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Space Cadet
08-12-2006, 10:56 PM
Where's Landstander's witty comments. =(
I didn't see one and the movie is coming up, so here it is.
And it's rated TV-14-LV
Timmay
08-12-2006, 11:03 PM
Young Sesshy. Sounds the same as old Sesshy.
NahMan85
08-12-2006, 11:03 PM
How long is this movie anyway? Also What does the schedule look for tonight?
Majin_Megabyte
08-12-2006, 11:03 PM
Time for the best of the Inuyasha movies with Movie 2 being 2nd place.
Space Cadet
08-12-2006, 11:04 PM
How long is this movie anyway? Also What does the schedule look for tonight?
The movie is 2 1/2 hours long. At 1:30, an episode of Inuyasha will air.
Domestic abuse.
MattThomasM2B
08-12-2006, 11:06 PM
Wow. Ain't this a dog?
I just saw this movie last night through Netflix. Half way through I wondered if CN had shown/would show it. I guess this is what I get for not keeping up with Adult Swim.
Anyway, I personally thought this movie was much better than the last two. Much better pacing.
Space Cadet
08-12-2006, 11:10 PM
I love it when scenes are reanimated in movie quality form.
It's just a volleyball Inuyasha.
Katsumara
08-12-2006, 11:12 PM
Heh. Inuyasha plays volleyball. XD
Also.. Inuyasha's papa pwns. ;o
Carlos
08-12-2006, 11:13 PM
Am I the only one who likes it when Inuyasha comes to the modern world?
Timmay
08-12-2006, 11:14 PM
Yeah Kagome, why can't you take off the beads of subjugation?
NahMan85
08-12-2006, 11:14 PM
The movie is 2 1/2 hours long. At 1:30, an episode of Inuyasha will air.
Domestic abuse.He he yeah really now.
So wait I thought both saigs' were created after sesshy and Inuy's father died? Or was that not the saiga's that their father was using?
Ryoutarou
08-12-2006, 11:15 PM
Am I the only one who likes it when Inuyasha comes to the modern world?I love it. The truck scene proved just why I love them.
Nimarmo
08-12-2006, 11:17 PM
He he yeah really now.
So wait I thought both saigs' were created after sesshy and Inuy's father died? Or was that not the saiga's that their father was using?
They were, but it is. The movies should basically be considered alternate realities.
Space Cadet
08-12-2006, 11:24 PM
Man, Tokyo always seems to be destroyed.
It's that disease from Princess Mononoke.
Railith
08-12-2006, 11:26 PM
That sword just violated Inuyasha.
Katsumara
08-12-2006, 11:27 PM
It's a Gundam!.. I mean.. where'd that come from..
Carlos
08-12-2006, 11:29 PM
If Inuyasha wanted your help he would have asked it, Akan...er, Kagome.
Well, Master Moron always wanted to see if Shippo would die. His wish almost came true.
NahMan85
08-12-2006, 11:33 PM
See none of this would be happening if Inuyasha would have just listened to the sheeth protecor guy. :sad: Man acording to this movie then Sessy must be like 50 years older than Inuyasha. :confused: Hmm so shipo being useless again. Snooze.
Space Cadet
08-12-2006, 11:37 PM
Heh, if 4Kids was dubbing this movie, they would have put dialouge in the character's mouths.
Majin_Megabyte
08-12-2006, 11:47 PM
Time for Fluffy Vs. Inuyasha!! Woot!!!
Space Cadet
08-12-2006, 11:51 PM
Yeah Kagome, why can't you take off the beads of subjugation?
That's why she doesn't take it off.:D
Katsumara
08-12-2006, 11:51 PM
So that's a powerful "Sit boy!" >.>
Carlos
08-12-2006, 11:58 PM
I wonder, editing-wise, how this movie would fare on Toonami.
NahMan85
08-13-2006, 12:17 AM
I wonder, editing-wise, how this movie would fare on Toonami.Camon now TN would never even think of airing this movie. We all know that.
Wow this movie rocks. Now I'm starting to see why people say this is the best movie of all the movies thus far. Cool.
I have another question: do we find out what actually happened to Inuy's mother? Or are we just supposed to assume that she lived and died as Inuy's father had said she should. Happily or something to that extent.
Space Cadet
08-13-2006, 12:17 AM
I like the bumps for this movie. Very stylized.
NahMan85
08-13-2006, 12:18 AM
I like the bumps for this movie. Very stylized.That and the animation is well done. Might even be better than all the other movies.
Railith
08-13-2006, 12:18 AM
So THAT'S why the sword is so moody.
Yes it's a low blow and I'm leaving this to your imagination.
tb4000
08-13-2006, 12:24 AM
Woooo..Team Inuyasha and Team Sesshomaru taking 'em down LOTR epic battle style. Go Jaken, it's your birthday.
Space Cadet
08-13-2006, 12:25 AM
So, is Koga in this movie(and in that case, is he in the fourth movie)?
Paul_Cousins
08-13-2006, 12:29 AM
I told you guys that IY Movie 3 was basically "Inuyasha versus the Army of Darkness". See, I wasn't joking. :cool:
Katsumara
08-13-2006, 12:29 AM
>.> lolKoga.
Anyway, yeah really. This animation kicks ass honestly. If Inuyasha was this good though the entire series, well.. that'd be a good anime, but alas.
Timmay
08-13-2006, 12:33 AM
Is that a different VA for Rin... she sounds weird..
FireStarterLE
08-13-2006, 12:37 AM
So, is Koga in this movie(and in that case, is he in the fourth movie)?
nope and nope. Kogaless for 4 movies, guess he's not in the right places when the feudal era does a casting call :confused:
Space Cadet
08-13-2006, 12:39 AM
Well, at least Miroku confesses his love for Sango. Inuyasha could take a cue from him.
Hyper Shadow X
08-13-2006, 12:57 AM
really liked this movie.
Railith
08-13-2006, 01:08 AM
A pretty good movie, but extremely awesome for Inuyasha standards.
Space Cadet
08-13-2006, 01:08 AM
Look at the credits go.
Timmay
08-13-2006, 01:09 AM
She's putting those beads on him again I bet.
Yep... More reason to hate Kagome.
Classic Speedy
08-13-2006, 01:10 AM
Animation definitely took a step up in the second half, naturally with the climax battles. Though my favorite part of the movie was Inu-Yasha going bezerk when the sword's power had wrapped itself around his arm.
Space Cadet
08-13-2006, 01:11 AM
Heh, The Ocean Group has their own logo now.
BigBear
08-13-2006, 01:11 AM
That's 3 for 3. Every movie has ended with a SIT command from Kagome.
The Myst
08-13-2006, 01:13 AM
Inuyasha got to meet his father for the first time in what could've been huge character development for him but of course he said he had nothing to say to his dad and didn't care about it. So yeah, Rumiko maintains status quo. Yay!
They took off the enchanted beads earlier in the movie too but Kagome just put them back on him against his will because, of course, WE CAN'T DEVELOP THEIR RELATIONSHIP EITHER! If she had let him keep them off, then he might have come to appreciate her more which could've resulted in major developments in their retarded characters. And retarded doesn't mean stupid here. I'm using it's literal meaning of held-back. Of stunted. Their development is arrested. Stunted. Held-back. RETARDED! KAGOME AND INUYASHA ARE LITERALLY RETARDED! THEY'RE THE ULTIMATE CASE OF ARRESTED DEVELOPMENT!
Katsumara
08-13-2006, 01:13 AM
Well after the beads were destroyed and what not, I figured they'd appear around his neck with absolutely no explanation behind it.. like a lot of things, but Kagome gave him another set. How sweet.. for her. Not him I would guess.
And what the hell is this after the movie.. it just ruined the whole "after a good movie buzz.." - -;
Master Moron
08-13-2006, 01:19 AM
She's putting those beads on him again I bet.
Yep... More reason to hate Kagome.
Yep, Kagome's clearly a sadist. I really wish that one of these days Inu-yasha would get back at her somehow.
And what the hell is this after the movie.. it just ruined the whole "after a good movie buzz.." - -;
That would be Perfect Hair Forever. An anime parody that fails to parody anything.
PickHut
08-13-2006, 01:20 AM
The last half of the movie went on waaaaaay longer than it should have. Sess and Inuyasha just kept fighting, and fighting, and fighting, until the attacks finally combined when Sesshomaru decided to butt in. Even then I don't think he was even trying to do that. As for the movie as a whole, it wasn't bad, there just seemed to be a whole lot of setting up for most of the movie, only for it to all come down to a battle that took ages to end.
Highlights: Inuyasha attacking a volleyball, Shippo almost getting killed by Inuyasha, and a few other stuff I can't remember right now.
The ending was horrible.
The Myst
08-13-2006, 01:20 AM
God I missed PHF. It's anime on an acid trip. Even more than FLCL. I love it.
DO DA LALALALALALALALALALALALALALALALA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Is it just me or did Kagome look like a man towards the end? In the face.
tb4000
08-13-2006, 01:20 AM
Yep, Kagome's clearly a sadist. I really wish that one of these days Inu-yasha would get back at her somehow.
Come now. You know in the universe of Inuyasha the womenfolk are never at fault and are always victims of their neanderthal and perverted male counterparts.
The Myst
08-13-2006, 01:22 AM
Come now. You know in the universe of Inuyasha the womenfolk are never at fault and are always victims of their neanderthal and perverted male counterparts.
Not to mention if she was actually nice to Inuyasha he might appreciate her and they might actually achieve something in their relationship.
NahMan85
08-13-2006, 01:24 AM
And what the hell is this after the movie.. it just ruined the whole "after a good movie buzz.." - -;Well then maybe this will help:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3RkWUHHrrGw
The only way you should here it.
Katsumara
08-13-2006, 01:24 AM
Well Inuyasha should really appreciate her sometimes a bit more. She has saved his ass a few times .. even though he's saved her's many many more times. Meh, she just wants to keep a collar around her man to keep him around =P
purplehairedwonder
08-13-2006, 01:25 AM
It was alright, but for all the people saying how good the movie was, I think my expectations were too high. I liked it... but not as much as I was expecting to.
LOL @ Inuyasha attacking the volleyball.
Inuyasha fighting the sword while it tried to possess him was pretty badass.
Apparently Sesshomaru has no one to protect :shrug:
Aww, Inuyasha finally knows what his daddy looks like now.
7.5/10
The Myst
08-13-2006, 01:25 AM
Well Inuyasha should really appreciate her sometimes a bit more. She has saved his ass a few times .. even though he's saved her's many many more times. Meh, she just wants to keep a collar around her man to keep him around =P
She wants to keep it on him because she's a ***** and Rumiko can't handle change in her characters.
tb4000
08-13-2006, 01:26 AM
Well Inuyasha should really appreciate her sometimes a bit more. She has saved his ass a few times .. even though he's saved her's many many more times. Meh, she just wants to keep a collar around her man to keep him around =P
We all can relate to that. Am I right, fellas? *rimshot*:sweat:
Scirel
08-13-2006, 01:29 AM
She wants to keep it on him because she's a ***** and Rumiko can't handle change in her characters.
In the movie's defense.. it was a movie. Somethign big like that should happen in the actual show. Sadly, it dosen`t.
The current storyline in the manga has the potential to connect with this movie though.
That would be Perfect Hair Forever. An anime parody that fails to parody anything.
Best description of the show I've seen. I watched every ep expecting them to make fun of an anime(and I love anime) but they didn`t do anything beyond giving the girl a very short "skirt". Appaently they felt giving some of the charachters big eyes was a parody.
Katsumara
08-13-2006, 01:29 AM
Well then maybe this will help:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3RkWUHHrrGw
The only way you should here it.
Yay. Buzz back. Thanks.. that's actually a really good AMV, mainly because I've always loved that song. -Bookmarks-
*NinjaEdit* Yeah. I know what PHF is.. just [as] has a bad way of adding crap right after something that's decent... and now as I speak the craptastic Inuyasha we all like to ignore is on now. Joy.
The Myst
08-13-2006, 01:34 AM
In the movie's defense.. it was a movie. Somethign big like that should happen in the actual show. Sadly, it dosen`t.
The current storyline in the manga has the potential to connect with this movie though.
Best description of the show I've seen. I watched every ep expecting them to make fun of an anime(and I love anime) but they didn`t do anything beyond giving the girl a very short "skirt". Appaently they felt giving some of the charachters big eyes was a parody.
1. Exactly my point. I don't care where it happens at this point, I JUST WANT DEVELOPMENT!!! I finally just snapped when I found out the series ends with no resolutions.
2. Gerald is a shonen cliche, Uncle Grandfather is totally Master Roshi, Gerald Bald Z, they're all there. The Wikipedia article lists them much better than I could.
Master Moron
08-13-2006, 01:47 AM
Well then maybe this will help:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3RkWUHHrrGw
The only way you should here it.
Is that song saying "pussy"?
Am I the only one who thought it was funny when Sheshoumaru thought of Jaken and Rin and then said "I have no one to protect!" Was that supposed to be a joke or what?
tb4000
08-13-2006, 01:50 AM
Is that song saying "pussy"?
Am I the only one who thought it was funny when Sheshoumaru thought of Jaken and Rin and then said "I have no one to protect!" Was that supposed to be a joke or what?
I think he knows that those two are basically his surrogate family, but could never bring himself to say it. They are the two he has to protect, though.
NahMan85
08-13-2006, 02:01 AM
Is that song saying "pussy"?
That is so wrong man. But your right I heard it to. Anyone want to try and translate those first few seconds? Maybe then we'll know why it sounds like it's saying well you know.
Why is everyone shocked Kagome put the bead necklace back on? Just because we're watching the movie around episode 156 or so doesn't mean it happens around then (Doesn't the movie take place around the 130's?). If she had kept the beads off, we would've seen InuYasha necklace-less in the show for the past 20-30 episodes.
Scirel
08-13-2006, 02:20 AM
2. Gerald is a shonen cliche, Uncle Grandfather is totally Master Roshi, Gerald Bald Z, they're all there. The Wikipedia article lists them much better than I could.
Those two are the only real ones, and they aren`t particularly cutting. I read the wikipedia artice and those you mentioned were the only real ones there."young boy on a quest" existed before and outside of anime, and "pervrted old man" isn`t particularly strong since nearly all of the ASC's have very perverted charachters. Tehcnobabble also exists/ed outside of anime too.
They have the things set up but they don`t really do anything with them that could be considered a parody. It`s nothing more than a regular ASC except the charachters have big eyes(some of them). It's all setup and no punchline.
OK, people. This isn't a Talkback for Perfect Hair Forever, it's for the 3rd InuYasha movie. If you wanna talk PHF, do it in the Anything Else thread.
Youko Recca
08-13-2006, 02:38 AM
I've found just about everything funny tonight. So it comes as no surprise that I laughed at Inuyasha's entire possession.
Captain Highwind
08-13-2006, 03:24 AM
Yep, Kagome's clearly a sadist. I really wish that one of these days Inu-yasha would get back at her somehow.
Whenever Takahashi decides to finish the story, she should have Inuyasha go on one more quest to find another set of beads. :evil:
Riza Hawkeye
08-13-2006, 04:47 AM
This is my favorite of the four movies, though I do like all of them, this one has been my favorite ever since saw it and even after I watched the fourth movie. I guess part of that is because I'm a big fan of Sesshoumaru and his role is largest in this film compared to the other films.
That is so wrong man. But your right I heard it to. Anyone want to try and translate those first few seconds? Maybe then we'll know why it sounds like it's saying well you know.The first line is: "Four scene of love and laughter"
About the whole bead thing, Kagome has to put the beads back on him, otherwise it wouldn't make sense in the series, for him to still have them on. Besides, the movies aren't really anything more than flashy filler, but they're still good nonetheless.
This movie came out in Japan between episodes 136 and 137, but that's not necessarily where it would fit in the story. The fourth movie, however, is set after the series. Also, it does not end with a sit command.
Fluffy just likes to pretend he doesn't have anyone to protect, it's clear that he does have someone (two someones actually) to protect. The whole 'someone to protect' for Sesshoumaru is really important in the manga right now.
A.Magik
08-13-2006, 07:55 AM
I've gotta agree that Kagomne was nasty in the end. I defended her epilogue actions in the last two films (because she was being insulted). Here, Kagome was a jerk, happily putting the beads on.
Then again, the beads have been solid insurance for Inu-Yasha's bouts of insanity.
A.Magik
CaptainRed
08-13-2006, 08:28 AM
[Swords created post mortem] They were, but it is. The movies should basically be considered alternate realities.
Technically, the swords couldn't have been created after their father died, as fangs have to be from a living donor to be forged into swords. Unless it's possible to leave demon teeth lying around for extended periods before forging, the swords had to have been made while he still lived.
Inuyasha got to meet his father for the first time in what could've been huge character development for him but of course he said he had nothing to say to his dad and didn't care about it. So yeah, Rumiko maintains status quo. Yay!
They took off the enchanted beads earlier in the movie too but Kagome just put them back on him against his will because, of course, WE CAN'T DEVELOP THEIR RELATIONSHIP EITHER! If she had let him keep them off, then he might have come to appreciate her more which could've resulted in major developments in their retarded characters. And retarded doesn't mean stupid here. I'm using it's literal meaning of held-back. Of stunted. Their development is arrested. Stunted. Held-back. RETARDED! KAGOME AND INUYASHA ARE LITERALLY RETARDED! THEY'RE THE ULTIMATE CASE OF ARRESTED DEVELOPMENT!
Best. Poster Gone Mad. Ever.
Truly, an inspired mania. *claps*
Also, what was Jonas Venture Sr. doing in this movie?
Patches
08-13-2006, 08:58 AM
Everything I could say about this movie was already said three years ago (http://www.inu-papa.com/inuyashagoya/april/thnktt.html) when the movie first came out in Japan. :P
Katsumara
08-13-2006, 11:08 AM
Ok, that was truly hillarious. Good read XD Sums up the movie in less than 5-10 minutes.
MattThomasM2B
08-13-2006, 01:16 PM
Everything I could say about this movie was already said three years ago (http://www.inu-papa.com/inuyashagoya/april/thnktt.html) when the movie first came out in Japan. :P
I'm on FIRE!!
herbkir
08-13-2006, 07:15 PM
Movie 3 was good except for how they got the necklace back on Inuyasha at the end to preserve continuity with the TV series. Having Kagome use a trick to put it back on Inu would be a betrayal of the trust that's been building between them. There were other ways the movie script could have gotten the necklace back on Inu. It's too bad they chose the quick but out-of-character way by having Kagome do it with trickery. It was a sour note to an otherwise good story.
On the plus side, we got glimpses of what Inu's and Sessho's father looked like, and Inu's mother's name pronounced. And baby Inuyasha was sooo cute.
And in light of the most recent manga chapters, it was really interesting when Seesho's father admonished him about needing to have someone to protect. And how in the movie he thinks of Rin and Jaken before saying he has nothing to protect. Suuuure, Fluffy!!
The animation in this movie was really good and flowed smoothly. But like movies 1 and 2, the character designs were noticeably different from the TV series, especially in how the eyes are done. Still, it was enjoyable. I taped it and will watch this again. (^_*)
Master Moron
08-13-2006, 07:48 PM
Why is everyone shocked Kagome put the bead necklace back on? Just because we're watching the movie around episode 156 or so doesn't mean it happens around then (Doesn't the movie take place around the 130's?). If she had kept the beads off, we would've seen InuYasha necklace-less in the show for the past 20-30 episodes.
We're not shocked that he still has the beads on by the end of the movie, we're shocked at how much of a ***** Kagome can be. I mean, putting those beads on has to be one of the worst things she's ever done. I mean, imagine if someone did something like that in real life. I mean, if someone put a collar around their significant other's neck so they could shock them whenever they got out of line they would be in jail. And you know, when she explained her action she kind of indicated that she wanted the necklace on Inu-yasha to protect him(like the way she used the necklace in this movie), but then she goes and says "sit" just for fun. I mean, she used to use the command when she's mad, now she does it for fun! When a guy beats his wife because he's angry it's pretty bad, when he beats his wife for fun it's even worse.
Anyway, they could have written a way for Inu-yasha to get the necklace back on without Kagome being a *****. For instance, you could have had Rin putting the necklace together for Kagome and then have Kagome trip and the necklace accidentally fall on Inu-yasha's neck.
Whenever Takahashi decides to finish the story, she should have Inuyasha go on one more quest to find another set of beads. :evil:
I think at this point Inu-yasha could murder Kagome and claim self defense.
Wounded_Dragon
08-13-2006, 08:20 PM
Movie 3 was good except for how they got the necklace back on Inuyasha at the end to preserve continuity with the TV series. Having Kagome use a trick to put it back on Inu would be a betrayal of the trust that's been building between them. There were other ways the movie script could have gotten the necklace back on Inu. It's too bad they chose the quick but out-of-character way by having Kagome do it with trickery. It was a sour note to an otherwise good story.
Considering the one scene where the beads plus Kagome helped free Inuyasha from that sword's control, it wouldn't have been too hard to write up a convincing scenario for getting the beads back on him.
But no, they have to go with the spousal-abuse angle that IY seems to love.
Rolling Cloud
08-13-2006, 09:05 PM
MAN, was this bloody!! YES, BLOODY! This was worth staying up for
and were the credits sped up or not, because they looked fast.
Space Cadet
08-13-2006, 09:45 PM
and were the credits sped up or not, because they looked fast.
When you see the credits moving at the speed of light, then yes they were sped up. So, yeah they were sped up.
FinnMacCool
08-14-2006, 12:01 AM
Great movie. The opening sequence was totally cool, what with finally getting to see Inuyasha's father, a glimpse into Sesshoumaru's youth, and that dark, dramatic, and action packed scene in the burning building. After that things kinda dropped down to "meh" for a while until Inuyasha was taken over by Soungo (though the volley ball and Kagome's accidental SIT! command were pretty funny). The scene of Inuyasha attacking the village was very cool and cinematic, and from there on we get more and more fights, all of them very cool. My two favorite moments during the movie would have to be during the big fight at the end, the part where Inuyasha is fighting Takimaru and turns the "humans are arrogant and greedy" thing into a positive to pull of a win, and the moment when Sesshomaru finally decides to protect someone (though, in classic Sesshy fashion, absolutely refusing to admit it). And, between those two, was the funniest scene in the movie where everyone beats up Jaken, great stuff!
Now, as soon as I saw the final scene, I knew people would be complaining about it, but I'd like to remind people of something: this isn't someone ordinary person getting slammed into the ground, it's Inuyasha. He's been thrown through rocks, been blasted by demonic energy, and had poisonous claws slammed through his chest. I imagine the SIT! commands, while Inuyasha complains about them hurting, I really don't think most of them do anymore damage then getting a playfully punched in the arm by someone who doesn't quite know their own strength. I mean, think about it, except for a couple occasions when Kagome's SIT! commands have been unusually powerful or been one right after another and another and another, they don't seem to phase Inuyasha much; you never see any bruises, cuts, or black eyes on him after doing a face plant
The Myst
08-14-2006, 12:53 AM
Now, as soon as I saw the final scene, I knew people would be complaining about it, but I'd like to remind people of something: this isn't someone ordinary person getting slammed into the ground, it's Inuyasha. He's been thrown through rocks, been blasted by demonic energy, and had poisonous claws slammed through his chest. I imagine the SIT! commands, while Inuyasha complains about them hurting, I really don't think most of them do anymore damage then getting a playfully punched in the arm by someone who doesn't quite know their own strength. I mean, think about it, except for a couple occasions when Kagome's SIT! commands have been unusually powerful or been one right after another and another and another, they don't seem to phase Inuyasha much; you never see any bruises, cuts, or black eyes on him after doing a face plant
It's still mean.
For those wondering why Fluffy looked basically the same in the intro: I believe it's been established that Sesshomaru is a LOT older than InuYahsa (who, what, about 70 or 80 right now?), and since Inu's pops was a couple hundred years old when he died (at least, I imagine that to be the case, given all the stories they've told about him in the series), it's not hard to imagine that Fluffy is around 100-150 years old. Demons age slower than humans, remember.
CaptainRed
08-14-2006, 01:23 AM
Now, as soon as I saw the final scene, I knew people would be complaining about it, but I'd like to remind people of something: this isn't someone ordinary person getting slammed into the ground, it's Inuyasha. He's been thrown through rocks, been blasted by demonic energy, and had poisonous claws slammed through his chest. I imagine the SIT! commands, while Inuyasha complains about them hurting, I really don't think most of them do anymore damage then getting a playfully punched in the arm by someone who doesn't quite know their own strength. I mean, think about it, except for a couple occasions when Kagome's SIT! commands have been unusually powerful or been one right after another and another and another, they don't seem to phase Inuyasha much; you never see any bruises, cuts, or black eyes on him after doing a face plant
Since the domestic violence topic has already been broached in this thread, and that justification seemed particularly galling to me:
How hard does he have to be hit for the hits to be too hard? These aren't small love taps or anything. No soft punches in fun -- these are heavy and forceful. So is spousal abuse okay when it doesn't kill the victim? Or when the effects aren't readily visible?
That was just a badly bull****ed in-universe explanation, and one that shows a disturbing flippancy towards the violence.
(Note: I'm not against the existence of the beads, nor his having them on... just the implications of that explanation)
Timmay
08-14-2006, 01:42 AM
You know, in most cases of the female lead attacking the male lead in a comical sense... there's usually some passable justification. In Inuyasha that's not really the case.
If Inuyasha fails to decipher the codespeak in which she relates her feelings to him, he of course is at fault and must be dealt pain.
How hard does he have to be hit for the hits to be too hard? These aren't small love taps or anything. No soft punches in fun -- these are heavy and forceful.
They are to us, but not really to him, though. I mean, hell, he had a hole in his friggin chest and not only still fought at reasonably full strength, but healed up in about a week or so (and even then, was still able to fight powerful demons and do some damage). Most of the "sits" are minor annoyances for him, kinda like a slap on the head, nothing more.
Lutochris
08-14-2006, 03:29 AM
Jesus christ people, it's a cartoon love story between a teenager and a 70+ year old demon, whose mutual stubbornness prevents either one from understanding the other. It's cute and funny, it's not freaking spousal abuse, nor does it advocate spousal abuse. Quit taking it so goddam seriously.
BTW the Inuyasha movies are awesome and each one has been better than the previous (so far).
moumantai
08-14-2006, 03:38 AM
Am I the only one who thought it was funny when Sheshoumaru thought of Jaken and Rin and then said "I have no one to protect!" Was that supposed to be a joke or what?
Fluffy just likes to pretend he doesn't have anyone to protect, it's clear that he does have someone (two someones actually) to protect. The whole 'someone to protect' for Sesshoumaru is really important in the manga right now.
he was lying you know hed never admit that he cares for someone
Ykwia
08-14-2006, 05:21 AM
I'm SU182, and I enjoyed the movie, So I'm going to describe it in a review,
Prepare to replace your entire DVD collection cause it will be obsolete, This movie will make your entire mind explode with exicement, Inuyasha: The Movie 3 will exicte you in every way possible. The voice acting is great in this movie, These are done by the actual cast of the TV show, They even used some voice effects to make it more authentic. It's even improved in this movie, Anyways, The voice acting is great. The quality of the animation is greatly improved from the anime as usual, and I just love to see old scenes redone with movie quality animation, Somthing you'll never see in the anime, and the movie introduces pretier graphical effects than in the anime. You'll also get your share of action here, Ever since Samuel L. Jackson killed Snakes on a Plane, Action here has been real intense, Snakes on a Plane intense, This movie has so much action that your brain can't comprehend the action that's going on, and this movie has marked the first time that all Minor Charaters has been in close range. You'll be amazed as you see all the charaters fighting the dead incarnations and you'll be amazed on how Inuyasha and Sisheromu team up plus you'll get to see Inuyasha's Father. Now you can be amazed on how much has been covered and how much action there is. What I'm trying to say is that this movie is the best movie ever, It's even eligiable to win an Emmy, Golden Globe, Oscar, and many other Movie Awards, You should go out and buy it now.
***** / *****
SU182's Recomended Choice and Editor's Award.
Greek Honeybee
08-14-2006, 10:02 AM
We're not shocked that he still has the beads on by the end of the movie, we're shocked at how much of a ***** Kagome can be.
I think at this point Inu-yasha could murder Kagome and claim self defense.
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It was a joke, people.
You guys really want to see him smacking her face into the ground? Watch episode 5. She lived. She didn't cry. She didn't run away. You really think someone with his strength and constitution, several times greater than hers, is going to go around whining and crying "abuse" from some slapstic comedy even she can handle?
There's no physical, emotional, or psychological damage whatsoever. So I can't see how it can be called "abuse" by any definition.
tb4000
08-14-2006, 11:28 AM
What it really boils down to is, we're guys, and we're supposed to be able to man up and take it when our females get agitated or angry or upset with us, regardless if it's our fault or not. I don't totally agree with that, but that is the general consensus.
Swordfish_II
08-14-2006, 02:55 PM
For those wondering why Fluffy looked basically the same in the intro: I believe it's been established that Sesshomaru is a LOT older than InuYahsa (who, what, about 70 or 80 right now?), and since Inu's pops was a couple hundred years old when he died (at least, I imagine that to be the case, given all the stories they've told about him in the series), it's not hard to imagine that Fluffy is around 100-150 years old. Demons age slower than humans, remember.I believe at one point it's pretty explicately stated that Inuyasha's dad died 200 years ago.
I believe at one point it's pretty explicately stated that Inuyasha's dad died 200 years ago.
My mind kept saying it was 200 years ago, but I wasn't completely certain on that.
EDIT: Oh yea, and I completely gloss over the fact that the movie even states it's 200 years (since that's how long Myoga and Tottosai believe So'ounga's been sealed).
Wounded_Dragon
08-14-2006, 03:36 PM
They are to us, but not really to him, though. I mean, hell, he had a hole in his friggin chest and not only still fought at reasonably full strength, but healed up in about a week or so (and even then, was still able to fight powerful demons and do some damage). Most of the "sits" are minor annoyances for him, kinda like a slap on the head, nothing more.
"Taps" can add up. A girl in school years ago liked to hit on my arm (no, she wasn't nice or hitting on me, just being mean). I eventually got a habitual bruise there which didn't fully heal up till midway through summer break.
Second, all those instances are ones Inuyasha chose. There's a possibility of fighting back. The whole point of the beads is so that he CAN'T fight back, to make him subservient to her will. Sure, that's not always how she uses it and it probably never even occurs to her when she does use it like that, but the beads are basically a slave collar.
zipster
08-14-2006, 03:58 PM
I thought the movie was great. I liked all of it.
shaman_mya19
08-14-2006, 05:56 PM
i am little mad i didn't see the movie but i will get it on dvd!!! since i got the first movie dvd yesterday
CaptainRed
08-15-2006, 01:02 AM
They are to us, but not really to him, though. I mean, hell, he had a hole in his friggin chest and not only still fought at reasonably full strength, but healed up in about a week or so (and even then, was still able to fight powerful demons and do some damage). Most of the "sits" are minor annoyances for him, kinda like a slap on the head, nothing more.
So then why does Inuyasha tend to yelp in pain whenever he gets a sit command?
Jesus christ people, it's a cartoon love story between a teenager and a 70+ year old demon, whose mutual stubbornness prevents either one from understanding the other. It's cute and funny, it's not freaking spousal abuse, nor does it advocate spousal abuse. Quit taking it so goddam seriously.
I agree with you... however, I find the in-universe justifications presented so far to be flawed, at best, and disturbing, at worst. The "spousal abuse," topic arises from in-universe discussion. From a cartoon perspective, this is about on par with "duck season FIRE!"
You guys really want to see him smacking her face into the ground? Watch episode 5. She lived. She didn't cry. She didn't run away. You really think someone with his strength and constitution, several times greater than hers, is going to go around whining and crying "abuse" from some slapstic comedy even she can handle?
There's no physical, emotional, or psychological damage whatsoever. So I can't see how it can be called "abuse" by any definition.
There is also no good reason for him to wear, as Wounded Dragon puts it, a slave collar.
What it really boils down to is, we're guys, and we're supposed to be able to man up and take it when our females get agitated or angry or upset with us, regardless if it's our fault or not. I don't totally agree with that, but that is the general consensus.
If that's true, then women should be wearing dresses rather than pants, shouldn't hold jobs, and should stay in the kitchen making our dinners.
Consensus does not change something from being wrong into being right.
Why should men be forced to maintain onerous stereotypes of ages past when women are allowed to break them?
So then why does Inuyasha tend to yelp in pain whenever he gets a sit command?
He yelps more at the sudden jolt the necklace does than the impact.
Freedom Fighter
08-15-2006, 02:47 AM
I can't believe it, but I actually came back to 'Inuyasha' for the first time in a year just to see the third movie, claimed by many as the best movie of the show's movies. Not really sure if it holds up to that claim, as I don't remember the first two.
First off... I had to catch the 2 am showing, so... points for not putting me to sleep!
As for the movie itself... I agree, Sesshomaru (usually) makes things better, and this feature is no exception. It's sibling rivalry (or just plain stubbornness?) in it's entirety. I liked both of their fights, especially the second at Takemaru's grave, where Sesshy just complete owns Inu.
Can you consider a sword a villain? I mean, it makes the wielder do evil things like kill all humans and open the gates of Hell, but technically... can we really call a sword a villain?
Just when I thought Shippo was about to do something useful, he actually does something that clearly makes him the most useless character in the show! Geese, even little Rin is a lot more useful than him!
Speaking of... what's up with possessed Takemaru kidnapping Kagome and Rin? Damsel-in-distress syndrome, much? And for one brief moment, Rin outshines Kagome 'cause she protects the elder from being killed. With her power to 'summon' Sesshomaru, of course! ;)
On that, kudos to Jaken, too, who actually gets a positive-resulting fighting scene.
Overall, it's nice to see that the 'status quo' has not changed at all in terms of the characters... you can always expect them to do their same gags. For the movie's individual qualities, I think they stack up decently. Inuyasha and Sesshomaru get to see their father, and, for a brief moment, work together. And this all after they stop the gates of Hell from opening thanks to a third sword their dad had that should've been destroyed long ago to begin with.
Hmmm... I guess we wouldn't have had a third movie without it, though.
6.5 out of 10 for "Inuyasha Movie 3: Swords of an Honorable Ruler."
CaptainRed
08-15-2006, 09:20 AM
He yelps more at the sudden jolt the necklace does than the impact.
That seems like too large of an assumption to be made on the evidence we have.
Dr. Anime
08-15-2006, 10:52 AM
Wow that movie was awsome! Much better then the other two. I'm not that excited about the 4th movie based on what I've heard, but I'll still watch it. I just hope they get the FMA movie soon.
Greek Honeybee
08-15-2006, 12:09 PM
There is also no good reason for him to wear, as Wounded Dragon puts it, a slave collar. Of course there is. He's an ass sometimes. If he didn't have someone to make him stop and think about his actions, he'd trample right into dangerous situations and all over people's feelings without a second thought.
And he's perfectly aware of that. Which is why we've never seen any evidence that he considers it a "slave collar". Apart from the first couple of episodes and this entirely non-canon movie, he has never once mentioned having it removed.
(Speaking of canon, the instances where she sits him that tend to get everyone's panties in a knot are the ones that are added in by the animation company, like this movie. In the manga, Kagome's not nearly as trigger-happy.)
Still, if it was so horrible and he wanted to break free that badly, he'd ditch Kagome. That easy. She can't sit him if he's not around. Kikyou has all the same abilities, so he could stick with her. But he doesn't. Why? He could be an idiot. But the only answer that makes sense is that it's not nearly as bad as your sympathy pains make it out to be. Why is that? Because whether it's from his half-demon heritage or he's just a toon, the fact remains that He's Not Like You.
If that's true, then women should be wearing dresses rather than pants, shouldn't hold jobs, and should stay in the kitchen making our dinners.
Consensus does not change something from being wrong into being right.
Why should men be forced to maintain onerous stereotypes of ages past when women are allowed to break them? I don't remember that being the consensus, at least not in the past fifty years or so. Where have you been?
It's just the stereotype men themselves have maintained for so long. If you want to break it, you're all doing a damn good job. Because from what I'm hearing, the general consensus is that a human girl like Kagome can take that kind of "abuse" without batting an eye, but a half-demon like Inuyasha can't take it and should be sheltered and protected, simply because he's male. If that's the case, then maybe it's time for you guys to wear the dresses and stay in the kitchen, eh?
Sheesh. "He should be beating HER goddammit, not the other way around!" Really, guys.
Wounded_Dragon
08-15-2006, 02:57 PM
Battered women think they deserve it too. Doesn't make it so.
Greek Honeybee
08-15-2006, 04:23 PM
Battered women suffer needlessly from someone's whims. Whether they deserve it or not isn't even a consideration except in their own minds. Inuyasha is stopped in his tracks when he does something stupid and thoughtless.
Battered women suffer harmful emotional and psychological effects along with the physical beatings that can last for years. Inuyasha isn't harmed physically, emotionally or psychologically. He does something dumb, she says sit, and the whole thing's forgotten by the next scene. He displays more pain and misery when Kagome says "I hate you!" than when she says "Sit!"
Battered women become more distraught and desperate as time wears on. Inuyasha has become more happy, heroic and true to himself.
I don't get the connection.
Ykwia
08-15-2006, 05:05 PM
Battered women suffer needlessly from someone's whims. Whether they deserve it or not isn't even a consideration except in their own minds. Inuyasha is stopped in his tracks when he does something stupid and thoughtless.
Battered women suffer harmful emotional and psychological effects along with the physical beatings that can last for years. Inuyasha isn't harmed physically, emotionally or psychologically. He does something dumb, she says sit, and the whole thing's forgotten by the next scene. He displays more pain and misery when Kagome says "I hate you!" than when she says "Sit!"
Battered women become more distraught and desperate as time wears on. Inuyasha has become more happy, heroic and true to himself.
I don't get the connection.
I don't remember a scene like that.
Fafhrd
08-15-2006, 10:11 PM
For those wondering why Fluffy looked basically the same in the intro: I believe it's been established that Sesshomaru is a LOT older than InuYahsa (who, what, about 70 or 80 right now?), and since Inu's pops was a couple hundred years old when he died (at least, I imagine that to be the case, given all the stories they've told about him in the series), it's not hard to imagine that Fluffy is around 100-150 years old. Demons age slower than humans, remember.Actually, demons are imortal. They don't age and die, they can, however, be killed.
Actually, demons are imortal. They don't age and die, they can, however, be killed.
I thought that depended on the species of demon?
Wounded_Dragon
08-15-2006, 10:54 PM
If people resorted to violence when others did something stupid and thoughtless, there'd be mass riots all over the world.
Battered women suffer needlessly from someone's whims. Whether they deserve it or not isn't even a consideration except in their own minds.
Did you even watch the anime? This is EXACTLY how Kagome treats the SIT command. Moreover, there are long stretches where Kagome uses it just to get her way, even if it's nothing important, like appreciating her cooking. Combine that with the show's tendency to have the characters side with Kagome in any argument even when she's clearly in the wrong and it's not a pretty picture.
The crux of the matter is your best argument is that she treats him like a dog so he'll act like a human. Sentient beings don't work like that.
The beads were not placed on him as a learning tool. They were placed on him because they thought he was a killer. We then learn that is was because of Naraku's machinations. But do the beads come off? No, she doesn't want to lose her toy.
Greek Honeybee
08-16-2006, 01:14 AM
If people resorted to violence when others did something stupid and thoughtless, there'd be mass riots all over the world. True, but people usually don't have much choice but to resort to violence when the person doing something stupid and thoughtless happens to be exceedingly powerful and won't listen to reason.
If Kagome were the type to just stand by and let him walk all over her and everyone else, he never would've developed any respect for her whatsoever. He'd forever see her as weak and pathetic and not worth his time. Because he's so powerful, he needs someone who can stand up to him and get his attention.
Did you even watch the anime? This is EXACTLY how Kagome treats the SIT command. Moreover, there are long stretches where Kagome uses it just to get her way, even if it's nothing important, like appreciating her cooking. Combine that with the show's tendency to have the characters side with Kagome in any argument even when she's clearly in the wrong and it's not a pretty picture. Last I checked, insulting someone's cooking is still considered rude. Insulting your girlfriend's cooking is just asking for trouble, I don't care who she is.
There's only been one time I can think of when Kagome was clearly in the wrong when she used the command. After she healed Kikyou at the pool. He didn't do anything to provoke her. She was just pissed off. And she felt horrible about it afterwards and thought he'd probably hate her. But even then, he didn't. He wasn't even angry, just confused.
So if it's no big deal to him, even at her worst, then what's got you so bitter? Is it about that girl that kept hitting you?
The crux of the matter is your best argument is that she treats him like a dog so he'll act like a human. Sentient beings don't work like that. Right. Sounds more like the crux of your argument. You're not even listening to mine.
My argument is that the command isn't nearly as cruel and painful to him as it would be to you. What's so hard to grasp about that?
Besides,.. he is a dog. And he is a human. And he is learning. Takahashi would hardly be the first to suggest that dog training can work on people... So what's your point?
The beads were not placed on him as a learning tool. They were placed on him because they thought he was a killer. We then learn that is was because of Naraku's machinations. But do the beads come off? No, she doesn't want to lose her toy. It had nothing to do with Naraku. He was doing something stupid. He wanted the jewel and tried to scare her into dropping it by making a rather convincing show of trying to kill her.
While we now know he wasn't really about to kill anyone, his attitude and behavior hasn't become entirely civil yet.
Would you rather they'd just pinned him to the tree again?
Scirel
08-16-2006, 01:23 AM
6.5 out of 10 for "Inuyasha Movie 3: Swords of an Honorable Ruler."
Geez man, you sure do give really bad scores to shows you seem to review positively.
Wounded_Dragon
08-16-2006, 01:34 AM
Why am I "bitter?" Several reasons, and not all of them from you.
One, it's slave humor, no matter how much you say he likes i it.
Two, as others note it feeds on the notion that beating up men is funny.
Three, she's used the SIT to get her way more times than just one. I remember at least once he wanted to leave and she sat him so hard he dented the ground. This goes back to slave and battering behavior. It doesn't matter if it was a stupid decision on his part, it was HIS CHOICE. Nothing gives her the right to do that.
Fourth, the belief that violence is justified because "it didn't really hurt." Overall the show might be funny but trying to claim violent actions are inherently funny isn't.
Fifth, the beads and SIT are the absolute WORST part of the show. The manga dropped it long ago but the show kept the stupid joke around because the director says he can't do romance. Someone should tell him he can't do comedy that well either.
Sixth, you do know the story, right? Naraku did his little tricks to get Kikyo and Inuyasha to turn against each other.
By the way...since when are Kagome and Inuyasha together? Oh, I know they care about each other but neither has made any sort of formal claim or even a simple date.
Overall the show might be funny but trying to claim violent actions are inherently funny isn't.
Isn't that the whole point of Tom & Jerry? o.O
The Myst
08-16-2006, 07:21 AM
I personally never liked Tom & Jerry. Just saying, maybe he didn't either.
As for the argument that Inuyasha not appreciating Kagome's cooking was asking for trouble, I agree. But there's a big difference between her getting pissed off over it and her physically hurting him over it.
If this were real life, you'd be saying the girlfriend was nuts if she punched her boyfriend for not liking her cooking.
As for the argument that Inuyasha not appreciating Kagome's cooking was asking for trouble, I agree. But there's a big difference between her getting pissed off over it and her physically hurting him over it.
If this were real life, you'd be saying the girlfriend was nuts if she punched her boyfriend for not liking her cooking.
Eh, I'd equate it more of a slap than a punch.
Master Moron
08-16-2006, 04:59 PM
Eh, I'd equate it more of a slap than a punch.
I don't think it's appropriate to slap a guy because he doesn't like her cooking. Sure, it wouldn't injure a guy, but it would still hurt. And it still is a way of using violence as a method of communication. Using violence as a method of communication should never be considered a part of a healthy relationship, even if the person being hurt isn't injured.
tb4000
08-16-2006, 05:08 PM
I don't think it's appropriate to slap a guy because he doesn't like her cooking. Sure, it wouldn't injure a guy, but it would still hurt. And it still is a way of using violence as a method of communication. Using violence as a method of communication should never be considered a part of a healthy relationship, even if the person being hurt isn't injured.
Sango smacks Miroku with that big ass boomerang all the time. The thing she uses to SLAY DEMONS. Now that's abuse for you.
Greek Honeybee
08-16-2006, 08:05 PM
One, it's slave humor, no matter how much you say he likes i it. He's not a slave. Like I said, he can leave at any time. In fact, she's the one who asked if she could stay by his side, and he said yes.
Two, as others note it feeds on the notion that beating up men is funny. Apparently, it is in Japan. Because anime is filled with things like that. To them, the humor is in the irony of the situation.
Three, she's used the SIT to get her way more times than just one. I remember at least once he wanted to leave and she sat him so hard he dented the ground. This goes back to slave and battering behavior. It doesn't matter if it was a stupid decision on his part, it was HIS CHOICE. Nothing gives her the right to do that. He wanted to leave... what? Where? Could you be more specific?
If you can really respect his choice of bullying others into submission or ignoring those who care about him or getting himself killed to fulfill his pride, why can't you respect his choice to put up with it? Whatever you might feel about the command, being happy with her is apparently worth it to him.
Fourth, the belief that violence is justified because "it didn't really hurt." Overall the show might be funny but trying to claim violent actions are inherently funny isn't. You're talking in a general sense, while I'm being specific to Inuyasha's threshold of pain. If it were anyone else, I might agree with you.
By his standards, being impaled "really hurts". Sango once stabbed him through the arm and he just looked at her funny.
As I said, Kagome herself was "sat" in episode five. Inuyasha leaped out of a tree, grabbed her by the head on the way down, and slammed her face-first into the ground as he landed. Her face was messed up, but she barely batted an eye outside of annoyance. When she says the command, she's saying it with personal experience behind her that says if it was no big deal to her, it can't possibly be all that damaging or traumatic to someone like him.
That's how I look at it, anyway.
Fifth, the beads and SIT are the absolute WORST part of the show. The manga dropped it long ago but the show kept the stupid joke around because the director says he can't do romance. Someone should tell him he can't do comedy that well either. Actually, it still occurs in the manga. It's just become very rare because he's matured so much. He does occasionally slip into old habits, however.
Sixth, you do know the story, right? Naraku did his little tricks to get Kikyo and Inuyasha to turn against each other. Look, don't act like I don't know what I'm talking about. Not only have I seen all those episodes, I can outline for you the details of what was changed from the manga up to the final episode.
Inuyasha was pinned to the tree because of Naraku. Everything after the spell was broken was his own choice. He attacked Kagome because he wanted the jewel for himself. There's really not much more to it than that.
By the way...since when are Kagome and Inuyasha together? Oh, I know they care about each other but neither has made any sort of formal claim or even a simple date. A date? They've been traveling the better part of a year practically attached at the hip, together nonstop. A date at this point would be pretty redundant, don't you think?
I'm no expert on Japanese culture, but i'm pretty sure how comfortable and casual they are with each other is in itself a sign of intimacy they wouldn't share with just a friend.
For example, you wouldn't see Sango leaning against Inuyasha's shoulder without it being insanely awkward. And there's a reason why Miroku holds a woman's hand when asking her to bear his children, and Inuyasha get's furious when Kouga takes Kagome's hand. It's because they're considered romantic gestures, however subtle they may be. But Inuyasha and Kagome do those things pretty easily. To someone who didn't know them well, they might even assume they were already married. So, yeah. I consider them together, at a boyfriend/girlfriend level at least.
Fafhrd
08-16-2006, 08:09 PM
For those wondering why Fluffy looked basically the same in the intro: I believe it's been established that Sesshomaru is a LOT older than InuYahsa (who, what, about 70 or 80 right now?), and since Inu's pops was a couple hundred years old when he died (at least, I imagine that to be the case, given all the stories they've told about him in the series), it's not hard to imagine that Fluffy is around 100-150 years old. Demons age slower than humans, remember.This comment doesn't jibe with the idea that their father died 200 years ago. That makes Inuyasha about that age (and considering he looks and acts like he's 15, I can only guess that human years are to demons like dog years are to humans). And Sesshomaru must be a good couple of centuries older than that (again, in the scene at the start of the movie, he's young, but not a kid, more like a 17 or 18 year old).
Of course, we could just chalk all of this up to continuity failures on the part of the animators, too.
tb4000
08-16-2006, 08:12 PM
This comment doesn't jibe with the idea that their father died 200 years ago. That makes Inuyasha about that age (and considering he looks and acts like he's 15, I can only guess that human years are to demons like dog years are to humans). And Sesshomaru must be a good couple of centuries older than that (again, in the scene at the start of the movie, he's young, but not a kid, more like a 17 or 18 year old).
Of course, we could just chalk all of this up to continuity failures on the part of the animators, too.
They really need to show Sesshomaru back when he was a youngster. Unless he was all stoic and deadpan back then too.
Patches
08-16-2006, 09:09 PM
Actually, demons are imortal. They don't age and die, they can, however, be killed.
No they're not. Remember the arc we just got through in the anime? Housenki died a natural death, even though he was a "great" demon like Inuyasha's father.
It's just a weird translation choice to refer to humans as "mortals" when there was no such distinction in the original. Demons live hundreds, or occasionally thousands of years like Bokusenou, but they're not immortal.
Wounded_Dragon
08-16-2006, 10:43 PM
Inuyasha was pinned to the tree because of Naraku. Everything after the spell was broken was his own choice. He attacked Kagome because he wanted the jewel for himself. There's really not much more to it than that.
Of course there's more to it than that, but you actually have to look. Inuyasha's been an outcast for his whole life. The jewel would give him two choices, full demon or full human. Either choice would relieve him of a VERY heavy burden, either free him from persecution or ensure safety from most attackers.
Kikyo's apparent betrayal left him with only the full demon choice. And what's one of the first things that happen to him? He gets tagged with an obedience collar and forced to obey a human.
And you still haven't addressed the hypocrisy of treating him as inhuman and yet holding him accountable to human social norms.
This comment doesn't jibe with the idea that their father died 200 years ago. That makes Inuyasha about that age (and considering he looks and acts like he's 15, I can only guess that human years are to demons like dog years are to humans). And Sesshomaru must be a good couple of centuries older than that (again, in the scene at the start of the movie, he's young, but not a kid, more like a 17 or 18 year old).
Of course, we could just chalk all of this up to continuity failures on the part of the animators, too.
Well, remember that InuYasha was pinned to the tree for 50 years without aging at all (and unlike Ryokotsei, he wasn't sealed in a stone coating or anything like that, just in suspended animation). Who knows how long IY was alive before meeting Kikyo. And Fluffy looked the exact same now as he did back when MuttBoy got spiked.
Greek Honeybee
08-17-2006, 11:32 AM
Of course there's more to it than that, but you actually have to look. Inuyasha's been an outcast for his whole life. The jewel would give him two choices, full demon or full human. Either choice would relieve him of a VERY heavy burden, either free him from persecution or ensure safety from most attackers.
Kikyo's apparent betrayal left him with only the full demon choice. And what's one of the first things that happen to him? He gets tagged with an obedience collar and forced to obey a human. Naraku's original manipulations had, at most, an indirect influence on Inuyasha's choice to attack Kagome for the jewel later on.
Kagome's had a far greater and more direct influence on the fact that he wouldn't think of doing something like that now. But she would never have had the opportunity or the means to teach him that if not for the rosary.
And you still haven't addressed the hypocrisy of treating him as inhuman and yet holding him accountable to human social norms. Umm.. Yes I did...
Besides,.. he is a dog. And he is a human. And he is learning. Takahashi would hardly be the first to suggest that dog training can work on people... So what's your point?
(Emphasis not original, but you get my point.)
Captain Zechs
08-17-2006, 03:55 PM
I'm SU182, and I enjoyed the movie, So I'm going to describe it in a review,
Prepare to replace your entire DVD collection cause it will be obsolete, This movie will make your entire mind explode with exicement, Inuyasha: The Movie 3 will exicte you in every way possible. The voice acting is great in this movie, These are done by the actual cast of the TV show, They even used some voice effects to make it more authentic. It's even improved in this movie, Anyways, The voice acting is great. The quality of the animation is greatly improved from the anime as usual, and I just love to see old scenes redone with movie quality animation, Somthing you'll never see in the anime, and the movie introduces pretier graphical effects than in the anime. You'll also get your share of action here, Ever since Samuel L. Jackson killed Snakes on a Plane, Action here has been real intense, Snakes on a Plane intense, This movie has so much action that your brain can't comprehend the action that's going on, and this movie has marked the first time that all Minor Charaters has been in close range. You'll be amazed as you see all the charaters fighting the dead incarnations and you'll be amazed on how Inuyasha and Sisheromu team up plus you'll get to see Inuyasha's Father. Now you can be amazed on how much has been covered and how much action there is. What I'm trying to say is that this movie is the best movie ever, It's even eligiable to win an Emmy, Golden Globe, Oscar, and many other Movie Awards, You should go out and buy it now.
***** / *****
SU182's Recomended Choice and Editor's Award.
When writing a review it is best to have proper grammer and the spelling should be accurate and also although you highly enjoyed the movie you should also mention the bad parts, because this movie is good, but it does have it's faults. Just my advice on that...
Anyways,
I watched this movie quite some time ago, and I will say that out of the 3 Inuyasha Movies it is the best. I like this movie mainly because I like Seshomaru's character as a whole, as well as Rin. Seeing them in this movie already makes it a winner in my mind, as they are hardly ever in the series. I do agree, that the "Sit" command is abused in this movie, and that the beads should have come off. One thing I dislike are the Zombies, honestly, seeing them fight things that are so weak is rather boring and they should have concentrated on tougher villains, but oh well nothing is perfect. Yeah...this is all Ill say for now :)
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