The Hanna Barbera Universe (or Universes?)

[HBfan]

Maybe this has been discussed before, but do all Hanna Barbera cartoon characters exist in a single "universe" or multiple "universes"? In general, I like to group most of the characters into either the Yogi Universe or the Scooby Universe. Of course, there would be other universes, such as the Jonny Quest Universe and the Smurf Universe, but I like to concentrate on Yogi and Scooby.

Despite the fact that the Scooby's and Yogi's were shown together in the Laff-a-Lympics show and a few others, I like to view them as separate universes. My next obvious question would be: What characters exist in each universe?

I'm particularly interested in what characters should be included in the Yogi Universe. I include, of course, all the early talking animal characters that appeared on the various HB primetime and syndicated shows, from Ruff and Reddy to Atom Ant and Secret Squirrel. I think everyone would include the Flintstones and Jetsons in this group, as well. I prefer to expand it beyond this point to include such similar characters from the late 1960s and early '70s as Autocat and Motormouse, the Cattanooga Cats, It's the Wolf, and the Hair Bear Bunch. I think Hong Kong Phooey should also be a member of this group. I also like to consider the Wacky Race characters and its spin-off characters, including Dick Dastardly, Muttley, and Penelope Pitstop.

Has anyone else ever thought of assigning these characters membership into separate universes? Or am I the only super-anal organizational freak that likes to think about this stuff?

Just curious...

HBfan

[Mister Intensity]

I always felt that the universes should be divided in a similiar manner as the teams were divided in Laff-A-Lympics. Mainly the 60's characters in the Yogi/Huck universe and the 70's characters in the Scooby universe. There are some borderline cases, mainly Grape Ape and Hong Kong Phooey. I usually put those characters in the Scooby universe, although the designs of both shows would be at home in either universe.

Mister Intensity

[J'onn J'onzz]

I always thought they existed in one universe...

[Eric B]

Yeah; one universe; different galaxies, perhaps.
After Ruff & Reddy, HB seems to be divided between

Late 50's/Early 60's (aka "the Yogi's),
Huck/Yogi & Friends shows:
Huck (Y)
Pixie/Dixie/Jinxie (Y)
Hokey Wolf (Y)
Yogi (Y*)
Snagglepuss (L*)
Yakky Doodle (Y)

Quickdraw McGraw Show
Quickdraw (Y) w/Dalton Bros (R)
Super Snooper (Y)
Augie Doggie (Y)

Hanna Barbera New Cartoon Show
Wally Gator (Y)
Touche Turtle
Lippy the lion

Independants
Flintstones (L) w/Creepleys (R)
Jetsons
Top Cat (L)

Theatrical
Loopy deLoop

Mid 60's

Magilla Gorilla/Peter Potamus
Magilla
Mushmouse & Pumpkin Puss
Ricochet Rabbit/Droopalong
Peter Potamus
Breezly & Sneezly
Three Muttsketeers

Atom Ant/Secret Squirrel
Atom Ant
Hillbilly Bears
Precious Pup
Secret Squirrel
Winsome Witch
Squiddly Diddly

60's should be easy to remember. Everything is grouped into threes (with some combined into sixes) for a total of 27 TV series )plus one theatrical one).

Interim:
Jonny Quest/Super Adventures: 1 1964 series + 12 1966-67 series
Space Kidettes
Huck Finn
Gulliver

Banana Splits
Banana Splits
Three Musketeers
Arabian Knights
Micro Venture

Late 60's/70's (aka "the Scoobies")

[Heatter Quiggley]
Dastardly & Muttley (R*-characters changed, see below)
Penelope Pittstop

Cattanooga Cats
Cattanooga Cats
It's the Wolf (L*)
Autocat & Motormouse

"Mysteries Inc":
Scooby (S*)
[Josie]
Funky Phantom
Chan Clan
[Jeannie] & Babu (S)
Goober
Inch High Private Eye
Speed Buggy (S)
Hong Kong Phooey (S)
Jabberjaw (L)
Clue Club
Dynomutt (S)
Captain Cavemen (S)
Buford

Independant
Hair Bear Bunch
[Superfriends]
Wheelie & the Chopper Bunch
Valley of the Dinosaurs
Grape Ape (Y) w/new Muttley changed to "Mumbly" (R*)
Yogi's Space Race team members

Skatebirds
[Three Robonic Stooges]
Blastoff Buzzard
Wonder Wheels

Afterwards, it gets more into Action Adventure, with all the comedy being [licensed property], and it's past Laffalympics anyway. You could make a new team with the 90's "cartoon Cartoon" era HB characters.

I always thought they should have made a team with the 12 franchises from the mid 60's. Even though a similar "60's HB animal comedy" type as the Yogis (and mixed with them on Yogi's Ark), they did have a somewhat different group personality about them. Magilla would be the most logical captain, but "Breezly Bruins" would have had a nice ring to it.

The others from the 70's who were not in the crimesolving group could possibly be another team. Top Cat would even fit into that more than into the Yogis, instead of sticking him in there as a special guest referee (L)
Ruff & Reddy (or even Tom & Jerry if they could have been used) would seem to fit in this other group as well.
The teams could also have been bigger, so that the rest of the Yogi/Huck/HB New Cartoon show characters would fit into the Yogis, and the rest of the crime solvers could fit into the Scoobies. But I guess that would have been way too many characters to handle in one single show.
The Super Adventures (and other serious shows) wouldn't fit, of course. They are basically like a separate universe.

[Deadman]

I always thought they existed in one universe...
thats what i always thought.

[Kolbar]

Universe A *Yogi's Gang/Yogi Yahooies*
Yogi Bear, Boo Boo, Cindy, Ranger Smith
Huckleberry Hound
Snagglepuss
Augie Doggie & Doggie Daddy
Snooper and Blabber
Yakky Doodle
Magilla Gorilla
Secret Squirrel
Atom Ant
Grape Ape
Pixie and Dixie and Mr. Jinx
Hokey Wolf and Ding-a-Ling
Wally Gator
Lippy the Lion and Hardy Har Har
Touche Turtle and Dum Dum
The Hillbilly Bears
Mildew Wolf and Lambsy
Dastardly and Muttley

Universe B *Scooby Doobies/Mystery Solvers*
Scooby-Doo, Shaggy, Scrappy, Velma, Daphne, Fred, Scooby Dum
Josie, Valerie, Melody, Alan, Alexander, Alexandra
Blue Falcon and Dynomutt
Butch Cassidy and the Sundance Kids
Hong Kong Phooey
Clue Club
Speed Buggy, Tinker, Mark, Debbie
Captain Caveman, Brenda, Dee Dee, Taffy
Jeannie and Babu

Universe C *Action Heroes*
Space Ghost, Jan, Jayce, Blip
Birdman, Avenger
Galaxy Trio
Mightor
Moby Dick, Tom, Tub, Scooby
Dino Boy, Ugh
Shazzan, Chuck, Nancy, Kaboobie
Herculoids

Universe D *Sitcom Families*
Flintstones
Jetsons

[Jon Cooke]

I'd agree that the "funny animals" (Yogi, Huck, Quick Draw, Auggie Doggie, Yakky Doodle, etc) all seem to exist in the same universe.

Top Cat doesn't really fit in with the Yogi characters. Top Cat takes place in the "real world" (New York City), which sets it apart from the cartoony settings of Jellystone, Bedrock, etc.

The Flintstones and The Jetsons seem to exist in their own separate universes. I wouldn't lump them in with the Yogi characters. "The Flintstones" exists as a TV show in the Jetsons' world (Elroy was seen watching a Flintstones rerun on his TV wristwatch once).

That's my take on it anyway...

[Kolbar]

I'd agree that the "funny animals" (Yogi, Huck, Quick Draw, Auggie Doggie, Yakky Doodle, etc) all seem to exist in the same universe.

Top Cat doesn't really fit in with the Yogi characters. Top Cat takes place in the "real world" (New York City), which sets it apart from the cartoony settings of Jellystone, Bedrock, etc.

The Flintstones and The Jetsons seem to exist in their own separate universes. I wouldn't lump them in with the Yogi characters. "The Flintstones" exists as a TV show in the Jetsons' world (Elroy was seen watching a Flintstones rerun on his TV wristwatch once).

That's my take on it anyway...Good points, but...

If I recall correctly, Top Cat was featured in both "Yogi's Ark Lark" and "Yogi's Treasure Hunters." The other cats from the gang showed up in "Ark Lark" also.

Now, what about "Jetsons Meet the Flintstones"? That episode where Elroy watches an episode of "The Flintstones" kind of screws up everything. I was inclined to think they were in the same universe. Perhaps the executives of the "Flintstones" show Elroy was watching already went back in time and met the Flintstones and decided to make a TV show out of it. ;)

[Jon Cooke]

Good points, but...

If I recall correctly, Top Cat was featured in both "Yogi's Ark Lark" and "Yogi's Treasure Hunters." The other cats from the gang showed up in "Ark Lark" also.

Now, what about "Jetsons Meet the Flintstones"? That episode where Elroy watches an episode of "The Flintstones" kind of screws up everything. I was inclined to think they were in the same universe. Perhaps the executives of the "Flintstones" show Elroy was watching already went back in time and met the Flintstones and decided to make a TV show out of it. ;)

Yeah, I thought of those after I had posted my thoughts.

I was thinking along the lines of the original series and not really of the spin-offs and movies that came years after the original episodes had wrapped up.

[Anthonynotes]

Kind of assumed the H-B multiverse (one universe? Feh... only if you subscribe to DC Comics' post-crisis only-one-Earth lack of adventure. ;-) ) consisted of:

- the various action shows in their own universes (mostly)

- most of the humor shows of the 60's (Yogi, Huck, etc.) are probably in the same universe (supported a bit by the Yogi's Birthday Party episode / various specials with Yogi, Huck, etc. together).

- For me, Scooby Doo shares the same reality as:
* Speed Buggy (New Scooby Movies)
* Jeannie (New Scooby Movies)
* Josie and the Pussycats (New Scooby Movies)
* Dynomutt (Scooby Doo/Dynomutt Hour)
* Batman and Robin (New Scooby Movies; I assume there's no superpowered superheroes such as Superman, etc. in Scooby's world, seeing as Batman and Blue Falcon fit the "ordinary people solving mysteries" motif of Scooby better...)

Laff-a-lympics falls under "non-canonical"/"some other world" for me far as Scooby's concerned, as does "Scooby Goes to Hollywood", given the latter's heavy "Roger Rabbit" toons-as-actors treatment of the characters. ;-)

- The Flintstones and Jetsons share the same world IMO (ignoring the Elroy-watching-the-Flintstones-on-TV joke). Also existing in their world IMO:
* The Roman Holidays: the short-lived early 70's cartoon about a family in ancient Rome, would fit their world IMO. (The Stone Age crew did visit ancient Rome in one episode...)

* Captain Caveman exists, along with the Teen Angels (in the 20th century).

* Camelot also exists in the Flintstones/Jetsons world (per one Flintstones episode), though don't recall any H-B series specifically centered around Camelot / King Arthur.

* Astro and the Space Mutts: a spinoff series airing during "Yogi's Space Races" IIRC, featuring the Jetsons' dog Astro joining a space canine crimefighting patrol headed by a human annoyed with their constant bungling.

* The Herculoids: IIRC, a few of 'em crossed over with "Astro and the Space Mutts" once or twice, so I'll throw 'em in... not like their deep-space isolated existence trampled on the Jetsons' world much...

* All other related Flintstones and Jetsons spinoffs/animated movies, except for "The Flintstone Kids", which I consider apocryphal.

* Bedrock exists until well into the 25th century A.D., per one "Flintstones" episode where the Great Gazoo sends the Flintstones and Rubbles into said century's version of Bedrock. Thus, it also presumably exists in the here-and-now (as an ordinary city?)...


-B.

[JVipond]

This is all very confusing...


* Astro and the Space Mutts: a spinoff series airing during "Yogi's Space Races" IIRC, featuring the Jetsons' dog Astro joining a space canine crimefighting patrol headed by a human annoyed with their constant bungling.

* The Herculoids: IIRC, a few of 'em crossed over with "Astro and the Space Mutts" once or twice, so I'll throw 'em in... not like their deep-space isolated existence trampled on the Jetsons' world much...


Actualy, "Astro and the Space Mutts" was a segment of Space Stars. That series had crossovers among Space Ghost, the Herculoids and the Teen Force (the last being new characters). Yogi's Space Race featured Yogi, Huck and Jabberjaw among the competitors, with guest appearances by Quick Draw McGraw and (believe it or not) Jana of the Jungle.

[marko_scooby]

Its hard to say I think...
But if I had to say I would say they all lived in one universe but in many galaxies…
The main two galaxies being that of Yogi and Scooby…

[Kazuya Prower]

I'm surprised noone has put Johnny Bravo in the H-B universe. A few H-B characters guest starred: Scooby-Doo, Speed Buggy, Huckleberry Hound, Flinstones.

[Howard Fein]

I'm surprised noone has put Johnny Bravo in the H-B universe. A few H-B characters guest starred: Scooby-Doo, Speed Buggy, Huckleberry Hound, Flinstones.

There's also an H-B synergy in DEXTER'S LAB. Dynomutt guested in one memorable episode. Fred, Barney, Betty and George Jetson turned in cameos in others. Another was set at a Chuck-E-Cheese type restaurant with robotic performers- all of whom were patterned on vintage H-B talking animal characters! There are some real obscurites, too: Mushmouse, Punkin' Puss, Hair Bear.

Yogi and Fred also guested in episodes of BILLY & MANDY.

[quote=Kolbar]Universe A *Yogi's Gang/Yogi Yahooies*
Mildew Wolf and Lambsy
Dastardly and Muttley

The post-1968 comedic/talking animal characters really don't fit in the classic Yogi/Huck era IMO. There could be another Universe ("Newer Comedy Stars", or something to that effect) devoted to:

A few of the WACKY RACErs (too many participating would be too redundant of the show itself)
The Vulture Squadron
The Anthill Mob
The CATTANOOGA CAT elements
The Hair Bear Bunch
The Chopper Bunch
Grape Ape (who never belonged with the Yogi Yahooeys from a chronological standpoint) and Beagle
Jabberjaw- to me, more a funny talking animal than a mystery solver.
All the C.B. BEARS elements
All the KWIKKY KOALA elements.
The Trollkins.
Foofur.
Maybe even the Pound Puppies.
Animated versions of the Banana Splits could be incorporated the way they were for a busted pilot ABC SATURDAY SUPERSTAR MOVIE.

[quote=Kolbar]Universe B *Scooby Doobies/Mystery Solvers*
Scooby-Doo, Shaggy, Scrappy, Velma, Daphne, Fred, Scooby Dum
Josie, Valerie, Melody, Alan, Alexander, Alexandra
Blue Falcon and Dynomutt
Butch Cassidy and the Sundance Kids
Hong Kong Phooey
Clue Club
Speed Buggy, Tinker, Mark, Debbie
Captain Caveman, Brenda, Dee Dee, Taffy
Jeannie and Babu

What, no Funky Phantom, Chan Clan, Goober, Inch High, Wonder Wheels, Buford, Shmoo or Drak Pack? Fear of stereotyping may prevent the Chans, although their original show was blessedly free of any.

I also don't consider Jeannie and Babu to fit into the mystery format. Legalities notwithstanding, a whole Universe could be created consisting of established properties adapted by the studio:

Laurel & Hardy
Abbott & Costello
The Fantastic Four
Harlem Globetrotters- the 1970 mortals, please- not the ridiculous Super Globetrotters!:p
Addams Family
Partridges 2200
Robonic Stooges
Popeye
Godzilla
Casper
Fonz/Laverne & Shirley
Smurfs
Pac-Man
Pink Panther Sons & friends
Ed Grimley
Bill & Ted

[quote=Kolbar]Universe C *Action Heroes*
Space Ghost, Jan, Jayce, Blip
Birdman, Avenger
Galaxy Trio
Mightor
Moby Dick, Tom, Tub, Scooby
Dino Boy, Ugh
Shazzan, Chuck, Nancy, Kaboobie
Herculoids

The Quest team, Sinbad Junior, Space Kidettes and the Impossibles belong there as well. If the Fantastic Four and Godzilla can be moved from the Established Properties team, they would be a good fit here.

[quote=Kolbar]Universe D *Sitcom Families*
Flintstones
Jetsons

Someone else correctly mentioned the Holidays. The Devlins and Days unfortunately wouldn't belong because of their serious underpinnings. The Partridges could also qualify here. And then there's the Boyles!

The question is, how many younger baby boomers would remember a lot of these characters?!:sad:

[JVipond]

I also don't consider Jeannie and Babu to fit into the mystery format. Legalities notwithstanding, a whole Universe could be created consisting of established properties adapted by the studio:

Laurel & Hardy
Abbott & Costello
The Fantastic Four
Harlem Globetrotters- the 1970 mortals, please- not the ridiculous Super Globetrotters!:p
Addams Family
Partridges 2200
Robonic Stooges
Popeye
Godzilla
Casper
Fonz/Laverne & Shirley
Smurfs
Pac-Man
Pink Panther Sons & friends
Ed Grimley
Bill & Ted

How about Richie Rich, the Little Rascals and Gary Coleman?




Universe C *Action Heroes*
Space Ghost, Jan, Jayce, Blip
Birdman, Avenger
Galaxy Trio
Mightor
Moby Dick, Tom, Tub, Scooby
Dino Boy, Ugh
Shazzan, Chuck, Nancy, Kaboobie
Herculoids

The Quest team, Sinbad Junior, Space Kidettes and the Impossibles belong there as well. If the Fantastic Four and Godzilla can be moved from the Established Properties team, they would be a good fit here.

So would the Superfriends and Jana of the Jungle, though only the former could be considered an Established Property in the 1970s.

[Howard Fein]

[quote=JVipond]How about Richie Rich, the Little Rascals and Gary Coleman?

Oops, you're right! There's also the Shirt Tales, but they'd probably fit better into a Cute Li'l Character universe, which would also be composed of:

The Smurfs
The Trollkins
The Monchichis
The Biskitts
The Snorks
The Paw-Paws

[Hockey Mask]

Well...the SuperFriends are in one universe and all the otheres...welll...just don't matter. ;)

[Mr. Manager]

You can put almost anything together in continuity. For example, Dynomutt was on Dexter's Lab. Dynomutt also appeared with Scooby-Doo. Scooby-Doo has appeared on Johnny Bravo. Huckleberry Hound appeared on...oh screw it. I can just use Harvey Birdman to connect them all.

[Jeff Harris]

Forgetting that Laff-A-Lympics happened (the time/dimensional rift was already torn on that series when Fred and Barney [from the past] and Jabberjaw [from the future] appeared on separate episodes), the Hanna-Barbera characters exist in numerous universes. Here's how I see them:

HB1 - The Animal Stars, Dastardly and Muttley, and Wacky Races:
This includes every animal-specific franchise from Tom and Jerry (not the 70s versions) and Ruff and Reddy to Huckleberry Hound, Yogi Bear to Quick Draw McGraw, Top Cat to Wally Gator, Snagglepuss to Magilla Gorilla, and The Catanooga Cats to 2 Stupid Dogs and Cow and Chicken. Dastardly and Muttley (and their distant cousins the Baron and Mumbley) also exist in this universe, as does the Wacky Racers. Hong Kong Phooey also exists in this universe, despite his odd appearance on the Scooby Doobies on Laff-A-Lympics.

HB2 - Flintstones 60:
The universe where the Flintstones from the 60s incarnation exist, from The Flintstones to The Fred and Barney Show and Cave Kids to Flintstones on the Rocks and the Pebbles cereal ads where the Flintstones and the Rubbles are neighbors and best friends who become parents to young preschool-aged kids. These elements are echoed later in the centuries with a Roman family known as the Holidays, in the present with Wait 'Til Your Father Gets Home Where's Huddles, and Johnny Bravo, further into the future with a family known as the Jetsons, and even further into the future with The Space Kiddettes, who may exist in the same era as The Great Gazoo.

HB2B - Flintstones Comedy:
The pocket dimension where Pebbles and Bamm-Bamm grew to teens and later adults who married each other and had a pair of twins of their own (Chip and Roxy) and Fred and Wilma adopted a young boy named Stony. Also, Fred and Barney became cops while Wilma and Betty were newspaper writers working alongside the disguised form of Captain Caveman.

HB3 - Scoobyverse:
The world of mystery and crime-solving individuals like Mystery, Inc., Speed Buggy, Josie and the Pussycats, Inch High, Butch Cassidy and the Sundance Kids, The Teen Angels, Charlie Chan and the Chan Clan, Clue Club, and a version of The Blue Falcon and Dynomutt, not to be confused with the similar duo in the Labpuffverse. Devilin and These Are The Days also take place in this universe, though TATD takes place many, many years earlier. It's also possible that the Super Friends are in this dimension as well, thus connecting it with Plastic Man as well. The Flintstones and Yogi Bear only exists as cartoon characters. Jabberjaw could be seen as a distant future version of the Scoobyverse.

HB4 - Kidverse:
The universe with a complete deviation of all things from HB1, HB2, and HB3 where Fred, Barney, Wilma, and Betty all met each other when they were kids, Mystery, Inc. were mystery solvers when they were tweens, and Yogi, Huck, Snagglepuss, Cindy, and Boo-Boo were mallrats at an outdoor mall.

HB5 - Super Adventures:
Almost all the super heroic human adventurers of Hanna-Barbera with Space Ghost, The Herculoids, Birdman, The Galaxy Trio, Mightor, Samson and Goliath, Galtar, Valley of the Dinosaurs, and others. Jonny Quest's adventures (from the 60s to the Real Adventures, not counting the two movies) take place in this universe as well. A version of the Jetsons' pet Astro exists as a member of a space protectorate.

HB5B - Questmovieverse:
The pocket dimension where Jonny's Golden Quest and The Cyber Insects take place.

HB6 - Katverse:
The universe of the SWAT Kats, where all humanoid creatures throughout the galaxy are catlike.

HB7 - Creatureverse:
The universe that contains the different worlds of the Smurfs, the Snorks, the Paw-Paws, the Trollkins, and the Biskitts.

HB8 - Labpuffverse:
The universe where Dexter, Dee-Dee, Monkey, the Justice Friends, and The Powerpuff Girls exist. A version of the Blue Falcon and Dynomutt also exist in this world.

HB9 - Celebrityverse:
A universe filled with planets and pocket dimensions with licensed characters and franchises from Paramount Television (Happy Days, Mork and Mindy, and Laverne and Shirley), King Features (Popeye), Warner Bros. (The Dukes), Harvey (Casper and the Space Angels and Richie Rich) and various others.

HB10 - Superstarverse:
The universe where all characters co-exist in the same world, working on productions, playing against each other ala The Battle of the Network Stars and Survivor, and even going to work together. The universe where Space Ghost and Harvey Birdman have reignited their careers as talk show hosts and sitcom stars and veteran superstars make cameos on newer productions and sometimes get cranky about them as well.

[Jeff Harris]

Well...the SuperFriends are in one universe and all the otheres...welll...just don't matter. ;)That's not entirely true. The Super Friends connects directly to the Scoobyverse primarily because of Batman's two appearances on The New Scooby-Doo Movies. Like on Super Friends, the Dynamic Duo are well-known and liked by the general public. Heck, the DCAU and the AltDC versions of Batman wouldn't be so keen on having Thanksgiving Day balloons of himself, a true dark knight detective who doesn't get weak without his utility belt as the SF Batman seems to.

Man, pandimensional talk is fun.

[Slane]

HB8 - Labpuffverse:
The universe where Dexter, Dee-Dee, Monkey, the Justice Friends, and The Powerpuff Girls exist. A version of the Blue Falcon and Dynomutt also exist in this world.

Because Foster's has Frankie in the PPG shirt, I'm assuming it is not in this universe, correct? However, would you connect Billy and Mandy to Yogi or Flinstones, or would Foster's be connected to Billy and Mandy, Johnny Bravo, and PPG from references to those shows?

[Mister Intensity]

Forgetting that Laff-A-Lympics happened (the time/dimensional rift was already torn on that series when Fred and Barney [from the past] and Jabberjaw [from the future] appeared on separate episodes), the Hanna-Barbera characters exist in numerous universes. Here's how I see them:

HB1 - The Animal Stars, Dastardly and Muttley, and Wacky Races:
This includes every animal-specific franchise from Tom and Jerry (not the 70s versions) and Ruff and Reddy to Huckleberry Hound, Yogi Bear to Quick Draw McGraw, Top Cat to Wally Gator, Snagglepuss to Magilla Gorilla, and The Catanooga Cats to 2 Stupid Dogs and Cow and Chicken. Dastardly and Muttley (and their distant cousins the Baron and Mumbley) also exist in this universe, as does the Wacky Racers. Hong Kong Phooey also exists in this universe, despite his odd appearance on the Scooby Doobies on Laff-A-Lympics.

HB1B - Yo! Yogiverse:
A parallel dimension where the HB1 characters are young like Yogi Bear and Tom and Jerry and living among humans, not unlike Hong Kong Phooey and Top Cat.

HB2 - Super Adventures:
Almost all the super heroic adventurers of Hanna-Barbera with Space Ghost, The Herculoids, Birdman, The Galaxy Trio, Mightor, Samson and Goliath, Galtar, Valley of the Dinosaurs, and even the Space Kiddettes. A version of the Jetsons' pet Astro exists as a member of a space protectorate.

HB3 - Flintstones 60:
The universe where the Flintstones from the 60s incarnation exist, from The Flintstones to The Fred and Barney Show and Cave Kids to Flintstones on the Rocks and the Pebbles cereal ads where the Flintstones and the Rubbles are neighbors and best friends who become parents to young preschool-aged kids. These elements are echoed later in the centuries with a Roman family known as the Holidays and even further into the future with a family known as the Jetsons.

HB4 - Flintstones Comedy:
The universe where Pebbles and Bamm-Bamm grew to teens and later adults who married each other and had a pair of twins of their own (Chip and Roxy) and Fred and Wilma adopted a young boy named Stony. This could also be the universe where The Flintstone Kids took place since that series is a deviation from what was already known about how Fred and Wilma met each other on The Flintstones. The Scoobyverse intersects to this timeline with Captain Caveman, who is thawed out to become a crimefighter in the present.

HB5 - Scoobyverse:
The world of mystery and crime-solving individuals like Mystery, Inc., Speed Buggy, Josie and the Pussycats, Inch High, Butch Cassidy and the Sundance Kids, The Teen Angels, Clue Club, and a version of The Blue Falcon and Dynomutt, not to be confused with the similar duo in the Labpuffverse. It's also possible that the Super Friends are in this dimension as well, thus connecting it with Plastic Man as well. The Flintstones and Yogi Bear only exists as cartoon characters. Jabberjaw could be seen as a distant future version of the Scoobyverse. Johnny Bravo also exists in this universe.

HB6 - Creatureverse:
The universe that contains the different worlds of the Smurfs, the Snorks, the Paw-Paws, and the Biskitts.

HB7 - Questverse:
The universe of Team Quest, a group of science-minded travelers that hop across the world in search of action and adventure. Only three series are connected to this universe, not the two movies nor the two Adult Swim incarnations of the characters.

HB7B - Questmovieverse:
The pocket dimension where Jonny's Golden Quest and The Cyber Insects take place.

HB8 - Labpuffverse:
The universe where Dexter, Dee-Dee, Monkey, the Justice Friends, and The Powerpuff Girls exist. A version of the Blue Falcon and Dynomutt also exist in this world.

HB9 - The Realverse:
A universe much like our own but with subtle differences. All the "real" shows like Wait Til Your Father Gets Home, Where's Huddles?, Devlin, and These Are The Days.

HB10 - Celebrityverse:
A universe filled with planets and pocket dimensions with licensed characters and franchises from Paramount Television (Happy Days, Mork and Mindy, and Laverne and Shirley), King Features (Popeye), Warner Bros. (The Dukes), Harvey (Casper and the Space Angels and Richie Rich) and various others.

This is a fun game. I would modify some of your divisions.

The Animal Stars Universe stays as you mentioned. I'm inclined to divide the Wacky Races verisons of Dastardly, Muttley, and Penelope Pitstop from the post-Wacky Races versions of the characters but there really is no real reason to. My only real modification is that Mumbly is a bad guy, while the Mumbly series where he's a good guy detective takes place in Classic Scooby's universe (he also appeared on Dynomutt).

Super Adventures as is except for the presence of the Space Kiddettes (I never seen the show so I won't comment further on them). Although I would place the original Jonny Quest series and Real Adventures there.

Classic Scoobyverse, mystery solving kids and everything from the original 1969-1986 classic Scooby run. Scooby and the Gang comes from an unnamed town that's a suburb of Big City, not Coolsville. The Mumbley series where he's a detective also takes here. The Captain Caveman of Captain Caveman and the Teen Angels reside here.

My first real deviation would be the What's New Scoobyverse which features A Pup Named Scooby-Doo, the 1969-1978 Scooby-Doo episodes (maybe not Movies), the DTV's, What's New, and Shaggy and Scooby. The A Pup Named characters seem closer to the current version of the characters than the classic versions. Also, Scrappy doesn't seem to exist in this universe. I would also place the Jonny Bravo episode in this universe.

Flintstones 60 should only include the 60's series, A Man Called Flintstone, and On the Rocks (maybe Jetsons Meet... too). All other Flintstone series and specials take place in the Flintstone Comedyverse. The Captain Caveman that appeared on the Flintstone spinoffs (who speaks perfect English) resides here.

The Questverse is in the Super Adventuresverse and only the original 60's series and Real Adventures take place there. The Quest Movieverse contains the original series, the 86 series and the TV movies that took place after the 86 series.

I would probably put the Realverse in the Scoobyverse. These characters are the ordinary citizens in that universe.

I agree, more or less, with everything else.

Mister Intensity

[Jeff Harris]

Because Foster's has Frankie in the PPG shirt, I'm assuming it is not in this universe, correct? However, would you connect Billy and Mandy to Yogi or Flinstones, or would Foster's be connected to Billy and Mandy, Johnny Bravo, and PPG from references to those shows?Any Cartoon Network-made show after The Powerpuff Girls (Ed, Edd, and Eddy and beyond) wouldn't be connected to the Hanna-Barbera universes, let alone the Labpuffverse. The personas of HB characters are, like the Labpuff version of Blue Falcon, autonomous to the Cartoon Cartoon Universe which is separate from the Hanna-Barbera universes. That's a whole other list.

[tb4000]

Just look at it like this: In the scooby-verse, the humans all look more "realistic." In the Yogi-verse, they look just as cartoony and stylized as the animals do. That's how you can tell. The Flintstones would fall into the Yogi-verse, the realism of teenage Pebbles notwithstanding.

[tb4000]

Any Cartoon Network-made show after The Powerpuff Girls (Ed, Edd, and Eddy and beyond) wouldn't be connected to the Hanna-Barbera universes, let alone the Labpuffverse. The personas of HB characters are, like the Labpuff version of Blue Falcon, autonomous to the Cartoon Cartoon Universe which is separate from the Hanna-Barbera universes. That's a whole other list.
The only cartoon made after PPG that seems to still be in that Hanna-Barbera mode is Billy and Mandy, as twisted as it is. That's like the last "cartoon cartoon" type show still being made.

[HBfan]

Wow, guys, this turned out to be a great thread. I almost hesitated in posting it, wondering if anyone would respond. The "universes" that have been identified in the last couple of replies are very close to what I've imagined in the past.

I'm curious about a few of the suggestions:

Why should there be two Flintstone universes? Because of certain inconsistencies? What are the primary sticking points?

I haven't seen The Space Kidettes since I was a kid in the 1960s, but I think I would also put them in the same universe as the Flintstones and Jetsons, rather than Space Ghost, et al.

Where would Droopy. Master Detective fit in? I imagine the YoYogiverse, since it spun off of Tom and Jerry Kids.

Now I think I'll take all of these suggestions and catalog the whole Hanna Barbera Universe of Universes some day I don't have anything else to do!!

HBfan

[Eric B]

Oh, so I see people are taking this whole "universe" thing quite seriously. I didn't think the word "universe" was being emphasized so literally.
But I would say they are all pretty much in the same universe, and there is no reason to make separate universes. This is proven by the fact that they all do cross paths at times, such as Laffalympics, Scooby Meets Batman (which also has a Yogi and Fred Flintstone balloon), Bravo Dooby Doo, Dexter in Dyno-Might, Harvey Birdman, the PPG's beat the Legion of Doom in a CN promo, various other CN promos mixing them together (boy, those were the days) and finally, just about every HB star ever created appearing in various publicity posters, such as the one at the beginning of the PPG movie where they are all in the theater. In fact, the CN promos do tie the HB universe with some of the non-HB Cartoon-Cartoons. Remember Double D and Ugh (from Dino-Boy) in the cartoon studio?
Within this universe, there is Time Travel, which explains the Flintstones, Jetsons or Jabberjaw appearing in the present or in each other's times. Even with Time Travel, you are still in the same universe!

The only stuff I would say is a different universe is stuff that it just too unlikely or contradictory. Let's face it; Fred and Daphne did not grow up from the nearly opposite characters in A Pup Named Scooby Doo. (though it has rubbed off on all Freds produced after that series). Also, the ferocious Yogi who appears in one episode. Then you have Tom & Jerry Kids, where the stars are younger, but all other supporting characters are their original ages. That one was botched up! That sort of stuff we call "non-canonical".

[Anthonynotes]

Rethinking my earlier remarks (and with the comments of others here factored in), figured I'd elaborate on my previous post about HB "universes".

I'll assume that the various licensed properties (Happy Days, Rubik the Amazing Cube, etc.) are in their own universes, as are the theatrical Tom and Jerry cartoons Hanna and Barbera made (being distinct from the TV versions of Tom and Jerry). Also assume the likes of "Yo Yogi" and "Flintstone Kids" are apocryphal, though will count "Pup Named Scooby Doo".

Let's see... utilizing classic DC Comic parallel-Earth nomenclature ("Earth-1", "Earth-2", "Earth-X", etc.):

Earth-Yogi: A world including the various funny animal cartoons of the late 50's and 60's, along with probably most of their cartoonish humans and such. Yogi Bear, Quick Draw, Huckleberry Hound, Magilla Gorilla, Pixie and Dixie, Top Cat, and so forth all live here, along with Atom Ant and Secret Squirrel. Superheroes the Impossibles and Hong Kong Phooey are here as well.

Also here, among others: Wacky Races; the Dread Baron and Mumbley (having faced Yogi in an 80's TV-movie), and thus presumably Mumbly's solo series; Grape Ape; the Skatebirds' animated entries (lame as they were); Kwicky Koala; Two Stupid Dogs.

Earth-Scooby: The various teens-solving-mysteries and teen-rock-groups seen in the 70's and 80's: Scooby is the centerpiece, of course. Speed Buggy and Josie and the Pussycats (as seen in "The New Scooby Movies") are here, too, as presumably are other teen entries such as "Fangface", "Funky Phantom", "Goober and the Ghost Chasers", "Chan Clan," "Butch Cassidy and the Sundance Kids", and "Clue Club". "Jabberjaw" could be a possible/probable future for Earth-Scooby (another possible future: the one seen in the early 80's "Scooby Doo 2000" episode of "Scrappy and Scooby Doo").

As noted by others, here, Fred Flintstone and Yogi Bear are fictional characters, and this world has a semi-realistic tone to it for most people (vs. the cartoonish humans in "Yogi Bear" or the completely realistic "These Are the Days").

Batman and Robin (and related elements) exist here as well, along with Blue Falcon and Dynomutt, and their respective cities of Gotham City and Big City; the Scooby gang's hometown of Coolsville is presumably located near Big City (though doubt it's a suburb), but not sure how close to Gotham they are. I'll assume no superpowered superheroes exist. Presumably, Batman and Robin's histories are some variation on the Silver/Bronze Age comics of the time (and their "Superfriends" counterparts).

I assume all versions of Scooby took place here except for "Scooby Goes to Hollywood" (given their meta-elements), even if the shows differ in tone.

"Capt. Caveman and the Teen Angels" *could* exist here, but I've opted to place it with the entry below instead...

Earth-Flintstone: The world of both the Flintstones and the Jetsons. A world with some semi-anthropomorphized animals (they talk, but don't do much other than serve as primitive appliances, with almost no animals speaking after the Stone Age except for ones like Astro). The Stone Age, Roman Empire (to an extent), and future of this world all resemble the 20th century, but in the style of their respective eras; however, after Ancient Rome, history seems to go back to the track we're used to, per the Bedrock World's Fair episode of the original Flintstones series (where Columbus, Ben Franklin, and the present all look like they do now). The legendary King Arthur and Camelot (per this episode) exists here as well.

Existing in this world: the Flintstones and all related spinoffs and animated movies, except for "The Flintstone Kids" (which I consider apocryphal, except for the names, etc. of their relatives); the Jetsons and their theatrical film; the 70's series "The Roman Holidays", which features a 20th century-ized Ancient Rome.

Also likely to exist here: "Capt. Caveman and the Teen Angels", taking place in the 20th century of this world.

Cap lived in the Flintstones' time in "The Flintstone Comedy Show"; a Capt. Caveman episode featured a time-travel trip by Betty, Wilma and Cavey to a city in the 20th century, which might've been 20th-century-Bedrock (I haven't seen the episode in a decade, and when I did see it, it was in Spanish, so I might not've gotten get everything translated...the episode centered on some guy from the present going back to the Stone Age to use his powers to rob Bedrock blind).

"Astro and the Space Mutts" might exist here as well, even with the realistic humans appearing---IIRC, it still had the cheesy space-puns that "The Jetsons" had. By extension (per guest appearances), some Earth-Flintstone versions of Space Ghost and the Herculoids would exist here as well.

"Space Kiddettes" might fit in on Earth-Flintstone as well, or even as a future track of Earth-Yogi above.

Earth-Action: The various action shows of the 60's: Space Ghost, the Mighty Mightor, Dino Boy, Birdman, etc.

Earth-Quest: "Jonny Quest" and various related spinoffs. (As opposed to its own Earth, it could possibly be just folded into Earth-Prime below.)

Earth-Prime: A stand-in for the real world; "Wait Till Your Father Gets Home", "Devlin", and "These Are the Days" are here. Almost all other H-B shows are, like in real life, just fictional cartoon characters here.

Earth-Smurfs: The world of the Biskitts, the Smurfs, and the Snorks. (As a kid, always wondered if the first two could ever cross over with each other... :-) ).

Earth-1A: The Earth of the Superfriends, which closely resembles the pre-Crisis Earth-1 of DC Comics. (DC editor E. Nelson Bridwell mostly made their world similar to Earth-1 in his writing and editing of the 70's Superfriends comic).

Earth-Dexter: The Earth of the Powerpuff Girls and Dexter's Lab. Counterparts of Blue Falcon and Dynomutt exist here.

Earth-Tom: The world of Tom and Jerry, as seen on TV, including "Tom and Jerry Kids" and the 70's series. Possibly the currently-airing "Tom and Jerry Tales" is here as well.

Further remarks:

- Yogi Bear has a Earth-Flintstones counterpart that's a probably-fictional TV show character, known as "Yogi Cave Bear". The real Yogi shows up in one episode of the original series (to swipe Wilma's picnic basket); I'll assume he got tossed back in time a million years (and across dimensional boundaries) and stopped by for a snack en route back to the present. ;-)

- An episode of the 80's Yogi Bear cartoon has Yogi visiting a primitive version of Jellystone Park that has Flintstone-ish elements (and is named "Rockystone"), but presumably isn't the Flintstones' world. Yogi meets an ancestor of his, named "Yogi the Cave Bear", who's quite ferocious/wild-animal-like.

- Laff-a-lympics is probably just like the old JLA-JSA teamups DC used to write annually---i.e. the various worlds crossing temporal and dimensional boundaries for athletic get-togethers. Same for "Yogi's Space Race". ;-)


Hope that added to the conversation... or not. :-)

[Jon Cooke]

Also assume the likes of "Yo Yogi" and "Flintstone Kids" are apocryphal, though will count "Pup Named Scooby Doo".

Perhaps there is some sort of alternate all-Baby universe, the home of the Flintstone Kids, Yo Yogi, Tom & Jerry Kids, etc.

[Jave]

Didn't Yogi and Boo Boo make a cameo in a Flintstones episode? Ithink that's enough proof to put them in the Yogiverse.

As for Richie Rich, he was Casper when he was still alive. :lol:

[Anthonynotes]

>>
Perhaps there is some sort of alternate all-Baby universe, the home of the Flintstone Kids, Yo Yogi, Tom & Jerry Kids, etc.

Maybe... makes them easier to ignore. ;-)

[Jeff Harris]

Why should there be two Flintstone universes? Because of certain inconsistencies? What are the primary sticking points?The primary sticking points for the dual Flintstone universes (although technically speaking, the Flintstone Comedy universe is more or less a pocket dimension connected to both the Flintstone 60 universe and the Scoobyverse) is The Flintstone Kids and most of the elements of the Flintstone Comedy shows of the 70s and early 80s, most notably the fact that Fred and Barney were never cops and Wilma and Betty never worked at a newspaper.

Also, now that I think about it, perhaps the Flintstone Kids SHOULD be in the "kidverse" because of the fact that Captain Caveman was a TV character on that show, not a real person in the Flintstone Comedy pocket dimension.


I haven't seen The Space Kidettes since I was a kid in the 1960s, but I think I would also put them in the same universe as the Flintstones and Jetsons, rather than Space Ghost, et al. Maybe. There weren't no superheroes in the Jetsons universe except on television (Nimbus the Great and Spaceboy Zoom). If anything, they should be in a far off future, even coexisting in the same timeline as The Great Gazoo, so maybe you are onto something there.


Where would Droopy. Master Detective fit in? I imagine the YoYogiverse, since it spun off of Tom and Jerry Kids.That seems likely.


But I would say they are all pretty much in the same universe, and there is no reason to make separate universes. This is proven by the fact that they all do cross paths at times, such as Laffalympics, Scooby Meets Batman (which also has a Yogi and Fred Flintstone balloon), Bravo Dooby Doo, Dexter in Dyno-Might, Harvey Birdman, the PPG's beat the Legion of Doom in a CN promo, various other CN promos mixing them together (boy, those were the days) and finally, just about every HB star ever created appearing in various publicity posters, such as the one at the beginning of the PPG movie where they are all in the theater. In fact, the CN promos do tie the HB universe with some of the non-HB Cartoon-Cartoons. Remember Double D and Ugh (from Dino-Boy) in the cartoon studio?The Laff-A-Lympics, the CN promos, and any other publicity productions should qualify as yet another universe:

HB10 - Superstarverse
The universe where all characters co-exist in the same world, working on productions, playing against each other ala The Battle of the Network Stars and Survivor, and even going to work together. The universe where Space Ghost and Harvey Birdman have reignited their careers as talk show hosts and sitcom stars and veteran superstars make cameos on newer productions and sometimes get cranky about them as well.

I think I do need to modify my outlook for these universes to reflect my newfound opinions and put in the one show I omitted - SWAT Kats.

[JVipond]

Let's see... utilizing classic DC Comic parallel-Earth nomenclature ("Earth-1", "Earth-2", "Earth-X", etc.):

Earth-Yogi: A world including the various funny animal cartoons of the late 50's and 60's, along with probably most of their cartoonish humans and such. Yogi Bear, Quick Draw, Huckleberry Hound, Magilla Gorilla, Pixie and Dixie, Top Cat, and so forth all live here, along with Atom Ant and Secret Squirrel. Superheroes the Impossibles and Hong Kong Phooey are here as well.

Also here, among others: Wacky Races; the Dread Baron and Mumbley (having faced Yogi in an 80's TV-movie), and thus presumably Mumbly's solo series; Grape Ape; the Skatebirds' animated entries (lame as they were); Kwicky Koala; Two Stupid Dogs.

Earth-Scooby: The various teens-solving-mysteries and teen-rock-groups seen in the 70's and 80's: Scooby is the centerpiece, of course. Speed Buggy and Josie and the Pussycats (as seen in "The New Scooby Movies") are here, too, as presumably are other teen entries such as "Fangface", "Funky Phantom", "Goober and the Ghost Chasers", "Chan Clan," "Butch Cassidy and the Sundance Kids", and "Clue Club". "Jabberjaw" could be a possible/probable future for Earth-Scooby (another possible future: the one seen in the early 80's "Scooby Doo 2000" episode of "Scrappy and Scooby Doo").

As noted by others, here, Fred Flintstone and Yogi Bear are fictional characters, and this world has a semi-realistic tone to it for most people (vs. the cartoonish humans in "Yogi Bear" or the completely realistic "These Are the Days").

Batman and Robin (and related elements) exist here as well, along with Blue Falcon and Dynomutt, and their respective cities of Gotham City and Big City; the Scooby gang's hometown of Coolsville is presumably located near Big City (though doubt it's a suburb), but not sure how close to Gotham they are. I'll assume no superpowered superheroes exist. Presumably, Batman and Robin's histories are some variation on the Silver/Bronze Age comics of the time (and their "Superfriends" counterparts).

I assume all versions of Scooby took place here except for "Scooby Goes to Hollywood" (given their meta-elements), even if the shows differ in tone.

"Capt. Caveman and the Teen Angels" *could* exist here, but I've opted to place it with the entry below instead...

Earth-Flintstone: The world of both the Flintstones and the Jetsons. A world with some semi-anthropomorphized animals (they talk, but don't do much other than serve as primitive appliances, with almost no animals speaking after the Stone Age except for ones like Astro). The Stone Age, Roman Empire (to an extent), and future of this world all resemble the 20th century, but in the style of their respective eras; however, after Ancient Rome, history seems to go back to the track we're used to, per the Bedrock World's Fair episode of the original Flintstones series (where Columbus, Ben Franklin, and the present all look like they do now). The legendary King Arthur and Camelot (per this episode) exists here as well.

Existing in this world: the Flintstones and all related spinoffs and animated movies, except for "The Flintstone Kids" (which I consider apocryphal, except for the names, etc. of their relatives); the Jetsons and their theatrical film; the 70's series "The Roman Holidays", which features a 20th century-ized Ancient Rome.

Also likely to exist here: "Capt. Caveman and the Teen Angels", taking place in the 20th century of this world.

Cap lived in the Flintstones' time in "The Flintstone Comedy Show"; a Capt. Caveman episode featured a time-travel trip by Betty, Wilma and Cavey to a city in the 20th century, which might've been 20th-century-Bedrock (I haven't seen the episode in a decade, and when I did see it, it was in Spanish, so I might not've gotten get everything translated...the episode centered on some guy from the present going back to the Stone Age to use his powers to rob Bedrock blind).

"Astro and the Space Mutts" might exist here as well, even with the realistic humans appearing---IIRC, it still had the cheesy space-puns that "The Jetsons" had. By extension (per guest appearances), some Earth-Flintstone versions of Space Ghost and the Herculoids would exist here as well.

"Space Kiddettes" might fit in on Earth-Flintstone as well, or even as a future track of Earth-Yogi above.

Earth-Action: The various action shows of the 60's: Space Ghost, the Mighty Mightor, Dino Boy, Birdman, etc.

Earth-Quest: "Jonny Quest" and various related spinoffs. (As opposed to its own Earth, it could possibly be just folded into Earth-Prime below.)

Earth-Prime: A stand-in for the real world; "Wait Till Your Father Gets Home", "Devlin", and "These Are the Days" are here. Almost all other H-B shows are, like in real life, just fictional cartoon characters here.

I have some questions about this:

Would Jana of the Jungle belong on Earth-Action, Earth-Prime or Earth-Quest?
Shouldn't the Robonic Stooges be on Earth-Scooby, given their similarity to Dynomutt?
Where would you put Casper the Friendly Ghost, Richie Rich, the Shirt Tales, the Little Rascals and Gary Coleman? Casper and Richie crossed over frequently in the Harvey Comics (contrary to what Jave said), but never on TV.

[Anthonynotes]

I have some questions about this:
Would Jana of the Jungle belong on Earth-Action, Earth-Prime or Earth-Quest?


Not sure I've ever seen "Jana of the Jungle", but if she's a Tarzan-type (from the sound of her name), probably would put her on Earth-Action.



Shouldn't the Robonic Stooges be on Earth-Scooby, given their similarity to Dynomutt?


No; the Earth-Scooby Three Stooges are normal humans (as seen in "The New Scooby Doo Movies"). Thus, Earth-Yogi will suffice for the cybernetic bumblers...



Where would you put Casper the Friendly Ghost, Richie Rich, the Shirt Tales, the Little Rascals and Gary Coleman? Casper and Richie crossed over frequently in the Harvey Comics (contrary to what Jave said), but never on TV.


As I stated at the start of the post, all such licensed properties (Shirt Tales were based on a line of greeting cards, IIRC) are in their own seperate miscellaneous universes that're on a lesser level than the "mainstream" H-B multiverse I outlined above, though a version of Casper probably exists on Earth-Yogi (per "Casper's First Christmas"). Casper and Richie are in the same universe (both being Harvey characters that met on occasion in the comics, even if they didn't cross over on TV).

-B.

[Steve Carras]

For me the universes stop in early 80s..some of 'em overlap:
FUNNY ANIMALS
All the obvious ones (Yogi,Huck,Magilla,Richochet,Squiddly..)

MISPLACED FAMILIES
(Flinstones, Jetsons, Roman Holidays)

TAKE-OFFS OF CELEBRITIES
(Doggie Daddy, Top Cat, the FREQUENT Phil Silvers/Frank Fontaine/Eric BLore-soudning characters (first two imitated largely by Daws Butler,latter by Paul Frees)

LICENSED CHARACATERS
(Josie and the pUssyctas, Sinbad, ABbott and Costello, Partridges, Jeannie, Laurel and Hardy, Smurfs,Globetrotters, Godzilla,etc.,etc.,etc.)

BASED ON LITERATURE
(Sinbad, New Adventures of Huckleberry Finn, Gulliver,etc.)

BASED ON TELEIVISION SHOWS BUT NOT THE ACTUAL GANG!
(These are the Days/Little House on the Priasie-Apple's Way (short lvied 1970s series-Waltons; Flinstones/Honeymooners; Jetsons/Blondie (most part), Hazel (when you get to Rosie) and since there's a teenaged daughter Judy instead of little baby Dumpling and little girl Cookie-, Judy's voice talent Janet Waldo's raddo series "Meet Corliss Archer", the "Hilary Duff" of its time!(A)The Donna Reed Show and B) Ozzie and Harriet would also suffice when it comes to a family with A) teen daughter and B) a bumbling dad, respectively!) , QUick Draw McGraw--ANY WESTERN, Snooper and Blabber--Sherlock Holmes, and concurrently, 77 Sunset Strip (two WB conencitons, Snooop with the humor and writer Mike Maltese and Sunset with the production co.!) and later Burke's Law (1960s)),etc.

BORROWED FROM THE TOM AND JERRY YEARS
Yakky/Iddy Bitty Buddy; Augie and Doggie/Spike and Tyke; also WB's Sylvester and Son

MYSTERY SOLVER
Snooper and Blabber, Scooby, Josie, Capt.Caveman

ROCK GROUPS
Just about ANY characters in the seventies

CUTESVILLE
Yakky, maybe Pixie and Dixie and Boo Boo, definitely any 80s "soft" series (as opposed to the testerone-charges boys action series).

[Eric B]

The Laff-A-Lympics, the CN promos, and any other publicity productions should qualify as yet another universe:

HB10 - Superstarverse
The universe where all characters co-exist in the same world, working on productions, playing against each other ala The Battle of the Network Stars and Survivor, and even going to work together. The universe where Space Ghost and Harvey Birdman have reignited their careers as talk show hosts and sitcom stars and veteran superstars make cameos on newer productions and sometimes get cranky about them as well.

I think I do need to modify my outlook for these universes to reflect my newfound opinions and put in the one show I omitted - SWAT Kats.__________________
Jeff Harris,
I guess that would just be called the "CN Universe". (especially since it is not all HB).
I still don't see why it has to be separate "universes" from the shows. The only thing that necesarily looks like that would be the division between comedy shows and super adventures. (The Mystery format is inbetween, but leaning a bit more to comedy in its lack of super power). But even those have crossed paths, as I have said. Only contradictions should necessitate new universes.
Even Captain Cavemen's presence in Flintstone Comedy (and Kids wih a son of his own), I was going to include in that, but I realized it is not a contradiction. Capt Cavemen was found frozen from the prehistoric age, remember! So Flintstone Comedy/Kids was just his earlier life.

[Mr. Manager]

As for Richie Rich, he was Casper when he was still alive. :lol:Is that a reference to the episode of Space Ghost with Matt Groening?

[Kolbar]

Is that a reference to the episode of Space Ghost with Matt Groening?Actually, it's from "The Simpsons" but not sure which episode. I remember the family was returning from the Bi-Mon-Sci-Fi-Con and Lisa had some Casper and Richie Rich comics and Bart noticed how similar they looked and deduced that Casper had once been Richie while he was alive.

[Steve Carras]

Actually, it's from "The Simpsons" but not sure which episode. I remember the family was returning from the Bi-Mon-Sci-Fi-Con and Lisa had some Casper and Richie Rich comics and Bart noticed how similar they looked and deduced that Casper had once been Richie while he was alive.

No, I remember seeing Matt Groening (Very amusing guy..) on the Space Ghost Coast-2-Coast show.

[Kolbar]

No, I remember seeing Matt Groening (Very amusing guy..) on the Space Ghost Coast-2-Coast show.Well, I never said that Matt Groening wasn't on "Coast-to-Coast." I only said that the comment that Casoer was Richie Rich while he was alive came from that episode of "The Simpsons" which I mentioned above.

I don't understand why I'm arguing. I saw this episode recently.

[Jave]

Well, I never said that Matt Groening wasn't on "Coast-to-Coast." I only said that the comment that Casoer was Richie Rich while he was alive came from that episode of "The Simpsons" which I mentioned above.

I don't understand why I'm arguing. I saw this episode recently.Yep. That's what I meant. The episode is "Three Men and a Comic Book"