COOL animation ebay item

[Matthew Hunter]

http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=1060844524
I wish I could afford this, it's a nice piece.
-Matthew

[Jack]

That is a great piece! Something I always wondered about, though. Why do so many model sheets show just the character's head shaded in? Was it so that the expressions would read better to the animators on the model?

Who drew the model sheets in the later 40s and 50s, BYW?


Jack :D

[Thad Komorowski]

Aw, that's cute. For some reason, I have a weakness for kittens....:) The same model sheet appears in "50 Greatest Cartoons" book.




-Thad

[Tintin]

Cool your new Woody avatar Thad! :)

[Sogturtle]

The Turtle had already drooled over that piece (would go nicely with my original Sam Sheepdog, and recent Bear Family model sheet) ;)

For the complete antithesis of fuzzy, furry adorable little Pussyfoot then how about...

The SEAHAG!!!!

http://members.aol.com:/csurico537/hag.jpg (to see it)


http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=1061840234 (to BUY it...)

[Thad Komorowski]

Is that supposed to be Mr. Magoo on stilts and in a drag? :p





-Thad

[Sogturtle]

Originally posted by Thad K
Is that supposed to be Mr. Magoo on stilts and in a drag? :p





-Thad

Nope, nose is tooooo craggy :)

[Jack]

Originally posted by Sogturtle
The SEAHAG!!!!
:eek:

Why did they take the same image and just repeat it over and over in different sizes?


Jack :eek: :eek: :eek:

[DR. BELCH]

A little-known Popeye character, I believe--not from the Fleischer or even Famous eras, but sometime in the seventies...truth be told, I thought it looked like Eustace in Courage the Cowardly Dog without glasses....

[Sogturtle]

Originally posted by DR. BELCH
A little-known Popeye character, I believe--not from the Fleischer or even Famous eras, but sometime in the seventies...truth be told, I thought it looked like Eustace in Courage the Cowardly Dog without glasses....

Actually Br'er Belch (excuse me, was watching "Song Of The South" yesterday ;) ). The Sea Hag figured quite prominently in the KFS (King Feature's Syndicate) version of Popeye from the very early Sixties (which is almost soitenly when this unique piece is from. Now as to which cartoon studio of the several employed by them (Paramount, UPA, Jack Kinney & Format, Halas & Bathelor etc.) did the bulk of the Sea Hags (if any one single studio) is anybody's guess. My recollection is that the bulk of them were from the Jack Kinney & Format bunch. Buuuuuut some of them must have been from the others. I could of course be wrong...

To be honest the Sea Hag was vastly more frightening of a villain than Brutus was in the series (and she was a near dead-ringer for my paternal grand-mother!!! No wonder I was scared to death of grandma as a little kid... :bosko:

P.S. The KFS Popeyes played non-stop here where I live from the early 1960's clear up through the end of 1989!!!

[J Lee]

It definitely looks like a Kinney unit drawing -- their layouts tended to squash down the front of both the Sea Hag and Popeye's faces, while the Paramount layouts used a less "craggly" looking design (none of the other units doing the KFS ones, except possibly Deitch with his Prague crew, would have done any drawing that stayed that close to the original design).

The Kinney/Format Films unit was the main one doing the KFS Popeyes with the Sea Hag, though some of the other units did use her occassionally, and Seymour Kneitel came up with a writen/directed story that featured the Sea Hag, Poopdeck Pappy and the Jeep all in the same cartoon.

[Bobby B]

Originally posted by J Lee
) and Seymour Kneitel came up with a writen/directed story that featured the Sea Hag, Poopdeck Pappy and the Jeep all in the same cartoon.


Actualy, "Myskery Melody" was adapted from a comic strip storyline with the same name from 1936. (And Alice the Goon and Toar the caveman were in the original story too.)

[Sogturtle]

Originally posted by Bobby B



Actualy, "Myskery Melody" was adapted from a comic strip storyline with the same name from 1936. (And Alice the Goon and Toar the caveman were in the original story too.)

"Myskery Melody" was the toon with the haunting song that enchanted Poopdeck Pappy to return to his long-ago "love"... Correct??

[J Lee]

"Myskery Melody" was the toon with the haunting song that enchanted Poopdeck Pappy to return to his long-ago "love"... Correct??

Yep, "Ruby of the Sea" who was really the disguised Sea Hag.

Bobby, thanks for the background on that short. was wondering why the plot was so complex, especially for a KFS Popeye. The fact it was originally a Segar idea explains it.

[Sogturtle]

Originally posted by J Lee
"Myskery Melody" was the toon with the haunting song that enchanted Poopdeck Pappy to return to his long-ago "love"... Correct??

Yep, "Ruby of the Sea" who was really the disguised Sea Hag.

Bobby, thanks for the background on that short. was wondering why the plot was so complex, especially for a KFS Popeye. The fact it was originally a Segar idea explains it.

Yeah John and the story's Segar origin would also explain why it was much better than a lot of the Jack Kinney/Format Popeyes!! Buuuuut it was still disturbing to this (former) child's little mind... Hey, if you can't trust your beautiful former love, who can you trust...?? :( :( ;)

[J Lee]

Acutally, the plot for "Myskery Melody" would have made for a good Fleischer two-reeler (Willard Bowsky would have had a field day making the Sea Hag as menacing as possible); and since it was done by Segar in the mid-1930s, it was certainly avaialable to the Fleischer staff.

If they had done it, say in 1939 instead of the "Aladdin" two-reeler that was produced, the story could have been fully fleshed out in a way the very short KFS Popeyes didn't allow for. As it is, it now reminds me of a lot of the "Star Trek" spinoff episodes during the Rick Berman era -- 95 percent of the film time is spend building up the plot, leaving only five percent or so of time for a very rushed (and unsatisfying) conclusion.