View Full Version : who was killed in the marvelo animated universe?
Cortez2301
05-24-2006, 05:41 AM
A friend of mine who is a marvel fan just wanted to know.
Nightwing
05-24-2006, 01:16 PM
I can only speak for my particular area of expertise, which is SpidermanTAS from the early/mid 90s.
And to be frank, not that that's my name, restrictions were so complicated for that show you wouldn't be surprised to find that NO ONE from all five seasons of this show has died.
But to be thorough, not that that's my name either, there is only ONE arguably "dead" character in five seasons of SpidermanTAS, if you don't count the water-cloned Mary jane and Hydro-man from season 4. Hydro-man.
At the end of his season 2 episode, he kind of evaporated in a very dramatic (and gorgeously animated) scene.
Aside from the regulars who were dead from before the show began (Peter's parents, Uncle Ben etc) Mysterio, Spider-Carnage and the aforementioned Hydro Man died, but there's also evidence (although no proof) to suggest the likes of Venom, Carange, Dormammu and The Spot died, when they were trapped in limbo.
The Overlord
05-24-2006, 03:03 PM
Aside from the regulars who were dead from before the show began (Peter's parents, Uncle Ben etc) Mysterio, Spider-Carnage and the aforementioned Hydro Man died, but there's also evidence (although no proof) to suggest the likes of Venom, Carange, Dormammu and The Spot died, when they were trapped in limbo.
Don't forget Kingpin's dad.
Dogbert
05-24-2006, 03:14 PM
There's no reason why the death of Mary Jane Watson Parker shouldn't count just because she was cloned. Her death was arguably the most dramatic in the series. Lots of reaction from poor Peter. All the other deaths were either not confirmed (e.g., The Spot) or villains (albeit, some villains-turned-good), so it's also the only death of an innocent.
MKCP_90
05-25-2006, 01:31 AM
Prof. X died. Of course, the X-Men travelled back in time and prevented his death. But, if I remember correctly, they had to travel forward and back a couple times b/c they messed up. Anyway, not sure if this counts since they eventually prevented his death.
ifthismeansevos
05-25-2006, 10:28 AM
The father of Sue and Johnny died if I remember correctly. Mysterio and the girl also died. I can go no further.
Cortez2301
05-28-2006, 02:26 AM
King pins dad died how? They showed it?
Wonderwall
05-28-2006, 12:19 PM
There's no reason why the death of Mary Jane Watson Parker shouldn't count just because she was cloned. Her death was arguably the most dramatic in the series. Lots of reaction from poor Peter. All the other deaths were either not confirmed (e.g., The Spot) or villains (albeit, some villains-turned-good), so it's also the only death of an innocent.
Cept that she didn't die, the same( or next ) episode showed her looking around a bunch of purple and orange colors and asking where she was like an idiot. Also the last episode states that shes still alive and Spidey and Madame Web would go find her. So she doesnt count. Now the Crimson Dynamo, he bought it good, along with quite a number of innocents( based on the revie on th MAA site ). That's most likely the most death in any 90's Marvel cartoon.
Dogbert
05-28-2006, 02:28 PM
Cept that she didn't die, the same( or next ) episode showed her looking around a bunch of purple and orange colors and asking where she was like an idiot. Also the last episode states that shes still alive and Spidey and Madame Web would go find her. So she doesnt count.'Cept that wasn't Mary Jane Watson Parker. The Mary Jane in another dimension (the one that Spidey wants to save with Madame Web) is the original Mary Jane. She was missing since season three's last episode, Turning Point (IIRC). The clone Peter married was the Mary Jane that died and stayed dead. She was clearly alive and not somehow psychically connected to the original. Thus, she was a different person and her death is not mitigated by the fact that the original Mary Jane's still alive anymore than a person's death would be if their identical twin lived.
Wonderwall
05-28-2006, 04:03 PM
'Cept that wasn't Mary Jane Watson Parker. The Mary Jane in another dimension (the one that Spidey wants to save with Madame Web) is the original Mary Jane. She was missing since season three's last episode, Turning Point (IIRC). The clone Peter married was the Mary Jane that died and stayed dead. She was clearly alive and not somehow psychically connected to the original. Thus, she was a different person and her death is not mitigated by the fact that the original Mary Jane's still alive anymore than a person's death would be if their identical twin lived.
Ah true, I had forgotten about her...strange as I remember her powers and death vividly:confused: .
DarkKnight
05-30-2006, 02:40 PM
I could be mistaken, but didn't morph die in an episode of X-Men TAS??
Wonderwall
05-30-2006, 03:09 PM
I could be mistaken, but didn't morph die in an episode of X-Men TAS??
No he was still alive. But for awhile everyone thought he was dead because he got taken out in the first episode. I actually think they shoud've kept him dead, would've been more powerful in the grand scheme of things.
ifthismeansevos
05-30-2006, 07:00 PM
Am I the only one who likes Courage?
Kingpin's dad really died as far as we know but that's creepy.
Someone can confirm my post Sue's dad died if I remember correctly.
RAINMAN
05-31-2006, 06:36 AM
Kingpin killed his own dad cause his dad left him to rot in prison when he was a teen. Sue& johnny dad died protecting the FF from a bomb.
S.C.B
05-31-2006, 10:25 AM
Iron Man's dad kicked the bucket, as did the Mandarin.
Nightwing
05-31-2006, 04:55 PM
There's no reason why the death of Mary Jane Watson Parker shouldn't count just because she was cloned. Her death was arguably the most dramatic in the series. Lots of reaction from poor Peter. All the other deaths were either not confirmed (e.g., The Spot) or villains (albeit, some villains-turned-good), so it's also the only death of an innocent.
Yeah, but I thought we were talking about who was killed, as in characters that were between the ranks of main to tertiary.
I did forget about Kingpin's father in SpidermanTAS though. I overlooked it and I'm not sure how.
I think "died" is too strong a word for a cartoon with as many censorship restrictions on it as SpidermanTAS had. Mysterio (and don't forget Miranda Wilson, because that was the whole point of the scene and episode) pulled a Joker death. In other words: "They can potentially come back if stories call for it, but if they don't then the reasoning is already apparent." That sort of thing.
The Spot pulled the same deal as Mysterio (and again, don't forget Silvia, his lovely lady friend).
Same thing with Venom, Carnage, Dormamu, and The Spot. Venom, Carnage and Dormamu were powers that were too great to have walking around town like regular supervillains in future SpidermanTAS stories, like Dock Ock and Scorpion walking the streets in trenchcoats and hats. They had to go, and those were the ways that were used, respectively.
Hey, you don't have to go home, but you're too powerful so ya can't stay here!
Not that I'm knocking how Venom was used in SpidermanTAS, but the writing was too vague to imply anything, really. I think that was all up to the viewer's imagination, which was a plus because that route keeps you from telling the five year old viewer that a person was eaten alive from the inside by a scary alien monster....mentally and symbolically speaking of course... lol.
RAINMAN
06-01-2006, 03:45 AM
Well the guy who did the 90 show did say he was pushing it by having those 2 in the show but he just could not leave V&C out sense their very populare.
90'sCartoonMan
06-01-2006, 12:56 PM
Iron Man's dad kicked the bucket, as did the Mandarin.
Yeah, the Mandarin's death was pretty brutal, sliced up by barbarians or something like that.
Mystique was shattered on X-Men Evolution and came back...guess that doesn't really count. Although the Evolution finale does imply that Jean becomes the Phoenix and then she's not shown again, so maybe she's dead.
Did Blade, Black Cat, and Morbius ever kill that vampire queen lady?
Spider-Man
06-03-2006, 09:49 PM
Mystique was shattered on X-Men Evolution and came back...guess that doesn't really count. Although the Evolution finale does imply that Jean becomes the Phoenix and then she's not shown again, so maybe she's dead.
I can remember being absolutely stunned when that scene happened and then when she was brought back a few episodes later I was pretty disappointed. I know they probably couldn't have killed her off in such a fashion but I wish she wasn't brought back as she was. It still remains probably the jaw-dropping moment for me even though the impact of the scene was lessened shortly afterwards.
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