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ShadowWolf
01-21-2002, 11:38 AM
I don't know if i should be posting this here or not, but I'll give it a try. I just thought this little bit of info might interest someone. Then again, maybe everybody knows this already and as usual, I'm late. If so, then I'm sorry, but I am limited on my time, can't always check everything. Here it goes:

From Variety:

''Pokemon'' producer wins Fox Kids block

Monday January 21 12:34 AM ET
By Paula Bernstein

NEW YORK (Variety) - The lucky winner of the Fox Kids time slot is ``Pokemon'' producer 4Kids Entertainment, which will pony up $25.3 million a year to lease the network's four-hour Saturday morning time period.

In addition to mega-hit ``Pokemon,'' 4Kids produces the animated action series ``Yu-Gi-Oh!'' and ``Cubix,'' both of which air on Kids' WB.

A heated bidding war between 4Kids and closely held DIC Entertainment helped drive up the price for the daypart to more than three times the $8 million that Discovery Communications agreed to pay NBC last month for its three-hour Saturday morning block. In addition, by waiting until after NBC did its deal, Fox's real estate became even more valuable to kiddie companies looking for a guaranteed outlet for their programming.

Industry insiders believe 4Kids won out over DIC because of the former's proven track record in creating hit franchises, as well as its extensive relationships with Japanese children's programming suppliers. Since Fox's stations will still be able to sell local ad time, the network apparently wanted to ensure that whoever landed the block could keep it successful. DIC's shows include ``Sonic the Hedgehog'' and ``Madeline.''

As part of the four-year deal, Fox has retained the right to preempt programming in the block several times a year for baseball or other sports.

Nickelodeon, which had been in the running for both NBC's and Fox's blocks, bowed out after the bidding reached $15 million.

While 4Kids is a TV, film, homevideo and music production company, the Gotham-based company has a heavy focus on licensing. In addition to ``Pokemon,'' ``Yu-Gi-Oh!'' and ``Cubix,'' the publicly traded company also represents Nintendo and Cabbage Patch Kids.

In October, 4Kids signed a five-year pact with Pokemon USA to continue serving as the exclusive licensing agent and rep of TV broadcast and homevideo rights to ``Pokemon'' outside Asia. In addition, 4Kids acquired a 3% interest in the Pokemon Co.

The ``Pokemon'' franchise has grossed more than $10 billion worldwide since its introduction.

Because 4Kids produces action-packed animation series that wouldn't fulfill the FCC's educational requirements for kids, it's possible that they'll sublet an hour of the block to another tot programmer. The other three hours can consist of commercial programming.

Since ``Pokemon,'' ``Yu-Gi-Oh!'' and ``Cubix'' air on Kids' WB, it's unclear what programming 4Kids plans to air on Fox. The company will be shopping new animated properties ``Kinnikuman,'' ``Ultraman Tiga'' and ``Tama and Friends'' at the Natl. Assn. of Television Program Eexecutives confab in Las Vegas this week.

Fox's Saturday morning ratings have slipped in recent years as the network lost viewers to Kids' WB, Nickelodeon and Cartoon Network. Once News Corp. sold off Fox Family to Disney and returned its afternoon block of programming to affiliates, Fox -- without a promotional partner that could help amortize programming costs -- couldn't make the daypart worth its while financially. It's a stark change from the late 1990s, when ``Power Rangers'' helped Fox rule the broadcast kids audience.

Once the four-year term is up, 4Kids will be able to renew the deal for two more years.

Reuters/Variety REUTERS

Deltamon
01-21-2002, 11:55 AM
Somehow, I'm not too terribly surprised KWB got the rights. And hey, on the upside, we could someday see some Pokemon vs Digimon commercials and the like.


...assuming Digimon (or any of FOX Kid's former shows) even air on KWB.

Wait a minute...KWB is linked to CN, KWB so far has a pretty full lineup...maybe they could transfer some of FOX's old shows to CN? Maybe even TOONAMI?!


Gwah, I'm ramblin'.

Chibi Kageboshi
01-21-2002, 12:38 PM
Somehow, I'm not too terribly surprised KWB got the rights. And hey, on the upside, we could someday see some Pokemon vs Digimon commercials and the like.

KWB didnt win the rights to the block, 4Kids did. and Fox doesnt own Digimon anymore Disney does i believe....

Ricochet
01-21-2002, 02:53 PM
I'm not a big anime fan, so I can't say I'm thrilled...

Naraht
01-21-2002, 02:58 PM
Fox's old shows are going to ABC Family...
and pottentially some KidsWB shows could migrate to fox

Pilmedium
01-21-2002, 05:16 PM
Originally posted by ShadowWolf
As part of the four-year deal, Fox has retained the right to preempt programming in the block several times a year for baseball or other sports.

That kind of makes me hope Fox won't air anything I'm interested in. That one pre-emption the weekend after September 11th got me annoyed. I hate waiting for reruns.

The Mad Hatter
01-21-2002, 09:05 PM
Probably Pokemon will stay put for the time being. They probably have some contracts to fulfill... remember how B:TAS stayed on Fox for a year after KWB started up?

Jowy Blight
01-22-2002, 01:34 AM
DIC's shows include ``Sonic the Hedgehog''

If DIC had made the deal, could we of seen the return of the SatAM version of Sonic?

Mr. Obsession
01-22-2002, 01:57 AM
Originally posted by Jowy Blight


If DIC had made the deal, could we of seen the return of the SatAM version of Sonic?
Don't know. Isn't it currently running on Toon Disney?


I don't really think it matters in the long run whether or not Pokemon is still on kidsWB come the fall. As soon as the broadcast contract expires I doubt that 4kids will let them renew it. I'm betting that the suits at kids WB are scared spitless right now because of two things: First, because as soon as the contracts expire for all the 4kids properties those shows are gone. And second, they won't be able to get their hands on another 4kids show for at least 4 - 6 years.

They're about to loose their cash cow, and it's only a matter of time. Now I'm wondering, remember those "could Toonami survive without DBZ" debates over on the Toonami board? Now the question has just become "can kids WB survive without Pokemon?"

JM2
01-22-2002, 03:11 AM
Good points, but you could also say

Can NBC survive without friends?

Can MTV survive without the Real World/Road Rules?

Can Fox survive without the X Files?

Would all these networks be doomed today if their Cash Cows went bye bye? Mabye. Or Mabye not. It depends upon if they are developing good quality shows to take their place. Same deal with KWB. I'm sure going into this development period, they knew that there was a possibility that they would be losing some programming, so they went in and developed Scooby Doo and the Ninja Turtles. I think KWB will be just fine. Now if you want to see who's a real failure, point at ABC or UPN. Looks like the Disneyfication of their kids blocks hasn't done crap. I'll bet you 10-1 that CBS/UPNs Les Mooves drops the mouse blocks from UPN in favor of sister Nick's Spongebob and Rugrats after this season. Or mabye Nick JR on UPN?