VERY IMPORTANT Adult Swim news

[Killtacular]

In February, the week of the 23rd, two major things happen.

One is, the Thursday night of Adult Swim will go bye-bye. And Cowboy Bebop will leave the Sunday block as well.

However, it will be replaced by a new Saturday Night block, which is entirely action-oriented.

As I predicted earlier, it seems Adult Swim will be divided into action and comedy, with action toons on Saturday night and comedy toons on Sunday night.

What will be on Saturday night?

Yu-Yu Hakusho, Cowboy Bebop, Gundam 0083, and Pilot Candidate, followed by Outlaw Star and Tenchi Muyo.

Will Cowboy Bebop be more editted now? Nope.

Will the other shows be less editted now? Perhaps, and it's quite likely, but only if Williams Street is willing to go back into old animes and "un"-edit them.

Pilot Candidate and Gundam 0083, however, should enjoy far less editting than previously expected. I say should because anything is tentative to change. We don't know if this block will end up carrying a Toonami insignia, an Adult Swim insignia, or carry an entirely new name.

Yu-Yu Hakusho might still be hacked up like DBZ, because FUNimation is doing the editting themselves, and you know how THEY are.

Sunday night lineup has slightly changed to be more comedic in nature. Sheep in the Big City(the best Cartoon Cartoon in ages, IMO) will precede Adult Swim at 9:30, and Rocky and Bullwinkle and The Popeye Show will temporarily replace Cowboy Bebop in the midnight hour, until Mission Hill and The Oblongs move in.

That's all for now. I should have more updates later..

[Zorakfan]

To quote Gandalf on the status of the Ring of power: (i.e. secret; safe)

SWEET ASS!

*gets down and spins on his head*

[Sora Takenouchi]

A W E S O M E !!!!!!!!!!!

[livingfruitvirus]

Yu Yu hacked up?

FUNimation does better than Williams Street most of the time when it comes to footage. FUNimation leaves in all dry blood and words relating to death while Williams Street nixes it. The only thing they hack up is the dialogue.

[¤~B²~¤]

This is horrible the original adult swim (america) kicked booty why do they have to kill it?? Bebop is a sweetass show and now they are going to move it to a new time and day that just sucks majorly. first they change homemovies and took out one of its slots put in baby blues which is ok. then takes both my other two shows that totally sux. :mad:
Very disappointed

[Calhoun07]

Ugh, Saturday night? Crap, I never watch TV Saturday night. Not to mention there is never anything on Saturday, I just can't...work.

[Kesh]

Glad to hear this! Now, I can get to sleep on Sunday nights at a decent hour. ;) I probably won't even bother with the Sunday lineup now, but the Saturday shows sound awesome. Here's hoping they use the DVD unedited content for Outlaw Star and Tenchi (no more damn TEA! :wakko: ).

[ZorBrak]

grrrr, I usually can't manage to stay up that late on sunday, always too tired...crap

[Killtacular]

This is horrible the original adult swim (america) kicked booty why do they have to kill it??

In what way are they killing it? They're expanding. They can't keep on showing 2 home movies back to back forever, as much as you'd like it to be that way. This isn't YOUR Swim, this is Adult Swim. EVERYONE deserves to have something to like on the block, not just a small group of people. Maybe you don't like some shows, but don't think you represent the majority. Never think that.

[Chibi Kageboshi]

this is great news! and as for you who cant stay up.... as mentioned before... GET A VCR.

[LStorm2000]

FINALLY PILOT CANDIDATE =D

It took them long enough.........

I wonder if it will have Adult Swim bumpers

[Evil Dr. Reef]

Originally posted by Zorakfan
To quote Gandalf on the status of the Ring of power: (i.e. secret; safe)
SWEET ASS!
*gets down and spins on his head*
And, to quote Space Ghost
I LIKE THAT THAT HAPPENED!

[¤~B²~¤]

Like the budwiser commercial says TRUE yeah it isnt my Swim but i used to like everything in it and you have to admit season 1 Rocked for Adult Swim!!

[Zorakfan]

I like that that happened!

Mou koreo shimasho!

[Evil Dr. Reef]

Originally posted by Zorakfan
Mou koreo shimasho!
For all the people who DON'T understand Nihongo (the REAL name for Japanese), he just said "I like that that happened". It's not like you couldn't of guessed that, but I look for any chance I get to display my semi-awesome knowledge of the Japanese language.

[Zorakfan]

Yeah. Feel our wrath in the form of scentences that don't translate correctely.

Literal translation:
Again that happens is delightful!

Nekoga daiski des yo. Oishi des!

[Evil Dr. Reef]

How about this one:
"Otearai"
It means "bathroom", but literally translates to "Honerable Hand-Washing Station"
(Zorakfan, if you don't believe me, ask Mrs. Dostie)

[Zorakfan]

Don't have to. The 'O' says it all.

[The Polisher]

nihongo o zen-zen hanashimasen!

[Evil Dr. Reef]

Originally posted by The Polisher
nihongo o zen-zen hanashimasen!
You're right. You DON'T speak any Japanese. You Burger Lords and your "Space Meat"...
By the way, you're welcome for letting me enlighten you with that little bit of Japan, Polisher.

[Zorakfan]

Now thank dr. reef, psuedo- kami.

[Evil Dr. Reef]

Pseudo-Kami? Who? Me, or Christopher Michaels over there?

[Zorakfan]

You, Demi-buddah.

Wow! That's blasphemy and a half!

[Evil Dr. Reef]

No, that's blasphemy and three-quarters.
By the way, does anyone want to make a post relevant to this thread? If so, go right ahead! Me & Zorakfan can continue this later...OUTSIDE...
(audience says "ooooooooh...")

[Zorakfan]

First we have to get that god-forsaken blob to move. Hey blob...hear what The polisher was sayin bout ya? People were laughin man...

[Evil Dr. Reef]

Zorak: Well? Did it work?
Space Ghost: NO! Thanks to the blob and his stupid mother!

[The Polisher]

Ce-ling: Now freeze Space Ghost!... at 60 degrees!
Space Ghost: Body...Temperature...Lowering!

[Zorakfan]

Quick, grab the pure O2. Let's get rustin'!

[Evil Dr. Reef]

Oh, so you WANT the time-travel spinning head? Huh? Mister? Time?

[Zorakfan]

Hey! lets order one of those Mind-erasing kits!

[Memphis Bleek]

This Saturday block sounds interesting!

[The Polisher]

Old Kentucky, you shouldn't be out there in that sun! You need to come inside and put on some sunblock and a wide brim <shark explodes> Oh No!

[Zorakfan]

Shark! Help!

[Evil Dr. Reef]

Y'know, if any of the moderators want to step in and stop this, go right ahead...

[The Polisher]

Originally posted by Memphis Bleek
This Saturday block sounds interesting!

Yes, I anticipate great success for the saturday block, whatever the decide to call it (Yeti Spelunking Time?).

[Evil Dr. Reef]

How about "Anime Anime Anime!"
Due to the fact that that's what it is, and all...

[Zorakfan]

If tenchi goes uncut, we can call it:
Saturday Night Hentai Hormone Hoedown!

Yeeeeeehaw!

[The Polisher]

VERY IMPORTANT indeed...

[Evil Dr. Reef]

*343 Guilty Spark again*
You humans are disgusting. I hope the Flood eats you slowly.

[Zorakfan]

I hope it's not a flood of otters...or Worse...a plague of babies...

[Evil Dr. Reef]

What about hippies? To quote Chief Wiggum:
"It's time for an old-fashion hippie ass-whomping!"

[Zorakfan]

They love baby sandwiches!

[Evil Dr. Reef]

Hoo-boy, am I ever gonna get banned for this one

Below is a very, very, sick joke, that is in horrible taste. If you are offended, or grossed out easily, DO NOT READ THIS!!!!
***Read this at your own discretion***
***You have been warned***

*This joke removed so I don't get my ass booted off the boards*

Thanks a bunch Matt Wilson!

[Zorakfan]

Wow, You're actually trying to get banned? I'll be bored as hell without ya.

[Evil Dr. Reef]

I'm not TRYING to get banned, I'm just warning everyone that it was a very disgusting joke.
*sigh*
I feel dirty now. Oh so dirty.

[Zorakfan]

Well, there goes THIS post. Now it joins the 'Hottie' and 'Horrible Spike defilation' posts in message board hell.

[The Polisher]

<Sprays Evil Dr. Reef with disinfectant>
Clean, Lemony-fresh victory is MINE!

[Coollead]

minasan wa baka desune!

doyoubi no Katoono Netewoku wa yoii desune!!!

SOUDESUNE!!

...


... Post Hyaku. ^_^

[Zorakfan]

hai. Doyoobi no katoono netwookowa ii desyo!
Iieh, watashi to ebiru Dokutaa riifwa bakunai des. Itami des.
Hai, Soso!

[Zorakfan]

Ah!
Post Hyaku Omedeto!

MGS Ni totemo ii desyo!


"HEBIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIII!"

[Coollead]

Hai Hai Hai!

anata wa nihongo ga heta desu....
demo, watashi wa nihongo ga heta dewa arimasen.

Hai, MGS2 wa totemo ii desune!
So****e, MGS2 wa maamaa nigate desu.

[IkeTheMachine]

Originally posted by Evil Dr. Reef
*343 Guilty Spark again*
You humans are disgusting. I hope the Flood eats you slowly.


Dear god I love Halo

[randomguy]

To get this conversation back on track (no offense everyone, I love Japanese as much as the next guy) this is a GREAT idea. I have classes early monday morning so I can't usually stay up to watch Bebop. I'm really looking forward to catching what I haven't seen now. Yu Yu is a teen-oriented show, but should still fit comfortably one the block. I'm hoping to see less edited Outlaw Star and Tenchi as well... all in all, this makes a lot of sense, and like Matt said, it's an expansion, in logical directions to boot.

[Coollead]

"Kawanishi-Noseguchi, Kinunobebashi, Takiyama, Uguisunomori, Tsuzumigataki, Tada, Hirano, Ichinotoriim Uneno, Yama****a, Sasabe, Kofudai, Tokiwadai, Myoukenguchi."

[IkeTheMachine]

ashi-na-zuchi


say, which mod wants to change my name from member... cmon volunteer ppl... cmon

[Joe Tully]

Uh...can we get this back on topic here, guys? No offense, but other than Random Guy's post, this thread has been pretty meaningless since about 40 posts ago.

[Coollead]

Your post was off topic too :p

Well... I say, The more shows the better! Now if only Yu Yu Hashiku or whatever wasn't so LONG...

[Mr. Obsession]

Originally posted by Evil Dr. Reef
How about "Anime Anime Anime!"
Due to the fact that that's what it is, and all...
Ok... And since when have Batman or Superman or Batman Beyond or Justice League or Samurai Jack or Jonney Quest (or all the other HannaBarbera action shorts that I don't want to list) ever been considered anime?

Given that everything on the block, except Cowboy Bebop and YYH have been on Toonami at one point (Jonney Quest in the Real Adventures, the HB shorts under Roulette) or announce to air on Toonami (Pilot Candidate & 0083), and (according to Matt) that CB was edited to originally go in the Toonami Midnight Run before AS came along, I'm thinking it's going to either be a "Adult Swim presents Toonami" type of deal or just another Toonami block.

[Mr. Obsession]

Originally posted by Coollead
Your post was off topic too :p

Well... I say, The more shows the better! Now if only Yu Yu Hashiku or whatever wasn't so LONG...
Coollead, I'm 99.999% certain that YYH will air on Toonami at some point. In fact I'll eat my left shoe if YYH doesn't air on Toonami (either afternoons or Midnight Run).

[Deltamon]

They could call it "Mr. Pibbs' Cartooney-doodey vy-O-lint Show" and I'd still watch. It'd be somewhat nicer if the action block were under the Toonam name, but I shan't complain 'bout mere things like that.

What I WILL complain about, though, is that the only Japanese I know is 'Omae wo Korosu', and I don't even know if I said that right :p :p :(

*lets out a yawn from all three heads* :yawn: :yawn: :yawn:

Darn Zoids fetish, wakin' me up at 7:30 in the morning...

[Evil Dr. Reef]

Good! This thread is back on track. But anyway, I forgot about the Batman/Superman/ thing. So instead, you could call it...
"Action Action Action"!

[Zorakfan]

I still say Saturday night Hentai Hormone Hoedown, because then they could get quickdraw Mcgraw to host, and it would be the weirdest couple of hours of late night TV ever.

[Calhoun07]

Zorakfan, if you ever get that on the air, I would watch it! I don't see it coming to CN, but I would watch it! :D

[Ben]

The shows will rock. I will probably watch.

But I'm worried about the presentation. If it's a Toonami block, I will definitely watch. If it's not, I might tune in occassionally. The Toonami presentation, as the CNXers know, is half (if not most) of the appeal of the block. I hope WS can come up with a way to fit this into Toonami or an equally excellent new presentation style.

Honestly, the current Adult Swim look and feel (with the exception of Aquaman Dance Party) is irritating. And while the current promo style might be appropriate for a comedy block, it lacks the stylistic energy necessary for an action block. WS understood the necessity of that energy when they designed Toonami. I hope they can do it again.

[Killtacular]

It has nothing to do with Toonami. This is Adult Swim.


What are you talking about "energy"? Toonami is recycled. Recycled footage of Tom walking, recycled bumpers, recycled music, recycled fanart, recycled game reviews, recycled DBZ commercials...

Yes, AS has recycled commercials, but they haven't been running anywhere near as long as Toonami's. Toonami is the irritating one in my mind.

[Coollead]

There is no way in hell I want to see fat swimmers when I'm watching action cartoons. I want some psudeo Toonami stuff...or at least some better bumpers...

(And Toonami uses more than one tune :p )

[Chibi Kageboshi]

I agree.... i dont like how Adult Swim is. I wish they had a host maybe like Sara from Toonami or something.

[Sheamon]

But I'm worried about the presentation. If it's a Toonami block, I will definitely watch. If it's not, I might tune in occassionally. The Toonami presentation, as the CNXers know, is half (if not most) of the appeal of the block. I hope WS can come up with a way to fit this into Toonami or an equally excellent new presentation style.


Huh?! You mean to tell me half/most of the reason you watch Toonami is not because you're a fan of action/anime/animation/DBZ/Tenchi/Gundam/whatever, but because you like seeing a computer generated man walk around his ship in the same manner he's been doing it since he was created? Thats why you watch!? Not because of any appeal the shows give? Toonami/Adult Swim/whatever is about the shows that its on. Are those custom intros and unique eyecatch replacements nice? Of course! But they're window dressing, nothing more.

If Toonami/Adult Swim replaces its 'window dressing' every week, has tons of new custom music videos of DBZ/OS/whatever during the commercials, shows tons of nice fanart, etc... but shows nothing but garbage, the block is garbage. If they show great shows, but use the same 'window dressing' that they haven't replaced for a year, the block is still great. Thats all that matters.

I guess I just don't understand you people who obsess about the 'window dressing' of the blocks so much. Last time I checked, it was the SHOWS that brought in the ratings, not what Tom looked like, or how often they revamped the Absolution.

[ohmrbill]

Bingo, Sheamon.

But I do sympathize with the people who don't like the AS presentation. Some of the longer clips of old people swimming are REALLY annoying. So annoying, in fact, that I'm motivated to change the channel when they're on.

[DarkMaster]

is it half the reason we watch?

think about why u love toonami again.

We like toonami cauz they're, always doing something different.
even if changing the intros or getting new shows takes longer than expected lol. and don't tell me u don't sometimes sit watching re-runs for a new promo becauz it's cooler than the show itself. :)

Isn't the other half wanting to see what tom and sara would do next in the absolution, what happens to them, or what intro or promo they'll show next? Yes.

Or would u rather have an adult swim announcer, and watching adults, swim in a pool? :)

[Vin]

Originally posted by Sheamon


Huh?! You mean to tell me half/most of the reason you watch Toonami is not because you're a fan of action/anime/animation/DBZ/Tenchi/Gundam/whatever, but because you like seeing a computer generated man walk around his ship in the same manner he's been doing it since he was created? Thats why you watch!? Not because of any appeal the shows give? Toonami/Adult Swim/whatever is about the shows that its on. Are those custom intros and unique eyecatch replacements nice? Of course! But they're window dressing, nothing more.

If Toonami/Adult Swim replaces its 'window dressing' every week, has tons of new custom music videos of DBZ/OS/whatever during the commercials, shows tons of nice fanart, etc... but shows nothing but garbage, the block is garbage. If they show great shows, but use the same 'window dressing' that they haven't replaced for a year, the block is still great. Thats all that matters.

I guess I just don't understand you people who obsess about the 'window dressing' of the blocks so much. Last time I checked, it was the SHOWS that brought in the ratings, not what Tom looked like, or how often they revamped the Absolution.

You hit the nail on the head Sheamon.

Personally, I don't think the AS presentation would work for an all action block, I'd perfer something edgier. However, I'm just grateful we are getting the block at all.

[The Polisher]

Originally posted by Vincent Benenati
However, I'm just grateful we are getting the block at all.

True, that is reason in itself to be happy. I was really mad that they cancelled the original Toonami Midnight Run! It doesn't really matter what they show between the show and commercials that much.

[Evil Dr. Reef]

As long as they don't bucher the shows, I'll be happy.

[AgentMaxX]

Hmmmm, this could be pretty cool. I have my doubts tho. For one, even tho Tenchi Muyo! is an awesome series, the major stuff they dited out probably won't be put back. Ya, there were some sears and some blood, but the major thing they cut out was the fact that the girls never wore swimsuits! Whenever you see them in swimsuits, chances are that they were drawn in. So i don't expect to see too much of a difference in Tenchi, as CN wouldn't dare put pretty much full blown nudity on their channel (as someone said in another post, a couple complaints and its off the air). As for Outlaw Star, once again it was only blood and swears edited out except for an entire episode (Hot Springs Ti...sumthin), in which the women are naked at the springs. It was an important episode too cause that's where gene gets all his castor shells. I hope they add that episode back in, even if they have to draw swimsuits in. Gundam 0083 is cool, but i haven't seen more than 3 or 4 eps, so i wouldn't know what they edit out. And the other two ive heard of, but havent seen anything. In conclusion, itll be pretty cool, but hopes shouldnt rise beyond expectation.

[Eddy]

Cool! I've wanted to see un-edited Outlaw Star and Tenchi Muyo, that is, if they unedit them.

[Zorakfan]

At least give us 'hotsprings' with Digital bathingsuits!

[DarkMaster]

The last pieces of the puzzle of the action block.

Official from dragonballz.com

YuYu Hakusho will be leading the block from 11-2pm.

Schedule:
11:00P - 11:30P YUYU HAKUSHO
11:30P - 12:00A COWBOY BEBOP
12:00A - 12:30A PILOT CANDIDATE
12:30A - 1:00A GUNDAM 0083
1:00A - 1:30A OUTLAW STAR
1:30A - 2:00A TENCHI

This last bit comes from meagan and the toonami.com people
From the animeadrenaline site thanx to brundelfly for this inside scoop:

0083 and pilot candidate were originally intended for the toonami afternoon block. that's how they r edited. Despite what fans think there will be no airing of hot spring from outlaw star due to questionable content. No money will be used to go back to previous shows. Cowboy Bebop will remain the same. And finally the last bit, CN will no longer be censoring it's shows. They ARE going to rely on the distribution companies.

[Chibi Kageboshi]

0083 and pilot candidate were originally intended for the toonami afternoon block. that's how they r edited. Despite what fans think there will be no airing of hot spring from outlaw star due to questionable content. No money will be used to go back to previous shows. Cowboy Bebop will remain the same. And finally the last bit, CN will no longer be censoring it's shows. They ARE going to rely on the distribution companies.

Where did you get that info from? that totaly sucks. if pilot candidate and 0083 are edited for toonami then they have no place is adult swim neither does tenchi or outlaw star really. that pisses me off because adult swim is suppose to be for adults and their playing **** ment for pre-teens. also if cn wont be editing their stuff anymore then its prob. gonna be big time cut up.

[Killtacular]

Yeah. I'd really like an url for that please.

Toonami.com is NOT Toonami the production company. I don't think they know any more about it than we do.

And most distributors ask that Williams Street do the editting, so I don't see why they'd give that up.

[DarkMaster]

here u go matt:

http://animeadrenaline.undergroundsystem.com/index.shtml

[DarkMaster]

Since shows like Gundam 0083 and Pilot Candidate were originally slated to air in Toonami's Weekday they were edited under that set of standards. Money will NOT be spent to go back and re-edit or un-edit them. CN will not be editing anymore shows; we will rely upon the distribution companies to do that from now on. Bebop will remain the same just moved to a different time slot and section of Adult Swim (Saturday Night Action block). Outlaw Star will remain the same; despite what the fans seem to think, there is no way CN will air Hot Springs Planet Tenrei due to the high incidences of questionable content.

That's what the whole paragraph says.

[Sheamon]

If thats true, then this is ridiculous.
WHY THE HELL CALL IT ADULT SWIM WHEN YOU EDIT THE SHOWS FOR EIGHT YEAR OLDS!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!

And like I've said a million times, the Hot Springs episode is ridiculously tame compared to the hype. If they can't get that extremely tame thing on with limited editing in the 20 or so seconds that there actually is nudity, then there's no hope for anything remotely adult content-wise, especially the shows like Evangelion and Love Hina that people love to keep bringing up.

[VinceA]

And most distributors ask that Williams Street do the editting, so I don't see why they'd give that up.
One reason I can see WS street pushing the editing back on to the distributor is that Toonami/Adult Swim is almost a big commercial for the DVD releases of the shows. Viewed this way maybe CN will be paying less for the shows under this sort of arrangement. I know a lot of people (including some from around here & CNX) bought the DVDs for shows after watching them on CN.

[DarkMaster]

Let me explain, adult swim and toonami have limitations.
Sean is subjected to these limitations, while u may not like them he has to do it.

And that's not true u can have love hina and evangelion uncut like bebop.

And thanx to your success of watching both blocks creates an anime fan base, whose to say sean can't create something new?
i'll give ya a clue, why is their japanese on the absolution again?Hmmn ..why would an action block that acquires english dubs do that? unless..... (well hey u fill in the blank)

who r the ones that mostly want buy all the videogames/new systems?
who helped the thundercats?
who helped voltron?
who helped sailormoon?
who is always their to help when we want more anime?

sure we hate them advertiseing anime that way, but, it can get better. Cowboy Bebop is one piece proof of that. And uncut gundam is another. Kids help.
Your still a kid u want to help your favorite show. :)
Why don't u be a kid again and help? It's worth a shot and can payoff.

If u were hard of hearing or couldn't download the stronger than the rest promo at toonamiarsenal.com:
"The rewards are unbelievable" ;)

[Killtacular]

Let me explain, adult swim and toonami have limitations.
Sean is subjected to these limitations, while u may not like them he has to do it.

Sean should stick to ruining the anime on his OWN block. Adult Swim doesn't need his anime "magic touch".


And that's not true u can have love hina and evangelion uncut like bebop.

That seems to be Sean's magical, deluded plan. Tell the distributors they can edit so that Gainax will give EVA over.


And thanx to your success of watching both blocks creates an anime fan base, whose to say sean can't create something new? i'll give ya a clue, why is their japanese on the absolution again?

Because "Japanese IS l33t r0xxx0rz" to kids.


who r the ones that mostly want buy all the videogames/new systems?
Kids WANT to buy them, but parents HAVE to buy them.


who helped the thundercats?
who helped voltron?
who helped sailormoon?
Okay, you aren't even making sense now. None of those shows are Toonami anymore, and Voltron has no hope of coming back.


who is always their to help when we want more anime?
Who is "we"?


Cowboy Bebop is one piece proof of that. And uncut gundam is another. Kids help.
But Gundam is NOT uncut.


Your still a kid u want to help your favorite show.
Why don't u be a kid again and help? It's worth a shot and can payoff.
What the hell are you talking about? YOU AREN'T MAKING SENSE.

Sean Atkins is making a mockery of Adult Swim by putting children's anime on late at night and slapping the word "adult" on it!

I will not support this move if Matt's letter is true, and nor will the site.


"The rewards are unbelievable"
But the consequences are lethal.

[Zorakfan]

The ultimate zing!

*Howlin mad Howl*

[Sora Takenouchi]

DarkMaster...YOU AREN'T MAKING SENSE!

[Chibi Kageboshi]

So is this true or not?

[Evil Dr. Reef]

Who the hell knows, anymore? Okay, if anyone from CN should stumble onto this board, let's make this clear:
If the anime will be unedited, call at least that section of it Adult Swim.
But if will be chopped to hell like usual, call it Toonami, so everyone will be happy, and nobody will be confused.

[Sheamon]

Man, this is a hard one to get through. Try to make more sense next time ;)

>>Let me explain, adult swim and toonami have limitations.
Sean is subjected to these limitations, while u may not like them he has to do it.

What limitations? :P If its money concerns, I don't get what the big deal is. They still have the uncut episodes of Outlaw Star. The only episode that would have to be edited is the Hot Springs one. I don't exactly get how this would cost them all this ridiculous amount of money.

>>And that's not true u can have love hina and evangelion uncut like bebop.

If the Hot Springs episode is too offensive to air, you will never see a single episode of Love Hina on there which has hot springs in almost every episode, with you seeing just as much as you do in the Hot Springs episode (outside of the few instances of real nudity), or any of the nude scenes late in Eva for that matter. Have you even seen any of those shows, or Outlaw Star uncut?
It doesn't seem like it.

>>sure we hate them advertiseing anime that way, but, it can get better. Cowboy Bebop is one piece proof of that. And uncut gundam is another.

Any ground made by Cowboy Bebop's mildly edited run and Gundam Wing's less cut (no, it was not uncut) version is totally lost if something as tame as the Hot Springs episode can't be aired on AS.

I'm not even gonna bother with the rest of the stuff.

[KingKoopa]

If this is true, than Adult Swim is a failed experiment. It started out on the right foot airing Cowboy Bebop like they did, but now it's becoming another Toonami. They should just call it Toonami and give a warning before Cowboy Bebop, because this is a disgrace to Adult Swim. Only 1 adult show, everything else is just TV-Y7. Wasn't the original intent of Adult Swim to bring in shows rating TV-PG and TV-14? This is the death of Adult Swim, because it's going to bring in a bunch of kids who want to see the next Gundam, a bunch of kids who want to see this new show by the "makers" of Dragonball Z, a bunch of kids who want to see this new Toonami show, and a bunch of kids who will watch Cowboy Bebop waiting for PC an 0083 to come on. This killed the block.

[Artemis]

I don't believe that Yu Yu Hakusho and Cowboy Bebop are the only animes that will get the AS treatment and PC and 0083 will go by Toonami standards and still have it called Adult Swim. That move is just too stupid.

[Chibi Kageboshi]

if this does happen i would love to have a chat with these people and just slap up them upside the head.

[Jimmy Kustes]

Fear the wrath of God himself if you are under 18-years-old and watch Hurculoids on Adult Swim. (sarcastic) :rolleyes:

[Spike Mcdougal]

EDIT:Uh never mind

[Gromit]

This whole thing seems preposterous. One adult show,with hacked up kiddy fare does not an adult block make.


If this is true,then shame on the people responsible.

[DJRed]

Wow. I had no idea that re-airing there old edited shows and a few new edited shows was the sign of the appocalypse.
Good gravy people, settle down.
Just watch the damn shows and enjoy. They just started. It's a new idea. Although personally i do believe that they should have just aired PC and 0083 on Toonami still at least this shows that they have made a space on there channel were they'll eventually show much more adult shows.
And the fact that a business/channel/company/network/hotdog stand won't go back and spend more money on something that they've already finished with says absolutely nothing. They have to air something and of all there choices they chose pretty much the most adult stuff they have. Yeah, the fact that an edited 0083 and PC are there more "adult" choices is rather sad but well, that's toonami. God if those shows go to adult swim then does that mean hello kitty is coming to toonami?
Ugh, the horror...

[Calhoun07]

Well, the line up on Adult Swim Saturdays may not be the sign of the apocalypse, but Hello Kitty on Toonami certainly would be!

[BrundelFly]

Ok, now this comes as a suprise. I'm checking my counter today and I notice I've gotten a ton of hits from Toonzone, low and behold this is why. Never posted here before, but thought I might clear up a bit of a mis-quote that's partially my fault. Matt is from Toonami.Com while Meagan is a Toonami & Adult Swim Producer. These are my two contacts from over at Toonami and I was just thanking them both for keeping me up to date on the Adult Swim news stuff in that particular update to my site. The exact e-mail was from Meagan, and that's the part that's been quoted here and several other places.

Later, BrundelFly
Anime Adrenaline (http://www.theadrenaline.cjb.net) - The Ultimate Anime Rush

[Mr. X]

:mad: As one of the "adults" that this block is supposed to appeal to, I sincerely hope CN reconsiders the decision to break up the Adult Swim lineup. The variety of the shows is what got me hooked on AS in the first place. I loved the format because it reminded me a bit of the original adult oriented comic mags like Heavy Metal and Epic--some slapstick, some surrealism, and some seriously cool sci-fi. Now they want to reinforce the notion that animation is either "ha-ha" funny or weird (to mainstream American tastes) Japanese animation. I am not a big anime fan, and if Bebop had not been included in the lineup, I would never have discovered this incredible show. PLEASE RECONSIDER, CN! Oh, yeah, and more original programming and fewer WB retreads!

[Killtacular]

Thank you for the clarification, Brundel..

[BrundelFly]

Man you guys sure get upset over one of the most trivial things of all time. Adult Swim is not being broken up at all, it is merely be expanded to now be on TWO days instead of one. I don't care what you think, this is always good. We're not losing anything but are gaining 6 new shows for Adult Swim to use. And this is bad how? The answer to that is it's not bad. I said the same thing over at Gundam.Com when this discussion blew up there. Adult Swim is going to be using the highest rated shows of Toonami which they already have the rights to so they can get a good start for Adult Swim. By taking such shows as Outlaw Star and putting them on ther in combonation with Cowboy Bebop, and two shows that have never been on American television at all, they are going to get MASSIVE ratings. This is the begining, within months the lineup will change and we will get more shows on there, but they have to start with something that will get them ratings. These titles will do that for them, and in a couple months you'll all be kicking yourselfs in the ascii for throwing so much of a fit over something that hasn't even played out yet.

Later, BrundelFly
Anime Adrenaline (http://www.theadrenaline.cjb.net) - The Ultimate Anime Rush

[Mr. X]

Not trying to start a flame war or anything, but my point is whether you want to call it "breaking up" or "expanding" the lineup, the essential character of the block is being changed from variety to a bunch of shows that are similar in nature. I appreciate Brundel's point about using highly-rated shows to create a foundation for new nights--I just think it ain't gonna work that way. The audience of Adult Swim (at least the ones I know) isn't necessarily the regular CN audience and doesn't necessarily watch Toonami. I've got Bebop on DVD and things to do most Saturday nights, so at least in my case, it's not going to work out like you say. But, as you indicate, the proof is in the ratings, so I suppose time will tell...

[Killtacular]

My problem is that if people see a TV-Y7 rating on the first show of the block, they'll change the channel.

And that would screw the block right there.

[Evil Dr. Reef]

MY problem is seeing a TV-Y7 rating on any of the anime shows.

[Zorakfan]

What even digimon?

...oh, yeah, forgot about that whole pornomon guy. After all, they are digital, and a good amount of the internet is you know what. He evolves into Hentaimon and is eventually defeated by Counterstrikeservermon.

[Artemis]

Don't forget that battle with Tentaclemon they had. :p

[Evil Dr. Reef]

God, Hentai seems to be infecting every corner of this site...
I will have to find the people responsable for this and kill them.
Oh wait...that's me & Zorakfan.
Oops... Sorry everybody!

[Sheamon]

Change the name to Toonami or a Toonami related block, and you'll get nothing but praise from me.

The problem I have is when you call it an adult block, they'll probably still use those ridiculous disclaimers that shouldn't even be used on the current Adult Swim, and the whole time air TV shows that were edited for 6 year olds, with words like kill, die and damn taken out. Thats the problem. It turns Adult Swim from a block that was atleast somewhat mature into Toonami2.

And for all the people who love to talk over and over about how great it is that Evangelion, Love Hina or even Trigun can be aired on TV now get to see all the chances that ever existed in the first place go down the toilet. If they air shows aimed at 7 year olds, how can you expect something even remotely mature like Evangelion? After all, if Outlaw Star's rather tame(compared to the current Adult Swim) content can't be aired, how can you expect a show with a little girl getting strangled and a 15 year old gay boy getting decapitated to ever have a chance in the world? :p

Change the name and my complaints will cease. That is all.

[Sora Takenouchi]

Yes if this is how they're gonna treat the shows, then make it a Toonami presentation with special disclaimers for Cowboy Bebop and Yu Yu Hakusho.

[Evil Dr. Reef]

Sounds like a good idea to me. It's too bad nobody from Toonami will ever hear about it.

[BrundelFly]

You guys definitely seem to be mixing the issues here. Toonami has shows aimed a younger children, Adult Swim will only TEMPORARILY have these shows on there at a start. I say temporarily because undoubtedly the new block will have such titles as Trigun on it. I for one doubt that Pilot Candidate will get a simply Y7 rating, I wouldn't be suprised if it got an M. Why you ask? Because as has recently been found out, Cartoon Network will no longer be editing their shows themselves. But what about the shows the fall into that zone that's just right for Adult Swim. The zone where an anime in its unedited format is neither too mature, or too imature. Pilot Candidate could seriously be this. Just because CN wont be editing stuff anymore doesn't mean we wont be pushing the limits as they've done in the past.

Later, BrundelFly
Anime Adrenaline (http://www.theadrenaline.cjb.net) - The Ultimate Anime Rush

[Sheamon]

You really think they'd pull Outlaw Star off after only a few weeks/months? Its 25 episodes long, thats 6 months. Thats hardly temporary. :mad:

[livingfruitvirus]

Originally posted by BrundelFly
You guys definitely seem to be mixing the issues here. Toonami has shows aimed a younger children, Adult Swim will only TEMPORARILY have these shows on there at a start. I say temporarily because undoubtedly the new block will have such titles as Trigun on it. I for one doubt that Pilot Candidate will get a simply Y7 rating, I wouldn't be suprised if it got an M. Why you ask? Because as has recently been found out, Cartoon Network will no longer be editing their shows themselves. But what about the shows the fall into that zone that's just right for Adult Swim. The zone where an anime in its unedited format is neither too mature, or too imature. Pilot Candidate could seriously be this. Just because CN wont be editing stuff anymore doesn't mean we wont be pushing the limits as they've done in the past.

Later, BrundelFly
Anime Adrenaline (http://www.theadrenaline.cjb.net) - The Ultimate Anime Rush

But I doubt they would want to have wasted all that money editing the series' without putting it to use. This isn't as simple as paying for a series and not airing it. This can't be used as a tax write-off.

[Killtacular]

Exactly.

Pilot Candidate doesn't have a rating in the schedule, but if Maegan said it has Toonami edits, then it's likely TV-Y7.

[BrundelFly]

Ok, I should clearify myself. After watching Toonami for over 4 years, I've gotten used to things that run for 6 months being temporary. I can't think of hardly any titles that have lasted on Toonami for over 6 months in fact. Pilot Candidate isn't going to just be cycled out. The shows that are going to be the temporary ones are the ones such as Tenchi Muyo. Outlaw Star has already had a million and one runs on the Daily and Midnight Runs, for this reason I'm betting it will only be on for one cycle. My point still stands, this initial line up is a ratings build up, nothing more. To gripe over it is simply pointless. Mind you, I'm not saying all of this as if its offical news from the inside or anything, merely an educated guess based on past situations.

Later, Brundelfly
Anime Adrenaline (http://www.theadrenaline.cjb.net) - The Ultimate Anime Rush

[Killtacular]

Still, I don't see why Pilot Candidate should stay for longer than a couple of cycles if it is TV-Y7.

I think that after Adult Swim, it should air on the Toonami Midnight Run, where it seemed like it was originally headed in the first place.

[randomguy]

It's worth noting that Pilot Candidate is a truly terrible series. There's no use making noise over whether or not its edited- it'd be real boring anyway. It was also never an adult series to begin with. I find this problem with Adult Swim a lot- it's really more Teen Swim. Even if it were 100% unedited, Yu Yu Hakusho is still just for the slightly over DBZ set, so once again, I really don't care how AS handles shows that werent' adult to begin with. Gundam and Outlaw Star might be a diffrent matter, I'll admit, but overall, I don't really think it matters. There IS more Adult action animation out there, I think the block just needs to get a following first; that's all, and it's not economical for CN at this point to blow too much money on new accquisitions.

[BrundelFly]

This is the thing, traditionally, when we think of "Adult Anime" its either hentai, or straight up just gore and violence (Iria Movies). But an anime title can also be considered "adult" when it deals with such issues as religion. Evangelion for example really doesn't have that much "adult" content in the traditional anime sense. But it's simply so heavily laden with religous overtones that it can't be considered for airing on something like Toonami. My point is, titles like Evangelion were originally designed for teen audiances because in Japan, they don't have nearly as many social inhibitions as America. So when you take a group of anime fans like us, and we look at Japanese titles that would normally be considered "adult" in the States and say "HEY, Yeah, thats a great title for kids!" it's because we're coming from the perspective of otakus. Adult Swim has the name because it's going by traditional American standards that say cussing and serious issues make an anime adult, not because it's actually going to show adult anime. I seriously don't care though, the name Adult Swim is cool to me. I think it's quite catchy and I seriously just cant fathom any way that they could go wrong with this block any time soon.

Later, BrundelFly
Anime Adrenaline (http://www.theadrenaline.cjb.net) - The Ultimate Anime Rush

[OutlawStar]

YES!!!!!
Its about time that something GOOD comes to Saturday nihgts. INstead of showing bad old cartoons, we are getting an action packed Adult Swim!! Cowboy Bebop, And OutlawStar, And Gundams, and Tenchi!!! I remember when DBZ used to be onb Saturdays at 11:00 PM but WOW! I cant wait :) :D :bosko: :cool:

[William C. Maune]

[indent]So do any of you in the know have any idea if the Saturday Adult Swim block is going to be only anime or if it is only starting out that way? Anime is cool and all, but I sure hope they at least get something besides shows out of Japan.

[KingKoopa]

Originally posted by AFXanatos
     So do any of you in the know have any idea if the Saturday Adult Swim block is going to be only anime or if it is only starting out that way? Anime is cool and all, but I sure hope they at least get something besides shows out of Japan. Like what?

[_Brenda]

Originally posted by Matt Wilson
In February, the week of the 23rd, two major things happen.

One is, the Thursday night of Adult Swim will go bye-bye. And Cowboy Bebop will leave the Sunday block as well.

However, it will be replaced by a new Saturday Night block, which is entirely action-oriented.

As I predicted earlier, it seems Adult Swim will be divided into action and comedy, with action toons on Saturday night and comedy toons on Sunday night.

What will be on Saturday night?

Yu-Yu Hakusho, Cowboy Bebop, Gundam 0083, and Pilot Candidate, followed by Outlaw Star and Tenchi Muyo.

Will Cowboy Bebop be more editted now? Nope.


Will the other shows be less editted now? Perhaps, and it's quite likely, but only if Williams Street is willing to go back into old animes and "un"-edit them.

Pilot Candidate and Gundam 0083, however, should enjoy far less editting than previously expected. I say should because anything is tentative to change. We don't know if this block will end up carrying a Toonami insignia, an Adult Swim insignia, or carry an entirely new name.

Yu-Yu Hakusho might still be hacked up like DBZ, because FUNimation is doing the editting themselves, and you know how THEY are.

Sunday night lineup has slightly changed to be more comedic in nature. Sheep in the Big City(the best Cartoon Cartoon in ages, IMO) will precede Adult Swim at 9:30, and Rocky and Bullwinkle and The Popeye Show will temporarily replace Cowboy Bebop in the midnight hour, until Mission Hill and The Oblongs move in.

That's all for now. I should have more updates later..


Adult Swim was just fine. It just needed tweeking on what shows to mix up and perhaps to be run an hour earlier so that people don't have to stay up so late to watch it. Saturdays are a bad idea. Most people go out or watch other shows on Saturdays. And for the one who wrote if you can't stay up to watch it then buy a vcr. I agree to a point but when it comes to ratings taping it will show were not there watching it so the whole premise of the show will go bye bye. Cancellations will be at hand once again and shows we can't follow will be put in their place. Re-runs people, re-runs. So we'll end up not watching again and maybe running to another network and watching something else. Network people need to take their time to figure out what to do. I know we have got those indivuduals 'there are many on these forums' who have the mentality of I want it and I want it now! Usually in our desire to fullfill the request things are done with tons of mistakes. The network should start making their suggestions to the viewers first and having us vote on what we would like done. That way it can be done fairly and accurately. It would leave out less chance of mistake. As for editing material. why not run the less controversial material at the earlier hour and leave the rest for later. Might take the edge off and editing might be less. Adult swim was a great idea take time to work on it and make it better.

[Killtacular]

It's better to run the less-editted anime first. If adults tuned in and saw TV-Y7, they'd immediately change the channel. But if they see TV-PG or TV-14, they'll stay a while longer.

Saturday will do immensely better than Thursday night. I'm sure people loved Thursday night, but it simply wasn't cutting it in the ratings.

And Saturday has been a harbor for anime before. The original Toonami Midnight Run was a Saturday night block of anime and it was very successful for a while. Adults might be out on Saturday, but I doubt they'll be out past 1 or 2 am.

[William C. Maune]

"Like what?"

[indent]There is a lot of animation out there besides stuff from Japan. America doesn't have too much except say Spawn, but newly produced shows coudl be added later. Europe puts out quite a bit of animation some of which could surely picked up, as well as other parts of the world.

[Dan]

Is Batman still gonna be on the Saturday AS?

[KingKoopa]

Originally posted by AFXanatos
"Like what?"

     There is a lot of animation out there besides stuff from Japan. America doesn't have too much except say Spawn, but newly produced shows coudl be added later. Europe puts out quite a bit of animation some of which could surely picked up, as well as other parts of the world. But would they belong on Adult Swim, or not? That's the real question.

[William C. Maune]

[indent]Yes, that is the real question, but we will never know until shows outside of Japan are looked into. Also, to add to possible American shows, The Maxx, Aeon Flux, etc. might work.

[jeffrey 228]

Well at least I'll be seeing 2 new animes when this new thing comes around.

[livingfruitvirus]

I heard "Aeon Flux" "The Maxx" and "The Head" were all huge hits in Japan. Could be because they aired in "saga" format. How many episodes was The Maxx anyway? 6? The first season of The Head was 7 episodes, comprised of 13 11 minute episodes with one held over to episode 13. Season 2 was much weirder and more episodic.

The artwork though for the other 2 shows was great. It looked just like it came out of Japan. I wonder if the Japanese thought it did?

I also recall WS mentioning they're looking at MTV acquisitions.

[Jesse James]

Gundam 0083: Stardust Memory/ Last Blitz of Zeon..........nuff said.
Less on story, lots on action. My kinda show. Oh yeah, and,
*****Hail Mark Simmons!!!!!!!*****

[Katsuya_Suoh]

It's no point bemoaning the butchering of thhe Adult Swim. Anime's becoming more and more popular in the US, and soon, mabye there will be an Anime channel, with no editing and subs, not dubs.

[The Polisher]

Originally posted by Katsuya_Suoh
It's no point bemoaning the butchering of thhe Adult Swim. Anime's becoming more and more popular in the US, and soon, mabye there will be an Anime channel, with no editing and subs, not dubs.
That will be a glorious day, indeed, but I don't see it happening in the near future, unfortunately.

[Karva]

Personally, the only show (besides Cowboy Bebop) I'm looking forward to is Tenchi Muyo. I've been pining for when CN would show a slightly less edited version of the series. I know they won't include the nudity, but perhaps this time they'll drink sake instead of "tea". Heh, that always bugged me even though it's such a moot point.
I've never even heard of the other shows, so no comment on those. :P

[atf487]

When did this become a Toonami thread. Look at the title. it has nothing to do with toonami.

[The Polisher]

Originally posted by atf487
When did this become a Toonami thread. Look at the title. it has nothing to do with toonami.
You're right that it's not a toonami thread, but we're not talking about Toonami. If you've read the rest of the thread, you would know that it's about the upcoming Adult Swim action block on staurday nights, starting Feb. 23, I believe. It has a lot of anime in it, so that's what this thread has become centered around.

[Killtacular]

I'm looking forward to is Tenchi Muyo. I've been pining for when CN would show a slightly less edited version of the series. I know they won't include the nudity, but perhaps this time they'll drink sake instead of "tea". Heh, that always bugged me even though it's such a moot point.
I've never even heard of the other shows, so no comment on those. :P

As far as I know, Tenchi will not be re-editted. There is however, two seperate versions of the show on TV. There is the Pioneer version, which was the first run, and then the CN version, which was all after.

The Pioneer version is about TV-PG. It has some mild language and flipping the bird, and more blood, but most of the dialogue changes and footage is pretty similar to what you see on TV now.

The CN version is basically the Pioneer version but re-editted to TV-Y7. The mild language was replaced, even lines that weren't even innuendo were changed, the blood was removed, and of course, the footage and dialogue cuts people already know from watching the series.

ASA will probably air the Pioneer version. But maybe not.

[SSJ_Gogeta]

Awesome! Now I will have to miss SNL & Madtv a little, but Yu YU, CB, and PC are gonna r0X0r j00! W00t! :)

[vegetaprinceofsayian]

thursday night AS was my thursday night i'll miss it dearly. i almost never caught the sunday night block, and i go out on saturdays **sigh** guess i'll go buy some more blanktapes

signed, pissed off at CN a.k.a. - vpof

[Jimmy Kustes]

I am unsticking this thread because we have like 50 stuck threads.