sonic x was the best sonic sereis ever!!! IMO

[icerbreaker]

after seeing the end i thought it was the best. i have seen all the sonic series that were shown in america. i felt that none of them were not better than sonic x. sonic x was even better than the SATam version. sonic x really brought all the sonic x characters to their roots. what i don't get is how japan turn this series down. it was first sonic series that showed super sonic and shadow in action. we also got to see knuckles (my favorite character) in a cartoon series. lets face this cartoon had good storylines and action. hey guys what was your favorite episode of sonic x?

[Conekiller]

It also forcused on many lame human characters who feel more than Mary-sue ish.

[Dark Fact]

Considering that Sonic X is already done. Where does 4KidsTV go from here?

[Master Moron]

I don't know if the show was any good, but the dub sucked.

[Nel]

Sonic has been the franchise I've pledged allegiance to since I was 3, but this series overall just wasn't that great for me. May have been nostalgia for SatAM, or that I hated the over emphasis on humans in this series. I really only watched for the Sonic Adventure arcs, though. But hey, if you enjoyed it, more power to ya.:D

[Lord Dalek]

Considering that Sonic X is already done. Where does 4KidsTV go from here?Where do you think?

[Go-chin]

Where do you think?

Off to find another franchise to massacre, I'm guessing.

[Lord Dalek]

Off to find another franchise to massacre, I'm guessing.I was referring to something you flush.

[LordTerminal]

Is Sonic REALLY that big of ratings puller for them? I thought they relied mostly on TMNT for that situation.

[RomanMack]

Is Sonic REALLY that big of ratings puller for them? I thought they relied mostly on TMNT for that situation.Their girl shows (Bratz, Winx) are the ratings grabbers for that block.

[SapphirePrima]

this show has awful VO work

[Beat]

All must bow before Urkel voiced Sonic!

4Kids VA's can't compete.

[HellCat]

I think Sonic X may have been a case of too little too late. Alot of what hurt the series (namely Chris and co) wasn't removed until they started the post-52 Metarex stuff. There's little to distinguish Sonic X from all the others "Normal boy becomes buddy with strange creature" shows and taking the attitude with the new characters that if they're then the existing cast had to love them only alienated the fanbase.

[Funkmasta Zeph]

Another case of godawful lame cartoons off kickass old school games with ten times the artistic integrity.

Kirby...
Mario...
Zelda...
And Sonic..

[RomanMack]

I actually didn't think Kirby was too bad.

But... I can understand why people wouldn't like it.

[Zinal]

I would of like that show, if it had better VA like Ryan Drummond.

[Undrave]

I don't see what is everybody's beef with the human characters... okay sometimes they were a tad too prominent in the story but the audiance needed some new characters to get into the world of Sonic.

Plus who didn't get a kick out of Sonic outrunning the entire police force, INCLUDING the Speed Team in the very first episode? That was awesome.

I didn't hate any of the humans, they were neat characters with good personality, off course I liked some better than others but still...

[RAINMAN]

after seeing the end i thought it was the best. i have seen all the sonic series that were shown in america. i felt that none of them were not better than sonic x. sonic x was even better than the SATam version. sonic x really brought all the sonic x characters to their roots. what i don't get is how japan turn this series down. it was first sonic series that showed super sonic and shadow in action. we also got to see knuckles (my favorite character) in a cartoon series. lets face this cartoon had good storylines and action. hey guys what was your favorite episode of sonic x?


ther are people who watch STAM that air on sta morining 10 years ago that would greatly disagree whit you.

[LordTerminal]

Those people are nerds anyway. SATAM Sonic was great, but I hardly agree with those type of people saying it should be regarded as the only true Sonic continuity.

[nld200xyz]

I prefer Adventures of Sonic the Hedgehog. Aside being random and Sonic being a womanizer, it was more true to the games than all the others. Sonic SatAM, on the other hand, had a much more interesting plot. Sonic Underground was also cool, but it was so weird. Their weapons were musical instruments and Sonic's a prince! LAME! The only really cool thing about that was Manic. He was awesome.

Sonic X, as I know it, has more character developement, but it lacks a girlfriend for Sonic, and thanks to 4kids, Rouge and Knuckles are no longer a likely couple. Oh, and I miss Sally. At least in the old Sonic shows, Sonic HAD a girlfriend! Or a potential girlfriend. I find it sad that they cancelled Sonic SatAM right after Sonic and Sally finally kissed! I also find it sad that it was never revealed whether Sonic would find his mother or not in Sonic Underground because, surprise surprise, that was also cancelled. Hell, so far, Sonic X is possibly the only one with a plot that stands a chance at making it to the end. But, really, aside from Shadow, Sonic X isn't a huge improvement on the series.

Also, Sonic Underground was Knuckles' first TV debut, but the Sonic movie was his first appearance outside the games.

[HellCat]

I prefer Adventures of Sonic the Hedgehog. Aside being random and Sonic being a womanizer, it was more true to the games than all the others. Sonic SatAM, on the other hand, had a much more interesting plot. Sonic Underground was also cool, but it was so weird. Their weapons were musical instruments and Sonic's a prince! LAME! The only really cool thing about that was Manic. He was awesome.

Sonic X, as I know it, has more character developement, but it lacks a girlfriend for Sonic, and thanks to 4kids, Rouge and Knuckles are no longer a likely couple. Oh, and I miss Sally. At least in the old Sonic shows, Sonic HAD a girlfriend! Or a potential girlfriend. I find it sad that they cancelled Sonic SatAM right after Sonic and Sally finally kissed! I also find it sad that it was never revealed whether Sonic would find his mother or not in Sonic Underground because, surprise surprise, that was also cancelled. Hell, so far, Sonic X is possibly the only one with a plot that stands a chance at making it to the end. But, really, aside from Shadow, Sonic X isn't a huge improvement on the series.

Also, Sonic Underground was Knuckles' first TV debut, but the Sonic movie was his first appearance outside the games.

What do you call Amy? Besides, it's Sonic Team's official stance that Sonic works better single and I agree. Better that then the furry soap opera that is Archie.

[Beat]

What do you call Amy?
Useless baggage on a franchise?

In fact, the same goes for every female character introduced during the Dreamcast era and beyond. Useless, useless, useless. If Sonic Team knows what's good for the franchise, we'll hopefully be seeing a housecleaning of these useless characters.

[nld200xyz]

What do you call Amy? Besides, it's Sonic Team's official stance that Sonic works better single and I agree. Better that then the furry soap opera that is Archie.
Amy's not a real girlfriend. She wants to be, but she's not.

[HellCat]

Amy's not a real girlfriend. She wants to be, but she's not.

True, but Sonic X certainly wasn't shy about entertaining the notion.

[TenderArchu]

I totally agree with u, sonic x is the best series ever...

[Undrave]

Useless baggage on a franchise?

In fact, the same goes for every female character introduced during the Dreamcast era and beyond. Useless, useless, useless. If Sonic Team knows what's good for the franchise, we'll hopefully be seeing a housecleaning of these useless characters.

What do you mean useless? Amy kicks butt! All the characters in Sonic proved they could hold up their own in a fight against minor enemies. I don't see what's wrong with wanting to populate your universe with interesting characters.

And wasn't Sonic X inspired by the Sonic Adventure serie? At least the first two seasons?

[ChibiGoku]

What do you call Amy? Besides, it's Sonic Team's official stance that Sonic works better single and I agree. Better that then the furry soap opera that is Archie.

Actually, in the japanese version of Sonic X, apparently Sonic proposed to Amy. So....

[HellCat]

Actually, in the japanese version of Sonic X, apparently Sonic proposed to Amy. So....
*spits out drink*...To war!

Ultimately though, Sonic X isn't canon to the game universe. In that it's clear she scares the crap out of him.

[Undrave]

Yeah Amy is scary XD is Sonic scared of her in the game? :p

[HellCat]

Yeah Amy is scary XD is Sonic scared of her in the game? :p

In Sonic Adventure, his eyes bug out, his spines stand on end and they play this brief note like he's just seen a psycho killer. In Sonic Battle he tells Tails and Emerl to distract her whilst he legs it.

[Undrave]

:lol:

Still she's not as scary as Lydia hehehe...

It's clear that Sonic is a bit disturbed at all the attention she's giving him, but there is hint that he at least cares about her, as a friend if nothing more. I guess he just wished she wasn't so clingy.

[Goodfellow]

I completely disagree. Sonic X is lame. The music sucked, as did the voice acting. However, compared to Sonic Underground and the USA Sonic series, it was great, but compared to the one on ABC Sats, it sucked major eggs. Unlike the others, the ABC one actually had Robotnick portrayed as evil and dark.

[Undrave]

Blame 4Kids for the music and acting, not Sonic X -.-

And just because Dr. Eggman had some depth and wasn't a 'yuck yuck I'm evil!' villain doesn't make him a bad character.

[Funkmasta Zeph]

Useless baggage on a franchise?

In fact, the same goes for every female character introduced during the Dreamcast era and beyond. Useless, useless, useless. If Sonic Team knows what's good for the franchise, we'll hopefully be seeing a housecleaning of these useless characters.

Actually, I think Amy came out before the Dreamcast era....on Sonic CD.

[ChibiGoku]

Actually, I think Amy came out before the Dreamcast era....on Sonic CD.

Even before that. Her first appearance was Snic CD, but she was planned even before that.

[Beat]

Even before that. Her first appearance was Snic CD, but she was planned even before that.

That doesn't make her any less useless to the franchise in general.

I'm hoping that the PS3 Sonic dumps a lot of the characters like Rouge, the Chaotix guys, Cream, etc...

[ChibiGoku]

That doesn't make her any less useless to the franchise in general.



She was part of the original franchies, and she was ALOT more useful in the original canon universe. (She actually did some useful things in the offical manga back in 1992/3)

[ChaosMeowth]

While I agree that Sonic X is the best long running series so far, I doubt anything will ever beat the Sonic OVA.

[Yash]

I'm hoping that the PS3 Sonic dumps a lot of the characters like Rouge, the Chaotix guys, Cream, etc...
At the very least, Amy could be replaced by Princess Elise.

Or not. That'd be sick, yo.

[The Fullmetal]

The only good thing about Sonic X was that kid's mom. Damn, she was hot. :eek:

[Undrave]

The only good thing about Sonic X was that kid's mom. Damn, she was hot. :eek:

HAHAHAHAHA

Not the only good thing but yeah she was :p

[Goodfellow]

Blame 4Kids for the music and acting, not Sonic X -.-

And just because Dr. Eggman had some depth and wasn't a 'yuck yuck I'm evil!' villain doesn't make him a bad character.

Oh no no, don't get me wrong, he was cool, and I did love his english voice, but the best portrayal of Robotnick I have ever seen was in the ABC toon.

[RAINMAN]

Sonic is a lonley. I think it foolish how toons&archie try to make him be this player. And the girl hes hook up whit in the comics is more annoying then army.

[TherealRNO]

Those people are nerds anyway. SATAM Sonic was great, but I hardly agree with those type of people saying it should be regarded as the only true Sonic continuity.

“Sonic SatAM” is loosely based on the old Archie comics before the current ones, somewhat like how the “Teen Titans” cartoon is based on the old Wolfman/Perez’ “New Teen Titans” comics of the 80’s.

Also similar is the relationships between Sonic & Sally and Robin & Starfire (in the comics, Dick Grayson and Koriand’r). Like Robin and Starfire, in their respective cartoon and the comics thereof, Sonic and Sally were shown as childhood sweethearts.

As Wikipedia points out, this usually ended “with Sonic usually running away or changing the subject whenever confronted with the possibility of a romance (although Sally was known to bashfully dodge the issue herself).” This was translated into the cartoon in the last episode where the two proclaim their love and how cliché..seal it with a kiss.

Fast forward over time and the two—like Robin and Starfire—are set to be married. But, both respective couples would face opposition. Whilst it was Evil Avatar Raven (under Trigon’s influence) who ruined the Dick/Kori wedding, in Sonic and Sally case, it was a mix of factors.

This was because Sally’s father, King Acorn, was being manipulated into deciding Sally’s future by a traitorous Anti-Antoine (he was working for the revived Dr. Robotnik—who nows calls himself Dr. Eggman) and the Source of All—a mystical source whose only purpose is to pre-arrange futures for royal families. In the end, though, Sonic broke the control and both he & Sally were given King Acorn’s blessing, just as Dick & Kori defeated Evil Raven and became ever closer.

At this point, one would think that both couples would live “happily ever after”, right? Wrong! At this point in time, both Dick and Sonic had pressing matters to attended to (both regarding saving their respective citizens and the cities thereof), leaving Kori and Sally alone—again. Both would pray that their love interests would return, and as predicted by cliché comic workings, both do return. Unfortunately, all is not as it seems.

This is because while Dick has fallen (again) for Barbra “Batgirl/Oracle” Gordon, Sonic is (again) sent on another mission. Out of fear of losing their loves, each gives their propspective lovers an ultimatum.

In the Titans’ case, Dick (unfortunately) chose Barbra over Kori (yet, Kori still loves Dick), and in Sonic and Sally’s case, it was for Sonic to either:


Stay and rule with Sally
Continue on as the adventure-loving hedgehog he’s known for
Given Sonic’s obvious love of adventure, we can all assume Sonic’s answer, and it’s at this point that the current comics (from the anime, “Sonic X”, is based) takes over. In a very awkward situation, Sonic is sent (ironically by Sally herself) to command a renegade team of fighters to fight Dr. Eggman. This team would consist of Sonic, Miles “Tails” Prower, and of course, Amy Rose—who has a keen interest in a certain blue hedgehog, who is, at the moment, torn between having feelings for Sally & being in conflict with himself over his relationship with Amy.

To Sonic, Amy’s an annoyance…Isn’t she? But, a recurring dream Sonic keeps having would suggest otherwise. In said dream (which might become reality), both Sonic and Amy are stranded together & it is then that the two would share a few tender moments and eventually give into the hormones that accompany relationships.

In a move that does NOT seem like the loveable Sonic we’ve come to known from “SatAM”, Sonic is said to keep this incident a secret from Sally, fearing that his relationship with the Princess would be severed forever if she were to find any of this out.

In the end, it is my hope that Sally DOES find out, giving a certain “blue streak that speeds by” the ultimate choice of who he wants to be with. If he chooses Amy (whom I loathe intently) then so be it, but if he chooses to stop running around fast enough to pick Sally, then so be it also.

In the end, the ball’s in Sonic’s court and it’s up to him who he truly wants, and once chosen, it’s then up to either respective party (Amy or Sally; whomever isn’t chosen) to either:


Accept his choice and be mature about it
Deny Sonic’s existance and hate the hedgehog for a long period of time
Be broken into pieces once Sonic’s made his decision

[Beat]

And that's exactly why Sega should dump all the accessory hero characters except Tails and Knuckles. They're just weighing Sonic down! (Shadow has potential, but NO GUNS, please)

[TherealRNO]

And that's exactly why Sega should dump all the accessory hero characters except Tails and Knuckles. They're just weighing Sonic down! (Shadow has potential, but NO GUNS, please) And bring back Sally. At least with her, Sonic can be sure of himself, for he DOES still love her, BUT he prefers to be in the action, than sitting in some boring palace all day...;)

[Beat]

No, no, a million times no.

Sonic does not need a love interest. He worked best with Tails as a superfast duo. He does not need a furry princess or a fangirl hedgehog to do anything. All he needs is a lot of clear road and an excuse to kick Eggman's butt.

There's a reason the Sonic series fell off after it moved to next-gen. I blame a lot of things, and overly convulted casts is right up there with camera angles of death.

[HellCat]

Please use a bigger font.

[TherealRNO]

Please use a bigger font. Fixed. In regards to Sonic not having a love interest, though I agree that the removal of unneeded characters could spur a love for Sonic again, I think that Sonic should've stayed true to its ORIGNIAL comic format (and that includes Sally) that "SatAM" was based from, seeing as, IMO, Sonic SatAM was the best out of all Sonic series, because not only did it look cool, but it conveyed the comic backstory excellently (hell, it rivaled the FREAKIN' Mighty Morphin Power Rangers, so that had to be an accomplishment).

[HellCat]

Fixed. In regards to Sonic not having a love interest, though I agree that the removal of unneeded characters could spur a love for Sonic again, I think that Sonic should've stayed true to its comic format (and that includes Sally).

I'm sorry, but for my money the US comics are a bad mix of furry soap opera/fanservice.

[TherealRNO]

I'm sorry, but for my money the US comics are a bad mix of furry soap opera/fanservice.It was MADE in the US (by SEGA/Archie) and it should've STAYED there, NOT becoming an anime-esque rip-off for today's softcore generation to feed off of.

[LordTerminal]

“Sonic SatAM” is loosely based on the old Archie comics before the current ones, somewhat like how the “Teen Titans” cartoon is based on the old Wolfman/Perez’ “New Teen Titans” comics of the 80’s.

Also similar is the relationships between Sonic & Sally and Robin & Starfire (in the comics, Dick Grayson and Koriand’r). Like Robin and Starfire, in their respective cartoon and the comics thereof, Sonic and Sally were shown as childhood sweethearts.

As Wikipedia points out, this usually ended “with Sonic usually running away or changing the subject whenever confronted with the possibility of a romance (although Sally was known to bashfully dodge the issue herself).” This was translated into the cartoon in the last episode where the two proclaim their love and how cliché..seal it with a kiss.

Fast forward over time and the two—like Robin and Starfire—are set to be married. But, both respective couples would face opposition. Whilst it was Evil Avatar Raven (under Trigon’s influence) who ruined the Dick/Kori wedding, in Sonic and Sally case, it was a mix of factors.

This was because Sally’s father, King Acorn, was being manipulated into deciding Sally’s future by a traitorous Anti-Antoine (he was working for the revived Dr. Robotnik—who nows calls himself Dr. Eggman) and the Source of All—a mystical source whose only purpose is to pre-arrange futures for royal families. In the end, though, Sonic broke the control and both he & Sally were given King Acorn’s blessing, just as Dick & Kori defeated Evil Raven and became ever closer.

At this point, one would think that both couples would live “happily ever after”, right? Wrong! At this point in time, both Dick and Sonic had pressing matters to attended to (both regarding saving their respective citizens and the cities thereof), leaving Kori and Sally alone—again. Both would pray that their love interests would return, and as predicted by cliché comic workings, both do return. Unfortunately, all is not as it seems.

This is because while Dick has fallen (again) for Barbra “Batgirl/Oracle” Gordon, Sonic is (again) sent on another mission. Out of fear of losing their loves, each gives their propspective lovers an ultimatum.

In the Titans’ case, Dick (unfortunately) chose Barbra over Kori (yet, Kori still loves Dick), and in Sonic and Sally’s case, it was for Sonic to either:

Stay and rule with Sally
Continue on as the adventure-loving hedgehog he’s known forGiven Sonic’s obvious love of adventure, we can all assume Sonic’s answer, and it’s at this point that the current comics (from the anime, “Sonic X”, is based) takes over. In a very awkward situation, Sonic is sent (ironically by Sally herself) to command a renegade team of fighters to fight Dr. Eggman. This team would consist of Sonic, Miles “Tails” Prower, and of course, Amy Rose—who has a keen interest in a certain blue hedgehog, who is, at the moment, torn between having feelings for Sally & being in conflict with himself over his relationship with Amy.

To Sonic, Amy’s an annoyance…Isn’t she? But, a recurring dream Sonic keeps having would suggest otherwise. In said dream (which might become reality), both Sonic and Amy are stranded together & it is then that the two would share a few tender moments and eventually give into the hormones that accompany relationships.

In a move that does NOT seem like the loveable Sonic we’ve come to known from “SatAM”, Sonic is said to keep this incident a secret from Sally, fearing that his relationship with the Princess would be severed forever if she were to find any of this out.

In the end, it is my hope that Sally DOES find out, giving a certain “blue streak that speeds by” the ultimate choice of who he wants to be with. If he chooses Amy (whom I loathe intently) then so be it, but if he chooses to stop running around fast enough to pick Sally, then so be it also.

In the end, the ball’s in Sonic’s court and it’s up to him who he truly wants, and once chosen, it’s then up to either respective party (Amy or Sally; whomever isn’t chosen) to either:

Accept his choice and be mature about it
Deny Sonic’s existance and hate the hedgehog for a long period of time
Be broken into pieces once Sonic’s made his decision

Except that SatAM went down it's own route with articles borrowed from the comics (and I'm guessing there's a bit of vice-versa in there too. We got the whole Julian Kintobor thing in the show before the comics if I remember correctly.) and technically, the comics were responsible for both SatAM AND AOSTH (Hence the first issues containing not only Swatbots from SatAM but Scratch, Grounder, and Coconuts.) but that's deviating from my original arguement.

Fact is, SatAM's continuity doesn't go beyond what the comic books' continuity implies nowadays. Robotic was thrown into the same dimension Ixis Naugus and King Acorn were trapped in at the end, (although we weren't supposed to know that until the beginning of Season 3 which never made it beyond the production of one script that the entire Internet has seen by now.) not chucked through some wormhole created from his ultimate anhillation thing backfiring. There was no alternate reality Robo Robotnik whole later implanted his mind into a robot version of his Eggman body in SatAM, and above all else: Sonic NEVER gets into that over the top romance confliction in the show. This is why I avoid those things nowadays. They aren't worth it anymore. And that's also why I can't stand those SatAM worshippers.

[HellCat]

It was MADE in the US (by SEGA/Archie) and it should've STAYED there, NOT becoming an anime-esque rip-off for today's softcore generation to feed off of.

Sonic originated in Japan. The games came first, then when it was a hit in the West we got comics like Archie and Sonic the Comic. You can't stand there and act like Archie created Sonic because they didn't. Besides, Sonic has referenced alot of Japanese pop culture including Dragon Ball.

[TherealRNO]

"There was no alternate reality Robo Robotnik whole later implanted his mind into a robot version of his Eggman body in SatAM,"

No, but he became Eggman in the anime-ripoff "Sonic X" did he not? As such, it is IMPLIED what happens via the comics, as "SatAM" was canned before the third season ever actually got off the ground.

"and above all else: Sonic NEVER gets into that over the top romance confliction in the show."

No, but by the way Sonic and Sally always had "moments" together and the kiss at the end of "Doomsday", it is implied that the two move on...together...and the comics again takes over from that point (not counting "Underground" and "Adventures"), until "Sonic X" appears.

"This is why I avoid those things nowadays. They aren't worth it anymore."

I like shows that remain true to their background, because then you don't f'up continuity and ruin the best part of a franchise with unneeded extras.

"And that's also why I can't stand those SatAM worshippers."

And we can't stand the fact that American culture has now been officially kicked to the curb with this "anime kick" the country is on, because with all these new animes that are airing, all the good shows are being cancelled or replaced.

[TherealRNO]

Sonic originated in Japan. The games came first, then when it was a hit in the West we got comics like Archie and Sonic the Comic. You can't stand there and act like Archie created Sonic because they didn't. Besides, Sonic has referenced alot of Japanese pop culture including Dragon Ball. Sorry for double posting, but that aside, it wasn't until it became a hit here that Sonic became the phenomenon that it has been, but now, with this "anime kick" that America's on, all the good shows are being phased out with crap ("Bobobobobobo" over say, "Teen Titans" or even for the kiddies, the current "Sesame Street" with Elmo hogging TV time over the glory days of old? Gimme, a break!).

[HellCat]

So you're a blinded anime hater who can't even accept one of your interests origins in Japanese culture, instead creating a false truth about how Sonic was an American creation....pitiful.

[Funkmasta Zeph]

But we can all agree that Bigs the Cat was Segas darkest hour.

[TherealRNO]

So you're a blinded anime hater who can't even accept one of your interests origins in Japanese culture, instead creating a false truth about how Sonic was an American creation....pitiful. False. I don't mind anime, but when it infects another culture or tries to make an old series--like Sonic--"hip" with a brand-spanking new replacement ("Sonic X"), yes that irks me.

But, I have nothing against the culture itself, for even the American-made "Teen Titans" borrowed some aspects of the culture (the anime veins, the sweatdrops, the chibi forms, etc.), and I throughly enjoyed that cartoon version of the classic comics (though some villains could've been tweaked and they should've had the Titans go by their REAL names, instead of covering it up, simply due to legal faults).

As for my thought of Sonic as American, I never knew SEGA was based in Japan, so that was my mistake, and I take responsibility for it. However, when a company ruins one of its own creations by trying to appease one generation and upsetting another, that irks me, just like the current issue of WWE currently (ex: the current writers SUCK, for not only do they ruin classic characters like Kane--unmasking him and butchering his backstory [ex: Katie Vick; *shudders*]--but they keep him out of title contention even though he's worked his ass off to get where he is).

[Undrave]

And Sonic X has no link whatsoever to the comics. Robotnik didn't become the Sonic X Eggman.

In Sonic X, Dr. Robotnik was Eggman's GRANDFATHER and he came from Chris' dimension and was the creator of Shadow. (Why Robotnik's dimensionnal travel didn't cause any temporal distortion that would have wrecked both universe is not explained :p ).

If the Japanese want to make an anime of Sonic it's there damn right to do so. If networks want to buy anime and if people watch them it's their own choice too, you can't blame anyone for trends, even if you don't like them.

[HellCat]

False. I don't mind anime, but when it infects another culture or tries to make an old series--like Sonic--"hip" with a brand-spanking new replacement ("Sonic X"), yes that irks me.

But, I have nothing against the culture itself, for even the American-made "Teen Titans" borrowed some aspects of the culture (the anime veins, the sweatdrops, the chibi forms, etc.), and I throughly enjoyed that cartoon version of the classic comics (though some villains could've been tweaked and they should've had the Titans go by their REAL names, instead of covering it up, simply due to legal faults).

As for my thought of Sonic as American, I never knew SEGA was based in Japan, so that was my mistake, and I take responsibility for it. However, when a company ruins one of its own creations by trying to appease one generation and upsetting another, that irks me, just like the current issue of WWE currently (ex: the current writers SUCK, for not only do they ruin classic characters like Kane--unmasking him and butchering his backstory [ex: Katie Vick; *shudders*]--but they keep him out of title contention even though he's worked his ass off to get where he is).

Infects? It's a type of animation genre, not a plague. And it hardly ruined Sonic, if you look at his earliest character designs he's clearly anime inspired. Sonic X wasn't even the first anime attempt at the character.

[TherealRNO]

Infects? It's a type of animation genre, not a plague. And it hardly ruined Sonic, if you look at his earliest character designs he's clearly anime inspired. Sonic X wasn't even the first anime attempt at the character. I know that, but the point being, Sonic's first major leap from gaming into animation was "SatAM" (not counting "Pre-SatAM" and the future prequel, "Adventures of Sonic") and I simply feel that it had the best version of Sonic, hands down. Nothing against "Sonic X", mind you, but I don't like when people take a great franchise and try to "spice" it up, because usually, the sequel...sucks (ex: TMNT, Star Wars, and countless others I could mention).

[HellCat]

I know that, but the point being, Sonic's first major leap from gaming into animation was "SatAM" and I simply feel that it had the best version of Sonic, hands down. Nothing against "Sonic X", mind you, but I don't like when people take a great franchise and try to "spice" it up, because usually, the sequel...sucks.
Yes, Sonic X 'spiced it up' by including the Chaos Emeralds, existing game locations/characters and even adapting game plots. SatAM obviously played it safe by inventing basically a whole new story, adding a bunch of new characters, changing the lead villian and barely referencing the games. Thanks for not giving into temptation, SatAM...:shrug:

[TherealRNO]

Yes, Sonic X 'spiced it up' by including the Chaos Emeralds, existing game locations/characters and even adapting game plots. SatAM obviously played it safe by inventing basically a whole new story, adding a bunch of new characters, changing the lead villian and barely referencing the games. Thanks for not giving into temptation, SatAM...:shrug:
How did they remake the story? They kept the original Archie comic backdrop, but only "played it safe" for the kiddies to mentain a decent rating (similar to how "Teen Titans" was done). And if you recall, the comics had the main character start out as Juilian and then undergo a name change to Dr. Robotnik. Following the Archie comics, itt wasn't until his demise that he was remade into Dr. Eggman (as seen in "Sonic X"). And of course, they couldn't reference the games, because there's the "red tape" called legalities to cover when regarding stuff like that (similar to how the "Titans" toon downplayed the Titans' backstories, but still hinted at them).

[HellCat]

How did they remake the story? They kept the original Archie comic backdrop, but only "played it safe" for the kiddies to mentain a decent rating (similar to how "Teen Titans" was done). And if you recall, the comics had the main character start out as Juilian and then undergo a name change to Dr. Robotnik. Following the Archie comics, itt wasn't until his demise that he was remade into Dr. Eggman (as seen in "Sonic X"). And of course, they couldn't reference the games, because there's the "red tape" called legalities to cover when regarding stuff like that (similar to how the "Titans" toon downplayed the Titans' backstories, but still hinted at them).

Because Archie wasn't the original story!!!

[TherealRNO]

Because Archie wasn't the original story!!! So? It's the only hit comic of Sonics to really still be in production here in the states, unless you count possible imported stuff.

[HellCat]

So? It's the only hit comic of Sonics to really still be in production here in the states, unless you count possible imported stuff.

Yeah, because being a US success automatically makes something superior, huh?

[TherealRNO]

Yeah, because being a US success automatically makes something superior, huh? Hey, we ARE the top dog and we didn't get there by backing down you know. The whole "War" issue is a different matter entirely, though, and I am not bothering to get into a political debacle of how I think Bush is an idiot at times. But, in regards to Sonic, dislike it or not (personally, it's my favorite Sonic version), "SatAM" did have a catchy theme song:

http://www.youtube.com/v/whjVucqw-wo

[Karl Olson]

wow, this thread has really gotten lame and silly in a negative way. closed before it gets outright horrible.