Japanese TV-Tokyo Broadcast Talkback - Demashitaa! PowerPuff Girls Z

[ChibiGoku]

http://www.sonicfighters.com/FightingMagic/PPGZ/talkback.jpg

Start: July 1st, 2006
Time:7:00AM
Station: TV-Tokyo

Story

After a chemical reaction change in "Chemical X" that causes it to become "Chemical Z", An experiment is heald on an iceburg that causes two shards of ray of light to spread over Tokyo City. One of light, and one of darkness. A group of teenagers: Momoko, Miyako, and Kaoru are hit by the "Light" ray, who are soon given SuperPowers. However, several people are also hit with a light of darkness, and change into villians. What can this mean for Tokyo City?

Episodes

Episode 1 - "Arrival of the girls! Birth of the girls!"
Episode 2 - "Pleasant Bubbles! Part 1 | Pleasant Bubbles! Part 2"
Episode 3 - "Concentrate, Girls! Part 1 | Concentrate, Girls! Part 2"
Episode 4 - "Girls, A Family Bond! Part 1 | Girls, A Family Bond! Part 2"
Episode 5 - "Mojo's Revenge - Mojo!" | "The Amazing View! The PowerPuff Z Outlook Tower." (Ten. Title, was changed)
Episode 6 - "Fuzzy Lumkins!" | "The Child Princess (HimeKo), Princess!"
Episode 7 - "One's Wish! Momoko's Lover!" | "The Inhuman Trio? The Amebia Boys"
Episode 8 - "The Seductive Woman! Sedusa Part 1" | "The Seductive Woman! Sedusa Part 2"
Episode 9 - "Coach Kaoru's Intense Soccer!" | "Fuzzy Falls in Love!"
Episode 10 - "The Charisma Elegant Painter Monster Part 1" | "The Charisma Elegant Painter Monster Part 2"
Episode 11 - "To the depths of Space, Princess!" | "Follow the Cake Thief!"

Characters

Regular

To Be Added


Villians

Mojo Jojo - Once a monkey at Tokyo Zoo, he was hit by the Black Light, and transformed into a monkey with increadible intellagence. He soon goes off to get his revenge on the humans for mistreating him at the Zoo. Soon after encountering Great Michel, he soon becomes aware of other villains exist, other than just him.

Fuzzy Lumpkins - Almost identical to his original counter part, Fuzzy Lumpkins seems to not want anyone to be on his territory (or property in the original). He than soon goes on a range in Tokyo City, claiming everything there is his territory. He's soon defeated by the PowerPuff Girls Z, after becoming entranced by Miss Bellum's beauty. Though, he soons goes off and captures Miss Bellum, the PowerPuff Girls Z don't do anything to interfier after learning Fuzzy did it out of Love. Though, they attack him after Fuzzy was about to try and touch Miss Bellum's breasts...

Shirogane Himeko ~ Princess ~ - A young spoiled Rich girl who will do nothing but get attention from her class mates. After being hit by the Black Light, she heads off to school, she starts to hear about the PowerPuff Girls Z getting all the attention, she becomes upset. She soon becomes "Princess" after watching a Telivision program showcasing the PowerPuff Girls Z, hitting her cat's tail. When her cat, Sapphire, meows, it triggers a reaction causing her to transform. After setting up a rebot, and failing to destroy it, the PowerPuff Girls Z end up getting involved, and soon she turns on them. When she has returned back to Himeko, she has no memories of the past events, however she seems to be still wanting to get revenge on the PPGZ. Her trigger, Sapphire, is still in existance.

Sedusa - Sakurako Kintoki is a young owner of a shop, and friends with Momoko, along with Miyako and Kaoru. One day, when the mysterious iceburg incident happens in Tokyo City, she is hit by the Black Light. when Chemical Z breaks off from the Iceburgs. When she goes shopping for lipstick one day, like the one Miss Bellum wears, she comes accross a shop that sells Lipstick. When she tries it on, she becomes Sedusa, and has the ability to change her appearance at will. She soon goes after different shops trying to get whatever it takes to get Souichirou to like her. She is soon defeated by the PowerPuff Girls Z when she goes after a Clothes store. Even though she has returned back to a normal human, she can still turn back into Sedusa unintentionally by putting on lipstick.

Great Michel - Michel,Working as an apprentice Hairstylist, he becomes a monster with the trigger of his talking bear after being hit by the Black Light. He soon begins to use magic to control his customers to like his Charisma Hair Styles, and soon takes over as Management. He then attacks the PowerPuff Girls Z after hearing they are a "Charisma" heroine, and is soon defeated by them, only to return back to his normal state, and redefeated by them. His trigger is then destroyed leaving him unlikely to be able to return to Great Michel.


Other

Original Episode 4 Title -
"I'm going to become Ken's Mother! Part 1
I'm going to become Ken's Mother! Part 2"

Original Episode 5 Title -
"Mojo's Revenge - Mojo!"
"The Amazing View! The PowerPuff Z Outlook Tower."

Original Episode 11 Title -
"Princess Again! The Unusual Detective's Noble Daughter"
"A Weakness of 16 pieces of sweet candy."






I'm setting this up one day early, so that we can start discussing the Promos and what not here, instead of having everything spread over hell on the forums. That, and the episode is airing in less than 22 hours. *shrugs* Again, any prethoughts and what not, and theories can be posted here.

[ChaosZero92]

A pair of teenagers: Momoko, Miyako, and Kaoru are hit by the "Light" ray, who are soon given SuperPowers.

Um, I believe a pair is two.

[ChibiGoku]

Um, I believe a pair is two.

=P Fixed to a "Group".

[Karl Olson]

ADVANCE WARNING!

Anyone who talks about the method which they these used to watch this episode unless they live in Japan and watched it on TV-Tokyo will be warned outright (if not banned if they have a prior record.) Further still, anyone curious as to how people who don't have TV-Tokyo and don't live in Japan are watching the show should just PM one of the people discussing the series. In fact, just PM me. I'll clue you in. But don't ask in this thread. I'll poke you at a minumum (I'll warn if you've got a prior record.)

Normally I wouldn't be so up about this kind of thing, but I have had to warn a lot of people about breaking these kind of rules lately, so I figured that now would be an excellent time to remind people.

-Karl Olson
Head Anime Forum Moderator

[Andrew T. Hingson]

Wow... that's one hardcore disclaimer.

[ChibiGoku]

Yep, it is.

[Dark Fact]

I can't wait to see what comes of this anime. I hope it'll be good...:sweat:

[Karl Olson]

Wow... that's one hardcore disclaimer.

Considering over half of the warnings I've had to deal out this year are violations surrounding piracy in some fashion or another, you can see where I'm a just a bit tired of it, and I'd imagine nothing could beget just those kind of problems like a show like PPGZ which will be getting attention from people who don't normally hang out in the anime scene.

I mean, I really loath being the heavy, but it's been particularly problematic lately, especially since the YouTube boom, and I'm sorta tired of it. The rules are at the top of the forum, and they are pretty clear, and they've been further clarified since. As such, my sympathy almost has to have some limits.

[NinjaJack]

Come on come on!:D

I just can`t wait, haha!

[Dark Fact]

For a moment there, Karl, I thought you were trying to warn us of the dangers of smoking. Then I looked again and it was just a piracy disclaimer. :sweat:

[Nicktooney]

Wow..and I just was about to pop a question,happy I read the disclaimer.

Wait,if it makes it over to US,will the names be Bubble,Blossom,and Butercup? I fell we should have a say since it is a spinoff of the US Powerpuff Girls.

Edit-NVM.Just went to Wilkepedia.

[livingfruitvirus]

Wow..and I just was about to pop a question,happy I read the disclaimer.

Wait,if it makes it over to US,will the names be Bubble,Blossom,and Butercup? I fell we should have a say since it is a spinoff of the US Powerpuff Girls.

Maybe. It would probably be some Bang Zoom! dub with people like Philece Sampler or Kari Wahlgren or Colleen O'Shaughnessey playing the girls too.

[NinjaJack]

Maybe. It would probably be some Bang Zoom! dub with people like Philece Sampler or Kari Wahlgren or Colleen O'Shaughnessey playing the girls too.

I hope we get the same VAs.

[Brent Long]

Maybe. It would probably be some Bang Zoom! dub with people like Philece Sampler or Kari Wahlgren or Colleen O'Shaughnessey playing the girls too.

Well, Colleen's only worked with Bang Zoom once before (Mars Daybreak), so I really doubt she would be involved if they were the dub studio which wouldn't surprise me given's CN's prior relationship with them through IGPX.

Edit: Colleen's relationship with Bang Zoom changed.

[EscaflownePilot]

Is that Nana Kitade doing the song during the promo?

At any rate, I still don't know whether to watch this or not. The promo alone made me want to gag that they could basterdize the PPG like this. And yet, I'm soooo curious about what it'll be like.

[ChibiGoku]

Is that Nana Kitade doing the song during the promo?



Yep!

[Tash]

Is that Nana Kitade doing the song during the promo?

At any rate, I still don't know whether to watch this or not. The promo alone made me want to gag that they could basterdize the PPG like this. And yet, I'm soooo curious about what it'll be like.
I agree, but I'm not expecting much. (that, and Bubbles is one of the ugliest anime characters I've ever seen in my life. Where are the rest of her eyebrows?)

[Marvin Tikvah]

Wait...the girls are now teenagers??? Almost as strange as Ms. Bellum being a blond now.

[Undrave]

I have no particular attachement to Powerpuff Girl so I'm really curious about this show. I'm hoping to at least catch the opening at one point or another. Looks like it could be fun ^^

[ChibiGoku]

http://www.sonicfighters.com/FightingMagic/PPGZ/PPGZ%20Broadcast/1.jpg
http://www.sonicfighters.com/FightingMagic/PPGZ/PPGZ%20Broadcast/2.jpg
http://www.sonicfighters.com/FightingMagic/PPGZ/PPGZ%20Broadcast/3.jpg
http://www.sonicfighters.com/FightingMagic/PPGZ/PPGZ%20Broadcast/4.jpg
http://www.sonicfighters.com/FightingMagic/PPGZ/PPGZ%20Broadcast/5.jpg
http://www.sonicfighters.com/FightingMagic/PPGZ/PPGZ%20Broadcast/6.jpg
http://www.sonicfighters.com/FightingMagic/PPGZ/PPGZ%20Broadcast/7.jpg
http://www.sonicfighters.com/FightingMagic/PPGZ/PPGZ%20Broadcast/9.JPG
http://www.sonicfighters.com/FightingMagic/PPGZ/PPGZ%20Broadcast/10.JPG
http://www.sonicfighters.com/FightingMagic/PPGZ/PPGZ%20Broadcast/11.JPG
http://www.sonicfighters.com/FightingMagic/PPGZ/PPGZ%20Broadcast/12.JPG
http://www.sonicfighters.com/FightingMagic/PPGZ/PPGZ%20Broadcast/13.jpg
http://www.sonicfighters.com/FightingMagic/PPGZ/PPGZ%20Broadcast/14.jpg
http://www.sonicfighters.com/FightingMagic/PPGZ/PPGZ%20Broadcast/15.jpg

[ChibiGoku]

Confirmed Characters:

Princess
Mojo Jojo
KARE (Him)
Rowdy Ruff Boys
Sedusa
Gang Green Gang
Omeba Family (And...they're small O_O)

[veemonjosh]

http://www.sonicfighters.com/FightingMagic/PPGZ/PPGZ%20Broadcast/3.jpg
http://www.sonicfighters.com/FightingMagic/PPGZ/PPGZ%20Broadcast/4.jpg

http://www.sonicfighters.com/FightingMagic/PPGZ/PPGZ%20Broadcast/7.jpg

I just know SOMEONE's going to make "I'd Hit That" pictures of these...:sweat:

[NinjaJack]

Confirmed Characters:

Princess
Mojo Jojo
KARE (Him)
Rowdy Ruff Boys
Sedusa
Gang Green Gang
Omeba Family (And...they're small O_O)



*drools*

I want to see The boys decked out in some cool S.W.A.T team or Ninja suits.

Princess should have some golden powersuit

Kare should look totally like he`s harmless, but able to power up to his true form.

Sedusa, well what would I change.

Gang Green Gang should be funny but I want more action!

I and those pictures, where did you get them man? I must see the full transformations.:lol:

[ChibiGoku]

You know something? So much for no naughty shots...

[NinjaJack]

You know something? So much for no naughty shots...

At least they`re clothed instead of the shining sillouetes of most Shoujo series henshins.

[Undrave]

Crime fighting Transformation! Blossom!
White Transformation! Bubbles!
Powerful Transformation! Buttercup!

OMEGA KAWAII!!!

They look adorable IMO ^^

So which one is which? I mean Momoko, Miyako and Kaoru? I'm guessing Momoko is Blossom since momo=pink...

[NinjaJack]

I don`t care about Bellum being red or blonde
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v131/DragoKamen/charamain_08.jpg
Really.

[ChibiGoku]

I don`t care about Bellum being red or blonde
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v131/DragoKamen/charamain_08.jpg
Really.

Wait till you see Sedusa's boobs.

[Funkatron]

I don`t care about Bellum being red or blonde
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v131/DragoKamen/charamain_08.jpg
Really.

They really took the faceless thing seriously :p

Wow...and I thought Nanoha was pushing the lolimeter.

[ChibiGoku]

For people waiting, I did a go ahead and upped the transformation sequences to youtube.

Blossom's Transformation (HYPER BLOSSOM) (http://youtube.com/watch?v=Q4kkCI29Fq4)

Buttercup's Transformation (POWERED BUTTERCUP) (http://youtube.com/watch?v=yrA56TQj6I4)

Bubbles' Transformation (Rolling Bubbles) (http://youtube.com/watch?v=65ngSAwDavc)

[Timmay]

So.. the powerpuff lolis have arrived.

[BrokenZaku]

I just know SOMEONE's going to make "I'd Hit That" pictures of these...:sweat:

http://img181.imageshack.us/img181/9620/buttercup5fn.png

I just had to do it :lol:

[Funkatron]

For people waiting, I did a go ahead and upped the transformation sequences to youtube.

Blossom's Transformation (HYPER BLOSSOM) (http://youtube.com/watch?v=Q4kkCI29Fq4)

Buttercup's Transformation (POWERED BUTTERCUP) (http://youtube.com/watch?v=yrA56TQj6I4)

Bubbles' Transformation (Rolling Bubbles) (http://youtube.com/watch?v=65ngSAwDavc)
Wow...a lot more Kinetic and fun than your average transformation sequence

[Ryoutarou]

Looks good, they did a good job with the magical girl henshin parody.

[Undrave]

Rollingu Bubblesu hehehe...those crazy japanese... Rolling? :p

Those transformations are crazy oO really fast, lots of movement and stretch-like animation, really changes from the blocky style of the old PPG :p

I like Buttercup's transformation the best ^_^

Cool.

[Funkatron]

Is the opening safe to post?: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ra-ZdPQCTrQ

[Undrave]

That's a cool opening ^^ the show look funny (in a Japanese way :p ) and fun!

Is the mayor Buttercup's father?? (I still don't know which one is which...) Could thep rofessor'S son be Blossom (I'm guessing Momoko) love interest?!

:p

[Ultra8]

Nice Op and the transformations are clever if a bit long reminds me of the ones from Doremi 3rd series: More!!
Very Kawaii:anime:

[Space Cadet]

For people waiting, I did a go ahead and upped the transformation sequences to youtube.

Blossom's Transformation (HYPER BLOSSOM) (http://youtube.com/watch?v=Q4kkCI29Fq4)

Buttercup's Transformation (POWERED BUTTERCUP) (http://youtube.com/watch?v=yrA56TQj6I4)

Bubbles' Transformation (Rolling Bubbles) (http://youtube.com/watch?v=65ngSAwDavc)

Even though I haven't seen the first episode, if Mizugi ever wanted their own exclusive show, this is it.

[ChibiGoku]

Even though I haven't seen the first episode, if Mizugi ever wanted their own exclusive show, this is it.

Unfortently, with the "Upskirt shots" and a few panty shots, along with those leg shots, I have doubts this would fit on Miguzi.

[ChaosZero92]

Unfortently, with the "Upskirt shots" and a few panty shots, along with those leg shots, I have doubts this would fit on Miguzi.

Panty shots? On TV Tokyo? I doubt that. :p

If anything, this would probably go on Toonami.

[ChibiGoku]

Panty shots? On TV Tokyo? I doubt that. :p

If anything, this would probably go on Toonami.

No. This show does have upskirts and one or two panty shots.

[ChaosZero92]

No. This show does have upskirts and one or two panty shots.

This couldn't go on Toonami, let alone Miguzi. :(

[ChibiGoku]

http://www.sonicfighters.com/FightingMagic/PPGZ/PPGZ%20Broadcast/UpSkirtShot.JPG

Need I say more?

[ChaosZero92]

http://www.sonicfighters.com/FightingMagic/PPGZ/PPGZ%20Broadcast/UpSkirtShot.JPG

Need I say more?

You needn't. Nothing is revealed.

[ChibiGoku]

You needn't. Nothing is revealed.

Still, it's an upskirt shot, which is equally as bad. (There's a few others if I recall, including the ending sequence with a full blown upskirt shot as they fly by)

[ChaosZero92]

Still, it's an upskirt shot, which is equally as bad. (There's a few others if I recall, including the ending sequence with a full blown upskirt shot as they fly by)

Wha? I see those all the time on TV Tokyo anime, even in some American cartoons. That's not revealing enough to be deemed offensive in my opinion.

[TnAdct1]

I just know SOMEONE's going to make "I'd Hit That" pictures of these...:sweat: Tell me about it. While I was relieved to see that the girls' henshin sequence isn't of the "nude" variety, the fact that the PPG's outfits are like the Sailor Senshi outfits (i.e. it's basically a bodysuit/leotard with a skirt) will definitely cause a few people to think "dirty" thoughts when it comes to the Japanese version of the Powerpuff girls.

[Tea]

Found some villain images.

http://img270.imageshack.us/img270/765/villains6js.th.jpg (http://img270.imageshack.us/my.php?image=villains6js.jpg)
Villain lineup. Notice how Princess' picture is glued up at the top.

http://img221.imageshack.us/img221/7164/boyscloseup4ee.th.jpg (http://img221.imageshack.us/my.php?image=boyscloseup4ee.jpg)
Yep, it's the RowdyRuff Boys.

http://img305.imageshack.us/img305/1372/11517063313724c980af.th.jpg (http://img305.imageshack.us/my.php?image=11517063313724c980af.jpg)
Villains dressed up for a dance. Him's redesign as a jack-in-the-box type clown bothers me as does Snake's (and Buttercup's yellow jacket).

http://img416.imageshack.us/img416/6539/11517049428100kv.th.jpg (http://img416.imageshack.us/my.php?image=11517049428100kv.jpg)
Just some more close-ups.

[Karl Olson]

well would you look at that, Cartoon Network's name right in the credits. Any person worrying that someone other than CN's gonna get needs to calm down now.

and yeah, the content issues are going to be interesting.

PS: no more clips beyond maybe adding the ed. anything beyond that isn't allowed.

[William C. Maune]

Unfortently, with the "Upskirt shots" and a few panty shots, along with those leg shots, I have doubts this would fit on Miguzi.

Didn't stop Code Lyoko.

[Ultra8]

http://img305.imageshack.us/img305/1372/11517063313724c980af.th.jpg (http://img305.imageshack.us/my.php?image=11517063313724c980af.jpg)
Villains dressed up for a dance. Him's redesign as a jack-in-the-box type clown bothers me as does Snake's (and Buttercup's yellow jacket).
.
Judging by the pic I think they may have made Lil Arturo a girl. Looks like we may have a new addition to the rogue's gallery(top hat in the right-hand corner). I like Princess' new look and Him's....well it's different-yet-not to different.

[Tea]

Judging by the pic I think they may have made Lil Arturo a girl. Looks like we may have a new addition to the rogue's gallery(top hat in the right-hand corner).
Good catch on Arturo. Actually I'm pretty sure the top-hat is the Amoeba family stacked on one another.

[Ultra8]

http://ppgcom.gooside.com/ppgz/ppgz01/ppgZ01_02.jpg
Look's like the girls aren't the only ones with secret identities. Assuming that's who I think it is.

[Lychii]

Was it me or that transformation scene resembled the ones from Ojamajo Doremi? It could be the 1h30 speaking but it really did ... only more sporatic and work out-y.

[Tokoro No Ataru]

OK, watched the footage of what I could...hopefully they take more the parody line than the conventional magical-girl path with this show...heck, I'm just hoping its a success somewhere! (then again, don't look to the "Top 5 sites" on the TV-Tokyo site...usually the top is pretty much rotating between ninja, shinigami, duelists and...er, Pikachu) While there are some things that I think are a bit much (see faceless Bellum and taking away the shrimpy, idiot-looking nature of the mayor), I think this should be fun.

BTW: Another villain confirmation: that white cat that brainwashed Utonium is in the opening fighting with that "dog" in a blink-and-you-miss-it moment.

[stephane dumas]

Didn't stop Code Lyoko.

and Totally Spies ;)

[Undrave]

I wouldn't call them panty shots, they're wearing leotard/bodysuits...

It's nothing worse than if they were in bathing suits... they showed that kind of shots in Sailor Moon all the time and isn't that the sort of costumes cheerleaders usually wear so they can do cartwheels without fear of being 'exposed' ?

[ChibiGoku]

BTW: Another villain confirmation: that white cat that brainwashed Utonium is in the opening fighting with that "dog" in a blink-and-you-miss-it moment.

I kept forgetting to put him up, along with Fuzzy Lumpkins.

[Undrave]

Actually the cat and the dog aren't fighting. They just slide across the screen and the cat is just sorta resting on that dog thing.

Pause at the right moment and you can see them.

[TnAdct1]

http://ppgcom.gooside.com/ppgz/ppgz01/ppgZ01_02.jpg
Look's like the girls aren't the only ones with secret identities. Assuming that's who I think it is....and after seeing an earlier picture on this board, I have a feeling that your hunch is correct.

[Undrave]

Well the professor is indeed wearing pink in the opening... but I'd see him more as a teacher in the same school than THEIR teacher... I mean dyeing his hair??

At least Princess is in their class XD

[ChibiGoku]

Actually the cat and the dog aren't fighting. They just slide across the screen and the cat is just sorta resting on that dog thing.

Pause at the right moment and you can see them.

Yes, I know. I know. It's just I forgot about them when I saw the opening sequence yestorday.

[ChibiGoku]

PS: no more clips beyond maybe adding the ed. anything beyond that isn't allowed.

Karl Olson, is it alright if the NExt Episode previews are linked? TV-Tokyo usually puts them on their site, so...

EDIT: I just realized I double posted. Ah well.


At least Princess is in their class XD

Heh. She still looks like a spoiled brat, judging from the opening sequence.

[Undrave]

Yeah she looks like she'S complaining to Mojo Jojo about not being in the picture :p

[ChibiGoku]

I just noticed another issue in PowerPuff Girls Z...

I'm not 100% sure as of yet, sense we haven't gone into any character pasts, but Kaoru (Buttercup) is being followed by girls who apparently want to go out with her. This is getting the impression that Kaoru is bisexual or a lesbian. It doesn't help that Kaoru is very tomb boyish and wears boy clothes. She also doesn't like wearing girl clothings at all.

This'll... be interesting.

[Undrave]

I just noticed another issue in PowerPuff Girls Z...

I'm not 100% sure as of yet, sense we haven't gone into any character pasts, but Kaoru (Buttercup) is being followed by girls who apparently want to go out with her. This is getting the impression that Kaoru is bisexual or a lesbian. It doesn't help that Kaoru is very tomb boyish and wears boy clothes. She also doesn't like wearing girl clothings at all.

This'll... be interesting.

I doubt that's the issue... I think she's idolized by the other girls... it's something fairly common in anime (for exemple a lot of the girls are totally idolizing Sakaki in Azumanga Daoih, Kaorin being an extreme exemple of such case).

It also seem, from the openeing, that Bubbles (she's Miyako I'm guessing?) is fairly populars with the boys.

[ChibiGoku]

It also seem, from the openeing, that Bubbles (she's Miyako I'm guessing?) is fairly populars with the boys.

She is.

[Tea]

http://ppgcom.gooside.com/ppgz/ppgz01/ppgZ01_02.jpg
Look's like the girls aren't the only ones with secret identities. Assuming that's who I think it is.
I think that's also Elmer Sglue in the second row, middle. Mitch Michelson might be the one on the right, but he could be any spikey-headed brown-haired kid. The girl in the center with blue hair looks reeaallly familiar but I can't put my finger on it.

[GuardianKid13]

http://img221.imageshack.us/img221/7164/boyscloseup4ee.th.jpg (http://img221.imageshack.us/my.php?image=boyscloseup4ee.jpg)
Yep, it's the RowdyRuff Boysthey appeared in the show earlier than I expected:sweat: !

[Gokou Ruri]

http://ppgcom.gooside.com/ppgz/ppgz01/ppgZ01_02.jpg
Look's like the girls aren't the only ones with secret identities. Assuming that's who I think it is. That brown haired kid under the teacher's chin looks like Mitch Mitchleson.

As for the show itself... I do not like it, at all. Though I will watch it a little bit more just to see what they do to Him, Princess, and some other characters I liked from the original show.

[ChibiGoku]

Just some notes for those wondering about some of the names.

Him will be known as Kare in this show, due to the japanese dub naming him this.

Princess will be known as Himeko. While it translates into Child Princess (Meaning, it's technically the same name), this is odd because in the japanese dub, Princess WAS called Princess.

Mojo's name I"m not 100% sure on. several sites say different things. (Offical sources mind you.) It's still Mojo, but he has a slight add-on to his name, but I'm not 100% sure.

Mayor's name is Mayor Shichou. (Or, literally, Mayor Mayor)

And, I think that pretty much covers it.

[Space Cadet]

Since this is airing on TV Tokyo, I wonder if Cartoon Network Japan will air reruns of this.

[ChibiGoku]

Since this is airing on TV Tokyo, I wonder if Cartoon Network Japan will air reruns of this.

Apparently CN of Japan aired a commercial for this. I'll have to confirm this though.

[veemonjosh]

I'm wondering, is that dog suppose to be the Talking Dog?

(I don't know, I have no way of seeing the episode itself)

[ChibiGoku]

I'm wondering, is that dog suppose to be the Talking Dog?

No. It's a little different. It's actualy a robot dog that was created apparently by Utonium. He is only able to speak because he was hit by the White Light.

EDIT: You know, I just realized there hasn't been anyone asking for the episodes yet.

Hm... One can debate if that's a good or bad sign.

[Space Cadet]

Apparently CN of Japan aired a commercial for this. I'll have to confirm this though.


Oh really? I wonder if it would air on their Toonami or somewhere else.

[Tash]

No. It's a little different. It's actualy a robot dog that was created apparently by Utonium. He is only able to speak because he was hit by the White Light.
So in other words, it's the "Bizarro Z world" equivilent to Talking Dog?

[Undrave]

So...which girl turns into which PPG?

No one asked for episodes because of the huge disclaimer XD seems like it worked!

[Rob_TF]

Princess will be known as Himeko. While it translates into Child Princess (Meaning, it's technically the same name), this is odd because in the japanese dub, Princess WAS called Princess.

Mojo's name I"m not 100% sure on. several sites say different things. (Offical sources mind you.) It's still Mojo, but he has a slight add-on to his name, but I'm not 100% sure.
http://www.toei-anim.co.jp/tv/ppgz/chara/index9.html - Toei's site calls Mojo by the name he always had, "Mojo Jojo."

http://www.sonymusic.co.jp/Animation/ppgz/staff/index.html - Aniplex's site says Himeko is 白金姫子 (Shirogane Himeko), not just plain Himeko.

[Undrave]

Shirogane is her family name so I guess it's okay.

[Vallen Valiant]

http://www.sonymusic.co.jp/Animation/ppgz/staff/index.html - Aniplex's site says Himeko is 白金姫子 (Shirogane Himeko), not just plain Himeko.

Actually, Princess does have a surname, and it is "Morbucks" in the US version. A pun on "more money".

"Shirogane" means "platinum", a metal more valuable than gold. That's not too bad a replacement. The "more bucks" pun would be difficult to translate directly from English...:p

[D.Shaffer]

Wow. That was a very...surreal show. :) I'm not sure if I like it yet. It was just way to much stuff tossed at you at once. However, it IS very bright and colorful, with nicely 'perky' character designs for the girls.

The Henshin sequences are a weee bit much, but hopefully they'll get shortened after the first few eps, like they usually do. I wouldnt worry to much about the upskirt shots. They're not really showing anything to begin with, and it's made clear they're wearing one pieces undert he skirts anyways. :sweat:

[veemonjosh]

Actually, Princess does have a surname, and it is "Morbucks" in the US version. A pun on "more money".

"Shirogane" means "platinum", a metal more valuable than gold. That's not too bad a replacement. The "more bucks" pun would be difficult to translate directly from English...:p

Huh, I always thought the Morbucks name was a reference to Annie. Guess I was wrong. :p

[Vallen Valiant]

Huh, I always thought the Morbucks name was a reference to Annie. Guess I was wrong. :p

It is a reference to Annie,(specifically, Daddy Warbucks.) but how many young kids know that?;)

You need to have a pun that makes sense at the simple level too.

[Tea]

Since no one's posted the ED yet...

http://youtube.com/watch?v=c_kTmTAOpl8

[veemonjosh]

It is a reference to Annie,(specifically, Daddy Warbucks.) but how many young kids know that?;)

You need to have a pun that makes sense at the simple level too.

Thought so. :p

[Vallen Valiant]

Thought so. :p

Another thing...

The park where Blossom first got her powers was called "Shirogane Park". It's likely that Princess's family either own the park, or more likely they had donated money to the city for the park's construction in exchange for having it named after the family. It's a neat touch none the less.

(If there was a "Morbucks Park" in the original series, then I apologize in advance for ignorance. I haven't seen all the episodes.)

[NinjaJack]

I love the OP it`s very catchy and a lot of fun too.

I`ve been everywhere online today, reading peoples responses on various forum outlets. It`s funny how people not familiar with the whole Anime thing are in more repulsive shock about this show then people who are use to this.


"Japan has STOLEN Cartoon Network`s show! Does Cartoon Network know about this?"

"Powerpuff Girls originated in Japan"

Gah:sweat:


Frankly PPG`s audience his frekin` HUGE! And with the advent of a certain do it yourself website thousands of people have been exposed to PPGZ already.
Alot of people in this massive fanbase who are watching this really don`t like anime to begin with, so it`s a new experience with both positive and negative reactions.

Some people think the whole concept is stupid. Not because of the writing or execution, but because they didn`t want the girls to actually grow up. Criag once said in Play magazine that "They`ll never grow up" something along the lines of they`re icons like Fred and Barney.

Of course this was before the fallout after the movie flopped.:shrug:


The other camp that is happy about this hasn`t been able to contain themselves. I want to see the new designs, the upcoming weapons etc.
Because for the people who understand anime and this genre especially, we know that the story always picks up the longer it`s on, they`ll be some kind of power-up before the end and to stay tuned for lots of sweatdrops:sweat:

[PowerZord]

Ok... I saw it last nite, and as a fan of the original show and as a fhe an of any henshin anime show, I gotta comment on this one.


-The lil boy and Prof. utonium reminded me of Astroboy drawing designs.
-The Animation and some of the stuff in this first episode reminds me of Tokyo pig. (Whatever happened to that anime?)

- The henshin is TOO LONG. I don't care if it's a parody of Sailor Moon, it's too long.

- The original pilots and the first episode from the full show had more action than this. It felt tone down. (Maybe the future eps may change..)

- They changed their origins into the usual, get hit by explosions = getting super powers..

- I like their weapons, and the dog.

- The Mayor.. he's bigger, and looks less dumb.
- Miss belum, they changed her hair color..
- The ending song is annoying, I like the opening.


I will keep watching to see how the other villans acts, like "Him" I hope they don't tone him down, or at least adapt the episode where they go into the future, and Townsville is destroyed.

I hope the dub uses the original voices, and changes the names to their originals.

[Undrave]

I dunno how they could return the names to the original because the girls TURN into 'Blossom','Bubbles' and 'Buttercup', it became their secret identity so it'd be silly to see them go from Blossom to... Blossom.

As for the henshin...they're only 30 seconds long! I've seen show with far longer sequences... I mean a lengthy transformation is a STAPLE of magical girls...so you can't really cut it and make it say... Kamen Rider Kabuto long (where they attach their Zecter and say 'Henshin' and in under 10 seconds they are covered by the Masked Form armor :p )

[PowerZord]

I dunno how they could return the names to the original because the girls TURN into 'Blossom','Bubbles' and 'Buttercup', it became their secret identity so it'd be silly to see them go from Blossom to... Blossom.

As for the henshin...they're only 30 seconds long! I've seen show with far longer sequences... I mean a lengthy transformation is a STAPLE of magical girls...so you can't really cut it and make it say... Kamen Rider Kabuto long (where they attach their Zecter and say 'Henshin' and in under 10 seconds they are covered by the Masked Form armor :p )


I din't know that they were called with their original names when henshined, after all I don't speak Japanese. I know it's only 30ss long, but it looks long and Annoying, I mean people complained about the Sailor Senshi henshin sequence and that looked shorter.

The sequence is a bit annoyin, no creativity at all.. I guess the point is to mock Magical girls.

[Duke]

I din't know that they were called with their original names when henshined, after all I don't speak Japanese.
They do say "Hyper Blossom," "Rolling Bubbles," and "Power Buttercup" in English during the transformation sequences.

The music reminds me of the PPG Movie score. It also seems more hip-hop-ish than rock-ish. And while the henshin sequences were a bit long (thanks to always zooming in and out), I did like that the PPG danced to the music while transforming. XD I also liked that all three have their own henshin theme instead of everybody just having one theme.

Everyone suddenly stopping the battle to have some ice cream came out of left field, but I liked it.

I love the fact that a bean paste bun turned Chemical X into Chemical Z.

I really wish they would've given Ken some glasses to push the Dexter homage.

Judging by the opening, Blossom's going to get the majority of the focus, which is really strange since I always figured Buttercup and Bubbles were more popular. :P

Blossom's and Mojo's first meeting was a great scene.

Speaking of Mojo, it seems like he's still a shorty in this series, but he quickly made a suit that makes him more imposing. They also gave him the standard anime characteristic of saying a word after every sentence, in this case "Mojo."

Bubbles' Japanese voice really doesn't fit her at all. They should've switched her and Blossom's voices.

[ChibiGoku]

"Soaring Bubbles,"


Actually, it's Rolling Bubbles. All the sites use Rolling Bubbles. (Aniplex's, TV-Tokyo, Read Me! Girls one magazine scan, Toei's)

[Duke]

Actually, it's Rolling Bubbles. All the sites use Rolling Bubbles. (Aniplex's, TV-Tokyo, Read Me! Girls one magazine scan, Toei's)
Well, I knew it was something "ing," but I couldn't hear the first part (Laptop speakers really, really suck).

[Conan-san]

Since no one's posted the ED yet...

http://youtube.com/watch?v=c_kTmTAOpl8 Eh, good, but doesn't beat Airmaster's ending.

That crap was nuts.

[veemonjosh]

Eh, good, but doesn't beat Airmaster's ending.

That crap was nuts.

Now that I just saw Airmaster's ending...

...:eek:

[NinjaJack]

I love this show, man I just think it`s wonderful! I loved the classic 60s superhero cliche on the origin of their powers.

Hey why is it that they can`t fly near the end?

[ChibiGoku]

I love this show, man I just think it`s wonderful! I loved the classic 60s superhero cliche on the origin of their powers.

Hey why is it that they can`t fly near the end?

Probably because they don't know how.

[Conan-san]

Now that I just saw Airmaster's ending...

...:eek:
Yep, Crazy, innit.

Moving on, huzza for non naked (though long) henshin!

[Keeper]

Probably because they don't know how.

Or they hadn't had enough candy!

I wonder how parents in the U.S. will react to the whole "sweets = more energy, so eat more candy and ice cream!" theme.

[Vallen Valiant]

Or they hadn't had enough candy!

I wonder how parents in the U.S. will react to the whole "sweets = more energy, so eat more candy and ice cream!" theme.

...I don't see how that would cause any more problems than your standard candy TV commercial. And technically it IS true sweets = energy. That's all it has.

[Conan-san]

Or they hadn't had enough candy!

I wonder how parents in the U.S. will react to the whole "sweets = more energy, so eat more candy and ice cream!" theme. With any luck, that will be negated by a herlious "Cavety" episode, something the japanese are masters at
(See Keroro Gunsou and Ouran Host Club).

You could say, "The battle of Kares shall happen again!"?

[NinjaJack]

I really like the Mayor,I`m getting a more Comisioner Gordon feel from him. I know the original parodied the old batman but I`m kind of liking this guy just as much.

[Sprocket]

Wow, it's so...boring. Absolutely nothing about it seemed particularly clever, and the action and fighting sequences were downright lethargic and corner-cutting. But then, it's from Toei and the director of Transformers: Galaxy Force, so I can't say I'm surprised. 'Cause I'm not.

You guys wanna fawn over a moe-tan version of PPG with absolutely none of the wit and kinetic pacing and slapstick that's actually funny from the original PPG, be my guest. I'm gonna sit this one out.

[GuardianKid13]

Ok... I saw it last nite, and as a fan of the original show and as a fhe an of any henshin anime show, I gotta comment on this one.


-The lil boy and Prof. utonium reminded me of Astroboy drawing designs.
-The Animation and some of the stuff in this first episode reminds me of Tokyo pig. (Whatever happened to that anime?)

- The henshin is TOO LONG. I don't care if it's a parody of Sailor Moon, it's too long.

- The original pilots and the first episode from the full show had more action than this. It felt tone down. (Maybe the future eps may change..)

- They changed their origins into the usual, get hit by explosions = getting super powers..

- I like their weapons, and the dog.

- The Mayor.. he's bigger, and looks less dumb.
- Miss belum, they changed her hair color..
- The ending song is annoying, I like the opening.


I will keep watching to see how the other villans acts, like "Him" I hope they don't tone him down, or at least adapt the episode where they go into the future, and Townsville is destroyed.

I hope the dub uses the original voices, and changes the names to their originals.maybe they'll speed up the transformations in the upcoming episodes

[ChaosZero92]

Wow, it's so...boring. Absolutely nothing about it seemed particularly clever, and the action and fighting sequences were downright lethargic and corner-cutting. But then, it's from Toei and the director of Transformers: Galaxy Force, so I can't say I'm surprised. 'Cause I'm not.

You guys wanna fawn over a moe-tan version of PPG with absolutely none of the wit and kinetic pacing and slapstick that's actually funny from the original PPG, be my guest. I'm gonna sit this one out.

I can't agree with you more... I thought the target demographic was being aimed at older kids because that's what I saw in the preview. This is a ridiculous excuse for an anime. Its slow-paced humor didn't get a chuckle out of me, and the ice cream scene was uncalled for.

I really expected better from this.

[Undrave]

I don't see how you could have them any faster... they only last 30 seconds... the only way I see it is cutting some of the pose they make when their vest are all shiney and maybe the shot of their boots.

At least it doesn't use an absurb amount of spinning like some other magical girl shows.

[Duke]

Why were people expecting this to be aimed at older audiences? It airs on Sunday morning in Japan, and Sunday morning shows are ALWAYS aimed at kids.

[ChibiGoku]

Why were people expecting this to be aimed at older audiences? It airs on Sunday morning in Japan, and Sunday morning shows are ALWAYS aimed at kids.

You mean Saturday.

[Vallen Valiant]

People who think PPGZ is aimed at older audiences has the wrong idea; it is definitely a kids-show.

What gave people the idea that the show aimed for older audiences? Is it because the main characters are no longer in kindergarden?

I don't remember the original PPG aiming for a kindergarden audience... The age of the characters shouldn't be an issue.

[NinjaJack]

Hey they seem to have a new clip floating around, the henshin sequences were cut and spliced
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_wDWXGl-Hco&search=powerpuff%20girl%20z



This show is boring for folks looking for copy and paste PPG, in which if it were the case they would be complaining on it not copying and pasting enough.:sweat:

[Conan-san]

You mean Saturday. and whilst it might not be a valid example, Eureka seveN did air at exactly that time, however, I do recall that being because Bones got punk'd.

[ChibiGoku]

and whilst it might not be a valid example, Eureka seveN did air at exactly that time, however, I do recall that being because Bones got punk'd.

...Oh Yes. Eureka 7 incidents. Still odd that show aired at the timeslot it did.

[Beat]

And before anyone else uses the joke...

http://checkoutthis.info/Images/forgreatgay.jpg

OBJECTION!

[NinjaJack]

Hey I just noticed they wear rings after they henshin.

Buttercup, In Brightest Day
http://i50.photobucket.com/albums/f340/tafsundance/ppgz/db2d3730.jpg

[ChaosZero92]

Why were people expecting this to be aimed at older audiences? It airs on Sunday morning in Japan, and Sunday morning shows are ALWAYS aimed at kids.


People who think PPGZ is aimed at older audiences has the wrong idea; it is definitely a kids-show.

What gave people the idea that the show aimed for older audiences? Is it because the main characters are no longer in kindergarden?

I don't remember the original PPG aiming for a kindergarden audience... The age of the characters shouldn't be an issue.

Read my post again.

[PowerZord]

You may disagree with me, but, I think the original Pilots for the original cartoon had much more action than this. So far I'm not liking this Anime magical girl, parody. and the Henshins are still annoying, heck, people complained about Sailor Moon Henshins being too long. But of course I will still give it a chance, to see how they adapt the villans.

I notice as well, that people seem to get upset over that some of us dint like the show, and I knew it wasn't aimed at older audiences, but it looks like they decreased the original target. it looks like something someone would watch on Tickle U. or whatever is called that block.

But of course, is only an opinion, and the show is just starting, so it might change during the course.

[Conan-san]

my only real issue is the fact that Mojo Jojo Doesn't have his "Speed Racer" lisp.

And giving I have no clue how it worked in the orgional PPG over there, that might be a non issue.

[Duke]

my only real issue is the fact that Mojo Jojo Doesn't have his "Speed Racer" lisp.
I think they replaced it with his "-mojo" speech.

[Tea]

My review for episode one!

As a fan of both mahou shoujo and the original PPG, I had to see this. So keep in mind I've been desensitized to sugary low-substance shows a long time ago. (Warning: spoilers below)

The show takes place in Tokyo City where Professor Utonium has apparently moved to. (And had a son named Ken in the process) They also have a robotic dog named Peach(y) whom I like to think is the equivalent of the Talking Dog from the original. Chemical X makes an appearance but due to a rice cake accident, it becomes the stronger "Chemical Z." A big iceberg is in Tokyo Bay which is the cause of weird weather all over the world. Ken shoots it with Chemical Z (of course) and light and dark rays scatter all over the city.

I actually think it's a clever way of explaining how the girls get their powers and why there's a billion mutated bad guys running around. Blossom saves a kid with a yoyo from the white light (just after she was fawning over some upper classmen) and gets a super powered yoyo as a weapon and hearts as her trademark. Makes sense.

As far as characterization go, Blossom has been given some new dimensions such as being a little boy-crazy and a sweets lover. So far they haven't revealed that she's an intellect but I hope they at least keep that intact! Probably not though, since this IS shoujo and all shoujo leads are always late, love-nuts, and bad students. :shrug: Gah.

Bubbles actually now has a low level voice, which I surprisingly like. She's admired by all the boys and enjoys shopping. No surprise there. Buttercup is the female idol of their Junior high school, dresses in a Tom Boy fashion, and skateboards. Again, nothing surprising. (except for the idol thing. Does that actually happen in Japanese schools??) So far the only character taken liberties with is Blossom, which is understandable because she did lack a few dimensions in the original.

Mojo is given a taller appearance to seem more menacing. So far, his plans are pretty asinine, involving taking candy from little kids and freeing animals from the zoo. But maybe he just needs more time to develop. I miss his reiterative speech patterns. Now he just says "-mojo" at the end of everything. Then again, I think I read somewhere that due to dubbing issues, this was never translated into the original Japanese version of the PPG.
The Mayor is there, and Ms. Bellum's a blonde. Ms. Bellum is practically the same minus her red suit, and the Mayor is a little dumb but so far not to the lengths he was in the original.

What is disappointing is the action. So far, it's not taken seriously at all. I know their weapons were originally toys, but it shouldn't act like that when they're fighting! Buttercup's mallet doesn't pack punch, and Blossom would do a lot better with that yoyo if it actually had an effect. I really miss how they use to fight in the original. Hell, they had better fight choreography in the pilot. Even Pretty Cure had better action in their first episode. Even the original PPG's had better fight scenes! Let's hope this improves.

I actually like the magical girl aspect and their upbeat transformation scenes. It's cute and energetic like Ojamajo Doremi.. and since Hiromi Seki is in it, that explains why. Imo, Doremi always did transform scenes the best so the show's in good hands (in that aspect).

The comedy is there but not in full-force like the original. Even if it was, would Japanese humor really translate that well? This show airs at early morning (evident by the clock in the left hand corner most children shows have) and, like any mahou shoujo show, is aimed at a younger female audience. This is evidently off-putting by many fans of the original which appealed to older audiences. So who would like this show? Mahou shoujo lovers, little girls, cute-addicts, and curious PPG fans. Me, I'm just happy to have more Powerpuff episodes and I love magical girl shows. So it's a nice mix for me. Plus, it opens up new opportunities. Will the RRB be as disgusting and cruel as the original, or will they be more cunning? Will Bunny make a normal appearance? (I always wished she didn't turn out the way she did in the original and, ya know.. imploded)

The next episode seems to be following typical shoujo pattern where the leader meets the next team mate, so Buttercup fans will have to sit tight until at least the third episode.

[Bubblegum Girl]

I think they replaced it with his "-mojo" speech.

I like that. it's pretty funny.

(Is it ok if I talk about? I did see it through YouTube....:sweat:)

I thought PPGZ was ok. I'm just real anxious to see the rest of the PPG baddies(Espeically the Rowdyruffs ;) ) I really like the opening songs and the transformation sequence, not to mention the outfits.

I'm gonna give the show a chance. ;)

[NinjaJack]

Something about that I always wondered about. If he was making fun of Speed Racer and poorly done Asian movies, wouldn`t they find that offensive when it`s in an ASIAN TV SHOW?

[Duke]

As far as characterization go, Blossom has been given some new dimensions such as being a little boy-crazy and a sweets lover. So far they haven't revealed that she's an intellect but I hope they at least keep that intact! Probably not though, since this IS shoujo and all shoujo leads are always late, love-nuts, and bad students. :shrug: Gah.
The difference is that there's usually a #2 girl there who's a super-nerd. Neither Bubbles or Buttercup are like that, though. The super-nerd will probably be Utonium and Ken, but they'll probably have Blossom be a bit smarter than normal.


The next episode seems to be following typical shoujo pattern where the leader meets the next team mate, so Buttercup fans will have to sit tight until at least the third episode.
Actually, I think this follows the two-episodes-per-half-hour format, so we'll likely see Buttercup's initiation during the 2nd half of episode 2.

[Conan-san]

Something about that I always wondered about. If he was making fun of Speed Racer and poorly done Asian movies, wouldn`t they find that offensive when it`s in an ASIAN TV SHOW? Um...I'd always take it as a Genshiken level jab at themselves rather than anything that's truely outragous.

[NinjaJack]

Um...I'd always take it as a Genshiken level jab at themselves rather than anything that's truely outragous.

Well, what about how they make us into blonde cowboys

[Conan-san]

Well, what about how they make us into blonde cowboysUh, You, mate, I'm scottish. And if Gunsou is anything to go by, we host super ritch people who are masters of kicking ass on thier own accord.

[Andrew T. Hingson]

Well that was something else...

Honestly I just don't know what to think. Compared to the original series it was very uninspired and those Henshin scenes just seemed kinda "wrong" to me. The outfits themselves are pretty hip but the weapons are certainly dissapointing. The origin story kinda sucks... Nice ending sequence though.

I'll catch a bit more before I give up on it I suppose.

When it comes to the US I really hope Tom Kenny is the mayor. Because he'd still fit him really well. Seems like this Mayor is ripped right out of Dai-Guard (personality wise) with his "oh but they're causing a whole lot of damage" bit. Which is sensible since the PPG were pretty notorious for property damage in the original toon.

As for where it might come, obviously CN though it does seem like something I could see airing on KWB for a stint. But it's easily a Miguzi show. Practically made for the block IMO. Or Saturday mornings. Even Toonami if they start aiming some Toonami time towards girl viewership again (something I really don't expect them to do).

[veemonjosh]

As for where it might come, obviously CN though it does seem like something I could see airing on KWB for a stint. But it's easily a Miguzi show. Practically made for the block IMO. Or Saturday mornings. Even Toonami if they start aiming some Toonami time towards girl viewership again (something I really don't expect them to do).

Well, they COULD move Zatch Bell back up to 8:30 and air PPGZ at 8:00. That's the only spot I'd imagine it'd be at.

[Keeper]

Actually, I think this follows the two-episodes-per-half-hour format, so we'll likely see Buttercup's initiation during the 2nd half of episode 2.

Not according to the titles displayed in the trailer.

[OverMaster]

Looks wonderful, except for Him ripping off Quackerjack and the freaky ugly Sedusa. Those two are gonna haunt my nightmares.

[veemonjosh]

Now that I've seen it, yeah, it would be a nice Miguzi show. I would also welcome it to Toonami, since it would be a nice change of pace.

Still, you have to wonder what McCracken thinks of the show.

[Beat]

Still, you have to wonder what McCracken thinks of the show.

I'm sure it amounts to a lot of swearing.

[Space Cadet]

I'm sure it amounts to a lot of swearing.

I thought I read somewhere he said he was curious about the show.

[Beat]

I thought I read somewhere he said he was curious about the show.

That was before he saw the 1st episode, I bet.

[Conan-san]

Those transformations looks like a "reverse streaptease"

O_o;;;

So, so Japanese....
...
Is this your first MaShojo show or something?

[ChibiGoku]

13 more hours...

[SuperSonicvs]

For those who don't know Kare has two meanings in Japanese. The first is him and the second is boyfriend. It only means boyfriend as a noun.

[Keeper]

For those who don't know Kare has two meanings in Japanese. The first is him and the second is boyfriend. It only means boyfriend as a nourn.

Well, it's the same word. "He/him" is more literal definition. It's just used to refer to a boyfriend the same as "anata" ("you") is used by a wife to address her husband. It's no different than in English saying "old lady" or "old man" to refer to a spouse, or "the woman" or... you get the idea.

So, it's not like there's any hidden suggestive meaning in calling Him "Kare" in Japanese. It's a literal translation.

[mikestorm]

I've never EVER come down hard on a show, but in my opinion, this show is a train wreck. The girls got older, but (to me) inexplicably the target audience got younger. The original is far superior to this in every single conceivable way.

Chemical X + Rice Cake = Chemical Z ...really? And who the heck has tea and pastries right next to an open vat of chemicals anyway?

They gave Mojo a lame speech impediment and reduced him to comic relief.

The writers couldn't even come up with unique origins. All three girls get their powers by pulling a small child out of the way of Chemical Z at the last minute.

What's with the materializing rings and trinkets? Make up your mind...do they get their power from a chemical transformation or the gadgets?

They all transform in broad daylight...yet make excuses to get out of class like they have a secret identity?

After 30 seconds of flying around and landing a few punches, Professor Utonium worries about the girls stamina...which is fixed with ice cream?

"Dad...no, I mean Professor Utonium." That's going to get old really quickly.

Mojo can fly and has energy attacks.

This show is a flimsy rip off of Wedding Peach, and the fact that Wedding Peach is superior to this is saying something.

[Duke]

Chemical X + Rice Cake = Chemical Z ...really? And who the heck has tea and pastries right next to an open vat of chemicals anyway?
...And the original series' origin of having the girls being created by sugar, spice, and everything nice with a mysterious (and never explained) Chemical X is more believeable because...?


They gave Mojo a lame speech impediment and reduced him to comic relief.
It's the same speech impediment they gave Mojo in the Japanese version of the original show. And Mojo was always comic relief in the original. The only PPG villian who wasn't comic relief was Him. Maybe Sedusa.


They all transform in broad daylight...yet make excuses to get out of class like they have a secret identity?
Considering they all stopped in the middle of battle to eat ice cream, it sounds about right.


After 30 seconds of flying around and landing a few punches, Professor Utonium worries about the girls stamina...which is fixed with ice cream?
I loved that part. Especially when everybody in the town started to eat ice cream too. :D


"Dad...no, I mean Professor Utonium." That's going to get old really quickly.
o.O You say that like it's going to become his catchphrase.


Mojo can fly and has energy attacks.
So? If it's supposed a literal re-creation of the original PPG, then why bother? If you're gonna do a re-imagining, then make your version stand out.


This show is a flimsy rip off of Wedding Peach, and the fact that Wedding Peach is superior to this is saying something.
Somehow I doubt Wedding Peach was what the writers were aiming for, especially since most of the heads worked on Doremi...

[ChibiGoku]

Added Episode 3's title. Also one screenshot... It's uh... :sweat:

Blame the japanese.

http://www.sonicfighters.com/FightingMagic/PPGZ/PPGZ%20Broadcast%202/1152310617106.jpg

Yes, it's the only one I could fine. Don't like it, too bad. =P

[Duke]

*sigh* Is this yet another quick flash that nobody would blink an eyelash at unless you put it in slow motion?

If so, please stop doing this. It's getting annoying.

[ChibiGoku]

*sigh* Is this yet another quick flash that nobody would blink an eyelash at unless you put it in slow motion?

If so, please stop doing this. It's getting annoying.

To be honest, I wasn't going to post it, but.. Bleh. I honestly don't have any other pictures, sense for some reason the source I get them from came up dry... :sad:

[NinjaJack]

I've never EVER come down hard on a show, but in my opinion, this show is a train wreck. The girls got older, but (to me) inexplicably the target audience got younger. The original is far superior to this in every single conceivable way.

Chemical X + Rice Cake = Chemical Z ...really? And who the heck has tea and pastries right next to an open vat of chemicals anyway?

They gave Mojo a lame speech impediment and reduced him to comic relief.

The writers couldn't even come up with unique origins. All three girls get their powers by pulling a small child out of the way of Chemical Z at the last minute.

What's with the materializing rings and trinkets? Make up your mind...do they get their power from a chemical transformation or the gadgets?

They all transform in broad daylight...yet make excuses to get out of class like they have a secret identity?

After 30 seconds of flying around and landing a few punches, Professor Utonium worries about the girls stamina...which is fixed with ice cream?

"Dad...no, I mean Professor Utonium." That's going to get old really quickly.

Mojo can fly and has energy attacks.

This show is a flimsy rip off of Wedding Peach, and the fact that Wedding Peach is superior to this is saying something.


WOW!

You must be some sort of prophet or something! You managed to take an ENTIRE SERIES like Wedding Peach and compare to 20 MINUTES of anothehr show.

I`m going to have to save this thread and look at it when the story picks up.

[Robert McSantos]

Confirmed Characters:

Princess
Mojo Jojo
KARE (Him)
Rowdy Ruff Boys
Sedusa
Gang Green Gang
Omeba Family (And...they're small O_O)

Wow, the gang's all here, huh?

So, what do you think Fuzzy Lumpkins was before he got hit with the "black light"? An ordinary hillbilly, or some type of pink guinea pig? :)

[SuperSonicvs]

Well, it's the same word. "He/him" is more literal definition. It's just used to refer to a boyfriend the same as "anata" ("you") is used by a wife to address her husband. It's no different than in English saying "old lady" or "old man" to refer to a spouse, or "the woman" or... you get the idea.

So, it's not like there's any hidden suggestive meaning in calling Him "Kare" in Japanese. It's a literal translation.

I never suggested that there was. I simply brought the second meaning up to avoid confusion later on.

[PowerZord]

...And the original series' origin of having the girls being created by sugar, spice, and everything nice with a mysterious (and never explained) Chemical X is more believeable because...?

It looks more believable. Since "Sugar, spice, and everything nice" describe your usual girl. They are hyper as sugar, strong and bitter like "Spice" and they also have bigger feelings, so it falls under "Everything nice" he wanted to create the perfect girl, and Chemical X, just gave them the powers and created two more girls. I don't see the point, of debating his opinion about the origins with Chemical X.



t's the same speech impediment they gave Mojo in the Japanese version of the original show. And Mojo was always comic relief in the original. The only PPG villian who wasn't comic relief was Him. Maybe Sedusa.

He was a comical relief, who could actually do some damage. after all he created the Rowdy ruff boys, Knocked bubbles into an Identity crisis, Kidnapped the Mayor, and Smashed Professor Utonium. and the Ganggreen gang for doing all the Prank calls.



Considering they all stopped in the middle of battle to eat ice cream, it sounds about right.

That was really lame.



I loved that part. Especially when everybody in the town started to eat ice cream too. :D

Everyone has diferent tastes, so I respect this



o.O You say that like it's going to become his catchphrase.

Knowing most Anime, I think he's right



So? If it's supposed a literal re-creation of the original PPG, then why bother? If you're gonna do a re-imagining, then make your version stand out.

Stand out? The Animation looks like a mix of Tokyo pig and some early 90's U.S animation.



Somehow I doubt Wedding Peach was what the writers were aiming for, esp
ecially since most of the heads worked on Doremi...

I haven't seen or have no idea what's wedding peach. Doremi neither. for me it looks like Sailor Moon mixed with DBZ, Astroboy and Tokyo pig.

[mikestorm]

I almost didn't post my original post becuse I was just asking to be flamed, so that's my own fault, but let me elaborate on why I dislike the show so much.

With the original show, I genuinely liked the girls. They had a nice mix of positive attributes. Leadership qualities, a sense of justice, not hesitant to roll up their proverbial sleeves and get their nubs dirty, but you never forgot that they were girls. They used raw power to get the job done. They didn't need weapons. They also operated without the need for a love interest. No fawning over guys here. Many of the young female viewership considered them role models. At the time, many domestic action shows were a boys club. This show shattered the mold. These were not your average cartoon girls.

Their protectiveness of the city was evident. When a bad guy came to threaten it, they didn't screw around. There was a sense of urgency until they foe was vanquished. Of course, half the town typically went with it, but it's the price you pay. :)

The other characters of the show were also interesting, ecclectic, and each posessed a unique personality. The gang green gang, the amoeba boys, HIM, Fuzzy Lumpkins, The Mayor.

And the humor was simply brilliant. It was funny for both children and the parents of those children. Meet the Beat Alls? Enough said.

Lastly, the production values of the original were simply amazing at the time. A homage to other styles, but more a style all its own.

If the first episode is indicative of the series, PowerPuff Girls Z literally sucked the very soul out of the original version and turned it into a cookie cutter shoujo with cookie cutter characters. These ARE your average magical girl girls.

The new main characters are too self absorbed in how they look (Bubbles), too boy crazy (Blossom). They 'ham it up' all to much (this is what I mean by comic relief). The fact that they even gave them transformation sequences and skimpy outfits made me slap my forehead. Excellent role models.

The production values of the reimaging are well below that of the original. If you're going to do a reimaging, you should at least attempt to raise the bar.

And the very worst part of all: MoJo is now Snarf. SNARF!

[Duke]

It looks more believable. Since "Sugar, spice, and everything nice" describe your usual girl. They are hyper as sugar, strong and bitter like "Spice" and they also have bigger feelings, so it falls under "Everything nice" he wanted to create the perfect girl, and Chemical X, just gave them the powers and created two more girls. I don't see the point, of debating his opinion about the origins with Chemical X.
From his post, it seemed like he thought a rice cake falling into the vat of Chemical X was ridiculous, when the original origin was just as ridiculous. I doubt throwing in sugar, spice, and some heart stickers & bunnies into a pot and boiling it will give me a little girl after everything's all over with. Even the Rowdyruff Boys origin (snips, snails, and puppy dog tails thrown in a jail toilet) was ridiculous. That's the whole point of things. Hell, 90% of the original PPG episodes had plots that were ridiculous. That's why it was so fun.

[Sprocket]

I`m going to have to save this thread and look at it when the story picks up.

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!

...yeah, keep waiting.

[veemonjosh]

bunnies into a pot and boiling it

:eek:

The poor bunnies...:crying:

[Kida]

It looks more believable. Since "Sugar, spice, and everything nice" describe your usual girl. They are hyper as sugar, strong and bitter like "Spice" and they also have bigger feelings, so it falls under "Everything nice" he wanted to create the perfect girl, and Chemical X, just gave them the powers and created two more girls. I don't see the point, of debating his opinion about the origins with Chemical X.

Um, not to be rude, but you do realize that it's from the old children's rhyme, right? "Sugar, spice, and everything nice; that's what little girls are made of. Snips, snails, and puppy dog's tails; that's what little boys are made of," or something like that. o_o


They also operated without the need for a love interest. No fawning over guys here.

I don't think that would really be an issue anyway, since the girls were in kindergarten and stuff.. there was that one episode where Buttercup got a crush on one of the Gang Green Gang though. Eh...

[Rob_TF]

In case you guys haven't noticed, there were 5 white lights from the Chemical Z explosion, but we only saw 4 of them strike (on each of the girls and Peach). This means there's might be one other Powerpuff Girl... but the only other Powerpuff I can think of is Bunny, and she kind of blew up.

[Duke]

Watching the subbed version, I liked Part 2 a lot better now. The conversation between Blossom and Mojo was a lot funnier now that I know what's actually being said. And the series really, really makes me want to buy the soundtrack.

[Nobuyuki sama]

The poor bunnies...:crying:
With the sugar and spice added, they should really be quite tasty. :anime:

So it's not a total loss.

[PowerZord]

From his post, it seemed like he thought a rice cake falling into the vat of Chemical X was ridiculous, when the original origin was just as ridiculous. I doubt throwing in sugar, spice, and some heart stickers & bunnies into a pot and boiling it will give me a little girl after everything's all over with. Even the Rowdyruff Boys origin (snips, snails, and puppy dog tails thrown in a jail toilet) was ridiculous. That's the whole point of things. Hell, 90% of the original PPG episodes had plots that were ridiculous. That's why it was so fun.

Well it's is ridiculous, It din't make any sense at all, no connection. At least the Original made more sense. besides we weren't implied that he was all done, when he threw that into the bowl, he was still mixing it, before Mojo jumped on it, make him smash the Chemical X bottle, mutating the girls. The rowdy you know it makes sense, it's ingredientes are from everything Nasty, contrary to the Powerpuff girls, who were created with cute stuff. 90% had ridiculous? I seem to remenber really good plots, I admit there were some horrible plots, like the original pilot, and the first episode of the full tv show, and the Beat alls, but there were a lot of good ones. It was fun because it had action and comedy really mixed, plus great characthers.

I still fail to see what's fun about the girls eating ice cream in the middle of the battle, or Mojo taking the cookie out of the animal mouth.

[veemonjosh]

In case you guys haven't noticed, there were 5 white lights from the Chemical Z explosion, but we only saw 4 of them strike (on each of the girls and Peach). This means there's might be one other Powerpuff Girl... but the only other Powerpuff I can think of is Bunny, and she kind of blew up.

In the American continuity. So, she could end up being shown.

And she could blow up because of Kare, showing he really is pure evil like his American counterpart.

[ChibiGoku]

Toei did something really bizzare in episode 2 with the credits. For some reason, the opening's credits are all change around. And Cartoonetwork is no longer in katakana, it now has the logo we usually see on the bottom right corner of their network.

[mikestorm]

From his post, it seemed like he thought a rice cake falling into the vat of Chemical X was ridiculous, when the original origin was just as ridiculous. I doubt throwing in sugar, spice, and some heart stickers & bunnies into a pot and boiling it will give me a little girl after everything's all over with.
I wouldn't say the original origin is ridiculous. Professor Utonium was specifically trying to create girls, and he was using the old nursery rhyme as a guide. He added sugar, spice, and everything nice to create the perfect little girls. Given this is a cartoon, this strikes me as plausible. Chemical X didn't create the girls, it just gave them super powers.

In the new version Professor Utonium was "combining chemical X with various liquids in an attempt to change its molecular makeup". Ahh, the good old days when science served no point whatsoever. The vat sits open in the center of his lab.

After the sticky bun incident and the freak weather change, Ken wants to "use chemical Z immediately". The professor, not at all doubting Chemical Z's ability at fixing freak weather storms despite having invented it 20 seconds earlier, cautions against it only because he hasn't taken the time to test it. Ignoring his father's caution, Ken hooks the newly formed vat of chemical Z up to a gigantic gun that just happens to be there. As to the original purpose of the gun, one can only guess. It apparently was created to fix freak weather changes on the off chance they happen to occur, and conveniently runs on chemical Z on the off chance they happen to invent it. They fire the gun, and a legend is born.

Cartoon or not, that does border on nonsensical.

[ChibiGoku]

OoH!

http://www.sonicfighters.com/FightingMagic/Pictures/Sadusa.JPG

I wonder who that could be. :anime:

[OverMaster]

Sheesh. I must have missed the part where the original PPGs were JLU, or anything else that was supposed to make much sense.

I smell of some biases around, so I think there will be no way of convincing some naysayers this is supposed to work on a different approach and a different take for a different target public.

[Waylaid]

OoH!

http://www.sonicfighters.com/FightingMagic/Pictures/Sadusa.JPG

I wonder who that could be. :anime:


Looks rowdy to me. Is it P ?


Really, is that from episode 2?

[Undrave]

I wouldn't say the original origin is ridiculous. Professor Utonium was specifically trying to create girls, and he was using the old nursery rhyme as a guide. He added sugar, spice, and everything nice to create the perfect little girls. Given this is a cartoon, this strikes me as plausible. Chemical X didn't create the girls, it just gave them super powers.

In the new version Professor Utonium was "combining chemical X with various liquids in an attempt to change its molecular makeup". Ahh, the good old days when science served no point whatsoever. The vat sits open in the center of his lab.

After the sticky bun incident and the freak weather change, Ken wants to "use chemical Z immediately". The professor, not at all doubting Chemical Z's ability at fixing freak weather storms despite having invented it 20 seconds earlier, cautions against it only because he hasn't taken the time to test it. Ignoring his father's caution, Ken hooks the newly formed vat of chemical Z up to a gigantic gun that just happens to be there. As to the original purpose of the gun, one can only guess. It apparently was created to fix freak weather changes on the off chance they happen to occur, and conveniently runs on chemical Z on the off chance they happen to invent it. They fire the gun, and a legend is born.

Cartoon or not, that does border on nonsensical.

What's wrong with the girls gaining power from Chemical Z?

And maybe the gun worked on Chemical X before hand or could simply be used to spray in vapor form ANY liquid. Humidity is an important factor in weather paterns.

[Tea]

In case you guys haven't noticed, there were 5 white lights from the Chemical Z explosion, but we only saw 4 of them strike (on each of the girls and Peach). This means there's might be one other Powerpuff Girl... but the only other Powerpuff I can think of is Bunny, and she kind of blew up.
I'm putting my money on Bunny or Bullet (the super-powered squirrel). It's a mahou shoujo staple to add a new member after a few seasons. I'm sure if she did appear, she wouldn't be deformed and retarded like the original one, but she might either be a temporary member or go the "borderline evil" route. (which accidentally happened in the original anyway)

[rmarti3926]

Saw the first episode in YouTube.

I must admit, Blossom, Bubbles, and Buttercup takes a better chance when they take the Sam, Alex and Clover (from Totally Spies) meets Sailor Moon direction. They're cuter than their original counterparts and the show's sugary sweet. A refreshing change of pace with those testostorone-fueled anime show you see on Toonami and Adult Swim.

[Duke]

90% had ridiculous? I seem to remenber really good plots, I admit there were some horrible plots, like the original pilot, and the first episode of the full tv show, and the Beat alls, but there were a lot of good ones. It was fun because it had action and comedy really mixed, plus great characthers.
Umm, I never said being ridiculous was a bad thing. In fact, I specifically stated in my last post "That's why it's so fun."

A roach somehow being mutated, forming a cybernetic body of a bum, then using his fellow roaches to create a giant bug monster? Him trying to defeat the girls via tooth decay? A clown sapping all the color from the world and the only way to stop him is with a song? An island full of giant monsters whose long-lived dream is to defeat the Powerpuff Girls? The girls resting on a cloud shouting instructions to the idiots of Townsville on how to stop a giant monster? A giant robot Powerpuff with about 10 gazillion missiles? Mojo Jojo trapping the girls with flypaper? A giant cannon that turns people into dogs? Weird radioactive paste that turns a little kid into a giant paste monster? A hamster that turns into a vicous, mutated freak after being flushed down the toilet? Villians who explode when kissed?

All of that makes more sense than a rice cake dropping into a vat of weird chemicals, thus making it stronger? Powerpuff Girls is one of the most ridiculous cartoons ever. That's why it's so fun to watch.

[GuardianKid13]

I've seen the first episode. The show is very kiddy & "kawaii". If the show gets dubbed in english I don't think any scene (of the 1st episode)would get a severe edit.

[NinjaJack]

Umm, I never said being ridiculous was a bad thing. In fact, I specifically stated in my last post "That's why it's so fun."

A roach somehow being mutated, forming a cybernetic body of a bum, then using his fellow roaches to create a giant bug monster? Him trying to defeat the girls via tooth decay? A clown sapping all the color from the world and the only way to stop him is with a song? An island full of giant monsters whose long-lived dream is to defeat the Powerpuff Girls? The girls resting on a cloud shouting instructions to the idiots of Townsville on how to stop a giant monster? A giant robot Powerpuff with about 10 gazillion missiles? Mojo Jojo trapping the girls with flypaper? A giant cannon that turns people into dogs? Weird radioactive paste that turns a little kid into a giant paste monster? A hamster that turns into a vicous, mutated freak after being flushed down the toilet? Villians who explode when kissed?

All of that makes more sense than a rice cake dropping into a vat of weird chemicals, thus making it stronger? Powerpuff Girls is one of the most ridiculous cartoons ever. That's why it's so fun to watch.


Bow down to ta master!

[NinjaJack]

So two episodes in, technicly four. Anyone adjust to the new locales and language yet? I`m not sure if anyone else caught it, but the Mayor said SOMETHING to Ms. Bellum to cause her to shove him while they were trapped in the bubble.

Interesting thing about the Mayor, his original look gave me the impression that if they hadn`t changed him he`d look exactly like the dirty old man cliche over and over in anime. But personality wise, I think he just might be our lovable looser, but with a idle hand.

[PowerZord]

Umm, I never said being ridiculous was a bad thing. In fact, I specifically stated in my last post "That's why it's so fun."

A roach somehow being mutated, forming a cybernetic body of a bum, then using his fellow roaches to create a giant bug monster? Him trying to defeat the girls via tooth decay? A clown sapping all the color from the world and the only way to stop him is with a song? An island full of giant monsters whose long-lived dream is to defeat the Powerpuff Girls? The girls resting on a cloud shouting instructions to the idiots of Townsville on how to stop a giant monster? A giant robot Powerpuff with about 10 gazillion missiles? Mojo Jojo trapping the girls with flypaper? A giant cannon that turns people into dogs? Weird radioactive paste that turns a little kid into a giant paste monster? A hamster that turns into a vicous, mutated freak after being flushed down the toilet? Villians who explode when kissed?

All of that makes more sense than a rice cake dropping into a vat of weird chemicals, thus making it stronger? Powerpuff Girls is one of the most ridiculous cartoons ever. That's why it's so fun to watch.

Yeah it makes more sense, Most ridiculous than Z? Let's see.. kid bad rip off of Astroboy? Blosom and Mojo fighting over candy? Hell turning into dogs is better, than ramdom idiotices they did on the first episode. At least they weren't able to fight. The paste monster had a hidden msj, The giant robot, ridiculous? Tell me how is more ridiculous than they stopping for ice cream, and all of the sudden everyone else has one. or what the hell caused that iceberg to end up there? I can agree on the Tooth decay, and the clown.

Quoting from another site: "They turned the Archnemesis into Homer Simpson" just because it's japanese doesn't make it better. The new show has it's strong points, but it's much more Ridiculous and less fun than the original show. I yet fail to see the better in this version.

[NinjaJack]

Yeah it makes more sense, Most ridiculous than Z? Let's see.. kid bad rip off of Astroboy? Blosom and Mojo fighting over candy? Hell turning into dogs is better, than ramdom idiotices they did on the first episode. At least they weren't able to fight. The paste monster had a hidden msj, The giant robot, ridiculous? Tell me how is more ridiculous than they stopping for ice cream, and all of the sudden everyone else has one. or what the hell caused that iceberg to end up there? I can agree on the Tooth decay, and the clown.

Quoting from another site: "They turned the Archnemesis into Homer Simpson" just because it's japanese doesn't make it better. The new show has it's strong points, but it's much more Ridiculous and less fun than the original show. I yet fail to see the better in this version.

Homer Simpson? Just who was he before man? Hitler?

You take a show with three six year old girls switching bodies with a green faced talking monkey and wind up becoming a sumo wrestler beating the snot out of an old lady more sensible?

This show`s only problem is that it takes itself a lot MORE seriously as it goes along. You`re tripping over Professor Utonium looking like the most famous hero in anime history? You have a problem with homage.:confused:

[Duke]

OK, Mojo was an idiot in the original PPG too. Sure, he could invent giant robots, but he had very little common sense.

Pretty much the only person in the entire original PPG who wasn't an idiot was Sara Bellum. Ms. Keane had her moments and Utonium's good with chemicals, but they're still lacking a lot of common sense. Him might be as smart as Bellum too. And though the PPGs themselves were smarter than normal, they were still essentially toddlers. Everyone else in the show is an idiot, much like Dexter's Lab. That doesn't mean the original PPG sucked, but there's no arguing that PPG was, is, and always will be ridiculous. That's how it was meant to be.

And for the record, the original PPG's first two episodes sucked too.

I mean, what would be the point of even MAKING PPGZ if it was exactly like the original?

[Undrave]

OK, Mojo was an idiot in the original PPG too. Sure, he could invent giant robots, but he had very little common sense.

Pretty much the only person in the entire original PPG who wasn't an idiot was Sara Bellum. Ms. Keane had her moments and Utonium's good with chemicals, but they're still lacking a lot of common sense. Him might be as smart as Bellum too. And though the PPGs themselves were smarter than normal, they were still essentially toddlers. Everyone else in the show is an idiot, much like Dexter's Lab. That doesn't mean the original PPG sucked, but there's no arguing that PPG was, is, and always will be ridiculous. That's how it was meant to be.

And for the record, the original PPG's first two episodes sucked too.

I mean, what would be the point of even MAKING PPGZ if it was exactly like the original?

Totally agree with you there Duke!

Plus let's not forget that one of the most DIFFICULT thing to get across a culture is humor. Japanese really dig 'out of left field' gags, when things happen out of nowhere and everything just comes to a screeching halt. It's their style. Not everyone can enjoy the humor style found in Bobobo for exemple, I do, but many don't.

PPGZ appeals to the Japanese people sensibilities more than the original PPG, and since they're the ones making it there's no problem there. It's just a different kind of humor.

[Tak Mazé]

It's as though they were trying to be cliché o_o. Well I can safely say that I'm appauled with what I see so far. Seriously, if they replaced the main characters with unfamiliar ones, people would say this was a pretty lame show. It's going to rely on the popularity of the originals I can see it >.<.

[NinjaJack]

It's as though they were trying to be cliché o_o. Well I can safely say that I'm appauled with what I see so far. Seriously, if they replaced the main characters with unfamiliar ones, people would say this was a pretty lame show. It's going to rely on the popularity of the originals I can see it >.<.


To each his own

[Undrave]

Japanese love their clichés :p clichés sell, what can ya do about it?

[OverMaster]

Yeah it makes more sense, Most ridiculous than Z? Let's see.. kid bad rip off of Astroboy? Blosom and Mojo fighting over candy? Hell turning into dogs is better, than ramdom idiotices they did on the first episode. At least they weren't able to fight. The paste monster had a hidden msj, The giant robot, ridiculous? Tell me how is more ridiculous than they stopping for ice cream, and all of the sudden everyone else has one. or what the hell caused that iceberg to end up there? I can agree on the Tooth decay, and the clown.

Quoting from another site: "They turned the Archnemesis into Homer Simpson" just because it's japanese doesn't make it better. The new show has it's strong points, but it's much more Ridiculous and less fun than the original show. I yet fail to see the better in this version.

AstroBoy ripoff? I must have missed the part where the Girls are robots created by another scientist, then adopted by Utonium, who makes a robot sister for them.

And I find both shows' sillier points to be equally ridiculous. Sorry, but methinks you are letting subjectiveness to cloud your objective judgement.

[Rob_TF]

You know, I can get why people can bash the first episode, as I didn't find that to be good either, but the second episode was really funny, IMO. I think we should wait a little bit until we've settled in. And PPGZ is in no way supposed to be the same as the original PPG, because that would defeat the very purpose of making it. It's merely a re-envisioning, so it's supposed to different in order to give a different experience. Ofcourse anyone who goes in expecting it to be the same would be disappointed.

[Keeper]

Indeed, the first episode by the very fact that it was the first episode had to be limited. In a somewhat typical storytelling fashion, it needed to start out with action right away to grab the viewer. No time for character development. Then it naturally went to the creation story. No time for character development there either.

In episode 2, we begin to have some character dynamic. It's interesting so far how Momoko doesn't seem particularly fond of the others (e.g., being downright offended that a ditz like Miyako could be the same as she is, and the suggestion made in response to Kaoru in the trailer for episode 3).

[ChibiGoku]

Added episode 6 and 7's titles.

[OverMaster]

The title for Episode 4, "I'm going to become Ken's mother!", makes me think Sedusa will make her debut there. Thoughts on it?

[stephane dumas]

The title for Episode 4, "I'm going to become Ken's mother!", makes me think Sedusa will make her debut there. Thoughts on it?

It could be possible then Sedusa might do her first cameo appeance in this episode, then I wonder if there will be a remake of Ms Bellum and Sedusa fight in the episode "Something's a Ms."? ;)

[Keeper]

Where are these titles viewable (in Japanese is fine)?

I noticed in looking over the bio for Peach that it says something about it being in lieu of Ken's mother, so that title could refer to Peach somehow, but yeah, Sedusa trying to date Professor Utonium or something seems more likely.

Speaking of Miss Bellum, they haven't been very creative yet in hiding her face. It's always that clipboard.

[Duke]

Where are these titles viewable (in Japanese is fine)?
I believe Toei's website.


Speaking of Miss Bellum, they haven't been very creative yet in hiding her face. It's always that clipboard.
Well, it's a bit harder to hide her face with the TV screen since everyone's not a midget in this show.

[tucsoncoyote]

Actually I can see that this could be a major CN hit in the states if they did bring this over, but then it's odd about how the girls came to be. Of course there is one note I would like to add. Professor Utoniums Dog.. I finally figured out which character that is..(Remember 'The Talking Dog) in the original PPG Series? Yep there's the equivalent from the original Series).

From the Screenshots, I can say that if they use the 'Magic Girl' (A la Do Re Mi, or Salior Moon) then this might work, (After all it's possible that the girls accquiring their powers a different way then the Sugar/Spice/ Everything Nice mixed in with "Chemical X" seems more plausible.

So I say if They do release this in the states, it could be a hit, But I noted in the entire thread that issue about squeaking the panty and upskirt shots by the censors..(I say don't worry, unless the series gets too outta hand.) but other then that I say PPG-Z has a shot here in the states.. if Fans will watch it...

:coyote:

[Tea]

My review for episode two!

Much better than the first one. Action has improved to a tolerable level. And Bubbles has awesome theme music. If that stuff is playing in her head all day long, then it's no wonder she's so mellow and bubbly.

I like Blossom's newfound candy addiction because I can relate. Mmm, chocolate. Then again, Bubbles taking candy from strange monkeymen also bothered me.

Blossom and Bubble's reasons for wanting to stay heroines were right-on in character (Bloss wanted to fight for justice, and Bubbles just liked the outfit). All of the girl's personalities played well off each other. ("Since I'm red, I get to be leader, right?") And I liked Buttercup's quip to Mojo.

Mojo has so far not improved. I have no idea what he thought he was going to accomplish throwing water at Bubbles. So far, he doesn't have a deep-seated agenda against the PPGz but I guess he'll get there eventually.

In short, it was cute and funny but still has areas to improve in. Looking forward to the next one.

[Keeper]

After all it's possible that the girls accquiring their powers a different way then the Sugar/Spice/ Everything Nice mixed in with "Chemical X" seems more plausible.

Yes, they aquire the powers in a very different way. The very fact that they're normal girls rather than creations is big. And of course, the fact that it's not Chemical X, but Chemical Z.


So I say if They do release this in the states, it could be a hit, But I noted in the entire thread that issue about squeaking the panty and upskirt shots by the censors...

There are no such shots. Showing Momoko's navel under her short shirt is as "risque" as they get (if such a shot even could be considered risque) -- apart from the bit where she essentially accuses the Professor of being a pedophile (without actually stating the word -- she's strapped down and wondering why she's been kidnaped, then surmises, "Oh, I get it: I'm a cute girl; you want to do bad things to me!").

[OverMaster]

Yes, they aquire the powers in a very different way. The very fact that they're normal girls rather than creations is big. And of course, the fact that it's not Chemical X, but Chemical Z.


There are no such shots. Showing Momoko's navel under her short shirt is as "risque" as they get (if such a shot even could be considered risque) -- apart from the bit where she essentially accuses the Professor of being a pedophile (without actually stating the word -- she's strapped down and wondering why she's been kidnaped, then surmises, "Oh, I get it: I'm a cute girl; you want to do bad things to me!").

To be honest, the change of the Chemical's name barely matters at all.

And I so can see that dialogue line changed when the show comes to America. Since CN has a hand on the content, my guess is they are allowing stuff that can be changed in the dub without having to cut images (the transformation sequences, I figure, should have a pass since no nudity is ever shown).

I really hope the aspect of Ken having a crush on the girls is let on at America. I'm really curious to see how will they play with that at Japan.

[Aldrius]

Oy. Dubbing this is going to be weird...

While the look of the show bothers me... the other stuff isn't TOO bad... ehh... I have hopes they'll bring more of the parody aspects of the original into it. (Parodying stuff like Astro Boy, and Gundam as opposed to Superman and Batman... though PPG did already do some anime parodies... DYNAMO anyone?)



I'm putting my money on Bunny or Bullet (the super-powered squirrel). It's a mahou shoujo staple to add a new member after a few seasons. I'm sure if she did appear, she wouldn't be deformed and retarded like the original one, but she might either be a temporary member or go the "borderline evil" route. (which accidentally happened in the original anyway)


But if she's not retarded, then the whole 'Bizzaro' element is lost. D=

Oy, I hope none of HIM's menace is lost... that'd suck if he did.

[NinjaJack]

You think they`d scoff the chance to have a small innocent looking creep transform into a towering monster? Heck no!

[Keeper]

I really hope the aspect of Ken having a crush on the girls is let on at America. I'm really curious to see how will they play with that at Japan.

I don't think it'll be as much of a point as I suspected at first, now that I see that Ken is only 8 years old while the girls are 13.

[Duke]

Finally able to view Episode 2:

- Everything from Mojo meeting up with Bubbles until the mid-way point is gold. I especially love all the 4th wall-breaking going on (despite the lack of narrator).

- Bubbles: I don't think you should tease Monkey-san.
Mojo: Yea! What a good thing to say!
Blossom: He's an evil monkey! No! An evil monster!
Bubbles: Really!?
Mojo: Don't be fooled! I'm not a monster! I'm a good monkey! Mojo!
Bubbles: That is what he says.
Blossom: Listen. Look more carefully. Coming out of his body is a black aura. That's the proof of evil!
Bubbles: Oh...that's true.
Blossom: And....Normal monkeys can't talk!!
Bubbles: :eek:
Mojo: :eek:

I loved that whole scene. My favorite scene so far. XD

- I also liked the mid-way bumper:

Buttercup: *sneezes* Ah! It's this skirt! I wonder if I caught a cold...
*Background changes to green stars*
Blossom: Next is the secret of the transformation! Don't miss it!
Bubbles: And I learn the correct way of using my weapon.
*Buttercup slams down her hammer*
Buttercup: I don't appear yet!?

- Blossom's obsession with snacks and candy is reaching new levels.

- Well, I can pretty much guarentee that "Bubbles Champaigne!" won't be crossing the ocean...

[Vallen Valiant]

- Well, I can pretty much guarantee that "Bubbles Champagne!" won't be crossing the ocean...
Well... There are non-alcoholic versions, after all.

Then again, better not. The French would go ballistic if they found out their precious drink-trademark is being miss-used on a girl who wasn't even born in the province of Champagne.:sweat:

...And since when do underage kids possess enough money to drink expensive French wine, anyway?
I can see the headlines now... "Japanese cartoons caused a dramatic increase in sales of bubbling French wine to underaged children."

...AS IF!!!:p

[NinjaJack]

Wow guys! I know alot of people just see this new PPG as an alien product but whenever I see things like a very short AMV featuring the ORIGINAL PPG ending theme...it`s not coming over here fast enough
Powerpuff Save The Day (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NXX5o1i1mmg&search=powerpuff%20girls%20z)

[NinjaJack]

Well... There are non-alcoholic versions, after all.

Then again, better not. The French would go ballistic if they found out their precious drink-trademark is being miss-used on a girl who wasn't even born in the province of Champagne.:sweat:

...And since when do underage kids possess enough money to drink expensive French wine, anyway?
I can see the headlines now... "Japanese cartoons caused a dramatic increase in sales of bubbling French wine to underaged children."

...AS IF!!!:p

Actually it wouldn`t be THAT strange. French kids start drinking wine way before they are 21.

[Vallen Valiant]

Actually it wouldn`t be THAT strange. French kids start drinking wine way before they are 21.
I am not talking about Europe; obviously it would be ridiculously easy for kids to get their hands on wine if the local industry is producing them by the truckload.

[Karl Olson]

I am not talking about Europe; obviously it would be ridiculously easy for kids to get their hands on wine if the local industry is producing them by the truckload.

Umm... more like it's a cultural thing in Europe (after all, the US produces plenty of liquor and wine - only reason we probably don't have even more is because prohibition took a lot of companies out and drove a lot of production north and south. Still, the fact that every almost every grocery store has whole section for the beer and wine, and it some states, it's not like it's that hard to come by here.)

Anyway, more on topic I finally watched PPGZ 1. To me, it seems they've gone out of their way to keep as many element and cues from the original series as they could while infusing it with the stock mahou shoujo elements. It also seems they've gone out of there way to keep the lolicon-aspects to a minumum though nothing will satisfy the haters on this one I think.

[GuardianKid13]

Wow guys! I know alot of people just see this new PPG as an alien product but whenever I see things like a very short AMV featuring the ORIGINAL PPG ending theme...it`s not coming over here fast enough
Powerpuff Save The Day (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NXX5o1i1mmg&search=powerpuff%20girls%20z)The only bad thing about that video was that it used too much scenes from episode 1, the person should of waited until more episodes have been shown.

[NinjaJack]

The only bad thing about that video was that it used too much scenes from episode 1, the person should of waited until more episodes have been shown.
Very true, the person really has good timing in that video but the footage of the one episode weighs it down a bit.



Umm... more like it's a cultural thing in Europe (after all, the US produces plenty of liquor and wine - only reason we probably don't have even more is because prohibition took a lot of companies out and drove a lot of production north and south. Still, the fact that every almost every grocery store has whole section for the beer and wine, and it some states, it's not like it's that hard to come by here.)

Anyway, more on topic I finally watched PPGZ 1. To me, it seems they've gone out of their way to keep as many element and cues from the original series as they could while infusing it with the stock mahou shoujo elements. It also seems they've gone out of there way to keep the lolicon-aspects to a minumum though nothing will satisfy the haters on this one I think.

Dang, I`m saving this post to a .doc. Thats one the brightest things I`ve read since PPGZ started.

[ChibiGoku]

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[veemonjosh]

I take it that's Sedusa, right?

[Gokou Ruri]

I take it that's Sedusa, right? Looks more like Miss Keane.

[veemonjosh]

Looks more like Miss Keane.

I see it now...

It just reminded me of Sedusa's civilian disguise for some reason.

[Rob_TF]

It just reminded me of Sedusa's civilian disguise for some reason.

Sedusa has green eyes and her civilian disguise, Ima Goodlady, has white hair.

[NinjaJack]

So IS that Ms.Keen?

[Keeper]

Yes.

(slight spoiler for episode 3)

Just when Kaoru is relieved to see that the other girls are in different classes, the school announces a reorganization, and sure enough, all three girls end up with Miss Keane as their new homeroom teacher. Kaoru, who can't really stand the giggly pair of Momoko and Miyako, wonders how it could have happened, and we're shown a scene of Ms Bellum in the Mayor's office phoning the school's headmaster...

[NinjaJack]

Gosh thats nice. I sure hope they bring in some kind of Major Glory counterpart.

[Undrave]

Gosh thats nice. I sure hope they bring in some kind of Major Glory counterpart.

Huh...wasn't Major Glory on Dexter's Lab more than PPG??

Off course I'm no expert on all those shows...

Anyway... Miss Keane looks cute in that style ^_^

[Duke]

Huh...wasn't Major Glory on Dexter's Lab more than PPG??

Off course I'm no expert on all those shows...
IIRC, Major Glory only appeared once in PPG, in the episode where the girls tried to join whatever their version of the Justice League was called. It also featured MG's newest design, with his torso blue instead of white.

[NinjaJack]

IIRC, Major Glory only appeared once in PPG, in the episode where the girls tried to join whatever their version of the Justice League was called. It also featured MG's newest design, with his torso blue instead of white.

I just get a kick out of seeing old characters reborn like this. I wonder if Mayor is still married to his clone of a wife.

[Keeper]

That reminds me. I want to translate the character bios. For the Mayor, I know it says that he's 58 years old and a scatterbrain, but that's all I've looked at -- the first few words in the bio.

[NinjaJack]

I wonder if the girls get power upgrades? This is a show with Henshin in it, that means silly wonderful things like CrossFusion, Star Makeup and all that power up jazz so many(except me) hate.:sweat:

[Ultra8]

I wonder if the girls get power upgrades? This is a show with Henshin in it, that means silly wonderful things like CrossFusion, Star Makeup and all that power up jazz so many(except me) hate.:sweat:

I'm pretty sure it's a given. In the old show the girls slowly got more powers, it should be interesting what they'll get in this ver.:D

[Undrave]

Power ups are a STAPLE of henshin hero series, if you hate that then the style might not be for you.

[NinjaJack]

Power ups are a STAPLE of henshin hero series, if you hate that then the style might not be for you.
Oh I said except me, I`m one of the growing toku nerds that LOVE it

[Undrave]

Oh I said except me, I`m one of the growing toku nerds that LOVE it

Oops, sorry I misread.

[NinjaJack]

Heck, I`m still hoping that the RRBZ have a sports motif with Sentai visors.


Brick-Thunder Soccerball!

Butch-Super Hockeystick!

Boomer-Flaming Basketball!

[Keeper]

It seems a lot of people are really curious about the RRB in PPGZ, but according to the titles for the first eight episodes, their first appearance doesn't seem to be coming for a while yet, unless they're part of the vaguely named "Observation Tower Crash" or "Say what? Momoko's love" episodes.

[NinjaJack]

It seems a lot of people are really curious about the RRB in PPGZ, but according to the titles for the first eight episodes, their first appearance doesn't seem to be coming for a while yet, unless they're part of the vaguely named "Observation Tower Crash" or "Say what? Momoko's love" episodes.



That means this show is more about henshin then I had originally thought. The negative syndicate always show up at the end of the first story arc or at the start of the second one.


Where can I find the ep titles anyway?



And I must say I REALLY enjoyed the latest episode! Like a kid in a candy store with ha blank check.

The episode deals with Kaoru not wanting to join the team because she can`t stand being around loud obnoxious people, and she hates wearing a skirt too. Sounds like good ole Buttercup alright. After three episodes I really think the production team is holding back what their capable of in order to save the good stuff for the bigger eps. Just look at what they did to Mojo`s crane, WITHOUT WEAPONS.

Seriously, these girls can fight with or without their weapons. It`s just the weapons are more effect.

[Undrave]

Sport motif would be cool, altough I doubt it would be hockey... I'd see Soccer, Baseball and...hmm... I guess basketball works... or maybe tennis to diversify the 'weapons'?

One of the most common reaction I saw on other message board basically goes like this:


"WHY MINI-SKIRTS?! WHY!!! DAMN YOU JAPANESE PERVS!"

Or some such.

I don't get it...didn't the girl basically wear skirts in the original?? Sure it was clear because of the character design but they were pretty much wearing skirts...so what's the beef?

Some people...

[Duke]

I don't get it...didn't the girl basically wear skirts in the original?? Sure it was clear because of the character design but they were pretty much wearing skirts...so what's the beef?

Some people...
Not only that, but they were wearing stockings and high-class high heel shoes (except without the high heel) in the original. Only the fact was disguised since the PPGs were basically tubes with giant globes on top.

[Keeper]

Yes, Kaoru's bio states that she prefers to do things on her own, so in that sense she couldn't stand that whole group, but the most important fact is simply that she likes to pretend that she's a boy. She the middle child, with two brothers. (Her bio even says, literally, that she won't confront her delusion about being a boy!)

There's a telling moment where Momoko says, "But you ARE a girl..." and soon thereafter offers her some gummy beans. Kaoru pauses, then takes some, and enjoys it. To Americans, that won't have as much of an impact as to the Japanese, where the social mores suggest that boys don't like sweets. Kaoru was, then, betraying her image and, by that action, admitting that yes, she is a girl at the end of the day.

The episode titles I found on the web page run by Sukaponta (the biggest PPG otaku in Japan). Where he got them, I don't know; none of the official web sites lists anything beyond the following week's episode titles, which are in the trailers anyway, but Sukaponta not only has the titles for the first eight episodes, but writer and director credits for them. As a well-known mega-fan of certain American cartoons myself, I certainly can understand that he might have his inside sources.

[ChibiGoku]

The episode titles I found on the web page run by Sukaponta (the biggest PPG otaku in Japan). Where he got them, I don't know; none of the official web sites lists anything beyond the following week's episode titles, which are in the trailers anyway, but Sukaponta not only has the titles for the first eight episodes, but writer and director credits for them. As a well-known mega-fan of certain American cartoons myself, I certainly can understand that he might have his inside sources.

We all do. I even have my own sources at times for different anime titles. Sometimes they're publically released, sometimes they're taken from... Other sources. (Episode scripts, people who did voice acting from the show, etc.)

[Keeper]

Same here... just not for anime!

[Bunai]

*yawns*
this series bores me. what exactly is the point of the show?
just the girls being cute and caught up in their own personalities?
villians with no direction...?:shrug:

[Duke]

*yawns*
this series bores me. what exactly is the point of the show?
just the girls being cute and caught up in their own personalities?
villians with no direction...?:shrug:
The original show didn't have much of a point either. Both shows are basically "Let's see how much fun we can have with this concept" shows. Hell, I think the only Cartoon Network original back when PPG was made that had an actual point to it was Johnny Bravo. And even then, you're stretching things.

[NinjaJack]

*yawns*
this series bores me. what exactly is the point of the show?
just the girls being cute and caught up in their own personalities?
villians with no direction...?:shrug:

Well goodbye then:sweat: I guess we`ll see you when the story really starts to pick up. This week we learn about Mrs.Utonium`s absence.

[Keeper]

...or is that Mrs Kitazawa, given that that is Ken's surname?

[NinjaJack]

...or is that Mrs Kitazawa, given that that is Ken's surname?

Yes, but isn`t Kitazawa "Utonium" in Japanese?

[Keeper]

Well, "yuutoniamu"...

But you have led me to an interesting discovery. The first kanji in 北沢 (Kitazawa), which literally represents "north", is used in Japanese dictionaries to indicate that the word is an element. So, there is a pun involved here, it would seem.

[Undrave]

Well, "yuutoniamu"...

But you have led me to an interesting discovery. The first kanji in 北沢 (Kitazawa), which literally represents "north", is used in Japanese dictionaries to indicate that the word is an element. So, there is a pun involved here, it would seem.

hehe that's rather clever ^^

[NinjaJack]

I`m hope this show can pull off a decent story with this new ep. This is a chance to see if this show will handle drama. I`m not expecting anything amazingly beautiful or sad but I hope to see their best foot put forward.

I hope we get a good chunk of the other villians, man I`d love to see the Gang Green Gang right about now.

[Keeper]

First new villain mentioned in titles is Fuzzy Lumpkins, followed by Princess, in the same episode (episode 6, was it?). The Amoeba Boys enter in episode 8.

More on "Kitazawa": Actually the first kanji of his name doesn't appear on the classification of elements in the dictionary, but a very similar-looking one does -- the first kanji of the word for "chemistry"/"chemical". And of course, the second half of his name starts with Z... so... you've got "Chemical Z" in his name sorta!

[Undrave]

I was thinking... the Rowdy Ruff Boys will probably be normal kids themselves...so will they have been created by the black lights or will Mojo have a hand in their creation in this version too?

And if they are normal kids in the begining then there is a big probability that the girls will try to convert them to the side of good... could be interesting dynamic.

[*TwilightStar*]

It's amazing, I went to other forums, and everyone is anticipating the RRB to make their appearance already, while we are only up to Ep. 4. It's like a craze. How popular are they? (In Japan too)

The RowdyRuff Boys Z (:p), I think, will get hit by the black light (is the most probable, since they are the male doppelgangers), instead of Mojo having a part in it. After all, he did have an importance for the creation of the girls in the original, but in PPGZ that's changed.

But the RRBZ, in the opening, are wearing the same style of clothes, only with their respective colors. So they might know each other already, or might be in a group. I'm wondering a lot about the guys, and how the anime is going to perceive them. Whether they'll have weapons, transformations (they will probably put some techno/rock gangsta music ala Kaoru), are they normal at first, their Japanese names, etc. Either way, I want them to appear when the girls are a bit stronger, that way will get a satisfied battle.

If they are normal (maybe little pranksters and immoral boys), and get truly evil once they're hit by the black light, there's a chance of them being good (or not), and probably make it a headway to some...type of...romance, or leeway in changing sides. It can be done, as in the original, we have all seen, the idea isn't that farfetched, romance, I mean. And it is mahou shoujo. :shrug: Then, there is the whole fact that they aren't 5 years old, and won't behave like little boys would anymore, disabling the weaknesses the girls exposed to defeat them. And Mojo and Him are possibly out as their "dad", telling them what to do. Where would the RRBZ derived their hatred for the girls from? By just the black light? Because of the reason they are good and evil, and thus automatically enemies? (Hey, happened with Mojo and Momoko)

By the way, does anyone know how far are the ratings? Are they good or bad? I'm curious. I mean, for 7AM on a Saturday......

[veemonjosh]

And if they are normal kids in the begining then there is a big probability that the girls will try to convert them to the side of good... could be interesting dynamic.

Well, looking back on other shows of this style, you KNOW they're going to do that. :p

[Undrave]

It's amazing, I went to other forums, and everyone is anticipating the RRB to make their appearance already, while we are only up to Ep. 4. It's like a craze. How popular are they? (In Japan too)

The RowdyRuff Boys Z (:p), I think, will get hit by the black light (is the most probable, since they are the male doppelgangers), instead of Mojo having a part in it. After all, he did have an importance for the creation of the girls in the original, but in PPGZ that's changed.

But the RRBZ, in the opening, are wearing the same style of clothes, only with their respective colors. So they might know each other already, or might be in a group. I'm wondering a lot about the guys, and how the anime is going to perceive them. Whether they'll have weapons, transformations (they will probably put some techno/rock gangsta music ala Kaoru), are they normal at first, their Japanese names, etc. Either way, I want them to appear when the girls are a bit stronger, that way will get a satisfied battle.

If they are normal (maybe little pranksters and immoral boys), and get truly evil once they're hit by the black light, there's a chance of them being good (or not), and probably make it a headway to some...type of...romance, or leeway in changing sides. It can be done, as in the original, we have all seen, the idea isn't that farfetched, romance, I mean. And it is mahou shoujo. :shrug: Then, there is the whole fact that they aren't 5 years old, and won't behave like little boys would anymore, disabling the weaknesses the girls exposed to defeat them. And Mojo and Him are possibly out as their "dad", telling them what to do. Where would the RRBZ derived their hatred for the girls from? By just the black light? Because of the reason they are good and evil, and thus automatically enemies? (Hey, happened with Mojo and Momoko)

By the way, does anyone know how far are the ratings? Are they good or bad? I'm curious. I mean, for 7AM on a Saturday......

I'm thinking the boys will probably start using their powers for their own selfish purpose and thus end up meeting the girls like normal villains do and they will probably develop a rivalry (leading to romantic rivalry hehehe). I'm thinking the first battle will probably end up in a draw.

I guess we're all curious about the other villains.

I wonder if Princess will be given a giant mecha XD and if she's just be a spoiled brat or if she'll be hit by Black Light and develop some kind of power.

[veemonjosh]

I'm thinking Princess is a spoiled brat who wanted to get hit by the black light (and thus get superpowers), but her cat (the one that hypnotized the city in the original series) got hit by the light instead. So, now she's trying to start some plan to get Chemical Z.

[Undrave]

I'm thinking Princess is a spoiled brat who wanted to get hit by the black light (and thus get superpowers), but her cat (the one that hypnotized the city in the original series) got hit by the light instead. So, now she's trying to start some plan to get Chemical Z.

Or maybe she finds out about the girls and Chemical Z and then wants to get it to get super power of her own.

[Vallen Valiant]

Or maybe she finds out about the girls and Chemical Z and then wants to get it to get super power of her own.
Or she could just be buying hightech supervillian equipment off ebay with her excessive money.:p

[veemonjosh]

Or maybe she finds out about the girls and Chemical Z and then wants to get it to get super power of her own.

True, that would be a lot closer to the original (actually, that basically was the original's version of Princess' leap to villany).

[Undrave]

Or she could just be buying hightech supervillian equipment off ebay with her excessive money.:p

She could also use that gadgetry to get the Chemical Z. Afterall Chemical Z is like the rarest chemical in the world if it was created by Utonium, and a spoiled brat like her would probably want it just for that reason, the super powers being a great bonus XD

[Keeper]

Oh hang on... the first kanji in "Kitazawa" is not QUITE the first kanji in "chemical". They look quite similar; I didn't notice at first. It's 北 versus 化. Still, it's possible someone thought of it so convoluted...

[Rob_TF]

Here are some tenative titles for upcoming episodes.

Episode 9 (August 19) - "Alluring Woman! Sedusa"
Episode 10 A (August 26) - "Coach Kaoru's Intensive Soccer Training"
Episode 10 B (August 26) - "Loving Fuzzy"

[Keeper]

Those are actually episodes 8 and 9. Sukaponta made a little boo boo, if you look closer.

Hmm yeah, I don't know if that's "Loving Fuzzy" or "Fuzzy in Love". Koisuru Fuzzy is pretty vague. Given that Koisuru is before the name, I think of it as an adjectivified (!) verb descriptive of Fuzzy, rather than a verb done to him, thus my gut feeling is "Fuzzy in Love".

I like the tongue-twister of "Coach Kaoru's Crash-Course Soccer", myself... heheh. But yeah, it's probably better rendered as "Intensive Training"...

[NinjaJack]

Here are some tenative titles for upcoming episodes.

Episode 9 (August 19) - "Alluring Woman! Sedusa"


And let the editing begin

[NinjaJack]

You know Seduca was once in charge of the RRB before, maybe this will transfer here?

[Bunai]

The original show didn't have much of a point either. Both shows are basically "Let's see how much fun we can have with this concept" shows. Hell, I think the only Cartoon Network original back when PPG was made that had an actual point to it was Johnny Bravo. And even then, you're stretching things.the point from PPG i got was the girls wanted to protect. with PPGZ i'm getting nothing really.

oyi...i'll try to hold out.:sad:

[Duke]

the point from PPG i got was the girls wanted to protect. with PPGZ i'm getting nothing really.

oyi...i'll try to hold out.:sad:
Well, in the original we not only didn't get the origin story first, but all the girls had basically the same drive. Not so in PPG. Blossom wants to be a superhero, Bubbles does it because it's fun, and Buttercup does it because of peer pressure. :P

Plus, you have to take into account that the original PPG started out with their powers as soon as they were born, thus they were always standing out (hence why all three have pretty big egos). In PPGZ, all the girls grew up normal and only recently have gotten into the spotlight.