Google buys YouTube

[Mr. Manager]

Not too surprising. (http://msnbc.msn.com/id/15161201/)
I'm not so sure about someone buying YouTube. Although, with all the copyright infringement, News Corp or Google could easily be sued.


One particular part in the article stuck out:


In spite of intense interest, Chad Hurley, YouTube's co-founder and chief executive, said in an interview with the Financial Times two weeks ago that the company was not interested in putting itself up for sale.
"We're just going to continue to build the business on our own," he said. Mr Hurley said his strategy had the backing of YouTube's financiers at Sequoia Capital, the venture capital group that was also an early investor in Google.
I wonder if he will change his mind. If Google buys it, I'd expect it to be absorbed into Google Video, use YouTube's format, and then get rid of the YouTube name.
If News Corp buys it, I'd expect a whole lot of crossovers with their networks (for example, having some bi-monthly special titled something like "The Wonderful World of YouTube" on Fox or FX) and YouTube would probably be changed drasticly. I'd rather Google buy it than News Corp. Google would probably handle it better. After all look at what happened to TVTome when a cold corporation bought it.

[SirLemming]

I guess this is basically Google admitting defeat. YouTube pwned Google Video for sure. I hope they stay proud of that accomplishment but don't agree to the deal. They seem to be doing well enough on their own. Also, without a small degree of copyright infringement, YouTube will just not be what it is.

[The Guitar Slayer]

I'm cheering for google on this one. Murdoch and his corporation scare me. A lot.

[silverwings]

Rooting for google. I don't want *any* news source getting ahold of YouTube, particularly one as clearly biased and agenda'd as FoxNews.

[Tay the Cat]

After all look at what happened to TVTome when a cold corporation bought it.
Yeah, they improved it drastically.


As for this story, YouTube should resist any offers. It would be better for them.

[bigddan11]

Yeah, they improved it drastically.


As for this story, YouTube should resist any offers. It would be better for them.

Actually, it hasn't been improved by much, and TV.com has many more errors than TV Tome did.

I actually don't think either company will succeed here thanks to NBC's deal with YouTube.

[Tay the Cat]

Actually, it hasn't been improved by much, and TV.com has many more errors than TV Tome did.

At least TV.com is nice to look at.

Tome was an eyesore.

[Don_East]

Anyway I think NewsCorp should get it so it can be easier to put YouTube videos on MySpace.

Edit by Bird Boy: Don't even start with the politics.

[Michael24]

Actually, it hasn't been improved by much, and TV.com has many more errors than TV Tome did.

I had several shows/celebrity pages at TVTome that I was an editor on, and I loved working on them. When it switched to TV.com, I completely abandoned them. Tvtome was nice, simple, user-friendly. TV.com was a disgusting eyesore more complicated than it needed to be.


Rooting for google. I don't want *any* news source getting ahold of YouTube, particularly one as clearly biased and agenda'd as FoxNews.

Thanks. I always like to kick the week off with a great laugh.

[Beat]

YouTube should remain independent for now as its stock keeps going up. It's only going to get more sponsorships and more money from here on out. As for copyright infrigments, I remember reading about a copyright bot that automatically deletes copyrighted material on the site, but I doubt its effectiveness.

Let's face it, if YouTube didn't host half of the copyrighted material it did, there'd be a lot less interest.

[SirLemming]

Let's face it, if YouTube didn't host half of the copyrighted material it did, there'd be a lot less interest.
Definitely. I mean, I don't support having episodes of TV shows on there (not that I mind having episodes of abandoned shows like Sam & Max, or banned stuff, but I wouldn't fight for it). But there's a lot of fairly harmless stuff on there that would have to be removed for technical reasons if YouTube merged with one of these big companies. Sure, they'd try to counteract it by putting up stuff that they want to be available, but it wouldn't be the same.

[Paul_Cousins]

Rooting for google. I don't want *any* news source getting ahold of YouTube, particularly one as clearly biased and agenda'd as FoxNews.I hope it goes to Murdoch because at least Fox News is honest and open about it's political leanings unlike google which secertly slants is word searches to more left leaning websites.

[peacebyanymeans]

If NewsCorp bought it, I would expect it to be renamed "myTube" and merge with mySpace.

I fear that. I'd rather it merge with Google Video and take Google's name.

[Failure]

Just a reminder to please be wary of posting anything that might be considered flamebait (e.g., politics, Fox News, etc.). It's not a touchy topic now, but it could easily become one.

[Zorak Masaki]

I'm more excited about them negotiating to get EVERY MUSIC VIDEO ever onto youtube (and i dont just mean vids people taped off mtv or vh1 or muchmusic either).

[ShadowGUN]

You Tube belongs to Google now.
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20061009/ap_on_bi_ge/google_youtube

[Moto Pete]

http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=6209738


GOOGLE WINS by 1.65 billion

[clucky]

I just read a magzine article about YouTube when I was at the dentists
and everyones fighting over it and eventually someones gonna sue like crazy
but I dont wasnt You Tube to really change I dont see many problems with it
besides the copyright but I mean for the viewer but if anyones gonna buy it out it should be google why cause googles not that bad
and they won soooo woot woot google

[Beat]

http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=6209738


GOOGLE WINS by 1.65 billion

And we have another case of college kids with a smart idea...going off to Hawaii somewhere.

Um, now what?

[Mr. Manager]

I REALLY hope Google doesn't make people pay for videos like they do on Google Video. Although they'll probably merge Google Video and YouTube, use YouTube's format, but they'll probably make people pay for copyrighted material like with Google Video. :sad:

[Tay the Cat]

I REALLY hope Google doesn't make people pay for videos like they do on Google Video. Although they'll probably merge Google Video and YouTube, use YouTube's format, but they'll probably make people pay for copyrighted material like with Google Video. :sad:
According to both Google and YouTube, no rebranding or changes will happen.

[William C. Maune]

but they'll probably make people pay for copyrighted material like with Google Video. :sad:

Is that a bad thing? It costs someone to make that material.

[Draft]

dang

i really hope no rebranding happens, or you have to pay to view videoes

if google knows what its doing, just keep youtube, but basically copy all of the youtube videos onto google video, obviously seeding through what is copyrighted material and what is not

thoguh i hope not, because then where will i watch videos of south park, older bo-bobo, and eps of robot chicken i missed?

[Mr. Manager]

Is that a bad thing? It costs someone to make that material.Well, I'd reather those companies make money through ad revenue on a video site (ie. Jetstream) through YouTube. I wouldn't mind if they had ads before videos. As long as it keeps things free.

According to both Google and YouTube, no rebranding or changes will happen.So Google Video and YouTube will still be seprate sites? That's odd.

[Mr. Manager]

A Jeff Harris "What If" article about this would be great.

[Tay the Cat]

So Google Video and YouTube will still be seprate sites? That's odd.
The CNN article I read says that the decision will allow YouTube greater control over copy-protection of certain videos, among other things.

[Silly McGooses]

Do you suppose this could mean an end to the bootlegging on youtube? Like what happened to Guba when WB started selling movies on it?

[SirLemming]

And the world watched...

If Google's not careful about this, they could experience significant backlash. (Note that I say "significant" backlash because nerd backlash is guaranteed.)

Then again, some things really won't be up to them. That's the real problem. They're a big company and there are certain things they just can't allow, for the sake of precedent.

[Peter Paltridge]

Let's hope Google is being honest when it says it'll leave YouTube alone....when TVTome was bought out, shut down and replaced with a very weak ripoff, it was a tragedy.

[bigddan11]

It looks like while the sites will be kept seperate, there will be some slight rebranding occuring, or at least that's what this picture seems to indicate:
http://image.com.com/mp3/images/genie_images/gumballs/2006/g/googtube01_gumball.jpg (http://www.mp3.com/news/stories/4948.html)

[SirLemming]

It looks like while the sites will be kept seperate, there will be some slight rebranding occuring, or at least that's what this picture seems to indicate:
http://image.com.com/mp3/images/genie_images/gumballs/2006/g/googtube01_gumball.jpg (http://www.mp3.com/news/stories/4948.html)
That IS a joke, right?

[bigddan11]

That IS a joke, right?

No. That's an image posted at TV.com associated with this article, and it appears to be what they're going to call the MP3 download system.

[SirLemming]

No. That's an image posted at TV.com associated with this article, and it appears to be what they're going to call the MP3 download system.
...They're calling the MP3 download system "GoogTube Video"?

:confused:

[bigddan11]

...They're calling the MP3 download system "GoogTube Video"?

:confused:

Take a look for yourself: http://www.tv.com/story/story.html&story_id=6657?tag=gumballs;title;4&om_act=convert&click=gumballs

[SirLemming]

Maybe it's the late night of homework talking, but I don't see anything about an MP3 download service at all, let alone said MP3 service bizarrely being called "GoogTube Video".

[Zorak Masaki]

Heres the founders discussing the aquisition:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QCVxQ_3Ejkg

[Dudley]

I don't understand why Google's keeping both video sharing sites, when they only need one, which should be YouTube.
The only thing I don't understand 100% is what will happen to the copyrighted material on YouTube.

[Moto Pete]

Maybe GoogTUBE will buy Burger King ( It's For Sale)

[Moto Pete]

I don't understand why Google's keeping both video sharing sites, when they only need one, which should be YouTube.
The only thing I don't understand 100% is what will happen to the copyrighted material on YouTube.
I Think the same deal that they struck with CBS today( 10/9) where the will share reene if the Propety Owner want to keep it up. Will be signed with ABC, FOX, CW, NBC

ie: someone post a clip of CSI:NY on GoogTUBE or YOUtube then if CBS desides to allowit to remain then they get a % of the Ad Revene

[Swordfish_II]

It looks like while the sites will be kept seperate, there will be some slight rebranding occuring, or at least that's what this picture seems to indicate:
http://image.com.com/mp3/images/genie_images/gumballs/2006/g/googtube01_gumball.jpg (http://www.mp3.com/news/stories/4948.html)

That's something anyone could whip with with Photoshop and three minutes of free time.

[HellCat]

I can understand no-no to full episodes (though it's not exactly attractive anymore, since they took steps to limit the running time of videos uploaded), but I hope they keep some of the more obsecure rarities that haven't yet been struck down overzealous copyright holders. That's a BIG reason YouTube is popular. If it starts going with fairly useless pay-for content like Google, this merger isn't going to benefit them.

[bigddan11]

Right now though each of the 3 big networks (ABC, NBC, and CBS) all broadcast live episodes online after they air on TV now at their respective site. FOX and the CW should follow soon, especially the CW. Heck, even ABC Family shows new episodes online.

[SirLemming]

I can understand no-no to full episodes (though it's not exactly attractive anymore, since they took steps to limit the running time of videos uploaded), but I hope they keep some of the more obsecure rarities that haven't yet been struck down overzealous copyright holders. That's a BIG reason YouTube is popular. If it starts going with fairly useless pay-for content like Google, this merger isn't going to benefit them. Here's an example of the kind of thing that YouTube is great for: Rupert Jee bothering people on Letterman (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AhOif5jkWV4). Yes, it's their intellectual property right and they should be allowed to release it when they see fit, but... ...come on! There's just no release anywhere in sight. And if there ever is, it'll look and sound a million times better than this VHS-to-YouTube conversion anyway.

[Beat]

I can understand no-no to full episodes (though it's not exactly attractive anymore, since they took steps to limit the running time of videos uploaded), but I hope they keep some of the more obsecure rarities that haven't yet been struck down overzealous copyright holders. That's a BIG reason YouTube is popular. If it starts going with fairly useless pay-for content like Google, this merger isn't going to benefit them.

Well that's what I was thinking. There's just so much obscure material on the website that would be literally inacessible otherwise.

TV shows with no rights holders.
Old TV intros
Sporting events that may have not taken place here (where else besides youtube are you going to see Owen Hart wrestling in Japan, or the 60's Muay Thai vs. Kyokoushin matches Mas Oyama held?)

To suddely sweep that away in favor of paid materail would result in a migration to a new video site. Rinse and repeat.

[Mynd Hed]

I found this quote from the above-linked article kinda funny:


YouTube will continue to retain its brand, its new headquarters in San Bruno and all 67 employees, including co-founders Chad Hurley and Steve Chen. Meanwhile, Google will continue to run a less popular video service on its own site.

It makes it sound like it's part of the contract that Google Video must remain less popular than YouTube. (-:

[Moto Pete]

Well that's what I was thinking. There's just so much obscure material on the website that would be literally inacessible otherwise.

TV shows with no rights holders.
Old TV intros
Sporting events that may have not taken place here (where else besides youtube are you going to see Owen Hart wrestling in Japan, or the 60's Muay Thai vs. Kyokoushin matches Mas Oyama held?)

To suddely sweep that away in favor of paid materail would result in a migration to a new video site. Rinse and repeat.

Just like when Napster took the Fall and Limewire took the Ball and Ran with it

[Mr. Manager]

Right now though each of the 3 big networks (ABC, NBC, and CBS) all broadcast live episodes online after they air on TV now at their respective site.Fox has episodes of their shows on Fox's affiliates' websites and they also stream full-length episodes on MySpace.

[bigddan11]

Fox has episodes of their shows on Fox's affiliates' websites and they also stream full-length episodes on MySpace.

Not all FOX affiliates have websites that stream the shows. I'll have to look into the MySpace airings, but really there's not much outside of 24 and sports that I care for on FOX (since Malcolm has ended).