Official Batman: Dark Tomorrow Thread

[Bird Boy]

Ok, so here is the official thread for Batman: Dark Tomorrow. Until the game comes out, any other topics on this game will be melded into this one...anyway..

Due out in March of 2002, Batman: Dark Tomorrow is a GameCube exclusive. Made by KemCO (makers of the horrible Batman Beyond:Return of the Joker game for Nintendo 64, Playstation and GameBoy Color) this game will be "side-scroller". Here are links to previews of it:

IGN's Preview (http://cube.ign.com/previews/16563.html)

GameSpots Preview (http://gamespot.com/gamespot/filters/products/0,11114,516641,00.html)

Pre-Order at GameStop.com (http://www.gamestop.com/product.asp?product%5Fid=220029)

Set for a 3/15/02 Release (according to GameStop's pre-order page), very little has been released about this game.

As with the "Official: Batman: Vengeance" thread, this will be kept up-to-date till the games release!

-BB

[Sugar Daddy]

this game was supposed to already be out, but dc comics, who is writing the storyline, asked for some revisions. so the story will probably be good, but i dont know about the actual game

[Bird Boy]

Originally posted by lasportsbiggie
this game was supposed to already be out, but dc comics, who is writing the storyline, asked for some revisions. so the story will probably be good, but i dont know about the actual game

yeah, it was actually set for a Nov. 18th (same day as the Cube launch) date....didn't know the reason behind the delay though

-BB

[Sugar Daddy]

i hope the delay is worth the wait

[Eldermount]

I have a friend who is working on the game. His advice to me... "Don't waste your money."

Apparently, when DC licenses out the property, they are limited to saying "Yes, Batman would do that. No he wouldn't do that." Other than that, they can only suggest script changes, and KemCo hasn't implemented any of DC's suggestions.

[The Dark Knight]

If the game is being released in 2 months and the only available information is a movie clip from when the game was first announced, don't expect much. In fact, I wouldn't be at all surprised is it undergoes another delay and still turns out just as bad as their last attempt at a Batman game. Superhero videogames should only be attempted by those skilled enough to make it work, like Neversoft (Spider-Man).

[Bird Boy]

Originally posted by The Dark Knight
If the game is being released in 2 months and the only available information is a movie clip from when the game was first announced, don't expect much. In fact, I wouldn't be at all surprised is it undergoes another delay and still turns out just as bad as their last attempt at a Batman game. Superhero videogames should only be attempted by those skilled enough to make it work, like Neversoft (Spider-Man).

And that video wasn't even made by KemCo. It was just some video sombody else threw together. So, I expect this game to suck extremely bad...

-BB

[Batman 80]

I think Ubi soft should make all the Batman games. They did a heck of a job with Batman Vengance. Imagine if they make a JL or Superman game.

[SupergirlJenM]

If they do make a Superman game they should make Supergirl a playable character. :) I think Batgirl should have been selectable in the Batman game.

[The Mad Hatter]

Ubi Soft, certainly. If DC had any sense they would have canned Kemco after that ROTJ fiasco. Ah well, that's the curse of the licensed games... the appearance of the name alone ensures that they sell well, so far too many companies don't bother making the game any good.

[Sugar Daddy]

grrr.....i really want to think this will be good

[The Game]

I know this is supposed to be about Dark Tommorow...

...But I agree with SupergirlJenM- Batgirl toatally should have been selectable in Batman: Vengeance. I know it would have made the game have less stuff and cimetmatics, but at least it should have come after beating the game...

That's one thing I want to see int he sequel! Multiplayer with Batman, Batgirl, Robin, Nightwing, Joker, Harley, etc. choosable. Now THAT would be sweet...

[Sugar Daddy]

IGN has coverage on the no-longer GameCube exclusive game. I haven't read the whole thing yet, but here (http://cube.ign.com/articles/136/136563p1.html) is the link

[BLACKHEART]

Well there's another reason I don't need a Gamecube. I hope it's worth 50 bucks.

[Bird Boy]

yeesh. I dunno, those can't be In-Game screens. I doesn't look right. And the way the views are taken really don't look right....

BTW-this belongs in B/S/BB, which is where it's going.. :)

-BB

[Clayface]

Hmmmmm. Interesting.

Its definitely got a cool look to it, but still no word on how it plays, and that's gonna be the deal maker or breaker. It'll be interesting to see how this one turns out.

Another example of why you shouldn't buy a system just for an "exclusive" game - this thing is coming out on all three systems now!

[Green-Ghost]

WOW :eek:

This screenshots are looking greate :eek:

Thank you Sugar Daddy for this cool link :D

It is a year a go since I have read about the game,I have waiting for new pictures.
And now :D

The Poison Ivy artwork is looking :eek:

I LOVE Ivy :D and I am happy that she is in this game.

[Bird Boy]

I merged your thread (Sugar Daddy) with this one. I forgot I made an official one awhile back. :)

-BB

[BLACKHEART]

Yeah the screen shots on Sugar's link did look a little whack.

[Sugar Daddy]

I really hope this game is good.

[The Dark Knight]

New information here (http://gamespot.com/gamespot/stories/news/0,10870,2861523,00.html)!

Could this game actually be good? Don't get excited just yet, this is the same company that made Batman Beyond: Return of the Joker. Batman: Dark Tomorrow will be released for the GC, X-Box, and PS2 later this year.

[Anarky]

i love the concept of wandering about in Arkham

[The Penguin]

Soon this thread will wander the Official Batman: Dark Tomorrow Thread (http://forums.toonzone.net/showthread.php?s=&threadid=17126) ;)

[Clayface]

Originally posted by The Penguin
Soon this thread will wander the Official Batman: Dark Tomorrow Thread (http://forums.toonzone.net/showthread.php?s=&threadid=17126) ;)

Yep. like right now. ;)

[Green-Ghost]

I am so happy that it comes out for PS2 :D

I think the PS2 is the best platform for Batman fans,because it has the biggest choice of Batman games.
Here is a Gamelist from Batman Play Station(2)games:
Batman Forever(PSX)
Batman & Robin(PSX)
Batman:Gotham Racer(PSX)
Batman Beyond:Return of the Joker(PSX)
Batman:Vengeance(PS2)
Batman: Dark Tomorrow(PS2)


And all(except for Batman Forever and Batman Beyond)are with Poison Ivy :D :p
And I have them all(except for Batman Forever and Batman Beyond) ;)

[Bird Boy]

PS2 may have more Batman games, but only 1 or 2 are decent. That's the big difference. We could have a buttload of bat games, but all could suck so incredibly much, it wouldn't be right.

I'm still skepticle about Dark Tomorrow. I know I won't be going out to buy this game right away. I'm waiting for some in-depth reviews before I plunk down $50.

not that I don't love Batman and all, but when it comes to half of a C-note to buy a game now-a-days, I'm sure as heck gonna make sure it's good.

-BB

[Green-Ghost]

Originally posted by Bird Boy
PS2 may have more Batman games, but only 1 or 2 are decent. That's the big difference.
-BB

Yeah but the other platforms only have 1 or 2 Batman games.
I only want to say that,if a Batman fan would like to buy one of the Next-Generation platforms(X-Box,GameCube,Play Station 2) he do it right with the Play Station 2.

I will buy Batman: Dark Tomorrow ,when it arrived.
Because it is with Poison Ivy.
I collect everything with her :D

[Green-Ghost]

Here are new artworks from:
Wayne Manor (http://image.com.com/gamespot/images/2002/vgnews/041702/batman/batman_screen004.jpg)

Mr. Freeze (http://image.com.com/gamespot/images/2002/vgnews/041702/batman/batman_screen001.jpg)

The Ratcatcher (http://image.com.com/gamespot/images/2002/vgnews/041702/batman/batman_screen002.jpg)
and
The Ventriloquist and Scareface (http://image.com.com/gamespot/images/2002/vgnews/041702/batman/batman_screen003.jpg)

[Bird Boy]

Originally posted by Green-Ghost
Here are new artworks from:
Wayne Manor (http://image.com.com/gamespot/images/2002/vgnews/041702/batman/batman_screen004.jpg)

Mr. Freeze (http://image.com.com/gamespot/images/2002/vgnews/041702/batman/batman_screen001.jpg)

The Ratcatcher (http://image.com.com/gamespot/images/2002/vgnews/041702/batman/batman_screen002.jpg)
and
The Ventriloquist and Scareface (http://image.com.com/gamespot/images/2002/vgnews/041702/batman/batman_screen003.jpg)

Nice new pics..I like the Manor..it's now my wallpaper.. :D

BTW-I fixed the links. I had the wrong code (it had (EMAIL) instead of (URL))

-BB

[Green-Ghost]

Originally posted by Bird Boy


Nice new pics..I like the Manor..it's now my wallpaper.. :D

-BB

Yes it looks really cool:)
But the Freeze :( he has very short legs and big foots.

[Green-Ghost]

Here are new screenshots from Superhero Hype! (http://superherohype.com/cgi-bin/imageFolio.cgi?direct=Batman/) :
Batman vs Black Mask Gang (http://superherohype.com/gallery/Batman/E3/darktomorrow5.jpg)
Batman vs Mr Freeze (http://superherohype.com/gallery/Batman/E3/darktomorrow4.jpg)
Gotham Skyline (http://superherohype.com/gallery/Batman/E3/darktomorrow3.jpg)
Batman vs Ratcather (http://superherohype.com/gallery/Batman/E3/darktomorrow2.jpg)
Batman vs Killer Croc (http://superherohype.com/gallery/Batman/E3/darktomorrow1.jpg)

[Bird Boy]

Ahh..new screens and movies are abound since E3, and I must say, the game is sorta looking nice. Here are some nice In-Screen shots:

Batman and Mr. Freeze (http://cubemedia.ign.com/cube/image/battybigsmall6.jpg)
Batman and Killer Croc (http://cubemedia.ign.com/cube/image/battybigsmall14.jpg)

And there's also character models of:

Batman (http://cubemedia.ign.com/cube/image/battybigsmall15.jpg)
Robin (http://cubemedia.ign.com/cube/image/battybigsmall2.jpg)
Batgirl (Cain) (http://cubemedia.ign.com/cube/image/battybigsmall16.jpg)
Oracle (http://cubemedia.ign.com/cube/image/battybigsmall4.jpg)

Pretty cool, eh?

You can view the rest of the screens by clicking here (http://mediaviewer.ign.com/ignMediaPage.jsp?object_id=16563&channel_id=74&page_title=Batman%3A+Dark+Tomorrow&adtag=network%3Dign%26pagetype%3Darticle%26site%3Dcubeviewer&return_url=http%3A%2F%2Fcube.ign.com%2Fobjects%2F016%2F016563.html). But because IGN is stupid, you can only view 5 screens if you're not a Insider..

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[Batman347]

It looks great! I can't see how this game can be bad. The screen shots look great and with all the villians it's going to be great. If you're a true Batman fan you'll love this game. Mr. Freeze looks great!

[Eldermount]

Artwork is impressive. But from what I hear from people who have worked on the game, the storyline isn't compelling.

[BLACKHEART]

Batman and Batgirl look horrible. Almost like cheap fan 3d models. Just look at their ears. Oracle looks alright. Robin, Croc, Freeze, and Ivy look good. Not great, just good. Hey why isn't this in the new video game forum?

[Mr. Obsession]

The long ears don't bother me. I guess I've just gotten use to Justice League. :D

Overall the game looks decent, except for Mr. Freeze. Maybe it's just that I've always preferred the animated look for him (even TNBA version), but the screen shots I've seen remind me way too much of Arnold (face), and he's too bulky.

[Bird Boy]

Originally posted by SLIPKNOT
Hey why isn't this in the new video game forum?

this thread was created before the video game forum, and since it relates to Batman, it can be here too (it's confusing I know)..

-BB

[Sugar Daddy]

I really really hope this game is good.

[Green-Ghost]

Mr Zsasz (http://cubemedia.ign.com/cube/image/battybigsmall1.jpg)
Ivy´s Lair (http://ps2media.ign.com/ps2/image/batman_darktomorrow_0612_11.jpg)
In Arkham (http://ps2media.ign.com/ps2/image/batman_darktomorrow_0612_07.jpg)
Harvey Bullock (http://ps2media.ign.com/ps2/image/batman_darktomorrow_0612_05.jpg)
Black Mask (http://ps2media.ign.com/ps2/image/batman_darktomorrow_0612_04.jpg)
Croc (http://ps2media.ign.com/ps2/image/batman_darktomorrow_0612_12.jpg)

The game is looking so great :D .
Can´t wait :D
I want a Poison Ivy headshot :D

[TimTwoFace]

Well, the game looks alright - it's nice to see some of the lesser, "unused" villains finally popping up in this game, like Croc (finally!), Zsasz, Ratcatcher, Ventriloquiost/Scarface (finally), and Black Mask.

I'm a LITTLE miffed that, even though there are so many characters in this game (unlike only about ten in BATMAN: VENGEANCE), there are only three "major" villains that have appeared so far: Joker, Ivy, and Freeze.

I still don't see why the game looks awful - but then again, I think I'm one of the few that really thought that the BATMAN & ROBIN game (based on the movie, for PSX) was actually quite good - or, at the very least, a step in the right direction.

-Tim

[Green-Ghost]

Originally posted by TimTwoFace
the BATMAN & ROBIN game (based on the movie, for PSX) was actually quite good - or, at the very least, a step in the right direction.


I like the Batman & Robin game,too.
The in-game Poison Ivy is looking great.

I hope there will be more charakters in B:DT like Nightwing,Two-Face,Scarecrow and the new Catwoman.

[Green-Ghost]

Some new screens here (http://gamespot.com/gamespot/filters/products/screenindex/0,11104,516641,00.html) :)

[ClockStomper]

I'm not impressed. The graphics are pretty inferior for a PS2-GC-XB release. They look PS1 quality. I guess I could ignore that if the storyline is good enough...still DC should have gotten Neversoft or Ubisoft to do the game.

[Eldermount]

That's all pre-production images you're judging the quality from. Test images. I just got to see the game movie that they were showing at E3, and the images are much cleaner than that.

The guy who voiced Batman sounded almost but not quite like Kevin Conroy. The guy who voiced the Joker didn't sound anything like Mark Hamill. I didn't think to pay attention to Oracle's voice.

[Clayface]

You know, I was really excited about this game until I read the latest batch of gaming magazines and found out who the writer is: none other than the infamous Scott Peterson of Batman: Gotham Advetnures. Peterson has written a lot of bad stories, with some terrible characterization in the comics over recent years, slowly causing the fanbase to dwindle. And now he's the main writer on one of the coolest looking Batman games we've been given on any system. Am I the only one that's bummed by this?

[Green-Ghost]

At this time the story sound very cool!
So give him a chance Clayface ;)

[Clayface]

Originally posted by Green-Ghost
At this time the story sound very cool!
So give him a chance Clayface ;)


I have. Again. And again. And again. And again. I keep buying the Gotham Adventures book in the hopes that the next issue won't be as bad the previous one, and so far, its just not happening. And a video game is a lot more expensive than a comic book, so I'm a hesitant to part with my money in this case. At the very least, I'll give it rent, but unless the post-release reviews are really good, I'm going to be a lot more reluctant to purchase thing when its released.

[TheGothsandman]

I do want this game to be good, but after buying Superman 64 on opening release, well.....DC has scarred me purchasing their franchised video games...

[The Penguin]

Well I really enjoyed Batman: Vengeance and would love to see another animated game.
So does this mean it's Peterson's fault that while we have a lot of comic villains so many of the "bigger" ones are missing? (Penguin, hello? :mad: )

[TimTwoFace]

Originally posted by The Penguin
Well I really enjoyed Batman: Vengeance and would love to see another animated game.
So does this mean it's Peterson's fault that while we have a lot of comic villains so many of the "bigger" ones are missing? (Penguin, hello? :mad: )

Yeah, that's the one thing that's made me mad with this game. The only "big" villains are Joker, Ivy, and Freeze...and I guess you could count the Ventriloquist and Croc. Now, I'm happy that Ratcatcher, Black Mask, Zsasz, Amygdala, and a bunch of others are appearing - cuz they're cool, too - but I'd much rather see a handful of ANY of the following:

Penguin
Catwoman
Riddler
Two-Face
Scarecrow
Bane
Harley Quinn
Clayface
Firefly

*SIGH* Oh well, I hope it's still good.

-Tim

[JusticeLeagueLegion]

Who does the voices for all of the characters in the game?

[Green-Ghost]

Originally posted by TimTwoFace


Yeah, that's the one thing that's made me mad with this game. The only "big" villains are Joker, Ivy, and Freeze...and I guess you could count the Ventriloquist and Croc. Now, I'm happy that Ratcatcher, Black Mask, Zsasz, Amygdala, and a bunch of others are appearing - cuz they're cool, too - but I'd much rather see a handful of ANY of the following:


Amygdala?
Where did you read it?
Are there new screens or previews I don´t know about?

[SpotLane]

Originally posted by Eldermount
That's all pre-production images you're judging the quality from. Test images. I just got to see the game movie that they were showing at E3, and the images are much cleaner than that.

The guy who voiced Batman sounded almost but not quite like Kevin Conroy. The guy who voiced the Joker didn't sound anything like Mark Hamill. I didn't think to pay attention to Oracle's voice.

No Kevin Conroy or Mark Hamill?! Now I'm really disappointed.

[Green-Ghost]

New amazing screens (http://www.worthplaying.com/article.php?sid=5309)

Here (http://www.worthplaying.com/press/61/screenshot_213_31.jpg) is a screen with Ivy

[Eldermount]

The trailer shown at E3 can be seen here:
http://www.dragonlight.com/movies/batmane3.avi

It's a 33 MB AVI file, so be prepared for wait. ;)

[The Penguin]

Originally posted by Eldermount
The trailer shown at E3
It's a 33 MB AVI file, so be prepared for wait. ;)
:eek: Ohmygod! That was one of the coolest things I have ever seen. I was sure this game had "rental" all over because of the company's past, but that was just friggin' awesome!!

Thank you Eldermount.

[Eldermount]

Well Penguin, my friend worked on the animation for the game. But from what I hear... rental. Definitely rental.

[The Penguin]

Originally posted by Eldermount
Well Penguin, my friend worked on the animation for the game. But from what I hear... rental. Definitely rental. Hmmm well it still looks cool, but if someone who knows someone is saying it I'd better rent it first.

The video is still cool as heck though. :)



EDIT:
I found the box art on the Kemco site:
http://www.top-gear.com/images/boxart/batman.jpg

[Eldermount]

:D I'll let him know you liked it.

And it's someones. I know a few people who have worked on it who... well... :(

[Regus]

I want to play this game, but I'll probably do it via rental. Given Kemco's past, I don't feel like taking a gamble and buying at at full retail.

The last Kemco game I liked was on the NES.
:/

[Bird Boy]

I still can't decide--basically, I won't buy it at all till I read reviews of it. I just can't decide if I wanna plunk down money for this. (I'm still hurting from paying $50 for Vengeance and it dropped to $20 a couple months later).

Though that trailer WAS cool..not sure about Batman's voice though (guess I'm used to Conroy's)..

-BB

[Green-Ghost]

Why isn't this threat in the Batman/Superman Forum anymore?
No Batman fan who is interesting in the game goes into the video game forum.
So please can you put it back?!

[The Penguin]

This game deals with the comics and BS&B now officially deals with animation only (http://forums.toonzone.net/showthread.php?s=&threadid=52915). So this is the right place for this thread now.

[Green-Ghost]

Can't you make an exception :( :)
Here you see that Batman fans are not looking in this forum.
So DR.MID-NITE asked in a threat:
Has anyone talked about this Batman game(called "Dark Tomorrow") coming out in Feb.2003. It is not by UBI-Soft. But, the screen shots look great.
Can't you push shut an eye? :(
Please!

[The Penguin]

Originally posted by Green-Ghost
Can't you make an exception :( :)
Here you see that Batman fans are not looking in this forum.
Can't you push shut an eye? :(
Please!
This thread has existed since January, so I find it hard to believe he has never seen it.
Birds of Prey and Smallville appeal to Bat-fans, and as part of the move those threads are now on The Entertainment Board. Some may not like it, but that is just the way it goes. The non-animated talk was overwelming the animated stuff, which is what the board is supposed to be for.

Jim said in that thread I linked to:
Originally posted by Jim Harvey
This board will now be for animated discussion only!
Batman: Dark Tomorrow is not animated and this is the right home for this thread, please just accept it and let's move on.

[mortsllak]

* tenchu-style setup, outfit batman with weapons at the start of a mission.

* big emphasis on striking from on high, with the grappling hook and rooftops.

* nightwing.

* the ability to take on a room of about 5 enemies and take them down. easily.

* lose the oval on the chest, year-one style.

* quality voice-acting

* nightwing

[Robin2099]

Well, IGN has posted the opening FMA cinema for Batman: Dark Tomorrow and I recomend you go check them out. There is however a big sopiler because The begining of the FMA contains Ras Al Ghoul plotting with Talia about destroying the world. I really hope that this game doesn't stink.

[Green-Ghost]

I have see it too.
Can you please tell me what happens in the trailers.

[The Penguin]

Once again this game looks cool as heck, but I just wonder how it is going to play. I'd like to piece those things together and watch it all as one.

This game looks more and more interesting all the time. I still feel compelled to rent it first. http://www.stopstart.freeserve.co.uk/smilie/sick.gif

[Stu]

Who are the voice actors for this?
I have looked on www.imdb.com and the official site and broswedthose fourms and the only thing I have figured out is that theres no Batman TAS talent in it.

Who does the voices in this game!???

[Robin2099]

Can you please tell me what happens in the trailers

Clip 1: first clip shows a robbery, and there's three thgs running away. Batman hears the alarm and flies away. After the thugs climb over the fence, they see the shadow of Batmans head, before he puts his cap in the bat formation and the clip ends.
Clip 2: Shows Batman flying away after taking out the thugs, and talking to Oracle.
Clip 3: Begins with Ras Al Ghoul, and Talia talking about there plan to bring the earth back to its former self.
Clip 4: Has the spoiler up above ending there conversation while Wayne Manor is shown and Bruce Wayne is looking out the window.
Clip 5: Bruce has a flashback oh his parents being murdered right in front of his eyes. Before going to the clock in the Batcave and putting on his cowl.
Clip 6: Shows Batman all dressed up, and getting into the Batmobile. After several winding and twisting streets, he goes through an illusion which is the exit of the Batcave. He then drives ot Gotham and sees the Batsignal.

[Green-Ghost]

Thanks Robin2099 :harley:

[randomguy]

It doesn't look too promising. The ingame graphics are pretty mediocre, and I hear it uses the RE control scheme... which is a terrible, terrible idea for a Batman game.

[Bird Boy]

Originally posted by randomguy
It doesn't look too promising. The ingame graphics are pretty mediocre, and I hear it uses the RE control scheme... which is a terrible, terrible idea for a Batman game.

WHAT!? I don't have anything against RE's control scheme--in fact I rather like it. But it does NOT have a place in a Batman game.. ugh

-BB

[Robin2099]

Yeah the RE control scheme doesn't really work for a Batman game. But looking at the videos, the player doesn't seem to have problems with it. And Kemco is taking there time making it since it's already been postponed twice.

[The Penguin]

Well I just check GameSpot (http://www.gamespot.com) and the list B:DT as coming out on March 4. The game looks really cool so I'd at least like to be able to rent it.

[James]

Looks good. I'll miss the TNBA style and the BYO costume - the Bat logo is waaay to big - how can you slink around with so much yellow on your chest? His expression looks cool too. I'm hopeful! Let's hope the camera angles are just a little more stable!

[Phlibbit]

The official site for Dark Tomorrow is up at http://batman.kemcogames.com/ . According to their info list, the game has been cancelled for the PS2. Says it right on their info page. Oh well; this is why I got a Gamecube.

[randomguy]

Not looking too good, unfortunately. Check out (I think) the 1/28 edition of IGNCube's N-Query... they pretty much mercilessly rail on this title. The prognosis is not well. Batman fans, I wouldn't get your hopes up.

[Green-Ghost]

I don't think that they chanceled the PS2 game.
At Amazon.com the release date is November 2003.
But why should they put it so far away?

[The Penguin]

It's on the game info page (http://batman.kemcogames.com/gameinfo.html)...


PLATFORMS
Batman: Dark Tomorrow is available on the following home console gaming systems:
Microsoft Xbox & Nintendo GameCube. There is also a flash animation of the package and it switches between GC and X-BOX, no PS2.

This game was supposed to be a Cube exclusive with the launch, but it has been delayed again and again and it even went mult-platform.

It sure looks cool, but I just get more concerned about this game all the time. I'm gonna have to rent it first.

[Stu]

Well theres a preview for the PS2 and I've seen the cover for the PS2. They'd better release it on PS2. The one time PS2 exclusive Batman Vengeance game was released on all the others. Lets return the favour cause I aren't buying a GC or "Halo Adapter".

[The Penguin]

Originally posted by The Red Bird
Well theres a preview for the PS2 and I've seen the cover for the PS2. They'd better release it on PS2. Well I've seen them too so it was at least planned at some point. I can only assume that has changed for reasons that no doubt make little sense. They might be doing you a favor though.


Originally posted by The Red Bird
The one time PS2 exclusive Batman Vengeance game was released on all the others. Whew. I never heard that, but I sure am relieved it was.

[Bird Boy]

I believe it's still coming to PS2..but not for a LONG time, as evidence on Amazon's page for it:

Batman: Dark Tomorrow (http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/B00006ZCCK)-This item will be released on November 18, 2003. You may order it now and we will ship it to you when it arrives.

It still has a ship date of March 21st on XBOX and Cube...maybe they're plunking it on those two before PS2 just to see how it does?

Still, it's odd..PS2's the #1 console...I don't understand why it's getting delayed...

-BB

[The Penguin]

Originally posted by Bird Boy
I believe it's still coming to PS2..but not for a LONG time, as evidence on Amazon's page for it:

Batman: Dark Tomorrow (http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/B00006ZCCK)-This item will be released on November 18, 2003. You may order it now and we will ship it to you when it arrives.

It still has a ship date of March 21st on XBOX and Cube...maybe they're plunking it on those two before PS2 just to see how it does?

Still, it's odd..PS2's the #1 console...I don't understand why it's getting delayed...

-BB That or maybe it's delayed again, but only the PS2 date has been fixed. :rolleyes: I'd like to just go out and buy this game, but the more that happens the more I'd rather throw down 5 to rent rather than 50 to buy.

[Bird Boy]

Originally posted by The Penguin
That or maybe it's delayed again, but only the PS2 date has been fixed. :rolleyes: I'd like to just go out and buy this game, but the more that happens the more I'd rather throw down 5 to rent rather than 50 to buy.

Could be, but GameStop took down the PS2 version completely, which means it's either cancelled, or they just arent' accepting pre-orders for the PS2 one till a later date...

Either way, I'm getting the Cube version if it's any good..

-BB

[Stu]

Thats taking the piss. If it being developed simuatainiously (SP?) then it should be on all 3 consoles. If anything PS2 should be getting it as that has the largest % of the market. More people own PS2s that GC or X-boxs. If it is delayed till fall its another stupid decison as it would no doubt gets its ass KICKED by Vengeance 2.

I wonder if there is any truth to these rumours as Kemco has launched its official Batman Dark Tomorrow site.

[The Penguin]

Man I just got done watching the videos on the Kemco site and I still can't get over how awesome it looks.

I watch the cut-scene and I go "I want, I want" but something that has been delayed time and time again by a company with a poor super hero track record still kinda scares me.

Has anyone else watch those videos? (find them here (http://batman.kemcogames.com/batcave.html))They do take a bit to load though so make a couple posts and it should be done. :p

[Green-Ghost]

I only watched the Poison Ivy movie and it is amazing!
Poison Ivy looks really cool also the plants are very detailed and they are just looking great :D

[Stu]

I saw some screens and have been browsing thru IGN and have noticed a few things about what the characters do in the game. I don't have links but if you go to the X-box section at www.ign.com and find Dark tomorrow you get character profiles. IGN hasn't said anything about it not bing on PS2.


I believe it's still coming to PS2..but not for a LONG time, as evidence on Amazon's page for it:

Batman: Dark Tomorrow-This item will be released on November 18, 2003. You may order it now and we will ship it to you when it arrives

I find it very strange that the "new" release date is 2 years, to the day that it was supposed to be released. Think some dumb ass made a typo on the site you where on Bird Boy?

[Stu]

Do we know if this is getting a PS2 release yet? I've been looking on IGN and it doesn't say anything. Kemco official site says that it will both not be released and will be released. I'm really confused.

[Phlibbit]

All right, lemme try to explain this. The front page of the Dark Tomorrow website has logos for all three platforms, because the game will eventually come out for all of them. Since this primarily a site for the game's launch, only XBox and Gamecube are listed for systems to have the game at launch, which is true. The game was originally written and designed for Gamecube, and since Gamecube games are easy to port to the XBox, they're coming out at the same time. Kemco says they're working on the PS2 Version, but it won't be out for a while and it will NOT be as late as October. They were having difficulties porting the game for the PS2. They have to take out enemies, and change backgrounds so the game will have a stable framerate. They also said that at the moment, the game will look graphically inferior to the XBox and Gamecube versions. On top of that, as far as load times are concerned, Gamecube leads with 3 to 6 seconds, XBox with 5 to 9 seconds, and PS2 with 10 to 17 seconds. The game will be out March 18 for XBox and Gamecube. Oh, and Kemco also says that there are many secrets in the game such as extra costumes, weapons, characters, and more, and after you get all the secrets,
you get a really big surprise. If Batman Dark Tomorrow is successful, then Kemco will make a sequel and is already considering to make possible games focusing on Batgirl, Robin, Nightwing, the Birds of Prey, or Catwoman, with Batgirl being the most likely. And on top of that heap of info, there will be a Q and A chat session on Thursday night at 8 PM London GMT (anyone know what that is eastern time?) where your questions about the game will be answered.

*gasp*

[Stu]

Thanks Phlibbit. I looked on www.amazon.co.uk (which is usually right about these things) and they said the PS2 version would be released on 4th April 2003.

I also read on Kemcos forums (which have now been locked for an unknown reason) that DC Comics only let them use the Blue And Grey costume (probably due it being Batmans most recognised comic costume). Still more costumes would kick ass (NOTE TO KEMCO: We want actual Batman costumes - not a bright orange deep sea diver type of thing).

Also while over at Kemcos Batman site they said the game will feature 2 mystery villians! Hopefully Two-Face and Penguin.

Please note if you do know the villian put it in a spoiler bracket. No one likes having stories ruined.

[Green-Ghost]

The villains are Ra's Al Guhl and Talia

[The Penguin]

Originally posted by The Red Bird
Also while over at Kemcos Batman site they said the game will feature 2 mystery villians! Hopefully Two-Face and Penguin.

Please note if you do know the villian put it in a spoiler bracket. No one likes having stories ruined. Haven't you watched the fantastic intro movie in the videos section? It's pretty obvious who the "mystery" villains are from there.

[Stu]

Originally posted by The Penguin
Haven't you watched the fantastic intro movie in the videos section? It's pretty obvious who the "mystery" villains are from there.

No. I hate spoilers - I like unvailing (sp?) the mystery. The only things I have seen is a couple of screens and that bad ass preview that was first shown a good 18 months ago. I also read some of the character profiles for the game on IGN - X-box and they said that Nightwing is only mentioned in the game, he's not in any FMV's or as a playable charcter.

[James]

Originally posted by The Red Bird
Nightwing is only mentioned in the game, he's not in any FMV's or as a playable charcter.


That's a great pity. I was hoping that wouldn't be the case. Oh well. *mystery* hehe, Interesting choice of villains...

Still looking forward to the game!

[Robin2099]

Well I was at my local Books and Company today, and low and behold I saw the BDT strategy guide. And after reading and flipping through the entire thing, I've learned several things about the game.
-The game seems to ahve a lot of basis in stealth, as the guide mentioned several times in which stealth is the best option.
-There's hidden sound tracks, cinemas and character art that you can unlock. Also, there is several cinemas in the game.
-You can hot spot an inventory item like you can in Splinter Cell. Meaning you pick an item like the batarang out, and it will be the main weapon till you decide to switch it.
-The levels really capture the Batman character's well. Killer Croc's level features you fighting Croc in a room that's full of water
-You don't only stay in Gotham, even though you don't get to fly the Batplane or drive the Batmobile.
-And perhaps best of all the final fight with Ras Al Gouhl is a sword fight! You also get to fight Ubo as well.
All in all, the guide got me really excited for this game. But I'm also worried since Kemco hasn't really released much information about the game. Here's hoping for the best.

[Stu]

Originally posted by Robin2099
Well I was at my local Books and Company today, and low and behold I saw the BDT strategy guide. And after reading and flipping through the entire thing, I've learned several things about the game.
-The game seems to ahve a lot of basis in stealth, as the guide mentioned several times in which stealth is the best option.
-There's hidden sound tracks, cinemas and character art that you can unlock. Also, there is several cinemas in the game.
-You can hot spot an inventory item like you can in Splinter Cell. Meaning you pick an item like the batarang out, and it will be the main weapon till you decide to switch it.
-The levels really capture the Batman character's well. Killer Croc's level features you fighting Croc in a room that's full of water
-You don't only stay in Gotham, even though you don't get to fly the Batplane or drive the Batmobile.
-And perhaps best of all the final fight with Ras Al Gouhl is a sword fight! You also get to fight Ubo as well.
All in all, the guide got me really excited for this game. But I'm also worried since Kemco hasn't really released much information about the game. Here's hoping for the best.

Thank god there isn't a Batmobile level. The difficulty of it on previous Batman games has made me hate its presence in any game. If this game has a level called "Gasworks" its getting chucked out of the window. :p

[James]

Originally posted by The Red Bird
Thank god there isn't a Batmobile level. The difficulty of it on previous Batman games has made me hate its presence in any game. If this game has a level called "Gasworks" its getting chucked out of the window. :p


Lol. You probably too much of a whippersnapper to remember the OLD Batman movie game. On the Spectrum, the Batmobile was one of the hardest elements and very much what the level in Vengence was based on. The Amiga version of the same game was easier.
That two had a hard Batwing/plane level and also a level in Axis chemicals which was also a gasworks with hissing pipes...

History repeats itself and I agree with your sentiments! :)

[Phlibbit]

I got the official player's guide in the mail today! If anyone has any questions about the game that they want answered, I'll look it up in here! Ask away!

[Phlibbit]

I made a BAtman: Dark Tomorrow chat room if anyone's intrested; it's in the user rooms section of the games section on Yahoo chat. Feel free to ask questions you want answered about the game as well...

[Stu]

Are there alternate costumes?

[Phlibbit]

The guide only mentions hidden sketchbooks and music CDs. However it looks like the guide was finished and then put on hold until the game was released, which is why it may not have that stuff in it, because it also says the guide is for PS2 which isn't out yet. And on top of that, in the Question and answer interview thing, the Kemco guy said there would in fact be extra weapons and costumes, as well as a huge secret for players who get all the other secrets. I still find it funny how mysterious this game is; from everything from release dates, the PS2 version not coming out until Q3/Q4, and this player's guide. Oh well, it actually looks like it'll turn out to be a great game from what I can tell from the player's guide...

[Robin2099]

I don't know. Sega made a very good Batman Returns game for the Sega CD, and the game was just driving levels. That is still one of the best Batman games ever.

[Phlibbit]

This just in:

There is a secret level and 4 hidden costumes in Batman: Dark Tomorrow. However, this is ONLY in either the XBox OR Gamecube versions, not both, and we don't know which one holds them. You're supposed to be able to tell from the back of the boxes and instruction manuals though...

[Green-Ghost]

Hey Phlibbit.
Can you please tell me if Catwoman is in?
They mentioned her in a new preview.

[Phlibbit]

No, Catwoman isn't a villian in this game. However, Kemco is developing a game to be based on the new Catwoman movie.

[Stu]

There is a secret level and 4 hidden costumes in Batman: Dark Tomorrow. However, this is ONLY in either the XBox OR Gamecube versions, not both, and we don't know which one holds them. You're supposed to be able to tell from the back of the boxes and instruction manuals though...

Hopefully it'll be the 'cube version as the PS2 one is a straight port of that. They really had better have a different character model, as much as I like the blue and grey Batsuit, the model hasn't impressed me all that much.

[Patrick Bateman]

Alternate costumes would be great, because I hate the yellow oval on his chest. He hasn't even worn that in years anyway. The blue's cool with me, though.

[Robin2099]

Well, bad news for people who are excited about this game. Famitsu, Japan's most respected magazine reviewed the game and gave it a 6,5,5 and 4. Which means the game got a 20/40. I get the feeling this will be a rental and a buy it when it's cheap game for me.

[Mcdougal]

here's a review for the game by a person who managed to get his hands on it

http://s3.cgi.gamefaqs.com/boards/genmessage.asp?board=32477&topic=7087557

It basicly says that its a stealth game, and that its a wee bit on the short side, but if youre a batman fan, its a game for you.

Check it out , its a great review, very professional

[randomguy]

Shipped today. I'm looking forward to seeing some reviews. Hopefully someone on the boards will pick it up.

And I couldn't care less about Famitsu. I seem to remember a scathing review of Tony Hawk... which is just stupid.

[Phlibbit]

Well I got my copy of Dark Tomorrow today. And no, it's not the worst game in the world. After you get past the awful camera (you get used to it) and forgive them for bland fighting, this is actually a good game at heart. My favorite level is the first one though. After playing for an hour and a half, I think I'm about halfway through the game, so it's pretty short. The cape physics are the best of any game I've ever seen, too. The cinematics are really good as well. If anyone wants to ask questions, feel free to do so.

[Stu]

What are the voices like?

[Phlibbit]

They're actually very well done. They aren't the animated ones, but they sound fine.

[Mazinger Z]

I think Batman's voice in the game is done by Kevin Conroy, if not then the actor did a great job of imitating his voice.

[randomguy]

I think Batman's voice in the game is done by Kevin Conroy, if not then the actor did a great job of imitating his voice.

I think it's Conroy too. I heard it on Extended Play's preview and it sounded a lot like ol' Kevin. If it isn't, it's one of the best impressions I've ever heard.

Anyways, I've got a question. How does the batgrapple work? Is it just for swinging or can you use it to get to high ledges and stuff like Tenchu's grappling hook? Additionally, how intuitive are the gadgets? Moreso thatn Batman Vengance, I hope.

Finally, how is the control? Not real specifically or anything, but does the game handle all right? Is it easy enough to get a bead on how to do everything you need to?

[Robin2099]

I think it's Conroy too. I heard it on Extended Play's preview and it sounded a lot like ol' Kevin. If it isn't, it's one of the best impressions I've ever heard.

Anyways, I've got a question. How does the batgrapple work? Is it just for swinging or can you use it to get to high ledges and stuff like Tenchu's grappling hook? Additionally, how intuitive are the gadgets? Moreso thatn Batman Vengance, I hope.

Finally, how is the control? Not real specifically or anything, but does the game handle all right? Is it easy enough to get a bead on how to do everything you need to?
Nope. it's not Conroy, as none of the actors from the cartoon returned. The voices are very good however. Well, the batgrapple is just used to travel up, you use the batrope to swing across things.
The control is just like RE. The camera and the movement work in the exact same was as RE and that is a very bad thing. During the rooftop swinging scene, even though it was cool, I died five times trying to go from rooftop to rooftop. You swing, get stuck in midair, and can't see where you're trying to jump too. This is seriously stupid especially after Spiderman and even ZOE and Devil May Cry maked constant moving and fighting work.
Overall, this game does capture what it's like to be Batman, as I did feel like the Dark Knight while playing. But it's only mediocre, and isn't the great Batman game we were hoping for. Make sure you rent first to see if you want to pay full price for it. I suggest waiting for the price to drop like me.

[Adam Tyner]

Yikes. IGN rated the game a 2.2/10.


This game is a crime against comic book licenses. Flawed from top to bottom, from beginning to end, the only true redeeming quality of Batman: Dark Tomorrow is that any poor sap who bought this game can probably still get $25 trade-in at their local game store. Not worth a buy, not worth a rental, not even worth the free mini-comic inside. This is a great example of "what not to do."

Games Domain (http://www.gamesdomain.com/xbox/reviews/Batman_Dark_Tomorrow.html) rated the game 1.5/5 and Planet42 (http://www.planet42.com/games/reviews/batmandarktomorrow.shtml) ranked it 1/5.

The current composite rating at Game Rankings (http://www.gamerankings.com/htmlpages2/22514.asp) for the XBox version is an embarrassing 26%.

[randomguy]

OUCH. I mean... OUCH. Bad scores all around.

And to think, this sucker's coming out about a year and a half late. You would think it wouldn't take that long to put out such a supposedly crappy game.

[blee337]

IGN gave it a 3.5. The review is locked, but you can see the score with this link. Well at least Ubi Soft is making Batman Vengeance 2.

http://cube.ign.com/reviews.html

[Bird Boy]

IGN gave it a 3.5. The review is locked, but you can see the score with this link. Well at least Ubi Soft is making Batman Vengeance 2.

http://cube.ign.com/reviews.html

Yeah..I'm an Insider--the review's not pretty. In the gameplay area they described it as "Horrid. Batman controls like a drunken semi truck at times, and the switching camera system is completely counterintuitive. You'll go batty playing this game in no time." Their thoughts on lasting appeal was "If you can figure out how to force Batman through some of these levels, then you'll find that the game plays longer than you'd like. There are few extras worth finding, so don't bother."

*sigh* My initial thoughts on the game was right...and that sucks. :(

-BB

[Adam Tyner]

IGN gave the GC version a 3.5, but the XBox version (written by a different author, I'd guess? Too lazy to check) was even lower...2.2.

[Robin2099]

Well, Kemco makes another awful Batman game, which is ridiculous after games like Spiderman and even Batman Vengance and Superman SOA. Moral of the story si never trust anything made by Kemco.

[James]

Yeah..I'm an Insider--the review's not pretty. In the gameplay area they described it as "Horrid. Batman controls like a drunken semi truck at times, and the switching camera system is completely counterintuitive.
-BB

Didn't I say that was the thing they had to make sure that didn't happen again?! Didn't I? I said make sure they give Bats better controls than he was given in Batman Vengence!

Does anyone important listen to me? :)

[Bird Boy]

Didn't I say that was the thing they had to make sure that didn't happen again?! Didn't I? I said make sure they give Bats better controls than he was given in Batman Vengence!

Does anyone important listen to me? :)

I dunno..the controls in Vengeance were pretty good, although it could get too jumpy at times. But still...it sounds way better than the tripe that is "Dark Tomorrow". Ah well...two different gaming companies, two different ways of making the Bat.

Here's hoping "Vengeance 2" is longer, cooler, and tighter controlled than the first--after all, Ubi Soft made the steller "Splinter Cell"..get some of that game talent to do Vengeance... :cool:

-BB

[NightwingWC]

Ok, I have xbox and i just got the game. so far, here is my review.

First of all, I would like to comliment the cinematic graphics. they are extraordinary. next, i would like to complain. controlling batman is EXTREMELY hard. the camera changes every second. also, when you have batman run, he doesn't use his arms at all. fighting sucks. you have two buttons, one for arms, and one for legs.

when you hit people, you hear the crappy kzzzzz for a punch sound. the batgrapple is nice though, you can use it whenever you want. batarangs are pretty much useless in the game though.

altogethor, unless ur a batman fanatic, don't buy this game. however, if you are a fanatic, i highly reccomend it. like i said, it has a great story line that follows the comix exactly. you have the new batgirl, barb in the clock tower, tim, and there is even a reference to bludhaven. alltogethor, i think this would have made a better movie than a game.

_______________________________________________________

Nuns and dynamite.

[The Penguin]

So basically the impression I'm getting is that major video games folks hate Batman: Dark Tomorrow like there's no tomorrow I thank you. but hardcore fans of the Bat are really enjoying the story and taking the gameplay for what it's worth.

That sound about right?

[Batman's Biggest Fan]

Oh come on it's got to be better than that. I hope I like it, I reserved it.

[randomguy]

Rented it this weekend, and yeah, it's pretty bad. The control is awful, the difficulty is cheap (usually resulting from guys getting up before you can handcuff them or some obstacle based puzzle that makes no sense), the graphics suck, and the gadget interface is great... right up until you have to use them. Seriously, scrolling gadgets with the D-pad is a huge improvement over Batman: Vengance, but Batarangs are completely impractical, and the Batcable and Batgrapple both feel terrible. The "feel" of the game is clunky. The combat system is about as dull as it gets. There's only one option: play the game. No tutorial mode, no extra missions or time trials or versus modes. It's not terrible, mind you... it's just mediocre and completely unastonishing. You don't really feel like Batman, just any other bad action hero.

But, for the hardcore Batman fan, it's worth renting. The cinemas are the most publicized part of the game, and with good reason: they might be the finest cinematics in any video game ever. Period. The direction is brilliant, the animation is smooth, the environments are astoundingly well-rendered, and the characters look great. Camera angles rule, and action scenes are hopelessly well-choreographed. It really is beautiful animation, like seeing the comic come to life, and its better moments, in my opinion, trump anything that even BTAS or TNBA have done. This style could serve as the template for an amazing TV series or movie. The voice acting and story are excellent, as well. The game is nearly worth buying just to see these cinemas, but no cinema, no matter how awesome, can undo bad gameplay, and such is the case for Batman: Dark Tomorrow. Rent it, but don't buy it.

[Robin2099]

So basically the impression I'm getting is that major video games folks hate Batman: Dark Tomorrow like there's no tomorrow I thank you. but hardcore fans of the Bat are really enjoying the story and taking the gameplay for what it's worth.

That sound about right?
Yep, that's pretty much it.

[Clayface]

I don't think this was mentioned anywhere else in the thread yet, so I'll throw it out there:

EGM gave this game 2.0/10, 1.5/10, and 1/10. One reviewer called it the worst licensed game ever, and another said it was a contender for worst game of the year.

Ah well, this is a rental at best for me.

[Beat]

The final nail in the coffin for this game comes from XPlay, where they gave it a 1 out of 5, saying the only good thing about it was that it didn't have George Clooney.