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FredVelDaphFan
05-22-2006, 04:41 PM
First off, I don't know if this should go in the HB forum or here, since it is produced by WB (or whatever the station calls itself--KWBonCW)
When i first heard about this, I thought it was a joke. I was appauled by the prospect of this show--first of all, the artwork looks like a bad cubist painting come to life and the premise goes completely against the scooby canon. Shaggy as anything but a coward? Nanotechnology without Velma? And, as you can guess, how can they do a show w/o Fred, Velma and Daphne? The last time they tried a show with just Shaggy and Scooby, the purists hated it and it bombed.
To give an analogy, Get a Clue:Scooby-Doo::Loonatics:Looney Tunes. It ain't anything like the original.

Obviously, we won't know for sure if this show will succeed, only September's premiers will tell--but until then...
Your thoughts?

Nin-Nin69
05-22-2006, 05:04 PM
First off the worst of Scooby Doo occured when the gang wasn't together. We had crappy knock offs like Scrappy and Flim Flam who bungled up the show while Daphne dragged her feet in certain episodes she was included. Not to mention the monsters were no longer guys in suits with the worst puns ever. They made the Munsters look like Leatherface and his family.

So they're going back into this bad formula, but that's not the worst of it. They're still making a cheap and crappy design. And now they've splish splashed this with Japanimation and Dynomutt for the Mystery Machine and Scooby transforming. :shrug:

Come on! It's been over 40 fricken years of this tiresome garbage. Can we get a more mature Scooby Doo already? Why not have the gang do something more Law and Order related. Tackle some real mysteries. I want to see Scooby Doo even update to a Detective Conan standard. Who wouldn't want to see the gang solve a murder mystery? How awesome would it be to tune in to the WB on a Wednesday night to watch Fred stumble over a dead corpse at a house party? Screw the kids. They have more than enough mysteries for their original target auidence with The Harlem Globetrotters.

Jyose
05-22-2006, 06:28 PM
Wow.... Scooby doo is dead now.

You can't really expect a different route for scooby doo... I mean how mature can you get when you have a talking dog, a stoner, a lesbian, and a cheerleader? Really though....a transforming scooby doo? that's just silly

CyborgRex
05-22-2006, 06:31 PM
I think Scooby Doo needs to take another 10 years or so to rest up.

Draft
05-22-2006, 06:32 PM
i agree, but it wont

god i hoep this thing gets cancelled in 3 epsisodes or less

this actualyl should go in WB cartoons forum btw

Freedom Fighter
05-22-2006, 07:15 PM
Come on! It's been over 40 fricken years of this tiresome garbage. Can we get a more mature Scooby Doo already? Why not have the gang do something more Law and Order related. Tackle some real mysteries. I want to see Scooby Doo even update to a Detective Conan standard. Who wouldn't want to see the gang solve a murder mystery? How awesome would it be to tune in to the WB on a Wednesday night to watch Fred stumble over a dead corpse at a house party? Screw the kids. They have more than enough mysteries for their original target auidence with The Harlem Globetrotters.I completely agree. I remember when "Scooby-Doo on Zombie Island" debuted... one of the strong points of that feature was the fact that they actually tackled real zombies (well, as real as zombies can be). I honestly think it would be a worthwhile experiment. They don't necessarily have to go as gory as "Detective Conan" is, as "Zombie Island" level is certainly nothing sneeze at.

As for this new Scooby series, though... it's honestly still way, way too early to tell either way if it's going to be good or bad. There's not enough to form a honest-to-goodness opinion yet.

creativerealms
05-22-2006, 08:34 PM
At least Scrappy is not in it (From what I know) so it's still far better then the worst Scooby Doo can do.

Anthonynotes
05-22-2006, 08:57 PM
Since I had to hunt down an actual description of this show (not knowing what it's going to be about); pulled from "Animantion Magazine"'s website (http://www.animationmagazine.net/article.php?article_id=5342):



Shaggy and Scooby-Doo Get A Clue! finds the sleuthing duo living in the blinged-out mansion of Shaggy's Uncle Albert and solving mysteries with the help of a transforming Mystery Machine. By ingesting some new Scooby Snacks infused nano-technology, Scooby can fly, become a towering robot or even turn himself into a giant magnet. The top-secret doggie biscuits are also highly desired by evil masterminds, so keeping them out of the wrong hands is a full-time job for our heroes. The series is exec produced by Sander Schwartz and Joseph Barbera, co-founder of Hanna-Barbera, and produced by Eric Radomski.


Ooookay. Still, will see it for myself before judging it...




You can't really expect a different route for scooby doo... I mean how mature can you get when you have a talking dog, a stoner, a lesbian, and a cheerleader? Really though....a transforming scooby doo? that's just silly


The now-tiresome "Shaggy's a stoner/Velma's a lesbian/etc." jokes aside, here's an example of a "mature" cartoon (or comic strip) that uses a mostly-lesbian cast: http://dykestowatchoutfor.com/category/strip-archive/
:-)


-B.

FredVelDaphFan
05-22-2006, 09:42 PM
Can we get a more mature Scooby Doo already? Why not have the gang do something more Law and Order related. Tackle some real mysteries. I want to see Scooby Doo even update to a Detective Conan standard. Who wouldn't want to see the gang solve a murder mystery? On the fanfiction scene, many of the older Scooby fans have written stories in which the gang confronts a murder mystery, or stories in which one of the gang gets seriously hurt/injured. Thank Goodness for fanfiction writers...er, the older, more serious ones that is.

As for putting the series to rest, I t hink it should be put to bed. they have milked it so badly that there is nothing left...except this garbage. Le't just hope they don't go "Baby Looney tunes" on us and do a "Myster Inc. Babies" SERies

FredVelDaphFan
05-22-2006, 09:45 PM
[quote=Brainatra]Since I had to hunt down an actual description of this show (not knowing what it's going to be about); pulled from "Animantion Magazine"'s website (http://www.animationmagazine.net/article.php?article_id=5342):

that description makes me want to hurl. :ack:

Nin-Nin69
05-22-2006, 10:13 PM
I completely agree. I remember when "Scooby-Doo on Zombie Island" debuted... one of the strong points of that feature was the fact that they actually tackled real zombies (well, as real as zombies can be). I honestly think it would be a worthwhile experiment. They don't necessarily have to go as gory as "Detective Conan" is, as "Zombie Island" level is certainly nothing sneeze at.

Agreed. I really hate Scooby Doo and the bad plot line they set for HB around 15 years with other shows. Yet when they recreated the cast and did Zombie Island, they were getting closer to what they should've been going for. Zombie Island was my favorite Scooby Doo anything. If they got rid of all of the Cat/Gypsy crap and tackled something a little more like Religion or Hell tied in with the zombies, then it would've been perfect. Yet for a few years after that the creators went, "Hey we can crap out a new one every year and make the plot crappier and crappier, but people will still buy it." To my amazement it worked.

And I doubt that WB/CN "can't do it" because they already did. Remember the promos they did on CN for the Blair Witch Project they made up back when CN was cool? How about Night of the Living Doo? Even making a series out of what they did in Night of the Living Doo would be 100x better than the gimics they rinse and repeat over and over. WB should stop rehashing or just put Scooby to sleep.

Bubblegum Girl
05-22-2006, 10:16 PM
When are they ever going to put down Scooby-Doo?

Lord Pumpkin
05-22-2006, 10:31 PM
Why is Joe Barbara doing this? He's going to screw Scooby in this new series, just like Loonatics did to the Loony Tunes. The Batman's ok and all. What's next, bringing back Scrappy-Doo to make it more worse? The Scooby live action movie became a fan favorite after the ultimate Scrappy bashing ever.:evil:

straw_hat
05-22-2006, 10:44 PM
I think it's about time Warner Brothers got the clue and stopped trying to milk more out of the franchise if all they can come up with is a transforming all purpose Scooby.

FredVelDaphFan
05-23-2006, 01:45 PM
If the dog hasn't already been killed, then this will definately do it. Transforming dog? Reality seems to have gone bye-bye. As horrible as the plot lines (and as predictable) as they sometimes were, at least the show still kept the people as people, rather than transforming them into superheroes.
R.I.P. Scooby
1969-2006

Nin-Nin69
05-23-2006, 01:47 PM
As horrible as the plot lines (and as predictable) as they sometimes were, at least the show still kept the people as people, rather than transforming them into superheroes.


What about Pup named Scooby Doo? That was surrounded by an imagination of a kid growing up in the 50's, but was stuck in the 80's.

RonDrakenfan17
05-23-2006, 07:45 PM
I'm going to give this show a try. Shaggy's my favorite Scooby-Doo character so I want to see what its like. Plus I want to see what type of evil will be silly enough to try and steal the scooby-snaks. Though I'll probaly throw up each time Scooy transforms into some thing :D

Daffyfan2003
05-24-2006, 04:21 PM
What about Pup named Scooby Doo? That was surrounded by an imagination of a kid growing up in the 50's, but was stuck in the 80's.

Actually, I thought "A Pup Named Scooby-Doo" was really good. Still I agree with most of what was said here. I mean, I never got into Loonatics because those weren't the classic Looney Tunes we know. I guess the same can be said for the new Scooby series. Personally, I thought the writers did a good job with "What's New, Scooby Doo." They should just make more eps of that rather than start a new series. If it ain't broke don't fix it.

Simon Trent
05-24-2006, 06:35 PM
I actually liked Scooby Doo, Where Are You?

FredVelDaphFan
05-24-2006, 08:25 PM
What about Pup named Scooby Doo? That was surrounded by an imagination of a kid growing up in the 50's, but was stuck in the 80's.
As silly as some of the things were on that show (especially Freddies dumbness and his obcession with aliens), I could accept them because the characters were only supposed to be, what, like 10 years old? The Shaggy superhero bit was always just confined to Shaggy--the others remained normal,. everyday kids.
I agree about the timeline, though--it was as if they were trying to tak ethe show back to the 50's (when the gang would have ben kids) but keep it in the 80s so as not to bore the audience. they did a pretty good job, though, all things consiered.

Anthonynotes
05-24-2006, 08:57 PM
As silly as some of the things were on that show (especially Freddies dumbness and his obcession with aliens), I could accept them because the characters were only supposed to be, what, like 10 years old?



More like about 12 years old---they attended Coolsville Junior High in the series.



The Shaggy superhero bit was always just confined to Shaggy--the others remained normal,. everyday kids.
I agree about the timeline, though--it was as if they were trying to tak ethe show back to the 50's (when the gang would have ben kids) but keep it in the 80s so as not to bore the audience. they did a pretty good job, though, all things consiered.

Hmm... if one assumes the original series took place in 1969, guess they would've been preteens in the early 60's (thus those elements of "Pup"---the doo-wop music, etc.). But given that cartoons don't age, one could go with the superhero-comics-style-"perpetual timeline", i.e. their pasts keep moving up to keep pace with the "eternal present"---thus, if they're teens in the late 80's (when "Pup" debuted), they would've been preteens in the early 80's at that point... (shrug). Like you said, seems they tried to mix both of these together (which mostly worked)...

STARTOUNZ
05-24-2006, 10:59 PM
More like about 12 years old---they attended Coolsville Junior High in the series.



Hmm... if one assumes the original series took place in 1969, guess they would've been preteens in the early 60's (thus those elements of "Pup"---the doo-wop music, etc.). But given that cartoons don't age, one could go with the superhero-comics-style-"perpetual timeline", i.e. their pasts keep moving up to keep pace with the "eternal present"---thus, if they're teens in the late 80's (when "Pup" debuted), they would've been preteens in the early 80's at that point... (shrug). Like you said, seems they tried to mix both of these together (which mostly worked)...

I wouldn't bother with the timeline considering the numberous versions of Scooby we've seen. The gang are kids and Scooby's a puppy in A Pup series. Yet in Scooby Goes Hollywood, we see the gang not much younger than their late teens in a flashback getting Scooby as a puppy in a pet store. Then there's The New SD Mysteries episode "Happy Birthday Scooby-Doo" which has yet another flashback of Scooby and Shaggy as babies.

The new Get a Clue series certainly seems more "cartoonish" than most of the previous series, which is likely why Fred, Daphne, and Velma were left out. Scooby "transforming" and other cartoon sight gags like he and Shaggy getting fat from overeating, flattened by running into a wall, or getting shrunk by some ray gun or formula were primarily done only in the solo series with Scrappy and A Pup series. Although in the What's New series, they did manage to get into a few cartoon-like gags like becoming fat or even thinned out after being locked in a steam room. The new series is certain to get in more of these sight gags.

Jyose
05-24-2006, 11:18 PM
BTW, whyto they keep casting Frank Welker as Scooby Doo? his Scooby voice stinks, I know he's the original Freddy, but Don Messick is the only Scooby >.>

Mister Intensity
05-24-2006, 11:22 PM
Scooby-Doo was never consistent in the continuity department. In the "Scooby Goes to Hollywood" version of events, the Scooby-Doo mysteries were just tv shows; Sccoby-Doo in Zombie Island invalidates the post-Scrappy era (I'm sure most people around here likes that); and "What;s New Scooby-Doo" is a bit contradictory to earlier Scooby-Doo cartoons and seems to make "A Pup Named Scooby-Doo" canonical in places. So really there's no real point in maintaining any real type of continuity beyond the mystery solving formula (and even that gets thrown out the window when it comes to the Scrappy era).

As for "Shaggy and Scooby-Doo Get a Clue," I'll wait until I see a few episodes before judging it. Besides, I hold out some hope that the rest of the gang will make special guest appearances like they did in "The New Scooby-Doo Mysteries." Besides, an "anime influenced Scooby series," which is what this show seems like from the descriptions and the one piece of artwork I've seen, makes more sense with the entire gang representing the Sentai Five archetypes (see Power Rangers, Voltron, G-Force, Teen Titans, etc.) that pops up.

We really don't know much about this series beyond the description so let's not condemn before anyone really seen anything. Hopefully we'll hear more news about this series as time goes on.

Mister Intensity

hobbyfan
05-25-2006, 10:36 AM
First off the worst of Scooby Doo occured when the gang wasn't together. We had crappy knock offs like Scrappy and Flim Flam who bungled up the show while Daphne dragged her feet in certain episodes she was included. Not to mention the monsters were no longer guys in suits with the worst puns ever. They made the Munsters look like Leatherface and his family.

(Ahem)

ABC & H-B decided to experiment with the formula by taking Fred & the girls out of the show, leaving just Shaggy, Scooby, & Scrappy. They got at least a couple of years out of that. They decided to mollify the purists by adding classic reruns to the lineup (while leaving Superfriends on the bench) at the start of the 1983-4 season, and bringing Daphne back for "New Scooby Doo Mysteries". Fred, of course, returned in "Nutcracker Scoob" that season. SF fans protested, and that series was back in time for the holidays.

1985's 13 Ghosts of Scooby-Doo added Flim Flam and Vincent Van Ghoul, but this was played more for laughs than usual. Neither Vince nor Flim have been seen since. It was Shaggy & the dogs again in three TV-movies made for syndication in 1987-8, which was around the same time "A Pup Named Scooby-Doo" debuted, so while we got to see the gang as little kids, we had to imagine Fred & Daphne conceivably could've gotten married off-camera (a la Plastic Man & Penny), and Velma was probably maid of honor or something. Of course, that would never happen now, would it? That would be a definite jump the shark moment.

So they're going back into this bad formula, but that's not the worst of it. They're still making a cheap and crappy design. And now they've splish splashed this with Japanimation and Dynomutt for the Mystery Machine and Scooby transforming. :shrug:

WB has had mixed success with flash animation. Mucha Lucha ran for about 3 years. Coconut Fred bombed out because everybody knew the real reason they created him (SpongeBob clone). This new Scooby entry could sink or swim, and right now I don't know. Still. Shaggy & Scooby being braver than ever?! The mind boggles!:D

Come on! It's been over 40 fricken years of this tiresome garbage. Can we get a more mature Scooby Doo already? Why not have the gang do something more Law and Order related. Tackle some real mysteries. I want to see Scooby Doo even update to a Detective Conan standard. Who wouldn't want to see the gang solve a murder mystery? How awesome would it be to tune in to the WB on a Wednesday night to watch Fred stumble over a dead corpse at a house party? Screw the kids. They have more than enough mysteries for their original target auidence with The Harlem Globetrotters.

First of all, it won't be 40 years for another 3 (Scooby debuted in 1969). During the 1st season of What's New, they did try more traditional whodunits, mixed in with the familiar formula of unmasking phony monsters. A procedural mystery w/Scooby is something they might've wanted to do, but the network probably nixed.

Of course, if they did that, then:

1: Mystery, Inc. would have to establish an HQ, unless they use the Mystery Machine as a rolling headquarters.

2: Most policewomen don't wear colored hose, so Daphne's signature pink/purple stockings would have to be replaced.

3: Mystery, Inc. would be co-opting Clue Club's basic format, since Velma, the computer ace, would be filling Dottie's role with the latter team.

4: Mystery, Inc. would also need a police contact/liason who'd be a regular.

Of course, the suits at WB can't think rationally with this franchise.:shrug:

Fifi Fanatic
05-25-2006, 11:26 AM
A transforming Mystery Machine? Scooby as a wanna-be Dynomutt? I am in absolute shock and awe that they could actually come up with something even WORSE than Loonatics! :crying:

Thank Gawd I have DVD's of "Scooby-Doo Where Are You?" and "A Pup Named Scooby-Doo" sitting on my shelf.....

Mister Intensity
05-25-2006, 01:22 PM
First of all, it won't be 40 years for another 3 (Scooby debuted in 1969). During the 1st season of What's New, they did try more traditional whodunits, mixed in with the familiar formula of unmasking phony monsters. A procedural mystery w/Scooby is something they might've wanted to do, but the network probably nixed.

Of course, if they did that, then:

1: Mystery, Inc. would have to establish an HQ, unless they use the Mystery Machine as a rolling headquarters.

2: Most policewomen don't wear colored hose, so Daphne's signature pink/purple stockings would have to be replaced.

3: Mystery, Inc. would be co-opting Clue Club's basic format, since Velma, the computer ace, would be filling Dottie's role with the latter team.

4: Mystery, Inc. would also need a police contact/liason who'd be a regular.

Of course, the suits at WB can't think rationally with this franchise.:shrug:

I agree with your basic sentiment. It's a new era and since there is still a fair demand for new Scooby adventures today's kids might as well have an interpretation of the character and his world that suits today's generation.

Mister Intensity

CookieS
05-25-2006, 01:41 PM
Airs Next: The CW at Saturday 10:00 AM (30 min.)
Status: New Series Premiered: September 2, 2006
Show Categories: Animation, Children

Everyone’s favorite gutless sleuths, Shaggy and his Great Dane Scooby-Doo, are back on the trail solving mysteries with the help of new nano-technology infused Scooby Snacks. The new Scooby Snacks afford our canine hero special skills like the ability to fly. Shaggy and Scooby-Doo must keep the secret of the Scooby Snacks safe from those who want them for evil purposes. Scheduled to air on The CW during a new morning block entitled, "Too Big For Your TV" on Saturday mornings later this fall.

Source: TV.com (http://www.tv.com/shaggy-and-scooby-doo-get-a-clue!/show/58777/summary.html)

Now Scooby is EXTREEEEEEEMEE! LOL. God save us all.

Peter Paltridge
05-25-2006, 02:25 PM
Come on! It's been over 40 fricken years of this tiresome garbage. Can we get a more mature Scooby Doo already? Why not have the gang do something more Law and Order related.
AHAHAHAHA! Only on Toon Zone would you hear something like that....

Scooby Doo is, and has always been, camp personified. That's the whole point. Just appreciate it for what it is and don't expect it to be something it never will be. If you want to know what a mature Scooby Doo would really look like, refer to the second episode of Family Guy with the SD cutaway. Is THAT what you want?

Nin-Nin69
05-25-2006, 03:44 PM
AHAHAHAHA! Only on Toon Zone would you hear something like that....

Scooby Doo is, and has always been, camp personified. That's the whole point. Just appreciate it for what it is and don't expect it to be something it never will be. If you want to know what a mature Scooby Doo would really look like, refer to the second episode of Family Guy with the SD cutaway. Is THAT what you want?
No I refered to Night of the Living Doo, Zombie Island, and the Blair Witch Project special they did on CN. The cast understood why they were bad and went along with it, but made it very funny while crossing over to a more mature theme. Even without the bloodshed, Night of the Living Doo would've been a great start for WS and Turner Studios to get off their asses and make something great with SD.

Daffyfan2003
05-25-2006, 06:11 PM
Wait a minute. What's CW? Is that a new network that I haven't heard of, or is that supposed to be CN? Just curious.

Space Chief
05-25-2006, 07:29 PM
The top-secret doggie biscuits are also highly desired by evil masterminds, so keeping them out of the wrong hands is a full-time job for our heroes.

http://i39.photobucket.com/albums/e172/8484/Posters/wtf.jpg

What in the name of the Flying Spaghetti Monster is the point behind this? RoboScooby is bad enough, but this makes no sense whatsoever. Is this like an episode of the Mr. T cartoon, where the bad guys would hide secrets in the dog treats? Are they trying to build a Milkbone-powered death ray? Is General Specific behind this?

I predict this will quickly get cancelled in favor of the Snakes on a Plane cartoon.



Wait a minute. What's CW? Is that a new network that I haven't heard of, or is that supposed to be CN? Just curious.

The CW is the network formed by the joining of the WB and UPN, set to debut this fall.

Game Freak 4
05-25-2006, 08:27 PM
I'm guessing they want a new change. They think the classics are corny, old, lame and obserlete. They think kids are into the stuff of the new millieunm. If you think about it, kids are growing up and maturing. They probaly stopped caring bout the classics and now think of them as kid stuff. Some people might think it's better to leave the past behind and stick to the future.

Well, that's my whole opinoin.

Anthonynotes
05-25-2006, 09:11 PM
Scooby-Doo was never consistent in the continuity department. In the "Scooby Goes to Hollywood" version of events, the Scooby-Doo mysteries were just tv shows; Sccoby-Doo in Zombie Island invalidates the post-Scrappy era (I'm sure most people around here likes that); and "What;s New Scooby-Doo" is a bit contradictory to earlier Scooby-Doo cartoons and seems to make "A Pup Named Scooby-Doo" canonical in places. So really there's no real point in maintaining any real type of continuity beyond the mystery solving formula (and even that gets thrown out the window when it comes to the Scrappy era).


Guess so, but someone *asked* re: 60's/80's elements in "Pup", so that's the answer I came up with... :-)

Recall a few years ago posting on here (on someone's dare) a "timeline" of sorts for "Scooby Doo", simply listing the various series in order plus a few "major" events (the flashbacks to Scooby and Scrappy's births, etc.). Along those broad lines, things fell pretty neatly in place. Yeah, so I had a lot of time to kill... :-p

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As for "Shaggy and Scooby-Doo Get a Clue," I'll wait until I see a few episodes before judging it. Besides, I hold out some hope that the rest of the gang will make special guest appearances like they did in "The New Scooby-Doo Mysteries." Besides, an "anime influenced Scooby series," which is what this show seems like from the descriptions and the one piece of artwork I've seen, makes more sense with the entire gang representing the Sentai Five archetypes (see Power Rangers, Voltron, G-Force, Teen Titans, etc.) that pops up.
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What's a "Sentai Five" archetype? (For those of us who aren't anime fans....)

-B.

straw_hat
05-25-2006, 09:37 PM
Ever heard of Power Rangers then? Super Sentai is live action based featuring a team of super heroes who fight villains and monsters using giant robots. I can't imagine WB taking Scooby Doo in this route without it being horribly stupid.

I've seen the artwork and I've read the description and I really don't see this "anime-influnce" at all.

Daffyfan2003
05-26-2006, 07:23 AM
http://i39.photobucket.com/albums/e172/8484/Posters/wtf.jpg

What in the name of the Flying Spaghetti Monster is the point behind this? RoboScooby is bad enough, but this makes no sense whatsoever. Is this like an episode of the Mr. T cartoon, where the bad guys would hide secrets in the dog treats? Are they trying to build a Milkbone-powered death ray? Is General Specific behind this?

I predict this will quickly get cancelled in favor of the Snakes on a Plane cartoon.


The CW is the network formed by the joining of the WB and UPN, set to debut this fall.

Wow! So we won't have just regular WB or regular UPN this fall? I'm surprised I didn't know about this before.

Anyway, what people mentioned about continuity, I have to agree with most of what was said. After all, I remember a "What's New Scooby-Doo?" ep where Velma was terrifyed of clowns. She saw clowns in previous series before and she was fine. As for "Pup Named Scooby-Doo," well you have to except it the way it is, like "Muppet Babies." That whole show was sort of a product of Miss Piggy's imagination. Other sources indicate that the Muppets couldn't have known each other as babies. I guess it's sort of the same with PNSD, true the gang wouldn't have grown up in the 80s and it was kind of strange to see Fred being an idiot and Daphne being selfish, but I guess they wanted to make those changes to keep the show fresh. You could lose sleep trying to look for continuity there. Though one thing I've realized is that after this series, Fred seemed to loosen up more. He always seemed like quite a stiff in the first Scooby series, but after "A Pup Named Scooby-Doo," they seemed to give him more of a sense of humor. He wasn't as dumb or anything, just a bit goofier. More of a free-spirit. Another continuity error was in "Scooby Goes Hollywood," a flashback shows the gang buying Scooby at a pet store. Most sources say that Shaggy had Scooby since he was a puppy. Well, that's all I'll say for now. Just thought I'd put in my two cents.

Mister Intensity
05-26-2006, 07:43 AM
Guess so, but someone *asked* re: 60's/80's elements in "Pup", so that's the answer I came up with... :-)

Recall a few years ago posting on here (on someone's dare) a "timeline" of sorts for "Scooby Doo", simply listing the various series in order plus a few "major" events (the flashbacks to Scooby and Scrappy's births, etc.). Along those broad lines, things fell pretty neatly in place. Yeah, so I had a lot of time to kill... :-p

>>
As for "Shaggy and Scooby-Doo Get a Clue," I'll wait until I see a few episodes before judging it. Besides, I hold out some hope that the rest of the gang will make special guest appearances like they did in "The New Scooby-Doo Mysteries." Besides, an "anime influenced Scooby series," which is what this show seems like from the descriptions and the one piece of artwork I've seen, makes more sense with the entire gang representing the Sentai Five archetypes (see Power Rangers, Voltron, G-Force, Teen Titans, etc.) that pops up.
<<

What's a "Sentai Five" archetype? (For those of us who aren't anime fans....)

-B.

Basically, when you see a five person super team in cartoon, they are usually characterized like this (although there are variations): the daring leader, the lone wolf who usually bust heads with the leader, the smart one, the cute one, and the comic relief. These characterizations could easily apply to the Scooby Gang.

Mister Intensity

Anthonynotes
05-26-2006, 07:51 AM
Basically, when you see a five person super team in cartoon, they are usually characterized like this (although there are variations): the daring leader, the lone wolf who usually bust heads with the leader, the smart one, the cute one, and the comic relief. These characterizations could easily apply to the Scooby Gang.

Mister Intensity

I see, thanks...

Re: Power Rangers: Yes, I've heard of them (unfortunately). :-)

-B.