Most annoying Scooby-Doo character

[Wussycat]

I'm going with Scrappy, of course.

[magicdog]

Tough decision.

Scrappy would be number one but Scooby Dum would be a close second. There are times I'd give anything to be a fly on the wall at meetings when creators, animators, et al get together to come up with characters like them.

At least Dum wasn't in too many eps and was a lot quieter compared with Scrappy.

[Tobias]

Gotta go with Freddie from 'Pup'. How did a character as dumb as that grow up to be what we saw in 'Where are you?' and the other pre-Pup series? And what's worse, the Pup incarnation is the version they went with in the movies.

[kylekool150]

Yes scrappy is very annoying.

[STARTOUNZ]

If we were go by characters' voices, I'd say Velma. Though Nicole Jaffe and Pat Stevens were good in the role, I couldn't stand Maria Frumpkin's voice after she replaced the latter. B.J. Ward was a huge improvement for the first direct to video/DVD movies and Johnny Bravo, but Mindy Cohn's nasal voice is so irritating, it was a major turnoff when WNSD came along. She was the second worst overall.

[Deadman]

scrappy.

[Dub]

Everyone is going to say Scrappy - which is the obvious choice - but I'm gonna have to buck the trend and go with Flim-Flam.

While Scrappy's unwanted prominence after his first season is what ultimately destroyed the first generation of Scooby Doo, Flim-Flam (a terrible attempt at giving Scrappy a foil much like Scooby/Shaggy) was arguably worse. A con man dressed as a little mexican kid in a yellow jumpsuit? NO THANK YOU SIR. :)

As for Dum - I've always been fond of him in a strange way. He only appeared in like 2 or 3 episodes of the entire series combined. So its not a big deal really.

[G1Ravage]

I actually liked Scrappy. He was the only one willing to put up a fight while everyone else turned tail and ran whenever a "monster" appeared.

[The Cartoon]

I actually liked Scrappy. He was the only one willing to put up a fight while everyone else turned tail and ran whenever a "monster" appeared.
Agreed. Scrappy got a bad rep because of the Scooby-Doo Movie.

[Mad Mod 49]

Agreed. Scrappy got a bad rep because of the Scooby-Doo Movie.

He had a bad rep waaay before that, his bad rep is WHY he was the villain in the movie (maybe I'm alone on this, but I actually think he's great as a villain. I like him in the movie, but not in the shows.)

[sag_2002]

I went with "None of the above". I'm in the minority of people who tolerated Scrappy, and "Pup"-era Fred had a few laughs, especially with his "Red Herring is the villian" running gag.

[Brainatra]

I voted for Flim-Flam as the lamest, though the other characters above (including Scrappy) never really bugged me.

While not a huge fan, I think Scrappy's bad reputation sounds like it's the result of some fellow Gen-X-er of mine deciding that Scrappy sucked, wrote some book/movie/etc. that used it as some pop-culture joke, and it spread bigtime... or something. (If he were that unpopular originally, I figure he wouldn't have lasted a good decade on the various Scooby spinoffs...).

[Sidewinder1984]

What about Yabba-Doo and Deputy Dusty?

(Not that I have anything against those characters especially. But others might do...)

[Eric B]

I voted for Flim-Flam as the lamest, though the other characters above (including Scrappy) never really bugged me.

While not a huge fan, I think Scrappy's bad reputation sounds like it's the result of some fellow Gen-X-er of mine deciding that Scrappy sucked, wrote some book/movie/etc. that used it as some pop-culture joke, and it spread bigtime... or something. (If he were that unpopular originally, I figure he wouldn't have lasted a good decade on the various Scooby spinoffs...).
On my page, http://members.aol.com/bdmnqr2/scoobystory.html I point out:

The Scrappy-haters have fabricated their own history and reality to justify their own opinions of him! It seems many of them are younger fans born around the time Scrappy appeared or later, who were not alive or were too young to remember the series when new and the changes leading up to Scrappy. They get all their information from older Scrappy haters, who themselves didn't seem to know what was going on. This would be why they could see a 1978 episode as being as good as or even apart of the original "Where Are You?", (they all played side by side in syndication, and all would be equally "original" to them) and of course, Scrappy (then dominating the network shows) ruined it all. This age difference would also explain why hatred of Scrappy is so rampant now, yet not reflected in the original ratings when it first aired. The older viewers [like my age] who didn't mind Scrappy so much are less vocal than today's fans. I grew up through the whole thing, watching from the very beginning, and Scrappy was nothing more than a later cartoon fad. I consider myself a "Scooby purist", favoring the first four seasons like everyone else, but later on, when I saw all the older episodes side by side in syndication, the inferiority of later ones stood out, and it became clear that Scrappy actually helped keep the show going.

This I basically gathered from participating in discussion both here ond on the old Usenet Cartoon groups where people explained why they thought Scrappy ruined the show. The fact that many of those same critics saw the season before Scrappy as part of the "original" with him popping out of nowhere and ruining it shows the issue is one of perception. (And we see how the same writers/producers who have cast him in a negative light or written him off uphold that "scooby Doo Show" period, using several of its villains in one live action and animated movie apiece). Thankfully, as evidenced in even this thread, the anti-Scrappy sentiment has subsided a bit. This new program with the redesigned gang and format may also take Scrappy's place as "the worst event in Scooby's history".

I was hoping they would reconcile Scrappy with the gang to undo the First movie (make that fake somewhow; like maybe some Scrappy hater contoliing a robot of him or something). Isn't Scooby Doo III supposed to come out this year? I thought I had heard about it after the second movie, but now you hear nothing about it.

[magicdog]

It seems many of them are younger fans born around the time Scrappy appeared or later, who were not alive or were too young to remember the series when new and the changes leading up to Scrappy. They get all their information from older Scrappy haters, who themselves didn't seem to know what was going on.


I doubt that. I'm from the "Gen X" crowd who enjoyed the series until 1978. I remember when Scappy came along and even as a kid I knew it was a desperate way to shake up the series by having a cowardly dog and his (big twist) brave little nephew. IMO the show DID go down hill because the focus was moving closer to Shag Scoob & Scrappy while the rest of the gang were shoved to the back. Even a kid can tell when a show isn't fun to watch anymore - and Scrappy was a big part of that. Sure the formula itself was wearing thin also (yet another phoney monster the kids managed to unmask) but the dynamics were changing. Now with syndication, being able to see several versions of the show on TV and DVD, viewers are noticing the slide more than ever.

[New Noise]

Without question, Scrappy-Doo. When they created the character, I knew we were going to be in for some big trouble...

[The Cartoon]

Ok Who Voted Scooby-doo!

[Eric B]

IMO the show DID go down hill because the focus was moving closer to Shag Scoob & Scrappy while the rest of the gang were shoved to the back. Even a kid can tell when a show isn't fun to watch anymore - and Scrappy was a big part of that. Sure the formula itself was wearing thin also (yet another phoney monster the kids managed to unmask) but the dynamics were changing. Now with syndication, being able to see several versions of the show on TV and DVD, viewers are noticing the slide more than ever. But as I said, the slide was already occurring, and the focus was already Shaggy and Scooby and their comedy antics, with the rest of the gang taking a back seat, so Scrappy and the abolition of the gang was the next logical step. At first, I turned completely away from it, but then I had been falling away from the newer episodes right before Scrappy anyway, as it just wasn't the same thing anymore; just another "action-adventure" series. It was later when they began inching back to the mystery format with fresh new ideas that I began to appreciate Scrappy, and then I came to prefer the ones with just the three of them to the last season before Scrappy, because at least the comedy shorts did not pretend to be the old classic mystery format like those did (which was like a letdown), yet Shaggy and Scooby were still their same old selves running from the monsters just like in the mysteries. That was what those later "mysteries" were all about anyway, so why not have entire short stories about them? Then it circled back around anyway.

I just for the first time saw the WNSD episode about the clown, and Velma and Shaggy "switched places", and seeing Shaggy serious and even taking charge at times was very much like the 1969 series. The rest of the new show has basically gotten back to the "Shaggy and Scooby as comedic chickens" routine, with a point of them being the bait, etc., so basically, the whole change in the Scrappy era is being repeated now with this new series primarily about Shaggy and Scooby once again.

[Uncle_Lina]

I never really found Scrappy-Doo that annoying as a kid, but when I started re-watching some old video tapes I realised how annoying he really was.
DAH-DAH-DAH DAH DAH-DAH PUPPY POWER!! *Shudders*

[Tobias]

I only found Scrappy annoying in the first year, when he had his 'grown up' voice. When he started sounding like a child, I started appreciate him more. Then in 'The New Scooby Doo & Scrappy Doo Show' when Daphne returned, Scrappy basically took over Fred's role in the gang, and I kind of liked him a bit more.

'13 Ghosts' still remains one of my favorite seasons, but they really should have used Fred & Velma instead of Flim Flam.

[Eric B]

I only found Scrappy annoying in the first year, when he had his 'grown up' voice. When he started sounding like a child, I started appreciate him more.Ironic, isn't it?
In addition to the voice, he was a bit more troublesome, and not as helpful in the first season. They had improved him a lot in the ones with just Shaggy and Scooby, and he could make good and actually beat many of the bad guys he challeneged. A lot of people had probably seen the first season only, and judged him purely based on that.

[Mister Intensity]

But as I said, the slide was already occurring, and the focus was already Shaggy and Scooby and their comedy antics, with the rest of the gang taking a back seat, so Scrappy and the abolition of the gang was the next logical step. At first, I turned completely away from it, but then I had been falling away from the newer episodes right before Scrappy anyway, as it just wasn't the same thing anymore; just another "action-adventure" series. It was later when they began inching back to the mystery format with fresh new ideas that I began to appreciate Scrappy, and then I came to prefer the ones with just the three of them to the last season before Scrappy, because at least the comedy shorts did not pretend to be the old classic mystery format like those did (which was like a letdown), yet Shaggy and Scooby were still their same old selves running from the monsters just like in the mysteries. That was what those later "mysteries" were all about anyway, so why not have entire short stories about them? Then it circled back around anyway.

I just for the first time saw the WNSD episode about the clown, and Velma and Shaggy "switched places", and seeing Shaggy serious and even taking charge at times was very much like the 1969 series. The rest of the new show has basically gotten back to the "Shaggy and Scooby as comedic chickens" routine, with a point of them being the bait, etc., so basically, the whole change in the Scrappy era is being repeated now with this new series primarily about Shaggy and Scooby once again.

It is ironic that history is repeating itself regarding the Scooby-Doo format with the Gang being jetisioned in favor of more Shaggy and Scooby antics. What's New's third season was stuck in a rut that required a drastic change in order to keep the Scooby franchise viable. While there were some stuff about What's New that I liked, once again, Fred, Daphine, and Velma were the weak links of the show (particularly Fred and Velma), although this time I think they tried to make them too comedic and the audience just didn't buy it. Interestingly, one thing What's New did right was to recognize Shaggy's intelligence, too bad they made him too aware of his role as "the bait."

Mister Intensity