Wii May Get GTA

[mammy2shoesfan]

From http://www.nintendojo.com/infocus/view_item.php?1158824187

"Wii get to Play GTA?
9/21/2006, 3:36am Eastern Time

During the GameCube era at Nintendo, not one Grand Theft Auto title appeared on the console.
That could all change when Wii hits store shelves in November. Speaking to MTV, Nintendo of America COO, Reggie Fils-Aime, said that he was in talks with Take-Two Interactive, parent of GTA developer Rockstar Games.
Fils-Aime went on to say, "...The fact is there will be M-rated content on the Wii console. EA has already announced that they're bringing 'The Godfather' to our console. And we want every single best-selling game to be available on Wii. Whatever that content is."
Could, and I dare say, "wii" get our hands on a GTA for a Nintendo home console? What was once an obvious "no" has suddenly got Nintendo fans talking.
There is no official word from Take-Two, Nintendo, or Rockstar and the only official game announced for Wii from Take-Two is a rendition of the MLB 2k series."

I just hope this can bring GTA to the Wii. Because if thats the case I might not have to get a 360 after all if thats the case. I'm also hoping that they can some how make GTA:3, VC and SA available on the VC so they can foucus working on getting GTA 4 on the console asap.

[sdp]

GTA3,CS,SA on the VC? not gonna happen, unlike the cartridge based games these are games that are gigs, and that if they are ports they'd have to run on PS2 hardware..

GTA4 will not come to the Wii, since I bet they will make use of the 360/PS3 hardware, we might get a GTA for the Wii but not a port of 4.

[Shawn Hopkins]

GTA3,CS,SA on the VC? not gonna happen, unlike the cartridge based games these are games that are gigs, and that if they are ports they'd have to run on PS2 hardware..

GTA4 will not come to the Wii, since I bet they will make use of the 360/PS3 hardware, we might get a GTA for the Wii but not a port of 4.


We may get a GTA Classics series, with upgraded ports of the first III, VC, SA and maybe even the stories games. That would be good for gamers who only buy Nintendo systems.

As far as the newer GTA, I'm sure it would have to take several downgrades in graphics and other areas, but they may be able to make a port for the Wii.

[mammy2shoesfan]

GTA3,CS,SA on the VC? not gonna happen, unlike the cartridge based games these are games that are gigs, and that if they are ports they'd have to run on PS2 hardware..

GTA4 will not come to the Wii, since I bet they will make use of the 360/PS3 hardware, we might get a GTA for the Wii but not a port of 4.

I'm going to have disclaimer myself, but I will go on record saying that I'm not going to pretend I know the process of porting.

I understand the GTA games are big games but at this point has any limitations been reported regarding the VC. I'm thinking that as long as the servers have enough space they should be able host the VC games or what ever games they can get the rights to host. But why would they need to run on PS2 hardware when the Xbox also had those games. Once again I don't know the porting process so you might have a point.

I stilly not convinced thay the Wii won't be able to handle most system wide game releases. Their versions may or my not look as good graphicilly (I'm still not convinced on that yet either) but they game will look good enough. If thats the only problem I wouldn't let them stop them from making the game because I'm sure they would be able to handle the gameplay via Classic Controller or Game Cube controller. Plus the fact Wii will have M rated titles it would make no sense for them not have it. A game like GTA as we have seen in the past can sell a system and that could be the equalizer that the Wii would need. I know for sure if I could get the older GTA titles and GTA 4 on Wii there would be no need for me to get an 360 since the price point of the PS3 puts that out of the picture for me.

[MattThomasM2B]

The only way I could begin to consider buying a GTA game on Wii is if it's GTA: Everything Stories. Liberty City, Vice City and all of San Andreas.

[Zach]

I'd buy anything GTA on the Wii. Period. Waving around a Wiimote to gang wars? Sign me up.

[Chad Bonin]

I could see an exclusive version of GTA, along the lines of the "Stories" games (the world is made, just new gameplay). Maybe "San Andreas Stories".

[Shawn Hopkins]

I'm going to have disclaimer myself, but I will go on record saying that I'm not going to pretend I know the process of porting.

I understand the GTA games are big games but at this point has any limitations been reported regarding the VC. I'm thinking that as long as the servers have enough space they should be able host the VC games or what ever games they can get the rights to host. But why would they need to run on PS2 hardware when the Xbox also had those games. Once again I don't know the porting process so you might have a point.

I stilly not convinced thay the Wii won't be able to handle most system wide game releases. Their versions may or my not look as good graphicilly (I'm still not convinced on that yet either) but they game will look good enough. If thats the only problem I wouldn't let them stop them from making the game because I'm sure they would be able to handle the gameplay via Classic Controller or Game Cube controller. Plus the fact Wii will have M rated titles it would make no sense for them not have it. A game like GTA as we have seen in the past can sell a system and that could be the equalizer that the Wii would need. I know for sure if I could get the older GTA titles and GTA 4 on Wii there would be no need for me to get an 360 since the price point of the PS3 puts that out of the picture for me.

The problem with distributing them through the Virtual Console is that each game is several Gigabytes big and designed in such that the cities are much larger than the PS2 memory was, so they streamed on the fly from the disc. Downloading a GTA game would take a long time for most people, but more importantly the Wii has no hard drive to store it. Maybe if everyone had a T3 they could be streamed from the server on the fly, but I doubt Nintendo is willing to take on that programming challenge for a bunch of old games.

I don't think porting the earlier GTA games to the Wii and releasing them on disc is a problem. With Liberty City Stories, Rockstar basically ported GTA III to the PSP, so it seems like they would be up to the task.

Finally, be convinced. Wii titles will not look as good graphically as well-programmed 360 and PS3 games. It simply lacks the raw computing power of the expensive higher-end consoles. And it is possible there may be games that would have to be so significantly different or downgraded to work with the Wii that there would be no point in porting them.

[Mynd Hed]

I could see an exclusive version of GTA, along the lines of the "Stories" games (the world is made, just new gameplay). Maybe "San Andreas Stories".

That seems like the most realistic scenario to me. (Well, unless you count "Reggie's just teasing us," that is.) Why muck around with adding some Freehand gameplay to a port when you could bill it as a brand new game?

[.Automatisch]

What's funny is that many of the same Nintendo fanboys that condemned the series as "crappy" or "bland" are now excited at the prospect of getting a port of those very games... I noticed the same thing when they announced Far Cry... And no, I'm not talking about anyone here. I'm just talking about boards like IGN and such.

[Artimus Gigan]

snake']What's funny is that many of the same Nintendo fanboys that condemned the series as "crappy" or "bland" are now excited at the prospect of getting a port of those very games... I noticed the same thing when they announced Far Cry... And no, I'm not talking about anyone here. I'm just talking about boards like IGN and such.
I quote the SomethingAwful Forums

That's because alot of Nintendo fanboys have massive chips on their shoulders and complain about the company they worship being shat on and not anothers. Nintendo fanboys also have a tendency to **** on anything that Nintendo doesn't do. Who needs story right? Stories suck. Now watch me compliment Eternal Darkness and say it has the best plot ever and then decry Silicon Knights because they left Nintendo. Now that it isn't on a Nintendo system, I am going to call their next games plot pretentious. Game length? short, with tons of superflous rewards. Long games suck. Holy shnikeez RE4 is kind of long. Long games are great.
There aren't many here. There is a reason you don't see many System Wars posts here, and that is because this forum isn't a gigantic dump. I am not saying you are like this, because I don't know your posting history, but you wanted to know why Nintendo fanboys are "persecuted" (I know you didn't use that word, I am not mocking you) so now I have told you.

Out of all the fanboys they're the most hypocritical, just accept it as nature and take what they say with salt or whatever condiment of your choosing

A game installment related to a popular comes out on the Nintendo system, the fanboys then claim the series as their own and usually ignore/discredit the other installments. In all honesty who's better off game wise? The person who buys all the other installments because they like the series and the games are of solid quality, or the person who just suddenly now jumps onboard the series because it's brandishing their favorite company logo?

If anything I hope the next GTA installment picks up some of the more fun qualities of Saint's Row. That's a very good example of the same genre.

I also thought the spectacular destruction and the Create a Character would go well with GTA

[Zyzzybalubah]

This makes me happy, not because I'm a GTA fan (I'm not, so far I just don't like the fighting engine enough) but it will definitely give consumers something to talk about. Konami held off porting a Silent Hill title to Cube as well as other developers held back because they didn't consider it mature enough. If the grand-daddy of M-rated titles is bringing one of the bigger titles to Wii, this will draw the interest of consumers and other third parties.

Personally, I thought Resident Evil series should have been enough, but really, it wasn't.

If the controls improve on GTA:Wii (if made) and I see some really incredible things that may be done, I might check it out.

[Noukon]

I could see them porting over the game worlds from GTAIII and its spinoffs, and then wedging in a new gameplay system based on the controller. Frankly, I'm a little burnt out on the GTA series -- the concept has been done to death at this point -- but maybe it'll be different enough to be worth playing. Otherwise, I'll look to GTAIV for whatever innovations it might bring to the table.

[TheMecca]

It's good for the reputation of the Wii, but GTA kind of gets old.
And for the record (so nobody's like LOL U HAVNT PLAYD IT) I've played and beaten GTA 3, VC, and SA.

[mookie75]

Out of all the fanboys they're the most hypocritical, just accept it as nature and take what they say with salt or whatever condiment of your choosing.


Well Gigan, I'll break the mold of your hypocrite accusation. I hope GTA stays as far away from the Wii as it can. Nintendo doesn't need that type of crap to stay competitive.

So take that to the bank, all you equally hypocritical Sony and Microsoft people... :p

Also, that guy you quoted need to understand something. Some plots suck. Some don't. Some long games suck. Some don't. I like how he uses sweeping generalizations to criticize people for using sweeping generalizations. Now that's hypocritical.

[Artimus Gigan]

Well Gigan, I'll break the mold of your hypocrite accusation. I hope GTA stays as far away from the Wii as it can. Nintendo doesn't need that type of crap to stay competitive.

So take that to the bank, all you equally hypocritical Sony and Microsoft people... :p

Also, that guy you quoted need to understand something. Some plots suck. Some don't. Some long games suck. Some don't. I like how he uses sweeping generalizations to criticize people for using sweeping generalizations. Now that's hypocritical.
I'm talking about Fanboys, NOT PEOPLE OF NORMAL(or close to normal) MENTALITY or just regular fans

I said they're the most Hypocritical, meaning the other two are hypocritical, just not as hypocritical

[Strollymonster]

The Wii getting some GTA action would only be a good thing for helping it's popularity.

Regardless of how you feel about them, they SELL consoles. The only reason I got a PS2 while it was still 300 bucks was GTA3.

Of course, it did end up breaking, which is why I certainly wouldn't mind having a PS3...there's a lot of great PS2 games I'd like to play and there are a few PS3 games that I like the looks of. Simply put, I just can't afford the monetary investment the PS3 would require.

[mammy2shoesfan]

The problem with distributing them through the Virtual Console is that each game is several Gigabytes big and designed in such that the cities are much larger than the PS2 memory was, so they streamed on the fly from the disc. Downloading a GTA game would take a long time for most people, but more importantly the Wii has no hard drive to store it. Maybe if everyone had a T3 they could be streamed from the server on the fly, but I doubt Nintendo is willing to take on that programming challenge for a bunch of old games.

I don't think porting the earlier GTA games to the Wii and releasing them on disc is a problem. With Liberty City Stories, Rockstar basically ported GTA III to the PSP, so it seems like they would be up to the task.

Finally, be convinced. Wii titles will not look as good graphically as well-programmed 360 and PS3 games. It simply lacks the raw computing power of the expensive higher-end consoles. And it is possible there may be games that would have to be so significantly different or downgraded to work with the Wii that there would be no point in porting them.

I won't be convinced till I see for myself. I know about the specs and in the end specs are just numbers. And numbers can be played with and a good programer knows how to do that. Hardware can also be pushed. I know these games are supposed to look better than what was out before which is still damn good so even it doesn't look as good PS3/360 (which I can't image how it couldn't except for a detail here and a couple of colors there) it would be good enough for. I would rather seem them try to hang with the big boys than lay down and say Wii can't complete and bring out the best games possiable. To me next to the Mario games the GTA games haved been the best games. With a game as Big as GTA if they can bring it to the Wii it will help both parties because those games sell and they sell systems. So programers get to work and show me why you get your big checks lol.

[Burdette25159]

My odds for GTA on the Wii? 50/50

[mammy2shoesfan]

I'm hoping they can land an exclusive or get 4 and the GTA classics.

[Zyzzybalubah]

My odds for GTA on the Wii? 50/50

Sounds reasonable. Overall, I think the chances are pretty good, it's not like it's back when N64 and people were making theories of FF7 getting ported to the system possibly through the 64DD. The current graphics-style would be easy to put on Wii, heck they could probably knock them up an inch or two. It is possible they'd either make a "superior" GTA 3, VC, or SA title with a little extras and Wii-functionality. I mean Tecmo is bring the Xbox Ninja Gaiden to PS3 with superior graphics and the ability to play as Rachel, so I don't see why Rockstar couldn't do that with Wii. If they were really into Wii, they could make a whole new game from the ground up, I mean they did it with PSP, but right now I'm not gonna expect that personally, I mean they're really trying to prep up GTA4 afterall.

I can also see it possible that Nintendo and RockStar wouldn't get along. In the past, someone from Nintendo made a comment against the GTA series. Who and what exactly, I don't remember, but I do remember they weren't exactly praising the series. We'll see though. I hope they can work something out.

Also, it would be pretty nice if they focused on the Virtual Console... No not because of classic GTA, but I want Space Station Silicon Valley.

[William C. Maune]

As far as the newer GTA, I'm sure it would have to take several downgrades in graphics and other areas, but they may be able to make a port for the Wii.

Eh, I don't think it would need much of a downgrade, if even any. I can't say I've played a lot of GTA, just some at a friends house, but the games never really seemed to be known for their graphics. Instead, they are known more for their storylines and freeroaming gameplay. As long as the new GTA games aren't suddenly pushing the highest end graphics (and they only seemed to be about average graphics-wise in the previous generation), I don't see any reason why the Wii couldn't handle it just fine.

[mammy2shoesfan]

Thats my whole point. The GTA games where about mind blowing graphics and why should they start now. If they do what ever it takes to bring the GTA games into next gen (I'm still not sold on the whole next lable yet show me somthing really) I'm sure it won't be graphic wise anyway I don't a GTA game looking like real life. Therefore the only thing to improve on is the game AI and back ground people. If they can't improve on that they have no business making games for any genration lol.

[Artimus Gigan]

Thats my whole point. The GTA games where about mind blowing graphics and why should they start now. If they do what ever it takes to bring the GTA games into next gen (I'm still not sold on the whole next lable yet show me somthing really) I'm sure it won't be graphic wise anyway I don't a GTA game looking like real life. Therefore the only thing to improve on is the game AI and back ground people. If they can't improve on that they have no business making games for any genration lol.
GTA will probably look similar to Saints Row or Dead Rising since the grenre has way more competition this time around

The machines have power to render alot of signifigant details properly(as in destroying vehicles and NPCs in many many ways)

However the question more or less rests on the Wii Remote itself, GTA has three types of controls, one for on foot/swimming(yes you can swim in VCS), one for driving, and the other for flying

You're really going to have to make the controls streamlined for this, considering how frantic things get.

[mammy2shoesfan]

I'm pretty sure for games like this you could either use the Classic or Gamecube controller. I really don't see the wimote for this type of game but who knows. I would rather use the Classic or Gamecube controller though.

[KuwabaraTheMan]

I'm pretty sure for games like this you could either use the Classic or Gamecube controller. I really don't see the wimote for this type of game but who knows. I would rather use the Classic or Gamecube controller though.

You don't want to use the Wiimote to beat people and kill hookers?

And just immagine...Hot Coffee with the Wiimote...

[Chad Bonin]

However the question more or less rests on the Wii Remote itself, GTA has three types of controls, one for on foot/swimming(yes you can swim in VCS), one for driving, and the other for flying
Driving and Flying are non-issues. Games on the way have already perfected controls for these (Excite Truck and that flying game from some company other than Nintendo).

[Artimus Gigan]

Driving and Flying are non-issues. Games on the way have already perfected controls for these (Excite Truck and that flying game from some company other than Nintendo).
it's converting between the different control styles I'm talking about

it could easily pose a hinderance to the gameplay

[Mynd Hed]

I'm pretty sure for games like this you could either use the Classic or Gamecube controller. I really don't see the wimote for this type of game but who knows. I would rather use the Classic or Gamecube controller though.

Depends on the game. If they do a GTA4 port I doubt they'd make much use of the freehand, but if they do a spinoff "Stories" type Nintendo exclusive they'll probably want to utilize that system's strengths.

[g_UnIt_GaNsTa]

Rockstar will be so cool if they call it WiiTA.

[RAINMAN]

I could careless if GTA come to the wii or not. But big N knows their in a business war so their gonna do whatever it take to sell the wii.

[Shawn Hopkins]

Eh, I don't think it would need much of a downgrade, if even any. I can't say I've played a lot of GTA, just some at a friends house, but the games never really seemed to be known for their graphics. Instead, they are known more for their storylines and freeroaming gameplay. As long as the new GTA games aren't suddenly pushing the highest end graphics (and they only seemed to be about average graphics-wise in the previous generation), I don't see any reason why the Wii couldn't handle it just fine.

I agree it might not be that much, at least with character models. GTA games are generally butt ugly. It might be able to render a less detailed city, though. That's probably where the hit will come in.

[Opaque]

I can't imagine I'd want anything on Wii over 360 when it comes to GTA.

Still if they can deliver something new and original while keeping it fun I'll pick it up.

[G1Ravage]

You don't want to use the Wiimote to beat people and kill hookers?

And just immagine...Hot Coffee with the Wiimote...

Hey, don't steal my ideas!!

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And if you twist the wiimote this way, you can...

[Mynd Hed]

I dunno, I think they can think of a lot more creative ways to use the freehand than just having the player raise it up to their mouth to make their character drink coffee.

...That's what you guys are talking about, right? RIGHT?!?!

(-:

[MGFanJay]

I'd love to see the GTAs on the Wii. The series appearing on Wii would show more people that it isn't a "kiddie" system, and there's no real downside to it appearing on another system.