View Full Version : Ted Demme Passes On...
James Harvey
01-14-2002, 01:24 PM
from www.comingsoon.net
It became known this morning that "Blow" director Ted Demme passed away on Sunday at the age of 38.
The Associated Press says Demme was participating in a celebrity basketball game at the private Crossroads School when he was stricken, said Ted Braun, a spokesman for Santa Monica-UCLA Medical Center. Paramedics rushed Demme to the hospital's emergency room in full cardiac arrest. He was pronounced dead 20 minutes later.
Demme, a nephew of director Jonathan Demme, directed Johnny Depp and Penelope Cruz in last year's "Blow." He also helmed the 1996 all-star film "Beautiful Girls" and was a director on the 1999 television series "Action."
Who knows what wonderful things he would have done in years to come - he will be missed.
Eraserhead
01-14-2002, 03:14 PM
A shame. BLOW was one of my favorite movies last year and Demme was also responsible for the 10-year run of YO! MTV RAPS.
R.I.P.
Overkill of ASE
01-14-2002, 03:58 PM
Good riddance. The guy was borderline scum, especially when he spoke out trying to justify the main character's actions in Blow. We need less of his ilk in Hollywood, frankly.
Kal-el
01-14-2002, 05:20 PM
Originally posted by Overkill of ASE
Good riddance. The guy was borderline scum, especially when he spoke out trying to justify the main character's actions in Blow. We need less of his ilk in Hollywood, frankly.
That seems a bit harsh, doesn't it?
Nightwing
01-14-2002, 05:44 PM
Of course people are entitled to their opinions, but still, no one's ever heard of not speaking ill of the dead?? I mean people lost someone here.
Me I didn't know the guy, but I'm sure he'll be missed.
nightwing_38116
01-14-2002, 05:57 PM
Originally posted by Overkill of ASE
Good riddance. The guy was borderline scum, especially when he spoke out trying to justify the main character's actions in Blow. We need less of his ilk in Hollywood, frankly.
Boy, don't you sound like one of those PTC blowhards. I'll pretend that your post was either intended to be sarcastic or some pathetic attempt ant stiring the pot. Ted Demme was a talented director and "Blow" is an excellent film. I don't think that he was trying to justify George Jung's action in the film and in real life. He made a film about Jung's life and you can't expect him not to offer more insight into the the man's life and actions. Later.
Maxie Zeus
01-14-2002, 08:59 PM
The only thing of his I ever saw was "The Ref." And that was excellent!
38? :eek:
Karkull
01-14-2002, 09:03 PM
Crap...we lost a talent that directed The Ref and episodes of Action? There's no justice.
Ted Demme, I tip my hat to you. R.I.P.
Overkill of ASE
01-14-2002, 10:13 PM
Originally posted by nightwing_38116
Boy, don't you sound like one of those PTC blowhards. I'll pretend that your post was either intended to be sarcastic or some pathetic attempt ant stiring the pot. Ted Demme was a talented director and "Blow" is an excellent film. I don't think that he was trying to justify George Jung's action in the film and in real life. He made a film about Jung's life and you can't expect him not to offer more insight into the the man's life and actions. Later.
Oh please, get a clue. He went on the O'Reilly Factor and pretty much gave the pass to Jung's actions. Anyone who condones the actions of drug dealers should have his or her fingernails peeled off and jabbed into their eyes until they reconsider it. What a stupid movie Blow was and Demme gets no sympathy for me. Sympathy for him IS sympathy for the Devil.
killercroc
01-14-2002, 10:55 PM
Originally posted by Overkill of ASE
Oh please, get a clue. He went on the O'Reilly Factor and pretty much gave the pass to Jung's actions. Anyone who condones the actions of drug dealers should have his or her fingernails peeled off and jabbed into their eyes until they reconsider it. What a stupid movie Blow was and Demme gets no sympathy for me. Sympathy for him IS sympathy for the Devil.
I'm glad that your sharp wit and compassion are gracing this board. :rolleyes:
nightwing_38116
01-14-2002, 11:31 PM
Originally posted by Overkill of ASE
Oh please, get a clue. He went on the O'Reilly Factor and pretty much gave the pass to Jung's actions. Anyone who condones the actions of drug dealers should have his or her fingernails peeled off and jabbed into their eyes until they reconsider it. What a stupid movie Blow was and Demme gets no sympathy for me. Sympathy for him IS sympathy for the Devil.
Hmmm...you watch O'Reilly Factor and bash deceased movie directors. So, how's the old isolated cabin holding up? I here that rural Montana is cold this time of year. Please there are a lot worse vermin walking the Earth that drug dealers, Jerry Falwell springs to mind.
Karkull
01-15-2002, 10:47 AM
Originally posted by Overkill of ASE
Oh please, get a clue. He went on the O'Reilly Factor and pretty much gave the pass to Jung's actions. Anyone who condones the actions of drug dealers should have his or her fingernails peeled off and jabbed into their eyes until they reconsider it. What a stupid movie Blow was and Demme gets no sympathy for me. Sympathy for him IS sympathy for the Devil.
Demme was needed to get into Jung's head and really understand him because the film would flop if he was unable to generate sympathy for the character. As they say, "you can't hate somebody that you know well."
Overkill of ASE
01-15-2002, 05:07 PM
Originally posted by nightwing_38116
Hmmm...you watch O'Reilly Factor and bash deceased movie directors. So, how's the old isolated cabin holding up? I here that rural Montana is cold this time of year. Please there are a lot worse vermin walking the Earth that drug dealers, Jerry Falwell springs to mind.
That would be funny if it made sense.
Remember, kids, irony is funny. In order to attain irony, you have to first get a sense of reality. Random stupidity is not funny. That's why the Brak Show is a failure.
By the way, how many lives has Jerry Falwell ruined by introducing a highly-dangerous substance into the populous? Yeah, thought so.
Sarcasm is wasted these days.
"Demme was needed to get into Jung's head and really understand him because the film would flop if he was unable to generate sympathy for the character. As they say, "you can't hate somebody that you know well."
There are a lot of people who've studied Adolph Hitler and Josef Stalin's entire lives. There are also people who've met them and had a fair understanding of their personalities and lives. Outside of neo-Nazis and extreme Communists, nobody thinks either people do not deserve hatred and revilement. Please rethink your logic as it does not stand up to common acceptance.
nightwing_38116
01-15-2002, 06:25 PM
Originally posted by Overkill of ASE
By the way, how many lives has Jerry Falwell ruined by introducing a highly-dangerous substance into the populous? Yeah, thought so.
Yep, Falwell, just spreads hatred and bigotry in the name of "God". He and Pat Robert's sat on TV and said that America had 9/11 coming. He bashes gays, non-Cristians, and defended segregation. He's far worse than a movie director. :rolleyes:
All that I'm trying to say is that applauding someone's death is not right. This guy made a movie, that's all!!! It's not like he was Pablo Escobar (Columbian drug lord who was shot by the U.s. Gov. Notice, I'm shedding no tears). We should keep things in perspective. Demme never came out and spoke out for drug dealing. He was talking about a film he made.
Let me ask you this. Should we start condemming all entertainers and artists for the work that they produce? I don't support George Jung's actions at all. His self justifications of his actions are as flimsy as most of the clergy, politicians, and others who commit cowardly acts (ala Falwell). I just happen to think that "Blow" was one of the best films of last year. Demme could have gone on to make more great films.
Karkull
01-15-2002, 06:47 PM
Originally posted by Overkill of ASE
There are a lot of people who've studied Adolph Hitler and Josef Stalin's entire lives. There are also people who've met them and had a fair understanding of their personalities and lives. Outside of neo-Nazis and extreme Communists, nobody thinks either people do not deserve hatred and revilement. Please rethink your logic as it does not stand up to common acceptance.
While what those two people did was unforgivable you can also gain insight into why they did what they did by delving into their personal histories. People turn out the way they do for a reason. What I was merely pointing out that one can understand a person's motivations and feel sympathy for them based on that knowledge while still holding them accountable for their actions.
There's nothing wrong with my logic.
Maxie Zeus
01-15-2002, 10:53 PM
This warning is probably coming in too late to do any good.
What might have been a thoughtful discussion about the merits of Ted Demme's work has degenerated into trash talk about his morals. And what might have been a reasoned and courteous discussion about artistic responsibility has become completely poisoned by rancor and bile.
Put the train back on its tracks, or we'll close the thread.
Overkill of ASE
01-15-2002, 11:09 PM
Originally posted by nightwing_38116
Yep, Falwell, just spreads hatred and bigotry in the name of "God". He and Pat Robert's sat on TV and said that America had 9/11 coming. He bashes gays, non-Cristians, and defended segregation. He's far worse than a movie director. :rolleyes:
All that I'm trying to say is that applauding someone's death is not right. This guy made a movie, that's all!!! It's not like he was Pablo Escobar (Columbian drug lord who was shot by the U.s. Gov. Notice, I'm shedding no tears). We should keep things in perspective. Demme never came out and spoke out for drug dealing. He was talking about a film he made.
Let me ask you this. Should we start condemming all entertainers and artists for the work that they produce? I don't support George Jung's actions at all. His self justifications of his actions are as flimsy as most of the clergy, politicians, and others who commit cowardly acts (ala Falwell). I just happen to think that "Blow" was one of the best films of last year. Demme could have gone on to make more great films.
Wow, and as much as a scumbag as Falwell is, he still has not caused people to die and caused crime rates to soar in inner-cities. Mind your comparisons, sir.
I am not applauding Mr. Demme's death. I would rather he stopped directing altogether, but I see no great loss in his departure. Hollywood, and society as a whole, does not need his permissive attitude towards a very serious problem.
And yes, we SHOULD START CONDEMNING ARTISTS FOR WHAT THEY PRODUCE. What they produce is an offshoot of their beliefs, or else why would they do it? It can't be just for the money. Why is it that when people write books or paint pictures that are grossly offensive to Christians and caucasians they're okay, but when people write books and demonstrate against minorities and other special interest groups THEY get condemned? Condemnation should be open for anyone who produces works that is degenerative to society in general. I don't care how "Blow" portrayed Mr. Jung. I heard what he had to say on the O'Reilly Factor and he plainly said that 25 years in jail for dealing cocaine is TOO MUCH. I say it's not even close to enough.
"What might have been a thoughtful discussion about the merits of Ted Demme's work has degenerated into trash talk about his morals. And what might have been a reasoned and courteous discussion about artistic responsibility has become completely poisoned by rancor and bile. "
Excuse me, but this statement is incredibly irrelevant to everything in general. When someone is remembered they're remembered for everything they did, not just their merits. And no, there is no rancor here ('least from me), so I kindly suggest you not fling baseless warnings around.
Maxie Zeus
01-15-2002, 11:30 PM
Originally posted by Overkill of ASE
"What might have been a thoughtful discussion about the merits of Ted Demme's work has degenerated into trash talk about his morals. And what might have been a reasoned and courteous discussion about artistic responsibility has become completely poisoned by rancor and bile. "
Excuse me, but this statement is incredibly irrelevant to everything in general. When someone is remembered they're remembered for everything they did, not just their merits. And no, there is no rancor here ('least from me), so I kindly suggest you not fling baseless warnings around.
Mr. Overkill has elected to leave our company.
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But public abuse of this kind is not permitted.
And the thread is now closed.
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