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mrdude
01-17-2002, 03:37 PM
Hey, I have watched Adult Swim since day 1, but I am new to this board. Glad to see I'm not the only one glued to my set on Sunday/Thursday nights.

Anyway, I am over the age requirement for AS (not that it stopped me with anything in the past), but I just think it is strange that most of the AS shows are rated TV14, the original Disclaimer said "not for kids under 17", and the current one says "not for kids under 18". I just think it is strange that they can't pick an age. BTW- I am glad they dont put the rating on the screen all the time like they used to, that was annoying.

ohmrbill
01-17-2002, 03:51 PM
What's even stranger is that they show the "not for anyone under 18" disclaimer and then show a program with a TV-PG rating. :confused: Just trying to frighten away the kiddies, I guess. Or at least trying to frighten the soccer moms into keeping the kids away.

Kesh
01-17-2002, 04:50 PM
I'd go with the latter, bill. Most likely they want to eventually bring in shows with higher age ratings, so by making the disclaimer this high, they can't get in trouble later by 'surprising' all those oh-so-proper parents who can't keep their kids from watching TV at midnight. :mad:

Evil Dr. Reef
01-17-2002, 05:38 PM
Like I've said before, the disclaimer is just there so CN doesn't get harassed by uptight parents trying to protect their precious children from the evils of swear words.

spectre316
01-17-2002, 06:55 PM
Originally posted by ohmrbill
Just trying to frighten away the kiddies, I guess. Or at least trying to frighten the soccer moms into keeping the kids away.

Awesome... the term "soccer mom" is perfect. I use it all the time.

Perhaps that warning disclaimer also adds to the ratings? Kids who see this disclaimer will be interested.

Calhoun07
01-17-2002, 09:30 PM
Originally posted by Evil Dr. Reef
Like I've said before, the disclaimer is just there so CN doesn't get harassed by uptight parents trying to protect their precious children from the evils of swear words.

And dry humping. Don't forget the evils of dry humping. :p

I do think that the disclaimer brings more attention to the block and will make people who would other wise turn the channel stick around and see what's on Cartoon Network, a station that has traditionally aired shows for kids.

ohmrbill
01-18-2002, 12:18 AM
If those disclaimers appear on the "Adult" Swim action block...

Artemis
01-18-2002, 04:29 PM
It'd be funny to see the disclaimer right before Outlaw Star, and see that it has a TV-Y7 rating :p

Zorakfan
01-18-2002, 04:40 PM
Warning: the following program you are about to see has intense scenes of games of 'Go Fish', children afraid of their own hand, digital bathingsuits (and gloves), and explicit use of the word 'Darn!'

Evil Dr. Reef
01-18-2002, 04:44 PM
"Sorry Jimmy, but you can't watch this. It's rated TV-14 for violence and language. NOW GET YOUR ASS TO BED BEFORE I DRAG YOU UP THERE BY YOUR FRIGGIN' EARS!!!!!"

Does anyone else wonder how many times this has actually been said in real life? It's kinda scary...

randomguy
01-21-2002, 07:00 PM
What irratates me about this whole thing, and the general accusations leveled at TV, Videogames, etc., is the laziness of parents. I mean, people get so offended when there's some violence or language on an animated show on television, as if they expect CN to babysit their kids for them. Parents have a responsibility to pay attention to what their kids watch- it shouldn't be CN's responisibility at all to warn them. For example, I was reading a review of Princess Mononoke, a fairly violent anime film (with blood!), on amazon.com, where this parent complained about having violence in a cartoon. I saw more parents who had the same problem in the theatre. He called it inexcusable. I was thinking that maybe these parents should have taken time to note the PG-13 label. Hello! Stuff like that ticks me off.

Kesh
01-21-2002, 07:28 PM
You've got it. Americans have this idea that cartoons are for children. Hell, The Simpsons isn't something I'd let young children watch, but most parents do because 'it's a cartoon'. My mom related a story a friend told her... apparently, she had been watching TV with one of her children late at night, and found a show on. "Oh, look, here's a cartoon we can watch," she said. A moment later, they started cussing... she had found South Park.

And rather than people being educated, learning that there can be cartoons for adults that are meanigful and interesting, they cry out, 'cartoons must be for children, everything else is evil!' Because it's easier for them that way. If all cartoons are made for kids, they don't have to wonder about the content... it's automatically 'safe'.

Well, screw them, I say. Take some responsibility, and learn about the shows your kids want to watch. And most of all, quit watching those damn soap operas while making lunch for your kid (which are full of nudity, sex, violence and strong language) and then complain about Dragonball Z because it has people beating each other up, or Princess Mononoke because it has blood (and an actual moral story, which those soap operas tend to lack).

randomguy
01-21-2002, 09:55 PM
I second that emotion. I've always been frustrated by the general treatment of the animation medium. People need to realize that animation is just that, a medium. And what does a medium do? Tell stories. Pure and simple, you can tell any kind of story with animation just as with live action. If Schindlers List were animated, would it still not be Schindlers List? The way serious animation is instantly decried simply due to the fact that people see it as a violation of what a cartoon "should" be is just as absurd as if I were to get pissed off over, say, the creation of a Live- Action Gundam movie. That's humanity though. I guess expecting people to make sense is asking too much of them.