updates {spoilers}

[austin norsworthy]

after 12-31-99, what has happend in the superman and batman comics?

[JL Man]

We have no clue what you mean.

[austin norsworthy]

I MEAN what has happend after at the end of 1999. okay, lex is prsedent, batman burned scarface...

and what has happend in "robin" and "Nightwing"?

[austin norsworthy]

anyone? anyone?


geez, no one answers my posts. And I'm really ticked. IS THERE NO ONE WHO CAN HELP ME?!?!??!

[austin norsworthy]

AHHHHHHHHHAHAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!!! ANSWERANSWERANSWER. Sombody answer!

[Clayface]

A lot has happened since then - I think no one wants to tackle this humongous task.

[austin norsworthy]

Originally posted by Clayface
A lot has happened since then - I think no one wants to tackle this humongous task.






I hate you people.


okay about just batman?

[Clayface]

Originally posted by austin norsworthy

okay about just batman?


Again, lots of things have happened. Maybe you want to be more specific in your question - what sort of information are you looking for?

[austin norsworthy]

Like what has devoluped with the charicters? like burce almost went over the edge, jimmy got shot, and I would like to know what has happened with the main charicters.

[The Guard]

Austin, if you'll email me, I'll send you my 2001 summary...

[The Guard]

Nevermind...here's what happened to Batman after NML...

After Gotham was rebuilt by Lex Luthor, Batman's next task was to rebuild the cave and Wayne Manor. He constructed a new Wayne Manor, and a new high tech cave. He also built a new Batmobile.

The first threat Batman faced was a woman named Whisper A'Daire, who had been hooked on a gene-splicing drug by Ra's Al Ghul. Whisper's goal was to flood Gotham with the drug, start gang wars, eliminate her competition, and own Gotham. Her partner Abbot, another genetically altered human, and Batman clashed a few times. Whisper ultimately fell to her death.

Batman managed to get Poison Ivy out of Gotham Park before the police used a weed-killer bomb on her and her "children". He also was instrumental in apprehending an escaped Two-Face.

Throughout the year Batman battled the mob, the russian mob, and other gangs that were trying to take Gotham.

Batman met the ghost of a boy who had been killed in a car accident, and was posessing dead bodies. He managed to convince the frightened child that it was best to not possess people.

The next foe Batman faced was Hugo Strange. Determined to destroy Batman, Strange infiltrated Wayne Enterprises. When the Batmobile exploded after a rooftop battle with Strange, Batman disappeared. Bruce Wayne reappered, but for some reason, had no idea he was Batman. Turns out he'd used self-hypnotism to make himself think he was a playboy. Nightwing and Robin saved the day, and got Bruce back to normal.

Batman's plans were taken by Ra's Al Ghul, and used to incapacitate the Justice League. When the league learned that Batman had these files, they kicked him out.

Batman clashed with Ra's Al Ghul again, and it turned out that Whisper had not died. Batman kidnapped her and cured her chemical need for the drug Ra's had addicted her to, but Whisper was treacherous. Batman managed to blow up Ra's middle eastern compound, and was partially responsible for Talia abandoning her father, and making him enraged at Batman.

Shortly afterward, Batman encountered a man named Matatoa, a warrior who claimed to absorb the abilities and memories of those he killed. He offered to protect Gotham forever if Batman would let himself be killed. In the end, Batman prevailed, but not before considering Matatoa's offer. Batman decided to adopt Dick Grayson, making them legal father and son.

The Batfamily was rocked when Commissioner Gordon was shot and almost fatally wounded. Eventually he healed, and it was discovered that it was a revenge scheme by a crooked cop. Gordon retired, and Batman started pushing away the Batfamily. Alfred, realizing that Bruce needed to grow up, left to be with Tim Drake at Brentwood Academy.

Meanwhile, Bruce Wayne had begun dating Vesper Fairchild, who was determined to get a picture of Batman in action. He'd also acquired a new bodyguard, who discovered he was Batman. Unable to make her resign, Batman trained Sasha Bordeuax, and introduced her to his world. She became Batman's partner of sorts, backing him up.

Throughout the year, Bruce Wayne was reunited with an old childhood friend, who now had a connection to organized crime. He also clashed with a man named Zeiss, who bested Batman on several occasions. Batman eventually enlisted Batgirl's aid, and Zeiss was arrested for murder.

Batman continued to push his associates away, until only Sasha remained with him. He then dumped his girlfriend Vesper. Shortly afterward, he was arrested for her murder when she was found dead in Wayne Manor.

As for Superman...he got the Kryptonite Ring back from Luthor with Batman's help, he got pissed off about OWAW...and he changed his look. He also got Krypto. Oh, and Luthor knows Kent is Superman now...

[The Guard]

I guess if you want I can tell you what's happened to Robin. I don't read Nightwing, so I know the basics there...

[austin norsworthy]

Oh thank you, thank you, thank you! your on my buddy list. yeah, I would like to know what has happened in robin. I only collect tradepaper backs, because I'm afraid that if I do collect the comics, I won't have enough storage space, and then I'll want to get every other issue.

[The Guard]

ROBIN:

Ok. I assume you want to know Tim Drake's history, as well as "current affairs".

A LONELY PLACE OF DYING

Tim Drake is one of the only people to deduce who Batman and Robin are. After Dick Grayson became Nightwing, Batman started to become more brutal, and careless. Tim realized that Batman needed someone to temper his darker side, and set out to reunite the dynamic duo. He tailed Dick Grayson, and eventually convinced Dick to help Batman take down Two-Face. But Dick refused to be Robin again. He was Nightwing now. Tim, desperate to see Batman with Robin again, donned the Robin costume in the glass case, the memorial to Jason Todd. He was instrumental in rescuing Batman and Nightwing, and helping to apprehend Two-Face. Initially angry with Tim about using the Robin suit, Batman softened, and decided to train Tim. Only when he was READY, would he become the next Robin.

While Tim was training, his parents, who traveled a lot, were hijacked and kidnapped by a crazed medicine man called The Obeah Man, who ransomed them.

Batman went to rescue the Drakes, but the Obeah Man was determined that the Drakes would die. As they were extremely thirsty, he allowed them to have a drink of water. Tim's mother drank the water, and Jack, Tim's father, started as well. Batman arrived, and knocked the water away. But it was too late. Tim's mother was dead, and Jack was in a deep coma.

Back in Gotham, Tim used his detective skills to track down a hacker, who turned out to be the teenaged supervillain Anarky.

Batman returned to Gotham with bad news. Now more determined to become Robin, Tim wanted it badly. But Batman was protective. He refused to let Tim become Robin yet, and threatened to never let Tim be Robin if he disobeyed Batman's orders and left the manor. But while Batman was on what seemed like a routine case, Tim discovered that The Scarecrow was behind it, and Batman was walking into a trap. Donning a ski mask and taking various objects with him, Tim managed to infiltrate The Scarecrow's hideout, where he found Batman and Vicki Vale being tortured with Scarecrow's fear gas. Tim confronted Scarecrow, who sprayed HIM with fear gas. As he cowered on the floor, Tim realized that even though he was scared, he could still act. He lashed out with a staff, sending The Scarecrow toppling into a shelf of his own toxins. Then Tim vanished, and waited for Batman's punishment.

Batman was angry, but when Tim explained that he hadn't worn the suit because he didn't want to disgrace what Dick and Jason stood for, he told Tim that sometimes heroes get to break the rules. He told Tim that he was the new Robin. He created a new Robin suit for Tim, one not tied to the other two, and Tim became Robin.

ROBIN: A HERO REBORN

Tim wasn't ready. Not yet. So he went to Europe to learn street smarts from some of Batman's old masters. Once there, he became involved in a sinister plot involving one of the deadliest men in the world, Edmund Dorrance, The King Snake. Along with an ex-CIA operative and Lady Shiva, who had been watching King Snake in hopes of fighting him, Robin saved thousands of lives. When he returned, Batman was waiting for him, proud, and they were ready to be partners.

[The Guard]

FLYING SOLO

Operating as Batman's partner, but also on his own, Tim was already a great Robin. He proved it further when he foiled The Joker while Batman was away.

When he and Batman were trailing a Riddler-like criminal called The Cluemaster, Batman and Robin ran across his daughter, a teenage vigilante determined to get her father back into prison, calling herself The Spoiler. Batman didn't totally approve of her, but he let her operate. Tim discovered her secret ID, Stephanie Brown, and the two became friends.

Tim also befriended a young girl named Adriana, who had been sold into slavery. After Robin rescued her, he became her boyfriend as Tim Drake. When he and Adriana broke up, it didn't take long for he and Spoiler to become "an item".

Tim has dealt with everything from school shootings and corrupt ninja camps to the psychotic Maxie Zeus.

KNIGHTQUEST

During the period of time when Jean Paul Valley was Batman, Tim was shut out of the cave, and almost beat to death by the former avenging angel. He tried to hold Valley's anger in check, but failed.

CONTAGION

Tim was one of many Gothamites who became infected with a deadly strain of the Ebola virus during an act of biological warfare by Ra's Al Ghul. He, Nightwing, and Batman raced to find a cure, and eventually did.

YOUNG JUSTICE

Tim is one of the three founding members of the teenage supergroup Young Justice. Along with Impulse and Superboy, Tim formed a Junior JLA to combat evil when all the adults disappeared from Earth.

CATACLYSM

His home ruined, Tim moved with his family to Keystone City,
where he teamed up with The Flash and Superman to stop Captain Boomerang and The Riddler.

NML

During No Man's Land, Tim ran away from his home in Keystone City to return to Gotham and help out as Robin. He single-handedly took down Mr. Freeze, Killer Croc, and a number of smaller thugs.

SINS OF YOUTH

As the result of the antics of Klarion...bum bum BUM...the Witch Boy, Tim became an adult, and enjoyed a brief stint as Batman before he was returned to his former teenage self.

A NEW BEGINNING

He was "rescued" from NML, and sent to a boarding school outside Gotham, called Brentwood Academy. Tim encountered Man-Bat and his family at Brentwood, as well as a murderous demon, and the cult known as Kobra.

Lately, Tim and Spoiler have had their problems. After Batman revealed Tim's ID to Spoiler because he didn't want to go to Brentwood and run into Alfred, Tim, feeling betrayed and angry at Batman, drifted away from him, and they have yet to reconcile.

Any questions?

[austin norsworthy]

thanks for that review. I didn't want to know the complet history, but that gave me more information. thanks.