Routh's Superman and Bale's Batman in a team up movie (may be SPOILERS) [Archive]

JKDilla

06-28-2006, 06:43 AM

Ok, there was that thread awhile back theorizing on a Justice League movie. I realize Superman Returns just came out. But, how do you visualize the two in a movie together seeing as how they'd obviously be 2 of the primiaries. Off the bat I definitly see Routh being able to play yin to Bale's yang. Boy what 2 completely different performances. Bale was dark and intense, Routh was good enough to give us a positive figure of inspiration and goodness. Do you think they would clash or mesh? I'm not sure what I think yet. I definitely see some conflict when you take Bale's portrayal of Bats and put him in a scene with Routh's portrayal of Supes. In real life it also seems like Bale and Routh are also 2 different personalities. I think it could carry over onto film. I love how Bale said "sorry Superman, but Batman is the badass" at the MTV Movie awards and Routh just shrugged his shoulders and laughed it off. Maybe there's something there to perhaps do a World's Finest team-up or maybe a Trinity movie with whomever nails Wonder Woman. I also know this: while the idea of Routh and Bale sharing screentime as heros intrigues me, I am also NOT interested in seeing Routh's Kent and Bale's Wayne compete for Bosworth's Lois Lane.

Ben

06-28-2006, 07:43 AM

I actually think this would work, and could be pretty cool, but only if the writers and directors get along. Singer's Metropolis and Nolan's Gotham, though very different places, could conceivably exist in the same world. Clashing egos on the creative teams are a very real possibility, however.

BeyondGotham

06-28-2006, 08:47 AM

I made this last year.. I think they look great together and the movie, if done right, could work very well..

http://www.batmanytb.com/images/photoalbum/album_42/photo_1691_t1.jpg

http://www.batmanytb.com/photogallery.php?photo_id=1691

dc_gothamite

06-28-2006, 12:21 PM

nicely done, BeyondGotham... reminds me of this I made a while back:

http://img443.imageshack.us/img443/3273/worldsfinestcomics2film0wq.jpg

After seeing Superman Returns, it really doesn't look like Superman of that film can blend with the Batman of Batman Begins... maybe that could be a reason why it could work, if done right as BeyondGotham put it.

Batman and Superman are two characters that aren't designed to go together... if the powers-that-be use the DCAU's "World's Finest"-three-parter as a basis, maybe it could work... after all, it's not like characters' respective animated series were complementary either.

sdp

06-28-2006, 12:43 PM

I wouldn't like it because Nolah's Batman is a fresh start and is telling the story of a more 'beleivable' hero, a Superman teamup would ruin that, right now IMO it is going for the 'realism' BTAS had, i can't see superman teaming up in the original BTAS...

this could have worked before BBegins, but not until all the new batman movies are done would I like this.

ZorBrak

06-28-2006, 01:19 PM

The Donner Superman, which is now painfully obviously what Routh is supposed to be, MUST NEVER blend with the Nolan Batman... it will be a disaster.

.Automatisch

06-28-2006, 02:34 PM

The Donner Superman, which is now painfully obviously what Routh is supposed to be, MUST NEVER blend with the Nolan Batman... it will be a disaster.

Yes. I still wish that they hadn't done that, since new continuity would have definitely helped...

DR.MID-NITE

06-28-2006, 02:56 PM

I think it can be done....Like any other story or movie. It comes down to execution. If you have the right people writing, directing and starring in it.

And for all those comparing the differences in the Gotham & Metropolis. Thats how they are supposed to be. Complete opposites.

This was done by someone on the bluetights site. It was when Bale & Routh met at the MTV movie awards...with a bit of editing. ;)

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v169/hitokirivader/Worlds_Finest2.jpg

CyborgRex

06-28-2006, 03:46 PM

That looks good. I doubt that the movie will happen any time soon. But someday it might happen. It could either be really great or a big disapointment that will kill both movie franchises for another eight or nineteen years. For now I leave you with this pic I found.

http://www.batmanytb.com/movies/rumor/symbols.jpg

FroBro

06-28-2006, 03:58 PM

holy crap this is what a batman vs superman movie should be
http://youtube.com/watch?v=rAQ3DvUTErE&search=batman%20vs%20superman

BeyondGotham

06-28-2006, 04:04 PM

Yep.. I made that one too.. though thats not really that hard..LOL...

I agree that it's all in the story and who makes it. Both movies are made to look and feel "REAL" Did you see how many night scenes there were in Returns? Plus a darker suit than before, that, and the fact that they look good together..LOL.

I personally think it'll take a third director to pull of a World's Finest. While both Nolan and Singer are great, I'm not sure they would be the best choice, though I'm also not sure who would be...

David64

06-28-2006, 04:58 PM

While both Nolan and Singer are great, I'm not sure they would be the best choice, though I'm also not sure who would be...

I don't know... I think Singer could pull it off nicely :cool:

BeyondGotham

06-28-2006, 05:11 PM

Well.. looking at it, he did a nice job with Wolverine, and he's about as dark as Batman, so yea.. he could...

DR.MID-NITE

06-28-2006, 07:50 PM

holy crap this is what a batman vs superman movie should be
http://youtube.com/watch?v=rAQ3DvUTErE&search=batman%20vs%20superman

After watching that...I am calling child protective services. ;)

Thats pretty funny...But, hey...Batman was talking a lot of smack and deserved a beat down. :D

FroBro

06-29-2006, 05:42 PM

After watching that...I am calling child protective services. ;)

Thats pretty funny...But, hey...Batman was talking a lot of smack and deserved a beat down. :D

yeah it was hilarious when he said "do you like what youve done now"? too funny

Mike Spartz

06-30-2006, 01:19 AM

After watching that...I am calling child protective services. ;)

Thats pretty funny...But, hey...Batman was talking a lot of smack and deserved a beat down. :DThat was the saddest, most disgusting video I have seen in a long time. The parents of those two boys should be ashamed of themselves! :mad:

Knight

06-30-2006, 10:06 AM

I would love to see it since a live action Batman and Superman have never teamed up before.

FireStarterLE

06-30-2006, 10:45 AM

i thought it there was a rumored Batman Vs. Superman movie? ....... yeah here (http://www.efavata.com/CBM/Supesbat.htm)and here (http://www.cinescape.com/0/editorial.asp?obj_id=35575&aff_id=0&this_cat=Development+Heck)are some bits but there hasnt been any news on them in recent months

CyborgRex

06-30-2006, 07:59 PM

There was a Batman vs. Superman in the works. It got pretty far along but got shelved in favor of seprate movies to restart both franchises. Thats how we got Batman Begins, and Superman Returns.

FroBro

07-03-2006, 07:33 PM

i just wanna know how much something like this would cost. superman returns cost about 200 mil, BB cost about 150 mil so thats 350 mil, though im pretty sure a vs movie wouldnt cost anywhere near that, if it is just batman and superman fighting, superman throwing crap at him, batman tryin to run him over with the batmobile (which would be stupid) , no others villans and stuff. id say 200-250 mil.

DR.MID-NITE

07-03-2006, 10:30 PM

It wouldn't be anywhere near double. They made an X-Men movie with multiple big name actors. And with lots of effects laden characters and it still was within a normal big budget action film.

Azbatz

07-03-2006, 10:51 PM

I actually would want this to happen way down the road. Like after Singer/Nolan are done with there trilogies. Did anyone notice that in SR Lex makes New Kryptone out of kryptonite? So that could explain why his powers completely vanished otherwise it’d be pretty easy for Batman to defeat Superman with a small peace of kryptonite... I would want Superman as the protagonist and Batman as the antagonist. Not the other way around like it’s traditionally done in The World’s Finest.

krazymed

07-03-2006, 11:12 PM

Sadly, with the way DC is about licensing character rights and such, they could easily tease this team-up for years but not have to legally obligate to it.

sdp

07-03-2006, 11:16 PM

if SMvBM happened it wouln't be a VS but a team up movie...

and you can't combine budgets and say that is what it would cost, obviously it doesn't work that way...lol

adoptedBatpuppy

07-04-2006, 01:02 AM

We already have the animated movie of Batman and Superman's team up.
Do we really need a live-action one? :shrug:

Happy 4'th of July to Everyone! :cool:

BatKid

07-04-2006, 01:25 AM

We already have the animated movie of Batman and Superman's team up.
Do we really need a live-action one? :shrug:
You can't honestly believe that.. :shrug:

That's like saying:

We already have the quintessential Bond films with Goldfinger and From Russia, With Love. Do we really need any more?

Reeve is the one and only Superman. Does the role need to be recast?

The Godfather is a great novel. Is a film adaptation necessary?

Do you see where I'm getting at? :sweat:

dc_gothamite

07-04-2006, 11:43 AM

You can't honestly believe that.. :shrug:

That's like saying:

We already have the quintessential Bond films with Goldfinger and From Russia, With Love. Do we really need any more?

Reeve is the one and only Superman. Does the role need to be recast?

The Godfather is a great novel. Is a film adaptation necessary?

Do you see where I'm getting at? :sweat:

i agree (nice analogies there, BatKid)...

it's just that teaming up Batman and Superman is an idea and concept as old as any other superhero out there... it would be pretty sweet to see 'em both on-screen together

DR.MID-NITE

07-04-2006, 12:03 PM

We already have the animated movie of Batman and Superman's team up.
Do we really need a live-action one? :shrug:

Happy 4'th of July to Everyone! :cool:

I guess we have 60 years of Superman & Batman comics and numerous team ups. I guess we don't need the Batman & Superman animated series......I am just glad when they greenlit Timms animated versions they didn't take your advice. ;)

Knight

07-04-2006, 03:57 PM

Casey Mack

07-05-2006, 02:28 PM

Not to jump on adoptedBatpuppy but like the others I couldnt disagree more with your "do we really need it" statement. Yes indeed we need a LIVE ACTION team up between Batman and Superman because it would be incredibly awsome to see these two comic book icons in that format. I know it something I want to witness before my time is up on this planet.

but a live action BATMAN AND SUPERMAN movie would highly illogical. Superman is a a god-like being who can fly at the speed of light, and throw continents into space. He can move faster then Batman can think, and superman brain is like a computer. Superman is a messiah, he alone is suppose to save the world. Batman is a martial arts master in a bat-suit, why would superman need his help in the movieverse? Thiers is litterally nothing Batman can do that superman cannot. But their are a million things superman can do, that Batman cannot even dream of doing. The general populace and the people who see the movie will not buy such obsurd pairing, does god call on humans for help?

Is movie Batman able to do anything that can help movie superman? The answer is no, Batman will all iritate superman and slow him down. It will be painfull to watch, and frankly disrepectfull to the superman movies.

Knight

07-05-2006, 04:49 PM

but a live action BATMAN AND SUPERMAN movie would highly illogical. Superman is a a god-like being who can fly at the speed of light, and throw continents into space. He can move faster then Batman can think, and superman brain is like a computer. Superman is a messiah, he alone is suppose to save the world. Batman is a martial arts master in a bat-suit, why would superman need his help in the movieverse? Thiers is litterally nothing Batman can do that superman cannot. But their are a million things superman can do, that Batman cannot even dream of doing. The general populace and the people who see the movie will not buy such obsurd pairing, does god call on humans for help?

Is movie Batman able to do anything that can help movie superman? The answer is no, Batman will all iritate superman and slow him down. It will be painfull to watch, and frankly disrepectfull to the superman movies.

Correct me if im wrong but didnt the almighty godlike Superman just get outsmarted and have his ass kicked by a regular human in a movie here recently? As I recall he also got saved from certain death by some too. Hmmm..
I would say anything is possible and that even gods arent flawless.

David64

07-05-2006, 05:06 PM

Kinel Ozoa

07-05-2006, 07:41 PM

Correct me if im wrong but didnt the almighty godlike Superman just get outsmarted and have his ass kicked by a regular human in a movie here recently? As I recall he also got saved from certain death by some too. Hmmm..
I would say anything is possible and that even gods arent flawless.

There's truth to what he says. Also the fact the characters are completly different. Batman has different methods then Superman does. Supes is strait forward while Bats is patient and calculating. Also he doesn't have the handicap of relying on powers like superman does. I say Supes relies on his because when he was caught off guard with out them he got his ass handed to him.

But back on subject, I'm with most everybody in thinking this concept would be great, if done right. But deffinatly wait untill after both properties have finished their trillogies and the character various story arcs have been resolved so they don't have people asking questions as to why the hero's in question are doing what their doing when he might have had something unresolved in a previous flick.

DR.MID-NITE

07-05-2006, 09:53 PM

Casey Mack

07-05-2006, 11:09 PM

Correct me if im wrong but didnt the almighty godlike Superman just get outsmarted and have his ass kicked by a regular human in a movie here recently? As I recall he also got saved from certain death by some too. Hmmm..
I would say anything is possible and that even gods arent flawless.

He also threw a continent into deep space, and saved the world. I dun see how Batman could help him do those things. a team up movie would would be a direspect to the charater of superman in the movies. Superman as portrayed as a lone messiah,and it would essentialy take away that seorusness and fall into the realm of "super hero team up!". Batman Begins also takes itself serously, Batman is shown as a man who has perfected his body to peak levels. Nolans Batman world is not about teaming up with super aliens, and saving the world for a better tommrrow. If Batman can keep up with superman, why does he still struggle with common thugs? Im not trying to be mean, and im just saying from a logical stand point Batman would only get in superman way. Superman is essentially earths lone protector, and fans would rather not fall into the realm of stupidty and camp.

Paul_Cousins

07-06-2006, 12:52 AM

If they want to show Batman and Superman in the same movie, they should just make Frank Miller's "The Dark Knight Returns" comic into a movie.

The DKR movie would probably be 2 and a half hours long, but with as much care in production as Sin City, the movie would rock.

Though I didn't care for the stories in the movie Sin City, I will agree that the production quality to the movie was top notch.

Everyone would go see a movie where Batman and Superman fought each other to the death.

BatKid

07-06-2006, 01:11 AM

He also threw a continent into deep space, and saved the world. I dun see how Batman could help him do those things. a team up movie would would be a direspect to the charater of superman in the movies. Superman as portrayed as a lone messiah,and it would essentialy take away that seorusness and fall into the realm of "super hero team up!". Batman Begins also takes itself serously, Batman is shown as a man who has perfected his body to peak levels. Nolans Batman world is not about teaming up with super aliens, and saving the world for a better tommrrow. If Batman can keep up with superman, why does he still struggle with common thugs? Im not trying to be mean, and im just saying from a logical stand point Batman would only get in superman way. Superman is essentially earths lone protector, and fans would rather not fall into the realm of stupidty and camp.
You're acting as if the 2 just called each other's apartments and said, "hey, let's team up for no reason and just go on random heroic acts!" Obviously, the 2 would need some common denominator for them to team-up.

Like how it was done in World's Finest, both Supes and Batman knew their enemies very well. You can't lose by exchanging knowledge on the 2 biggest villains. That's why it's probably best for a B/S film to come out after the trilogies are dealt with. For example, Ra's Al Ghul can resurface as one of the villains, and this time set a worldwide attack.

Does Superman NEED Batman? Technically, he shouldn't. But again, was this not one of the MAJOR complaints against the character? That he was invulnerable? He could do anything that comes his way? As Luthor said in SR, it's "mind over muscle".

Casey Mack

07-06-2006, 02:06 AM

You're acting as if the 2 just called each other's apartments and said, "hey, let's team up for no reason and just go on random heroic acts!" Obviously, the 2 would need some common denominator for them to team-up.

Like how it was done in World's Finest, both Supes and Batman knew their enemies very well. You can't lose by exchanging knowledge on the 2 biggest villains. That's why it's probably best for a B/S film to come out after the trilogies are dealt with. For example, Ra's Al Ghul can resurface as one of the villains, and this time set a worldwide attack.

Does Superman NEED Batman? Technically, he shouldn't. But again, was this not one of the MAJOR complaints against the character? That he was invulnerable? He could do anything that comes his way? As Luthor said in SR, it's "mind over muscle".

you just further proved my point, besides get demolished buy movie critics[as a movie like this always will]. A team up movie would turn Batman into a "Swash Buckler" like they tried to make him in the last two 90s movies. Chris Nolan took Batman far away from that, and made Batman a Dark Night again. Buy time Bruce gets on the Bat-suit Superman already on the other side of the planet lol. Batman could tell superman where Ra's is, and supes will zip in their beat up his "Ninjas" and the day is saved. a Team up movie is something i thank God Chris Reeve wil never be around for, Because he would probbaly have the same rational as me here. Leave Batman in Gotham, and let superman fly around a 1930s inspired world saveing the day.

Paul_Cousins

07-06-2006, 03:10 AM

Does Superman NEED Batman? Technically, he shouldn't. But again, was this not one of the MAJOR complaints against the character? That he was invulnerable? He could do anything that comes his way? As Luthor said in SR, it's "mind over muscle".Actually Superman does have weaknesses, for example direct magical attacks can defeat him very quickly.

BatKid

07-06-2006, 03:23 AM

By the time Bruce gets on the Bat-suit Superman already on the other side of the planet lol. Batman could tell superman where Ra's is, and supes will zip in their beat up his "Ninjas" and the day is saved.
Well thank god you're not writing superhero stories. They'd last half a page. :yawn:

If you're going to apply that logic, why has Supes, or for that matter, ANY hero with the abilities of flight, superstrength, and superspeed, gotten into so many prolonged battles. I mean, can't they just swoop in and beat the bad guys before they can even blink? The answer is YES. But you'll likely have no audience. How boring would a story be if there was no sense of drama, suspense, etc? Extremely.

You can apply those same mechanics to any thriller/action/adventure/horror film put out by Hollywood. Sure there are many obvious ways in which they can just end the mayhem right then and there, but really, who wants that? We're here to be entertained, not shown a documentary of how it would really happen in real life. As long as the plot and action are kept fairly realistic, and not so silly it's impossible, I say leave it alone.

And look, I understand where you're coming from in not seeing someone as dark as Bats go team up with someone as go-lucky as Supes. But imo, that's exactly why it's so perfect. They contrast each other to almost every variable degree that it'd be purely iconic to see them side-by-side. It's not only funny seeing how the two interact, but their conflicting ideals also provide an engaging bond if handled with the right care.

Casey Mack

07-06-2006, 09:36 AM

Well thank god you're not writing superhero stories. They'd last half a page. :yawn:

If you're going to apply that logic, why has Supes, or for that matter, ANY hero with the abilities of flight, superstrength, and superspeed, gotten into so many prolonged battles. I mean, can't they just swoop in and beat the bad guys before they can even blink? The answer is YES. But you'll likely have no audience. How boring would a story be if there was no sense of drama, suspense, etc? Extremely.

You can apply those same mechanics to any thriller/action/adventure/horror film put out by Hollywood. Sure there are many obvious ways in which they can just end the mayhem right then and there, but really, who wants that? We're here to be entertained, not shown a documentary of how it would really happen in real life. As long as the plot and action are kept fairly realistic, and not so silly it's impossible, I say leave it alone.

And look, I understand where you're coming from in not seeing someone as dark as Bats go team up with someone as go-lucky as Supes. But imo, that's exactly why it's so perfect. They contrast each other to almost every variable degree that it'd be purely iconic to see them side-by-side. It's not only funny seeing how the two interact, but their conflicting ideals also provide an engaging bond if handled with the right care.

you see those bold words that highlighted in your post? Because i dun see how this movie can be taken serously, and how "realistic" it can be with a man in a Batsuit helping a super alien with god-like powers.Im sure if you want you can have, but dun expect a respectable actor like christian Bale to Play his version of the Batman in such a highly illogical movie. Also dun expect Nolan or singar to direct, as they respect the charatcers to much do that.

Knight

07-06-2006, 12:20 PM

you see those bold words that highlighted in your post? Because i dun see how this movie can be taken serously, and how "realistic" it can be with a man in a Batsuit helping a super alien with god-like powers.Im sure if you want you can have, but dun expect a respectable actor like christian Bale to Play his version of the Batman in such a highly illogical movie. Also dun expect Nolan or singar to direct, as they respect the charatcers to much do that.

I dont know where you are coming up with it being disrespectful to team up Batman and Superman in a movie. Have you read something where Singer or Nolan said they respect the characters too much to team them up or is this just your personal opinion on how you think they think? Anyone with a creative mindset can come up with a reason to pair the two. Its been happening in the comics and cartoons for years.

Casey Mack

07-06-2006, 01:07 PM

I dont know where you are coming up with it being disrespectful to team up Batman and Superman in a movie. Have you read something where Singer or Nolan said they respect the characters too much to team them up or is this just your personal opinion on how you think they think? Anyone with a creative mindset can come up with a reason to pair the two. Its been happening in the comics and cartoons for years.

comics,cartoons, but in a live action movie where Batman can't do half the things he pulls of in the cartoons and comics. You see to not get what im saying her, from a live aciton stand point, i would not work. You would need to make Superman look like an idiot, or tone him down considerabley, and then you would needs a valid reason he would need Batmans help to begin with. IT COULD BE DONE, BUT one charatcer would have to suffer to make the other character necessary. Batman and Robin and Batman forever is the only live action version of Batman that would work in team up movie. That version has crazy gadgets [even fore Batman]and makes witty comments, and are swash Buckler type versions of Batman. Chris nolan Batman would not work, because he is heavily grounded in the real world setting. Gotham isn't some neo lightshow[or some 1930s deco world] and Batmans abilities seem to not linger in the super-human territory. So sure their can be a team-up movie, just make Batman like he was in the late 90s movies.

DR.MID-NITE

07-06-2006, 02:05 PM

Being able to keep up with the "super-powered" heroes. Is one of the things that makes Batman so respected. And its been referenced and even made into a storyline in various comics and animated shows.

And Casey, Have you watched the animated episode "World's Finest"? Their are numerous examples of how a "mortal" bested a "god".

All it takes is good writing.

BatKid

07-06-2006, 02:26 PM

Also don't expect Nolan or Singer to direct, as they respect the charatcers to much do that.
Do you see those bold words in your post?

Singer Interested in Batman vs. Superman?
Source: MTV (http://www.mtv.com/movies/news/articles/1535663/story.jhtml)
July 6, 2006

Superman Returns director Bryan Singer told MTV (http://www.mtv.com/movies/news/articles/1535663/story.jhtml) that he would consider directing a Batman vs. Superman movie, but only after the Man of Steel establishes his identity more thoroughly.

"I've thought about it for a long time — even a longer time ago, actually," the director revealed. "But I don't know who would be the villain. I guess Batman would be the villain, but then he can't be too bad, because he is Batman. So not quite yet. ... I think Superman needs to have his own movies for a little while before that happens." Either way, Singer insisted that "everybody's excited to do more ... and I'm sure we'll do another one."

Man, it's like....God is watching over us or something. The timing is impeccable. :lol:

Knight

07-06-2006, 03:54 PM

Do you see those bold words in your post?

Man, it's like....God is watching over us or something. The timing is impeccable. :lol:

The irony. Wow. So much for Singer respecting them too much.

Silly McGooses

07-06-2006, 10:04 PM

You COULD just have Brandon Routh play Batman as a strange semi-team up...
http://img258.imageshack.us/img258/8397/brbatman4kt.jpg (http://imageshack.us/)

Azbatz

07-07-2006, 12:24 AM

http://www.superherohype.com/news/supermannews.php?id=4468

Bryan Singer is actually interested in directing Batman Vs. Superman after he’s done with his Superman trilogy! He must have liked Batman Begins. I just hope David Goyer and Christopher Nolan write the screenplay… Goyer would probably love to do a Superman pic seeing how he’s doing just about every superhero movie coming out, Batman, Flash, and now Thor… I don't the writers of SR to touch this one... They'll screw it up.

JKDilla

07-07-2006, 05:46 AM

I've been back and forth on this so many times. I see potential of a great dynamic between Bale's Batman and Routh's Superman... but I also see how the world's of those characters clash with each other. I go deeper in thought "cinematically" and I don't know how well they could blend into a good story.
I don't like the idea of a Batman vs Superman movie(where you're using Bale's Batman and Routh's Superman). That's why I was asking about a teamup movie. But the more I think about it the more I wonder if it's better a movie NOT be made with the two current versions of the superheros and their respective universes.
My reason is you have 2 very different visions and settings created by SR and BB. To try and mesh those particular worlds, as established by Singer and Nolan, is forcing a square into circular hole. While you can argue you can "write" around obstacles like this... does it do justice to the original "art" created by the two movie makers. When I originally asked the question I meant from a filmaker's/director's standpoint... would teaming the two characters work. And in the end with these two particular examples I think it's just too different.
I believe a Batman and Superman or a Batman vs Superman movie would totally work... just not versions presented to us by Singer or Nolan. Again, let's continue this conversation from artistic/director's perspective, and not the fact it's been done in the comics and cartoons. I'm interested in what everyone thinks.
Also, who would you finger to direct the project if you think it could work. I'm thinking you need someone who's proven himself with extreme characters in very dynamic and chaotic settings. I would venture to put Paul Thomas Anderson on something like this(Boogie Nights, Magnolia, Punch Drunk Love, Hard 8). He does a good job of weaving comicalness into a dark mood.

BatKid

07-07-2006, 02:15 PM

In regards to Nolan and Singer's visual representations of their respective films, I don't think there's that much of a difference. I'd say there was a drastic difference with Donner and Burton's, but not here. Both shot on-location (Chi and Sydney), both created fictional landmarks and incorporated it into the city (Narrows and Daily Planet), and both kept all of this fairly modern.

Whereas Nolan pretty much used everything from Chicago, Singer used Sydney and added little twists in design to give it more of an art deco/retro feel. That didn't hinder the city's modern aspects however, it's what you'd expect from a very big, but old city that's been retouched over the decades. Not to mention that there were quite a bit of night scenes in SR, which makes it fairly comfortable for the Dark Knight. ;)

DR.MID-NITE

07-07-2006, 02:22 PM

HaagenDas

07-09-2006, 06:46 PM

I would love a line or a picture in the next Batman movie. That makes mention of Superman. For example Bats makes a comment to Alfred or vice-versa..."I (you) can't fly around the city like that guy in Metropolis". :)It would have to be the other way around I would think. If the Begins continuity is supposed to bring back the Dark Knight and make a realistic portrayal, there cant be the element of fantasy of a guy flying around. However, Superman is already fantasy...so having someone at the Daily Planet mention the masked vigilante in Gotham would be cool. As someone pointed out earlier, Gotham already exists in the world of Metropolis as it was mentioned in SR.

I would love to see a teamup, but I am not sure how they can make a believable story. World's Finest was an impeccable storyline to bring the two characters together. I dont know how they can make a better storyline than that.

Btw, why doesnt Batman have his eyes shielded with the white reflective material like Spiderman does? In the comics Bats and Flash have that material, and since they obviously can make it work in live action (as seen in Spiderman) they need to have Bats adopt it.

BeyondGotham

07-09-2006, 09:03 PM

It was really in the works.. there was a plot outline, and perhaps a first script, but nothing more than that.

Premise/Story: A story involving THE 2 biggest comicbook superheros of all time: The Batman and Superman.
"The plot is structured in a way that these two very different sides basically of the same coin have to clash at some point because they handle situations totally differently," says director Wolfgang Peteson. "For a large portion of the thing they are at each other's throats. But then, of course, because they are both crime fighters, they join forces again and fight evil. You have also the look and feel of Metropolis, the bright golden city, and the feel of Gotham, which is a shadowy, sinister city, in the same movie. This is Superman/Batman of the time after September 11th, also. It takes place in today or tomorrow's world."
"I cannot tell you what really gets them together," says Petersen. "I can say that much of [the conflict] is because of the different philosophies that they represent. Superman represents sort of everything clear and bright and noble. He represents our hopes and ideals. Batman, on the other hand, represents the dark and obsessive and vengeful side." In addition: *No Robin. *Lot's of action. *The script concentrates on the two main characters. "It's really material for two great actors," says Peterson.

BatKid

07-09-2006, 10:12 PM

Well since it's been brought up, if you guys want to read more about the Petersen film (heck, it's much more since it's the whole script), feel free to dl it here:

http://www.dailyscript.com/scripts/asylum.pdf

Robin2099

07-10-2006, 12:51 AM

This movie would be a terrible idea. Not only would putting Batman and Superman in a movie make both franchises look like they are on life support and need a quick fix (see AVP and Freddy vs Jason), but the movie just wouldn't work all that well from a pacing standpoint and reason for them both to get together.

adoptedBatpuppy

07-10-2006, 12:12 PM

You can't honestly believe that.. :shrug:

That's like saying:

We already have the quintessential Bond films with Goldfinger and From Russia, With Love. Do we really need any more?

Reeve is the one and only Superman. Does the role need to be recast?

The Godfather is a great novel. Is a film adaptation necessary?

Do you see where I'm getting at? :sweat:

Yes, I see that you have good points! :anime:
I just don't want this movie to be another Batman and Superman fighting Lex and Joker and fighting each other over Lois! :eek: