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Sisto Kid
01-22-2002, 03:26 PM
What little I have heard about the next "Harvey Birdman: Attorney At Law" episode, is it has to do with Shaggy from Scooby Doo getting busted for "Possession". LMAO!!!!

Now what I'd like to know is, is Casey Kasem gonna do Shaggy's voice for this, or has he pretty much written off ever doing Shaggy's voice again in ANY context?

Also, I'm surprised Hanna-Barbera hasn't screamed bloody murder about this, you know, "now look here, it's one thing to breathe life into Birdman and Space Ghost, two of our lower-tier characters, but Scooby Doo and the characters therin are as sacred to us as Mickey Mouse is to Disney! NO!!! A THOUSAND TIMES, NO!!!" Or something as EQUALLY laughable.

Anyhoo, does anyone know if/when this episode is airing, and all the details thereof?

Thanx,

Sisto Kid

whiteid
01-22-2002, 03:43 PM
i have no idea, but man I want to see it

Killtacular
01-22-2002, 03:51 PM
Jimmy Fallon provides the voice Shaggy in HB:AAL. Hopefully Fallon knows what he's doing. I hate SNL rejects thinking they know how to impersonate a character.

Sisto Kid
01-22-2002, 04:10 PM
Yeah, Matt, I agree. The only thing worse is SNL rejects thinking that their OWN SNL character is funny enough to sustain a whole movie.

Too bad Casey's not doing it though. However, I understand why he doesn't do Shaggy anymore. The guy is what, 68? Kinda hard impersonating a teenage stoner when you get to that age. (Although Frank Welker STILL does a kick-ass job of Freddie Jones)




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Sora Takenouchi
01-22-2002, 04:21 PM
How come they didn't get Scott Innes? That's the current voice of Shaggy, right?

Sisto Kid
01-22-2002, 04:51 PM
Yes Sora, as a matter of fact he is! Not only that, but he's the current voice of Scooby, too. And his mentor/teacher was none other than the original Scooby Doo, Mr. Don Messick himself! (God Rest His Soul.)

As to why he's not doing Shaggy in HB:AAL, he either wasn't asked, or he WAS asked, he saw the script and turned it down out of respect for the character. Don't know for sure, but I'd bet it was either one of the two.

The Dork Knight
01-22-2002, 10:36 PM
Originally posted by Sisto Kid
Yeah, Matt, I agree. The only thing worse is SNL rejects thinking that their OWN SNL character is funny enough to sustain a whole movie.


Here, here. I would die if they made a movie about Mongo. Yuck....

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ccffan01
01-23-2002, 03:44 PM
I can't see them exsposing one of CN more popular shows main charechters to that. Especially since little kids love scooby and what if they watch this or somethin.

StrangerAtaru
01-23-2002, 03:50 PM
Well most kids don't really watch HB:AAL, so I think the parody would be OK. Nothing to really complain about. Besides, with many of the jokes done through innuendos (at least in the two eps we saw), things should sort themselves out.

Sisto Kid
01-23-2002, 05:00 PM
That's true, Stranger. Besides, since no one has really seen this episode yet, I don't think people should jump to conclusions.

The bottom line shouldn't be "Is CN messing with a sacred cow?" but rather, "Is it funny?"

I have this gut feeling it's gonna be a scream.


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LMAO!!!

ccffan01
01-23-2002, 07:34 PM
I think out of respect for William Hanna and Joe Barbera these episodes shouldn't air. I also have a gut instinct that they won't air. Also out of respect for the charechter they shouldn't air. It might be funny but its something that I just shouldn't happen. You might be surprised my 6 year old cousin somehow watches midnight run. Scooby is his favorite so what if he happens to see HB:aal I dont what him getting any ideas.

ohmrbill
01-23-2002, 08:03 PM
Well, he shouldn't be watching ADULT Swim, anyway. :rolleyes:

Using a well-known character like this is nothing new, guys. This is extremely tame compared to some of the stuff I've seen MadTV do with Rudolph, Wallace & Grommit, Paddington, and quite a few others.

ccffan01
01-23-2002, 08:51 PM
Yes I agree but i said midnight run. Still other kids might be watching.

livingfruitvirus
01-23-2002, 11:03 PM
Jimmy isn't a reject..................yet.

BTW, Birdman has had 2 voice actors within Williams Street, and a different one for On-Air. So that's 3 alone for CN. He's currently voiced by Gary Cole on HB:AAL.

One thing I notice about Harvey Birdman is they use their own cast, and don't borrow from previous shows. For example, they use Stephen Colbert (from The Daily Show) for the voice of Reducto, and coming soon is Michael McKean (from SNL) as the voice of Spyro. Same goes for minor characters. Hadji, Jonny and Dr. Zin were most recently voiced by Rob Paulsen, Quinton Flinn, and Clyde Kusatsu. HB:AAL used Dee Bradley Baker, Wally Wingert, and Billy West respectively.

Deltamon
01-24-2002, 03:34 PM
and coming soon is Michael McKean (from SNL) as the voice of Spyro


....time out. Spyro? As in Spyro the Dragon? Or is this another Spyro that I'm totally unfamiliar with?

pjfilmer
01-25-2002, 11:40 PM
[QUOTE]Originally posted by Sisto Kid
[Now what I'd like to know is, is Casey Kasem gonna do Shaggy's voice for this, or has he pretty much written off ever doing Shaggy's voice again in ANY context?}

-According to The Straight Dope, rumor has it that the reason Casey Kasem was let go was due to conflicts over script changes. When Casem became a vegetarian, he asked that Shaggy do the same. In the later Scooby Doo episodes, Shaggy doesn't eat meat. Hanna-Barbera agreed with Casem. When the direct to video movies came around, the script called for Shaggy to eat shrimp gumbo. Casem balked, and was fired. Warner Brothers now handles the Scooby Doo licensing, and may have influenced letting go the DJ. It's just an FYI, and it's just a rumor. http://www.straightdope.com/mailbag/mscooby.html

Killtacular
01-26-2002, 12:34 AM
I think out of respect for William Hanna and Joe Barbera these episodes shouldn't air. I also have a gut instinct that they won't air. Also out of respect for the charechter they shouldn't air.

Never before have I seen such a blatant example of "It's always funny until it's about you."

PUH-LEASE. If Barbera cared, there wouldn't have been The Scooby Doo Project, or Bravo-Dooby-Doo, or Big Game 27's Halftime show, or the Scooby ads that ran at late night.

Why does it matter WHAT show it makes fun of? Comedy is comedy. For example, I like the Powerpuff Girls, but I wouldn't care if they were the subject of a Birdman episode(though they won't). It would probably be a very funny episode.

hello_lola
01-27-2002, 01:39 AM
Am I the only one that finds the controversy of Shaggy's "reputation" somewhat ridiculous? I mean, really, he's not the Pope, or Ghandi, or Martin Luther King. Plus, everyone always assumed Shaggy was a pothead beatnik anyway, right?

Shaggy
01-27-2002, 08:20 AM
Originally posted by Matt Wilson
Why does it matter WHAT show it makes fun of? Comedy is comedy. For example, I like the Powerpuff Girls, but I wouldn't care if they were the subject of a Birdman episode(though they won't). It would probably be a very funny episode.

Tonight, on a very special Harvey Birdman...

Judge Mightor: The Court rules that Professor Utonium is an unfit father, and that the children be placed in the state's custody.

Professor Utonium: NOOOOOOOOO!!!!!

Harvey Birdman must defend a father's right to parent his genetic mutations...

Harvey Birdman: I ask of the court, if a man can't take sufficient care of his accidental creations, then damnit, what is he left with?[/b]

It will challenge your mind, and touch your heart. Harvey Birdman: Attorney At Law.

:D

Naraht
01-27-2002, 08:31 AM
Originally posted by Matt Wilson
Jimmy Fallon provides the voice Shaggy in HB:AAL. Hopefully Fallon knows what he's doing. I hate SNL rejects thinking they know how to impersonate a character.

Well, working for an NBC Station, I've heard Fallon's Shaggy...it's not THAT bad..

Sisto Kid
01-28-2002, 04:23 PM
Wow, didn't mean to start such a controversy with such a simple question about an episode of HB:AAL that none of us have even seen yet! My apologies to one and all! LOL!!!

But anyway, to answer some of the posts:

pjfilmer: wow, so THAT'S why Casey Kasem isn't doing Shaggy's voice anymore! Hmmm...makes sense. It also explains why he DID return to doing Shaggy for the one Johnny Bravo episode in 1998 called "Bravo Dooby Doo", because JB is a Hanna-Barbera cartoon and NOT a Warner Brothers thing! (well, technically, with Time-Warner owning the Cartoon Network, it IS, but you get my point) but yeah, even though it is mostly rumor, it wouldn't surprise me. Casey is such a staunch vegetarian, he makes Paul McCartney look like Ted Nugent! LOL

ccffan01, I understand your concerns And if the episode portrayed Shaggy as a crackhead or a pedophile or something, I would absoloutely totally agree with you. However, Matt Wilson has a point. And he echoes my own sentiments, i.e. "Will it be funny"? And as for your concern about other kids watching, remember: before every episode of Adult Swim, there is a disclaimer saying that children under 18 shouldn't be watching these shows at least without adult supervision.
After that, it's parents or the guardian's responsibility, not Cartoon Network's.

IMO, that's a part of why our society is so screwed up as it is...not because of what's on TV or radio, but because we feel we need to make laws rules and regulations for the minority of people who simply don't want to take responsibility for their own actions.

OK, I'm off my soapbox.

Sisto Kid

P.S. Shaggy
RE: "Special Powewrpuff episode of Harvey Birdman"...

ROFLMFAO!!!!!

ccffan01
01-28-2002, 05:23 PM
Well I have to see this episodes untill I can really judges if its in poor taste.

ohmrbill
01-28-2002, 06:01 PM
I don't think you have much to worry about. The other two episodes of Birdman were in could taste and they only implied naughty things about the characters. Stuff that would go right over most kids' heads.

Ccffan is right; we should wait until we see it before we judge whether or not it's in poor taste.

Sisto Kid
01-29-2002, 08:58 AM
Exactly what I've been saying all along, guys. This episode hasn't aired yet...let's not jump to conclusions.

ccffan01
01-29-2002, 04:41 PM
I think if Shaggys acquited even if he did do it. Everyone will be happy.