Pocket Monsters Diamond and Pearl Talkback (Spoilers)

[KuwabaraTheMan]

We've been discussing the games in the anime forum, but I figured here would be a more accurate place to discuss them(for obvious reasons). And I'm sure these games are considered big enough to get their own thread here(given their pretty much guaranteed to become the best selling DS games ever in very short time).

Finally out in Japan(and Play Asia just told me my order has been shipped, so I should get my copy next week).

Now with 500 Pokemon total, much of the talk so far has been the unusually high # of pre-evolutions and evolutions of old Pokemon. Not to mention legendearies like Lucario and Manaphy aparently having pre-evos(although not confirmed).

For the first time in awhile, all 3 Starter trios look pretty equal. Although getting Fire/Fighting again is a bit lame. Grass/Ground and Water/Steel should both be inovative, however. The game itself looks great, and I can't wait to find out more about what happens.

From what I read you actually get a temporary second human party member at one point. I've been waiting for that for awhile. Now maybe the next Console RPG you can actually have a full party with each member having their own Pokemon team. How cool would that be?

[.Automatisch]

We've been discussing the games in the anime forum, but I figured here would be a more accurate place to discuss them(for obvious reasons). And I'm sure these games are considered big enough to get their own thread here(given their pretty much guaranteed to become the best selling DS games ever in very short time).

Finally out in Japan(and Play Asia just told me my order has been shipped, so I should get my copy next week).

Now with 500 Pokemon total, much of the talk so far has been the unusually high # of pre-evolutions and evolutions of old Pokemon. Not to mention legendearies like Lucario and Manaphy aparently having pre-evos(although not confirmed).

For the first time in awhile, all 3 Starter trios look pretty equal. Although getting Fire/Fighting again is a bit lame. Grass/Ground and Water/Steel should both be inovative, however. The game itself looks great, and I can't wait to find out more about what happens.

From what I read you actually get a temporary second human party member at one point. I've been waiting for that for awhile. Now maybe the next Console RPG you can actually have a full party with each member having their own Pokemon team. How cool would that be?

I'm hoping to get my copy soon.

[Captain Harlock]

I have to wait it out until the English version comes out. Not a big fan of playing a game in a language I don't understand. I'm excited about this game because of the WiFi capabilities, being able to trade and battle people anywhere. Not to mention a Water/Steel Penguin. How cool is that?

[KuwabaraTheMan]

Yeah. I ordered in Japanese because I read Hiragana and Katakana well enough to get by.

Although Lucario apparently isn't a Legendary after all. He's still really awesome, though.

According to Serebii, there's a lot more length to travelling in this game, too.

[Punisher]

What sucks in this won't come to North America until spring next year, and I really don't want to spend fifty bucks for a thirty dollar game and then not understand the language. But I will say Diamond and Pearl look so much better than Ruby and Sapphire were.

Edit: Just thought I'd post this here too. (http://www.filb.de/?option=news&aktion=komm&ID=460)

[Scirel]

Blast.. still no MewThree.

But I suppose that dark dragon god thing and masters of space and time will have to do.

Also it seems we get SIX sub legendaries here.

A Psychic trio that looks like blue mews and a dragon trio with an electric member that resembles the regis.

Manafi follows in the tradition of the "cute but powerful" thing Mew, Celebi, and Jirachi had going on.

But we have yet ANOTHER legendary trio, a powerful looking evil dragon, a small grass hamster(WTF?!) and a spiffy loking pure normal with the highest base stats of any pokemon ever.


Also, I'm glad the distance between towns was lengthened, and the ocean smallened. After RSE I've had enough water areas for one lifetime. Looks like not only will many old pokemon evolve, but the general game itself as well.

[Punisher]

#493 has straight 120's in every stat.

Yeah, I think I'll give up playing wifi now. Unless it's another unobtainable, and this may be the first time I support that.

[Scirel]

#493 has straight 120's in every stat.

Yeah, I think I'll give up playing wifi now. Unless it's another unobtainable, and this may be the first time I support that.

a major breakthrough in this game is that your dex is filled by seeing, not catching.

[The Cartoon]

Here are the starters and they are awesome!!!!!!! Penguins are my favorite animal you know

http://www.videogamesblogger.com/wp-content/uploads/2006/08/starter-pokemon-diamond-pearl-ds-small.jpg (http://www.videogamesblogger.com/wp-content/uploads/2006/08/starter-pokemon-diamond-pearl-ds-big.jpg)

[KuwabaraTheMan]

We've known the starters for a while.

Their final forms all look good, but I think Pocchama, the Penguin has the best final form. Although I still haven't decided on who I'll use when my copy comes.

[Scirel]

Since I have been informed that Milotic/Feebas will be back this gen, I believe I have finalized my "realistic"(non legendary) team.


Starter- Naetle
Water tank- Milotic
Just plain cool-Lucario
A lot better than his sprite suggested- Rentorra
A ghost- Muumaji
Ice dude- Ice eeveelution

And there's six.

[Splade Blade]

I must say I'm really disappointed in the final evolutions of the starters. The three of them looked like they had a lot of potential, but the evolutions ruined it. The penguin evo does look pretty good though, but I can't believe we have Fire/Fighting again. We've had enough Firefighter starters.

But overall I am PUMPED about this game. I can't wait for it to come out! It looks awesome!
The only thing I regret is lack of an ocean. Sure it was annoying, but it really added depth etc to the game.

I can't wait 'til more stuff is revealed though, like English names etc, and I'm definately looking forward to evolving my hard-trained Rhydon.

[BCVM22]

I must say I'm really disappointed in the final evolutions of the starters. The three of them looked like they had a lot of potential, but the evolutions ruined it. The penguin evo does look pretty good though, but I can't believe we have Fire/Fighting again. We've had enough Firefighter starters.

I don't understand what the hatred is for the Fire/Fighting final evolutions. This is only the second in four generations of starters. You might as well complain that all four Water starters have been pure Water types while you're at it.

[Captain Harlock]

I don't understand what the hatred is for the Fire/Fighting final evolutions. This is only the second in four generations of starters. You might as well complain that all four Water starters have been pure Water types while you're at it.
I think the weaknesses of Fire/Fighting outweighs its positives.

[KuwabaraTheMan]

I don't understand what the hatred is for the Fire/Fighting final evolutions. This is only the second in four generations of starters. You might as well complain that all four Water starters have been pure Water types while you're at it.

But its the second generation in a row. I'd have complained if we got another Water/Ground Final Evolution as well.

I wouldn't mind another Fire/Flying since we haven't had a starter with that since Lizardon in the first games.

[Dudley]

I can't wait to get this game. Even though I've never beaten a Pokemon game before, it'll be fun to play against other people around the world.

Is anyone planning on porting their Pokemon from R/S/E/FR/LG to Diamond and Pearl?

[yoshirider13]

where can I find a pikachu?

[Duke]

Geez, does GameFreak hate Fire-types or something?

In the original generation, we had the Charmander line, the Growlithe line, the Vulpix line, Magmar, Moltres, and Flareon. 10 Pokémon, all pretty decent in their own way.

Come Johto, we get the Cyndaquil line, the Houndour line, Magby, Entei, and the Slugma line. One line is awesome, another can't take a hit, one line is the worst line ever created, one is a Baby Pokémon, and the last is the worst Legendary yet.

Then, in Hoenn, we get the Torchic line, Torkoal, and that's it. Both are pretty good, though they became even more praised since the non-trading options was basically Slugma. :/

Now, we have the Hirokazu line, a Magmar evolution, and...what? Do we even get a Fire-type Legendary?

Considering we get about 10,000 Water-types every generation, as well as a bunch of new Grass-types, it just seems stupid that GameFreak can't figure out how to give one of the most popular types more representatives.

[RomanMack]

What's wrong with Entei? :(

[H Guggs]

I just want to know, what is this thing: http://www.greenchu.de/sprites/icons/464.pngIs it an evolution of something, because it was there by all the other evoulutions of Magmar and Electabuzz and Tangela. And can somebody give me a link to where they are finding all of the new Pokemons' names

[Captain Harlock]

I just want to know, what is this thing: http://www.greenchu.de/sprites/icons/464.pngIs it an evolution of something, because it was there by all the other evoulutions of Magmar and Electabuzz and Tangela. And can somebody give me a link to where they are finding all of the new Pokemons' names
www.Serebii.net is filling out the Pearl & Diamond Pokedex as time goes on, so that's where most of the information is being collected as towards the name.


Geez, does GameFreak hate Fire-types or something?
Probably. My personal favorite types: Ice and Steel are quite limited too.

[Duke]

What's wrong with Entei? :(
As a Legendary he's merely average at best. Both Moltres and Ho-Oh (whom I forgot in my earlier post) kick his butt as Legendaries, and he gets beat by all 3 Starters, Torkoal, Camerupt (who I also forgot), Ninetales, and Arcanine when regular Pokémon are counted in.

His main use was in Colliseum, but that's only if you didn't choose Quilava in the beginning, since your only other option is Slugma. Entei was featured in a damn cool movie, but he's outclassed in the games.

[KuwabaraTheMan]

I liked Entei. But of the 3 Legendary (4 Legged Animals) from G/S/C Suicune kicks everyones ass.

And from what I've been reading Serebii say, it sounds like there's a lot to do in this game. My anticipation is reaching a maximum.

[Swordfish_II]

The last Pokemon game I got was Crystal. But this is sounding like it'll respark my interest.

And I noticed FireRed and LeafGreen are Greatist Hits now. I might pick them up and get re-aquainted.

[RomanMack]

Hey... I just noticed that everyone says the "Dragonite" of the 3rd generation is Metagross. But... wouldn't Salemence be closer to that title?

[LordTerminal]

Just because it's also Dragon/Flying? No I don't think that's what makes it the 3rd Generation Dragonite but hey, everyone has a different opinion.

[RomanMack]

Well, it's also got the three stages. Stats that also rival Dragonnite/Tyranitar. And, well, it looks like a dragon :p (granted Tyranitar wasn't a dragon, but it looked like one).

The Metagross line also has three forms, and stats that rival Dragonite/Tyranitar... But I donno... I consider the Salemence line to be the 3rd generation "Dragonite". Though, I soppose the 3rd generation could have both the Salemence line and Metagorss line as the new "Dragonites".

[Duke]

Yea, Metagross makes things weird. It's an even bigger monster than Salamence is, it's marketed the same way Tyranitar and Dragonite are, and it's in Dragonite's/Tyranitar's spot in the Pokédex (right before the Legendaries). It almost seems like Metagross is the anti-Tyranitar while Salamence is the new Dragonite.

EDIT: A bunch of Japanese names have been revealed, including the two new Eevee Evoultions. The Grass-type will be called Leafia and the Ice-type will be Glacia. Considering that all the other Eeveelutions have had their names changed in America (Jolteon is Thunders, Vaporeon is Showers, Flareon is Booster, Espeon is Eefi, and Umbreon is Blackii), expect NOA/PUSA to keep the "eon" theme when the game comes over to our shores.

[.Automatisch]

There are rumors that D/P will actually be shipping mid-November in the US...

http://ds.ign.com/objects/707/707323.html

and

http://boards.ign.com/pokemon_diamond_pearl/b8007/128179622/p1/?11

While the second link isn't exactly substantial, I'm wondering if anyone that went to the Mew event could shed some light?

[Duke]

There weren't any flyers when I went to get Mew: Just some Mystery Dungeon stickers and a smaller copy of the Pokémon Fan magazine, which doesn't even talk about Diamond/Pearl ANYWHERE.

[.Automatisch]

There weren't any flyers when I went to get Mew: Just some Mystery Dungeon stickers and a smaller copy of the Pokémon Fan magazine, which doesn't even talk about Diamond/Pearl ANYWHERE.

Well, like I said... Just rumors. I personally would love for an 06 release, since I'd rather wait for the English version despite the fact that I'm still interested in importing it. I just don't want to buy it twice, since I want to use my FR/R Pokemon.

[sdp]

nope, in fact it was not even shown/mentioned, plenty of Pokemon Ranger advertising though,

[.Automatisch]

nope, in fact it was not even shown/mentioned, plenty of Pokemon Ranger advertising though,
Guess it IS an 07 release :/... I guess I will end up buying 2 copies...

[WolfieKiwi]

I'm favoring Naetoru over all. And the Diamond version legendary is just awesome so it's already caught my eye.

Yet another pokemon game on the Wish List this year...

[Punisher]

Yanma's evo is still bug/flying.

FAIL.

[Railith]

Then, in Hoenn, we get the Torchic line, Torkoal, and that's it. Both are pretty good, though they became even more praised since the non-trading options was basically Slugma. :/
You forgot Numel and it's evo, not a great or a bad pokemon.

I'm totally crushing on Wifi trading to get more pokedudes and battle. Also the physical/special split for attacks makes things very interesting.

[Duke]

Yanma's evo is still bug/flying.

FAIL.
You really expected that line to be good?

Then again, Seadra wasn't all that special in Red/Blue but Kingdra is a monster.

[sdp]

I still beleive yanma is the evolution of caterpie/metapod,

its true :raven:


*x files theme*

[Dudley]

Hey check out this new Pokemon: link. (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aruseus)

My question is, if that's the creation Pokemon, and is practically a god, than what role does Mew? What are the roles of the other legendary Pokemon?

[shoujoaifan]

Hey check out this new Pokemon: link. (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aruseus)

My question is, if that's the creation Pokemon, and is practically a god, than what role does Mew? What are the roles of the other legendary Pokemon?Some say Mew looks vaguely like an embryo, especially when its shown in a fetal position in its energy ball in some media, leading some to say that its the predecesser of all other pokemon, which would explain why it can learn any attack.

So maybe Aruseus created the Pokemon universe and Mew created the Pokemon to live in it. Or maybe Aruseus also created Mew and gave it the responsibility to populate the 'verse.

Hmmm, make you wonder where humans will fit into all this, not to mention how it'll be handled in the english dubbing of the game and show.


P.S.

If they want to create a Poke-Creation story, they could make parallels to other, older religions, and have Aruseus and Mew be lovers, and together they're the parents of all Pokemon! Although I doubt they'll use the potential there.


P.S.S.

Wouldn't that be kinda weird? Instead of all the time in fiction where viewers have seen people play god, we'll actually being playing WITH god? :p And here I thought "Sneak King" was the strangest, most twisted thing to come out of video games recently:p


P.S.S.S.

Hmmm, I wonder if he'll be banned from play like Deoxys is (Never thought I'd see the day when a Pokemom was actually banned like a trading card game often does. I mean hell, Mewtwo was all the rage back in the day...unless he's banned too?)

[Nel]

Arseus is indeed interesting, as is the new "Regi" and D/P's version of Rayquaza. Is it just me or all three of these gold and white?

Seriously, though, D/P may have the most interesting line-up of legendaries I've seen from all four generations. My anticipation for this game(s) is finally beginning to budge.

[Duke]

Meh, I doubt this Pokémon is, essentially, God. I mean, that takes all the mystery out of exploring the world of Pokémon and where they came from. I'd have much rather had the question unanswered for all eternity.

[Duke]

PokeBeach (http://www.pokebeach.com/dp/pokemon/) has full sprites for most of the Diamond/Pearl Pokémon.

So far, my preliminary team looks like...

- Dodaitoise
- Lucario
- Elekiburu
- Drapion
- Booburn
- Gaburaisu

What ever happened to Lapras' evolution?

Speaking of which, I'm glad GameFreak decided to NOT have 50% of the new Pokémon Water-types, but did they have to make the only ones that don't seem crappy be either the Starter or Legendaries?

[sdp]

well so far, d/p has been 50/50, there are some things i dont like, like a lot of the new evolutions, I also do not like the legendary overload, WAY too many, and it hought Hoenn had a lot....specially since most of those are "unobtainable" pokemon....

of course i'm just noting the bad points i'm still fairly excited,


as for my team, i don't know, i still haven't seen most in real detail, though i know i'll choose the penguin as my starter, would like to have lucario, maybe perap, the orange weasel(big maybe) ummm thats it, (yea i don't know their japanese names so what :p)

[BCVM22]

What ever happened to Lapras' evolution?

It isn't a Lapras evolution. Karanakushi is a Water-type sea slug Pokémon that will be pink if caught on the west side of the Shinou region, and blue if caught on the east side. It evolves to Toritodon, a Water/Ground-type. Pink Karanakushi evolve to pink and brown Tritodon, while blue Karanakushi evolve to blue, green and yellow Tritodon.

http://serebii.net/diamondpearl/shinoudex.shtml

As for the new batch of legendaries, Yukishii, Emuritto, and Agunomu (the trio of little Psychic critters), Diaruga and Parukia (depending on which version of the game you have, of course), Giradina, Hiidoran and Kureseria are all in-game, as is Regigigas. The only catch is that for Regigigas is that you have to import Regirock, Regice and Registeel to your D/P cartidge from one of the 3rd generation games. Manaphy is obtainable only in a trade from Pokémon Ranger and can be obtained in that game only from an event, so it counts as an event Pokémon. When Manaphy breeds, it yields the Pokémon Fione, who resembles Manaphy but does not evolve into Manaphy and lacks some of its signature attacks; if you find a friend with a Manaphy, asking them to breed a Fiore for you isn't that difficult since they can breed as many as they like. Dakurai, Sheimi and Aruseus are all believed to be event Pokémon. So with a count of 13 new Legendaries, 8 are obtainable in game (this count includes both Diaruga and Parukia), 1 (Regigigas) requires the three Regis, and 4 (Manaphy, Dakurai, Sheimi and Aruseus) are event Pokémon.

[RomanMack]

http://ds.ign.com/articles/737/737053p1.html

Pokemon Diamond and Pearl have become the fastest selling game for the DS, beating even New Super Mario Bros.

It also beat PKMN Gold and Silver in having the fastest sales, which I believe were the two fastest selling PKMN games until now, no? Correct me if I'm wrong...

[Punisher]

That's insane, but not completely unexpected. I know I'll be reserving my copy as soon as possible.

And as for teams, I know I'm choosing the grass starter, but that's about it. Depending on natures/stats, I may also go with Mukkuhawk, but everything else will be random.

[sdp]

As for the new batch of legendaries, Yukishii, Emuritto, and Agunomu (the trio of little Psychic critters), Diaruga and Parukia (depending on which version of the game you have, of course), Giradina, Hiidoran and Kureseria are all in-game, as is Regigigas. The only catch is that for Regigigas is that you have to import Regirock, Regice and Registeel to your D/P cartidge from one of the 3rd generation games. Manaphy is obtainable only in a trade from Pokémon Ranger and can be obtained in that game only from an event, so it counts as an event Pokémon. When Manaphy breeds, it yields the Pokémon Fione, who resembles Manaphy but does not evolve into Manaphy and lacks some of its signature attacks; if you find a friend with a Manaphy, asking them to breed a Fiore for you isn't that difficult since they can breed as many as they like. Dakurai, Sheimi and Aruseus are all believed to be event Pokémon. So with a count of 13 new Legendaries, 8 are obtainable in game (this count includes both Diaruga and Parukia), 1 (Regigigas) requires the three Regis, and 4 (Manaphy, Dakurai, Sheimi and Aruseus) are event Pokémon.
my rant:
Kanto: Articuno, Zapdos, Moltres, Mewtwo, Mew
five legendaries, a trio, the "legendary" and the "unobtainable legendary"

Johto: Suicine, Raikou, Entei, Lugia, Ho-Oh, Celebi
Six legendaries, the trio, a 'pair' legendary, and the 'unobtainable' legendary

Hoenn: Regirock, Regice, Registeel, latios, latias, Kyogre, Groudon, Rayquazza, Jirachi, Deoxys

outdid this by having basically the same ammount of legenderies as kanto and johto together :shrug:, you have the trio, you have the 'pair' legendary, only they decided to add a 'third' to the pair ;/, the 'unobtainable' pokemon, and to top it off a second unobtainable Pokemon....and then ofcourse might as well throw in the lati@s as well ;D

i was hoping it'd have less legendaries but it even has more! :/ i guess if you count there are almost 500 pokemon, thirty something legendaries doesn't seem that bad,

though having 4/5 'event' pokemon might be a little too much, back in the day people had enough trouble with just one, though I guess we already had a lot of 'event' pokemon last generation since we couldn't trade with the older games, and that wasn't that bad, I don't keep up too much with the games as i liked but i still managed to get them all besides Deoxys.

i'm still annoyed at some evolutions like tangela but not as bad, i also wish Lucario was a legendary, he is too cool. though i can not beleive we still have no kangaskhan baby! specially with all the prevos and evos we have...

and is the lucario pre-evo a baby? if thats the case this will be the first generation were a 'basic' gets a baby on the same generation.

[BCVM22]

and is the lucario pre-evo a baby? if thats the case this will be the first generation were a 'basic' gets a baby on the same generation.

http://serebii.net/diamondpearl/newpokes.shtml

Judge for yourself. To me, it looks like Rioru isn't any more of a "baby" form to Lucario than, say, the starters are to their final forms.

As for the event Pokémon, I'm hoping that the Wi-Fi capabilities of the DS (or the Wii, even) mean that Nintendo might put one or two of them online for a limited time and make them available to gamers that way, because I know I'm simply not willing to burn half a Saturday in a Toys 'R Us getting strange looks from children and their parents just to get a new Pokémon. ;)

[Dudley]

and is the lucario pre-evo a baby? if thats the case this will be the first generation were a 'basic' gets a baby on the same generation.

Lucario is not a basic. People thought Togepi was a baby Pokemon, but he ended up being a basic.

[BCVM22]

http://serebii.net/diamondpearl/aruseus.shtml

I'm impressed.

[Captain Harlock]

http://serebii.net/diamondpearl/aruseus.shtml

I'm impressed.
It'll most likely be banned from competitive play because of its crazy stats. But the possibilities of making it any type ever is kinda cool. Legendary Bug laffo.

[Dudley]

According to what I read here, (http://www.serebiiforums.com/showthread.php?t=152027&page=10)
you can't bring in Pokemon from R/S/E/FR/LG that know any HM moves,
which really sucks.

[BCVM22]

According to what I read here, (http://www.serebiiforums.com/showthread.php?t=152027&page=10)
you can't bring in Pokemon from R/S/E/FR/LG that know any HM moves,
which really sucks.

Use the Move Deleter in Lilycove (R/S/E) or Fuchsia (FR/LG) to rid your chosen Pokémon of HM techniques. Problem solved.

[H Guggs]

As for the event Pokémon, I'm hoping that the Wi-Fi capabilities of the DS (or the Wii, even) mean that Nintendo might put one or two of them online for a limited time and make them available to gamers that way, because I know I'm simply not willing to burn half a Saturday in a Toys 'R Us getting strange looks from children and their parents just to get a new Pokémon. ;)

They'll probably have some Pokemon available for download into the Wii Pokemon title (can't remember what it's called) with the Wii-pojnts system.

[Jyose]

Maybe humans in the pokeverse are actually

Humon
bald ape pokemon
Normal/Dark

My guess is

Altheus, Dialga and Palkia created the world and it was just populated by mew-like species of pokemon (the Psychic trio kind of looks like different mutations of Mew) who eventually diverged into all the different pokemon. Humans? They're just aliens.

[LordTerminal]

Or God created all of the humans in the Pokeverse while Aruseus created all of the Pokemon. I don't see why God himself can't have his own Pokemon.:D

[KuwabaraTheMan]

My copy of Diamond just arrived in the mail! I'll get started on it in a few minutes.

Edit:

Initial thoughts. Graphics are very good. Better then the screenshots showed, which already looked good. By far the best for a Pokemon game. Its pretty fun so far. I like having two different rivals instead of one.

[RomanMack]

Here's a question...

Why in the world does that bunny PKMN have an ability called "stupid" (it's a useless ability)? I mean... Not only is it useless... But the PKMN doesn't even look stupid. It just looks like another token cute PKMN...

Don't know what Game Freak was trying to go for here...

Also, Regigigas has to be the worst legendary PKMN as of now... It has a VERY cripling and useless ability. Shame, too. I liked how it looked.

[KuwabaraTheMan]

Damn, this game really is long. I'm approaching the 7 hour mark, and I haven't even reached the City with the second gym yet. And aside from training a little for the first gym(which was really hard since I started with Hikozaru, thank god for Subomi!), I haven't wasted much time. Haven't even really explored that much, aside from checking out houses.

[Punisher]

Damn, this game really is long. I'm approaching the 7 hour mark, and I haven't even reached the City with the second gym yet. And aside from training a little for the first gym(which was really hard since I started with Hikozaru, thank god for Subomi!), I haven't wasted much time. Haven't even really explored that much, aside from checking out houses.Is it the same forumla that made R/S/E so boring at the begining? As in pointless forests, poor training areas, etc? Because I recall it taking a while to get my party properly trained for the first two gyms.

Either way, I need to know at what point in the game I can get that awesome Fuwante.

[KuwabaraTheMan]

There's not any forests so far. Two different caves though, which is annoying, as it makes most of my party not very effective.

Overall it seems pretty balanced so far. I'm not finding myself bored. I just met the Galaxy Gang, which will add a little bit more to the game.

[Duke]

There's not any forests so far. Two different caves though, which is annoying, as it makes most of my party not very effective.
Do they have the usual horde upon horde upon horde of Zubat in the caves?

It's not a true traditional Pokémon game if you're not fighting a Zubat/Golbat every 3 steps in the caves.

[Captain Harlock]

Do they have the usual horde upon horde upon horde of Zubat in the caves?

It's not a true traditional Pokémon game if you're not fighting a Zubat/Golbat every 3 steps in the caves.
The same barrage of Geodude/Zubat appear in caves in this one. Which makes me kind of mad, I really hate the Zubat encounters.

[RomanMack]

zubat and geodude have to be the most common monsters in the whole damn games...

[KuwabaraTheMan]

Yes, the never ending horde of Zubat and I*****ubute(lol at Toon Zone censoring the name) return. But there's also a slim chance of encountering Koduck in one of the caves, which is nice.

[shoujoaifan]

Hmmm, all this reminds me of three questions I keep forgetting to ask:



1. Will we need R/S/FR/LG (with or without Emerald?) along with D/P in order to "Catch'em All!"? If so, then this would be the first generation that would required 3 lines of games to do it.


And,


2. While I'm sure this has been asked a million times on other forums, I'll risk asking this for the first time here:

"Where in D+P can we find Pikachu? :p "

Back in the really, REALLY old days of R/B/Y, I would always spend the extra time in the Viridian Forest to catch the ol' rat instead of waiting until the Power Plant (usually 1/2 hour would be the top time needed to find him there, while occasionally he would show up in the first few minutes. One time I ran into FIVE of them in the first 5-10 minutes)

I was ticked he wasn't in G/S/C.....until I played the whole game and found out I missed him near the beginning :p


And,


3. After using the primary colors, then the "rich" colors, then going see-through, THEN going back to the primary colors via minerals, and THEN remaking the first primaries with more advanced gameplay, graphics, and adjectives, after all that, exactly WHAT colors will they use next? :D

Maybe the next generation will be "Pokemon: White" and Pokemon: Black", and the later third one will "Pokemon: Grey", or "Pokemon: Granite", or "Pokemon: Pencil" ;)

If they do another FR/LG and remake Johto, they can call them "Pokemon: 24 Karat Gold", and "Pokemon: Sterling Silver" :p

[Splade Blade]

My question is, if that's the creation Pokemon, and is practically a god, than what role does Mew? What are the roles of the other legendary Pokemon?

I miss the good old days....when Mew was the mysterious one considered a god...and Mewtwo was the crazy powerful one....and it was still a mystery if there were more than 151 pokemon..

Now they're just shoving more and more down our throats, and we know exactly how many pokemon there are.

[Duke]

1. Will we need R/S/FR/LG (with or without Emerald?) along with D/P in order to "Catch'em All!"? If so, then this would be the first generation that would required 3 lines of games to do it.
Probably. All of your old Pokémon (up to 6 at a time) are transferred via a Safari Zone-type place, where you get unlimited Master Balls in order to re-capture them.

I do know that you NEED FireRed AND LeafGreen in order to capture some of the Legendaries.

[Punisher]

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/8/87/Fuwaraido.jpg.jpg
Base Stats
HP: 150
Attack: 80
Defense: 44
Special Attack: 90
Special Defense: 54
Speed: 80

Somebody try to tell me that isn't badass. I need to know how early I can get my paws on that thing.

[RomanMack]

I don't even know what that is... It seems to look like a hot-air balloon/cloud/lobster hybrid...

[Dudley]

I don't even know what that is... It seems to look like a hot-air balloon/cloud/lobster hybrid...

It's a ghost/flying type.

[Splade Blade]

I think they need to make the old starters (Bulbasaur, Charmander, Squirtle, Chikorita, Cyndaquil, Totodile, Treecko, Torchic, and Mudkip) available in the wild. I mean, they're really just normal Pokemon. So why not?

[shoujoaifan]

Probably. All of your old Pokémon (up to 6 at a time) are transferred via a Safari Zone-type place, where you get unlimited Master Balls in order to re-capture them.

I do know that you NEED FireRed AND LeafGreen in order to capture some of the Legendaries.Thanks!

Did some researching ( namely wikipedia :sweat: ) and find out that its one-way from R/S/E/FR/LG to D/P ( which I'm also sure EVERYONE already knew that, except for me :sweat: )

I MIGHT get either FR or LG if they go cheaper. Even though they're updated remakes with all the breeding and natures and all from later gen's, and new stuff like the 7 islands, its still a remake. I liked playing the old games, even starting over a few times to do it all again ( never had the motivation to "Catch 'em All" after the Elite 4 ), but I'm not shelling out alot for something that's mostly the same. Some places have them new for $20, so maybe I'll get one when they fall some more, or get one used at "Blockbuster" or something ( their used games are never busted or anything ).
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/8/87/Fuwaraido.jpg.jpg
Base Stats
HP: 150
Attack: 80
Defense: 44
Special Attack: 90
Special Defense: 54
Speed: 80

Somebody try to tell me that isn't badass. I need to know how early I can get my paws on that thing.
It's a ghost/flying type.Awesome, I love ghosts types, one of my favorites. The game could aways use more of those and other less used types, and all those new Lengendaries with a Dragon type and another type are in the right direction (I love that dragon/ghost hyrbid).
I don't even know what that is... It seems to look like a hot-air balloon/cloud/lobster hybrid...It looks they tried a little too hard with this guy, adding too many elements. If they lost the awkward "X", it would look MUCH better. The weird puff at the top can go too, I know its supposed to be a cloud to match the theme of being a balloon and all, but it looks goofy.....which is relative, since we're talking a balloon Pokemon here, let alone Pokemon in general :p The X definately needs to go though.

[Duke]

Awesome, I love ghosts types, one of my favorites. The game could aways use more of those and other less used types, and all those new Lengendaries with a Dragon type and another type are in the right direction (I love that dragon/ghost hyrbid).
Good news, as they have a bunch of new Ghost-types (including apparently a Dusclops evolution for some reason).

[BCVM22]

I do know that you NEED FireRed AND LeafGreen in order to capture some of the Legendaries.

Not quite.

http://serebii.net/diamondpearl/legendaries.shtml

There's a list of all the available Legendaries in-game in D/P. The only requirement from the 3rd generation is all three Regis, in order to awaken Regigigas. Other than that, all of them save for Aruseus, Darkrai, Sheimi and Manaphy are available in-game without any external requirements, so all you need are a crate of Ultra Balls and the patience of a saint.

You do need Fire Red and/or Leaf Green to evolve Electabuzz and Magmar, though. Having Fire Red in your DS while playing Diamond or Pearl will cause wild Elekid to appear at the Power Plant, Elekid that will rarely be carrying an Electrobooster. Attach the item to an Electabuzz and trade it, it'll evolve to Elekible. Plug in Leaf Green, you get the same effect with wild Magby at Hard Mountain, the Magmabooster and Buuburn, Magmar's evolution.