Talkback: Ben 10 (Week of May 29- June 3)

[bigddan11]

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A week of all new Ben 10 episodes is in site. Join Mac and Bloo as they introduce the all new episodes all week long at 7 PM. Here's this weeks new episodes:

Monday thru Thursday at 7 PM

Monday, May 29- Episode 14- "Truth"
Tuesday, May 30- Episode 15- "Big Tick"
Wednesday, May 31- Episode 16- "Framed"
Thursday, June 1- Episode 17- "Gwen 10"


After this point, new epsiodes will continue on weekdays throughout the summer. The next new episode will be June 7, and then new episodes will show on June 13 and June 20.

[Andrew T. Hingson]

Not much to say for the new episodes but I dig the promo's BG music. Very catchy and fits the show well.

[sag_2002]

Huh. I would've thought Gwen was done with the superheroing after "Lucky Girl", but it appears she'll get another sizable chunk of the action on Thursday's ep. This'll either be a "Freaky Friday"-style episode in which Gwen and Ben switch bodies, or Gwen getting Ben's Omnitrix or a replica of it with which to do battle.

[bigddan11]

It was good seeing more hidden technology last night, but the plot was a bit cliche as a former good guy turned bad. I bet he'll turn up again somewhere in the future, and when he does, I'd hate to be Ben or his grandfather.

[havokpryde]

This ep was kinda a cheesy, how'd the whole planet revert back to its pristine state? Lousy writing, looks this ep was just to introduce a new alien. That said, tommorrow's episodes looks like the best of the bunch. Kevin with all the alien forms. And it looks like he can mix them up at will unlike Ben. Nice. All Hail Kevin Eleven.

[Andrew T. Hingson]

I thought today's was pretty average. Yesturday's was also average but had some decent plot development. Ben 10 season 2 is already starting to feel a bit more worth while than season 1. Perhaps it's catching it's stride now. That's good, it's not as preachy and less mediocre overall already and the action level has been upped a bit as well as is the violence level actually. I mean think about it... that guy was sent to where all the aliens are. That could be a very gruesome death. Of screen but still it's a bit creepy. He may also come back as an alien or something.

Kevin's return should be good. He's got quite a book of tricks and the ability to combine all the powers.

[creativerealms]

This is what I love about Kevin. With Kevin the story writers have taken the risk to make a young kid who is murderius under his own power. Who has no redeaming quailities or is even worth saving. It's ok to do this with an Adult but an even year old? What's what made the first Kevin episode so interesting and worked here too.

Spoilers.

Appearently since he drained power from Ben and the Watch Kevin has been using the alien forms so much that his human form is no longer his main form. He can only remain human for a limited time. Kevin stealing at places and blaming it on Ben, then going to the place where Ben and his family are and start killing as Ben. Sure he never actually kills but the point if he has no care for human life at all. Now he is stuck as a mutated form that is part of each of Ben's aliens as well as himself.

Blaming Ben for his problems. Hell blaming the world for his problems. Kevin was a monster before Ben met him. Yeah I feel sorry for Kevin but he is beyond rededption because he decided to give up on himself. He chose to be a monster and enjoys it. Ben tried to save Kevin last time but this time he is just trying to save himself and his name.

Anyway like the first Keven episode this is one of the best episodes in the series. Now there is a chance Kenin is alive, after all one of Ben's breaths water, some are derable and he has all their strengths now. Of course can a third Kevin episode be as good as the other Kevin episodes?

[Kagetsu]

I was getting alittle worried. The first just seemed lacking, though it did fill in a bit of background. "Tick" was almost a waste of time, felt as though they just pulled that story out of a hat.:p

Framed was better. Especially Gwens act of relief at finding Ben and him needing a leash :D clever.

[Andrew T. Hingson]

As evil and Kevin is and downright misguided... I can't help but feel sorry for him. Though he shouldn't blame anyone for his problems... what a miserable existance it would be to be a fusion of the 10 aliens.

[Gokou Ruri]

Kevin stealing at places and blaming it on Ben, then going to the place where Ben and his family are and start killing as Ben. Sure he never actually kills but the point if he has no care for human life at all. Didn't Ben say he "wasted innocent lives?" and Kevin replied "No one's innocent, they just haven't had the chance to make fun of me yet"? That sounded like he killed a few people.

[creativerealms]

Good point.

[Kagetsu]

Didn't Ben say he "wasted innocent lives?" and Kevin replied "No one's innocent, they just haven't had the chance to make fun of me yet"? That sounded like he killed a few people.
No, he said "You risked all those innocent lives just to get even with me?"

If anyone missed the popup during the show, ben10.com (http://www.cartoonnetwork.com/tv_shows/promotion_landing_page/ben10/index.html) from Cartoon Network has the Ben 10 theme downloadable. Addictive little song.

[veemonjosh]

I was expecting a "Gwen 10" opening, but whatever.

I'm liking this episode so far because of the "Alternate Universe" story.

And because of all of Grandpa Max's "Wha? Wha?" reactions every time Ben talks about the Omnitrix or Vilgax. :p

Edit: After watching this episode, I'm... confused...

[KefkaFloyd]

Boooooooooo.

The ending was lame. It was just a comic book? After the very inventive curveball of giving the Omnitrix to Grandpa, they end it like that? Damn. Otherwise, enjoyable episode.

[Bubblegum Girl]

My thoughts on the new episodes of Ben 10:

"Truth" - At last we finally know what Max used to do. I wonder if we'll meet anyone else from Max's old "Plumber" days.

"Big Tick" - Interesting to find out that the Omitrix has more than 10 aliens to command but since the Omitrix is still a protoype Ben might or might not be able to use them.

"Framed" - This episode has become my all-time favorite, it made me become a Kevin fan girl. :D Kevin was able to transform into the 10 different aliens like he was a living Omitrix, plus his twisted personality just adds to his villian level. I wonder if his mixed up form is permanent or not. Can't wait to see him again.

"Gwen 10" - This episode was interesting cause it sorta counts as an "alternate universe" episode. Though I wonder how did Ben ended up back time to begin with. Though I was upset that we didn't get to see all of the female version of the Omitrix aliens.

Can't wait for more new episodes.

[creativerealms]

Truth: nice back ground information for Max. But it leaves us with more questions. How do the Plumbers know of the Omnitrix. Did they help the races invoved in it's creation? Thats what I figure and thats why Valgax tried to wipe out Earth. Still good episode 8/10

Big Tick: No comment as I saw only the last five minutes of this episode.

Framed: I can't tell you enough how much i loved the two Kevin episodes. Kevin is perfect foil for Ben. The perfect character for Ben's evolution as a here. Unlike the other villains here is one Ben can relate to as they are close in and and in some ways personality. 9.5/10

Gwen Ten: A nice what if episode that I figure was just a dream of Ben's. The biggest difference was Valgax did not get seriously injured in this version and went after Gwen right away rather then waiting to heal first. Also points in the direction of Max being the true intended holder of the Omnitrix. 8/10.

A much better start then season one. Now to hope they don't pull as Washington BC on us soon.

[AgentSpectre]

This is what I love about Kevin. With Kevin the story writers have taken the risk to make a young kid who is murderius under his own power. Who has no redeaming quailities or is even worth saving. It's ok to do this with an Adult but an even year old? What's what made the first Kevin episode so interesting and worked here too.

Spoilers.

Appearently since he drained power from Ben and the Watch Kevin has been using the alien forms so much that his human form is no longer his main form. He can only remain human for a limited time. Kevin stealing at places and blaming it on Ben, then going to the place where Ben and his family are and start killing as Ben. Sure he never actually kills but the point if he has no care for human life at all. Now he is stuck as a mutated form that is part of each of Ben's aliens as well as himself.

Blaming Ben for his problems. Hell blaming the world for his problems. Kevin was a monster before Ben met him. Yeah I feel sorry for Kevin but he is beyond rededption because he decided to give up on himself. He chose to be a monster and enjoys it. Ben tried to save Kevin last time but this time he is just trying to save himself and his name.

Anyway like the first Keven episode this is one of the best episodes in the series. Now there is a chance Kenin is alive, after all one of Ben's breaths water, some are derable and he has all their strengths now. Of course can a third Kevin episode be as good as the other Kevin episodes?

Wow, that hurt. No redeeming qualities? Your'e entitled to your own opinon, but it's talk like that that most likely made Kevin who he is, fueling his fire.
In the first episode Kevin came off as a really nice kid. Misguided, sure, but nice. The poor kid was shoved on the streets of NY and been called a freak all of his life. If you'd had been thrown the same fate as him I'm sure your morals and logic would be screwed up too. The way I see it, for him to trust Ben and become friends with him and try and repay Ben's kindness by trying to steal that game for him and all that... Kevin has a heart after all he had been through. Kevin went power crazy and doesn't know what love really is because noone ever loved him. I may be wrong but that's just how I see it. Kevin wasn't a monster, people made him one.

[Freedom Fighter]

Season 2's a step up from Season 1, at least in the action department! I think they've worked out all the kinks now...

"Truth" (7 out of 10): Loved how they immediately reminded us of Grandpa Max's past and made more insight into it with his old partner, Phil. I'm glad Gwen feels betrayed that he kept the secret from her and Ben. Ben... well, is still trying to figure out why he can't get the right monster out half the time.

"Big Tick": Missed... will catch the encore next week.

"Framed" (7 out of 10): Already showing more continuity than 'Juniper Lee' (shame, since I like that show more), Kevin makes the second 'villain' to make a return appearance. The government guy in Lt. Steele was interesting... I bet we will see him again. And Gwen was acting like she had a thorn stuck up her butt... she was ragging on Ben to no end!

"Gwen 10" (7 out of 10): By the time this episode was over, I was instantly reminded of the Teen Titans 2nd season ep with Starfire and her 'transformation.' This is in the same vein, an out-of-this-world filler and gives a 'what if?' episode just to have a 'what if?' episode! No reason necessary! Figures Gwen would be infinitely better with the Omnitrex, but that just mean Vilgax found her sooner. And I just love when the watch comes off Gwen's wrist, misses Ben, and lands on Grandpa's hand!

[Andrew T. Hingson]

Gwen 10 was interesting and also proved what the user is wearing will determine the colors of the alien form in some cases.

Am I the only one who thinks this show would actually be a lot cooler is Grandpa Max was the one with the powers?

[Gokou Ruri]

Am I the only one who thinks this show would actually be a lot cooler is Grandpa Max was the one with the powers? I just can't help but picture Max's version of XLR8 being old and out-of-shape.

[Andrew T. Hingson]

That'd be funny. What would be funnier is he'd probably still be really fast.

[raykremer]

Shoot. I missed Monday's. Oh well, there will be reruns.

After "Big Tick", can he still be called Ben 10?

[veemonjosh]

I was instantly reminded of the Teen Titans 2nd season ep with Starfire and her 'transformation.'

Except that episode actually happened (since Starfire still had the eye-beam power in later episodes).

These four episodes already have me more hooked on this show than the first season did!

[Freedom Fighter]

Except that episode actually happened (since Starfire still had the eye-beam power in later episodes).True, though they both did have the comic book-like weird story feel to them.

[Freedom Fighter]

Okay, saw "Big Tick" for the first time today on Miguzi, and I have to say... it was very epic.

The writers could left it well alone with Ben trying to figure out how to use the 11th monster in the Omnitrex, but good for them to throw in trying to stop a creature who was going to 'purify' the Earth. That point hits home hard even more when, after cycling through the other 10 creatures, has to go to Number 11 to finally take it down.

Good show. 7.5 out of 10 for "Big Tick."

[tucsoncoyote]

Just tonight (June 8,2006) I caught the "Gwen 10" Episode and I have to say that if the Omnitrix hadn't landed on Ben's wrist, Heck Gwen would have been able to make a better heroine. But I think she started to abuse the power a little.

But then there were some distinct differences... The Alien Villain ends up very much uninjured and the two weeks where Ben has been fighting crime has been reduced to just 2 days in Gwen's story..

But it did make me realize one thing in a "What if" Scenario kiind of way.. There could have been an alternate universe like paradox where the Ben of the Gwen 10 Universe would have been able to predict the potential outcome.

But then the story took even a weirder twist when Gramps gets the device stuck on his wrist..(Now can we call Gramps, Max Ten?)

all in all a very twisted plot but deviously funny and yet serious all at the same time..

I give Gwen 10, 8 out of 10..(or is that 11?)

:coyote:

[One Radical Dude]

Just tonight (June 8,2006) I caught the "Gwen 10" Episode and I have to say that if the Omnitrix hadn't landed on Ben's wrist, Heck Gwen would have been able to make a better heroine. But I think she started to abuse the power a little.

:coyote:

Ben also had abused the privilege of using the Omnitrix on a few occasions, in at least 1-2 episodes (at least, I thought so).

I'd love to see Gwen in some of the other forms (especially Upgrade), but seeing Max go Upgrade was definitely not expected (it was awesome, though).

[Pomegranate]

I'd like to see Max in the other alien forms(esp. Four Arms, Grey Matter and XLR8) since Max stood his ground against Vilgax, who took a direct hit from a large laser beam at the end of the "Gwen 10" episode and he might have survived the direct hit, who knows.