes and The Simpsons over pre-kindergarten/educational shows, so please don't write me off as a treehugging sissy when it comes to cartoon. I think the "Frankie being put in unpleasant situations" concept can be hilarious when done right, like in Busted, Bloooo(a really underrated episode), Crime After Crime and The Big Cheese.
What happened to Frankie in Imposter's Home wasn't funny or entertaining. It was one of the cruelest things I've ever seen on a children's cartoon; in fact, I think it's the very epitome of the "innocent characters being screwed" philosophy. I don't see what was so funny about Frankie missing the concert, even after all the unreasonable amount of extra work she did thanks to that mooching jerk named Goofball. Neither did I see the humor in how Frankie received absolutely no payback and how Goofball didn't get any comeuppance for being so reckless and inconsiderate. As a Frankie fan, it was just painful and disheartening.
And I've read your response on the episode's Talkback Thread. I'm sorry, but it didn't make me feel any better at all. It doesn't make sense at all that you would talk about the show wouldn't be so funny if "Frankie was 100% happy and always got her way", when it was the exact opposite that happened--in spite of the fact that Frankie is ALREADY very underappreciated and sympathetic. You're right about conflict in general--but I like to think there's more to conflict than the completely unfair and one-sided situation that her day with Goofball was. Foster's usually gets conflict right to a T. This wasn't the case at all.
This episode, more than any other, is the low point of Foster's for me. Some others have had upsetting moments, but nowhere near the extent of this one. I truly hope that the next Frankie episode will be more like Frankie My Dear or Setting A President, and that there will never again be another episode on the magnitude of Imposter's.
Again, I am genuinely appreciative of the hard work and talent that goes into the show. If you think I'm a loser or inconsiderate jerk for feeling this way about Goofball and his episode, that's fine. But that's still how I honestly feel.
Thanks for reading,
Voxxyn
Well, now I have to agree with this. The way that Foster's will sometimes victimize the innocent is one of the show's few flaws. And it's not that I think it's morally outrageous or any junk like that - it's just that it's not funny. I like Frankie, but then I also like Spongebob and he gets roughed up a lot on his show, and I usually find that hilarious. I guess it's the way it's written. For example, there's a Spongebob episode where this bully tells him without any provocation whatsoever that he's going to "kick your butt!" And Spongebob is understandably terrified and tries everything to stop the bully, to no avail. Now, if the bully had succeeded in beating Spongebob up, that wouldn't have been funny IMO; but what actually happened was that Spongebob was able to (literally) absorb the bully's blows without harm. But here's where the irony comes in: the bully becomes so exhausted trying to beat Spongebob up he collapses, just as Mrs. Puff enters the room and sees the bully lying at Spongebob's feet. She then cries "Spongebob! I can't believe you beat up the new student! I'm going to kick your butt!" So Spongebob, the innocent party, gets victimized again and yet it's funny because it's truly ironic - as opposed to the forced faux irony present in so many toons right now (the worst offender probably being FOP). So that's why I think Frankie or Mac being victimized via the assumption that's it's ironic because they don't deserve it is a flawed assumption. There was nothing ironic in Frankie's plight; it was just mean.Actually, and as predictable as the episode was, Frankie deserved EVERYTHING that happened to her in "Imposter's Home..."
J. B. Warner
12-14-2006, 01:34 PM
Actually, and as predictable as the episode was, Frankie deserved EVERYTHING that happened to her in "Imposter's Home..."
At the risk of receiving yet another cripplingly embarrassing dressing-down from you (Lord knows I'm used to it by now)...
Is it some kind of rule that you have to disagree with everyone on everything?
At the risk of receiving yet another cripplingly embarrassing dressing-down from you (Lord knows I'm used to it by now)...
Is it some kind of rule that you have to disagree with everyone on everything?By "everyone" you mean you and 3 other people, and by "everything" you mean topics regarding Fosters and Looney Tunes?
Because if so, no.
Regarding my earlier comment here: I've stated many times I'm no fan of Fosters, however "Imposter's Home..." was an episode I truly liked. It was funny, well written (even though I saw the ending coming a mile away) and the characters were all pretty much spot-on.
But see, while Frankie had every right to be suspicious of Goofball, she still went out of her line to try to prove he wasn't an imaginary friend. Even though Goofball did come out as a jerk in a couple of moments, particularly when he reveals Frankie's disguise (I didn't kinda get that part, what was Frankie trying to prove? It was all going to eventually explode on her, and it did), Goofball never did anything wrong. He never lied. It was Frankie who was all over him throughout the whole episode trying to prove something he wasn't. And guess what? Frankie was WRONG. I'm glad the episode ended like that, because it justified everything bad that happened to Frankie. She got punished in every sort of way, why? Because she started the conflict.
And can you really blame it on Goofball? It's not his fault he was imagined that way. Frankie should know better that it's more than possible that an imaginary friend can look human, or did she forget about the Prince from that early episode where she goes on a date?
The only part that bugged me about the episode was the "Phone Home" scene. If Goofball wasn't lying, why was he so nervous when Frankie asked him to call his owner? Seriously, that didn't make any sense, and it was enough for me to shift the episode grade from an A to a B+.
One last thing: if it would've turned out that Goofball was really an imposter, I wouldn't have liked the episode at all, since both Frankie and Goofball would've come off as jerks.
Wussycat
12-14-2006, 03:14 PM
The only part that bugged me about the episode was the "Phone Home" scene. If Goofball wasn't lying, why was he so nervous when Frankie asked him to call his owner?
Maybe it's because he'd feel guilty about costing them a non-local call, or he forgot the number, or he didn't know the area number for Canada?
Ahiru-kun
12-14-2006, 05:09 PM
I feel a need to defend Bloo.
He's not a complete jerk. He does have a soft side. He's just too impulsive and obsessive. When he realizes he's done something very bad he tries to fix it like when it took Bloo's own card to realize what a jerk he was to Coco. He should be shown sympathy in the fact that when he does try to fix something it just gets worse for him (Beat with a Schtick, Sweet Stench of Success, Challenge of the Superfriends, & Bloo's the Boss.)
It's not just Frankie and Mac. A lot of the characters get wronged some time or other. Wilt missed his game and Terrence even though he's a jerk was wrongfully grounded.
I.R Joey
12-14-2006, 05:14 PM
I'm starting to wonder what I should take from of these sort of responses. I don't want to upset people with our stories, but I don't want to write stories about everybody getting along, holding hands and skipping down the lane, either. Conflict is more interesting than.. well, non-conflict. Will people be more satisfied if Frankie is content with her crappy job and everyone appreciates her hard work? Would it be more fun to watch Mr. Herriman ask her to do things nicely and thank her at the end of the day? Would it be better to guide everyone to the predictable ending and then give it to them? I personally don't believe so, but from the looks of things I might be wrong.
I'd like to reiterate that we never sit down in our writer's meetings and try to come up with stories that upset people. We try to come up with stuff that we think is funny. Some people agree with us, and others don't. We have discovered that there are shows that we LOVE that fans seem to hate (Squeakerboxxx) and some that we HATE that fans seem to like (Sight For Sore Eyes.) We're just taking our best guesses, you know?
And BTW- I like to offer up my pathetic excuse for SFSE-- it was one of those shows that suffered from extensive notes and several re-writes and a schedule that didn't allow us to throw it out or do it over. That's a factor in TV animation production that lots of fans seem to forget about.
-LF
Lauren wrote this during the Imposter's talkback. I think it's a pretty good answer.
Here's the rest of the thread.
http://forums.toonzone.net/showthread.php?t=150089
judyindisguise
12-14-2006, 06:58 PM
I feel a need to defend Bloo.
He's not a complete jerk. He does have a soft side. He's just too impulsive and obsessive. When he realizes he's done something very bad he tries to fix it like when it took Bloo's own card to realize what a jerk he was to Coco. He should be shown sympathy in the fact that when he does try to fix something it just gets worse for him (Beat with a Schtick, Sweet Stench of Success, Challenge of the Superfriends, & Bloo's the Boss.)
It's not just Frankie and Mac. A lot of the characters get wronged some time or other. Wilt missed his game and Terrence even though he's a jerk was wrongfully grounded.
I think all that is true, but then we get back to the point of "is a good-guy character being wronged automatically funny"? In the episodes discussed here, I don't think it is - just my opinion. In fact the only episode in which an innocent is wrongly accused and the situation is funny IMO is the "Everyone Knows It's Bendy" episode. I enjoyed that because as I've said before, Bendy out-Bloo'd Bloo - Bendy was even jerkier than Bloo normally is and Bloo was confounded. I got a kick out of it (did Lauren really apologize for that ep? If so, my response is "Why?" and "Wow". She is class IMO, although I hardly think she needed to. In fact I can think of a few other toon producers who are far more in need of making such a gesture to their viewers - but I digress). Bendy was a hilarious modern-day Eddie Haskell (of Leave It To Beaver) and that's another reason I enjoyed the ep. Plus, even though he didn't receive his full comeuppance, he got pretty freaked out by Bloo's scheme to expose him, so he did get a little grief and that was satisfying too.
Perhaps it's important to remember that the Foster's crew has created a unique, original concept that does not rely on stale formulas, put-down humor or pop culture references to earn its laughs. So it's got to be a harder-than-usual show to write. I respect and admire the heck out of all the artists behind the show. I'm honestly just trying to express one tiny element that has bothered me while watching the series, and I hope those of the show's crew who are nice enough to chat with their fans here understand that we are not dissing them. I for one am grateful that they are listening at all. And I'm looking forward to the next new episode of Foster's. May there be many more. :)
Kury Wagner
12-14-2006, 07:05 PM
Maybe this has been answered, but I'd like to know-- Where is Mac's father? Did you guys ever have backstory planned for that or was it just another "no, it's not there, deal with it"-part of the show's plot?
NeitherSparky
12-14-2006, 07:19 PM
Perhaps all this is why I tend to choose characters that are *meant* to be abused as my favorites. After all, it'd be pretty darn pointless for me to complain that Terrence gets no respect. :D
Wussycat
12-15-2006, 04:11 PM
Did I miss anybody???
You missed these:
Does every minor imaginary friend in the home have a name?
What is the cute, pink bear/dragon thing's name?
I.R Joey
12-16-2006, 01:23 AM
Maybe this has been answered, but I'd like to know-- Where is Mac's father? Did you guys ever have backstory planned for that or was it just another "no, it's not there, deal with it"-part of the show's plot?
That is a really good question.
NeitherSparky
12-16-2006, 03:52 AM
At one time I was convinced they'd never touch either the story about Mac's father or the deal with Wilt's injuries - I just felt they wouldn't somehow. But then, you know...they did, for Wilt. So NOW I think that they may in fact tell us at some point, though it may not happen until the series finale or something. I just hope if they do they handle Terrence reasonably - despite the fact that he's pretty much there for comic relief, the kid lost his father too.
And I admit I also would really like to know the name of the pink bear with the little bat wings. I dunno why, I just really want to know! :anime:
Ykwia
12-16-2006, 06:00 AM
I think someone here awhile back pegged them as opposites... Mac's id to Bloo's ego. I think that's what it was... darn, why can't I remember stuff from AP Psychology class all those years ago?
Most of the friends usually have the same characteristics as their creators. Bloo, on the other hand, is the opposite of Mac. Bloo would do most of the wild and annoying stuff that had been repressed in Mac's mind... not that Mac doesn't do abnormal, he has had stints. But Bloo is the side of Mac that always craves for attention, does thing regardless of what anyone else thinks, and other stuff like that.
But during the 1st season, He was not a prankster nor a trouble maker, And during the start of the 2nd season, He begins to change.
and were wondering whatever did happen to his mother, And why doesn't she have a face and notice everything that's going on, Didn't she notice those pictures on the counter?
and whatever did happen to his father, Can we get a TV-Movie here describing his father?
One Radical Dude
12-16-2006, 06:53 AM
But during the 1st season, He was not a prankster nor a trouble maker, And during the start of the 2nd season, He begins to change.
I totally disagree. You may not have seen so much in the way of Bloo's antics in the first season as in others, but he has gotten into trouble even back then.
limel
12-16-2006, 10:38 AM
and were wondering whatever did happen to his mother, And why doesn't she have a face and notice everything that's going on, Didn't she notice those pictures on the counter?
For the first question: She doesn't appear too often, so they decided to not give her a face. It also adds to the comedy, like Ms. Bellum in PPG.
2. She was tired(at least I think)
PhantomZero
12-19-2006, 12:07 AM
For the first question: She doesn't appear too often, so they decided to not give her a face. It also adds to the comedy, like Ms. Bellum in PPG.
2. She was tired(at least I think)
Acutaly, I've never seen Mac's mother's face...They do that in some cartoons to make them a mystery possible.
My answer isn't as accurate though, because i'm not quite sure.
Ykwia
12-23-2006, 07:31 AM
and I'm wondering, How did Eduardo suddenly appear watching TV in "One False Movie" when the TV was originally off and How was he able to record the begining of the show when he was in the middle of it?
I'm curious to how this could be possible?
Super Sonic
12-23-2006, 01:59 PM
How old is Mac? Ever since that birthday ep, he's been listed as 9 years old on Wiki. And speaking of that ep, why didn't Mac's mom suspect something after seeing Bloo in Mac's house again for his "birthday" surprise? That has been bothering me for a long time.
pitbulllady
12-23-2006, 08:34 PM
How old is Mac? Ever since that birthday ep, he's been listed as 9 years old on Wiki. And speaking of that ep, why didn't Mac's mom suspect something after seeing Bloo in Mac's house again for his "birthday" surprise? That has been bothering me for a long time.
Mac is supposed to be eight. As he himself explained in that episode, "I Only Have Surprise For You", it was NOT his birthday, since Bloo never actually gave him a party on his birthday, therefore his birthday was the ONLY day out of the year when he was safe from having Bloo spring a surprise party on him! Trust Wikipedia to get it wrong AGAIN. That scene in which Bloo appears and is throwing a surprise party at Mac's house, with Mac's mom and brother present, was a flashback-a scene in which Mac was recalling something that happened BEFORE his mom gave Bloo the boot. Bloo's current party takes place entirely at Foster's.
pitbulllady
Super Sonic
12-24-2006, 09:14 PM
Thanks, I was pretty sure Mac is still eight, but I needed to hear it from another person. I feel a bit guilty, though. Like I'm wasting your time to answer my questions...:sweat:
Kagetsu
01-03-2007, 07:35 PM
When Goo first appears, what does she say that sounds like "jimbunny rucksack" and something about persimmons?
One Radical Dude
01-03-2007, 07:55 PM
Do you believe there's any chance of seeing the 2 min. shorts on a future DVD release (not necessarily the first season, but on any future releases)?
Zubby
01-19-2007, 12:46 AM
When will new episodes be airing?
When will the Foster's sadly neglected blog be updated?
Wussycat
03-10-2007, 10:14 PM
This isn't a question for the Foster's crew. This is for the other forum members.
Did anyone other than me notice the irony in My So-Called Wife? A crazy person was the only character to ever bring up the question of why the imaginary friends aren't invisible.
kaleb
03-10-2007, 11:27 PM
Hey- that was funny!!!
Wussycat
03-16-2007, 01:35 PM
Is it true that Eduardo has an American accent in the Latin American version?
Is it true that Eduardo has an American accent in the Latin American version?Yes. An EXTREMELY obvious one.
DenisAndrejev
04-11-2007, 09:30 AM
Is there any Fosters REAL website? And did you created other shows besides FhfiF??
limel
04-11-2007, 06:16 PM
Is there any Fosters REAL website? And did you created other shows besides FhfiF??
1. It depends on what you mean by real, but here is the production blog: http://fosterstv.blogspot.com/
2. Powerpuff Girls
One Radical Dude
04-12-2007, 07:34 PM
Is there any Fosters REAL website? And did you created other shows besides FhfiF??
Define REAL website. :p
Wussycat
06-16-2007, 12:51 AM
What happened to Mac's dad?
What happened to Frankie's parents?
Darklordavaitor
06-16-2007, 01:24 AM
If Craig and Lauren are still on the site, I would like to ask something:
1: Will we see any new friends on the show?
2: Any more plans for Cheese or Goo?
3: Who would be each members favorite character on the show(including yourselves)?
4: If DVD sales for season 1 of your other series do well, would you consider a new DTV for it?
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