Dirty Gas

[Psycho Fox]

I was watching a show on dirty gas yesterday. Acording to it most of the pollutions caused by cars are due to the sulphur levels in gas. Sulphur also hurts the cars engine and exhaust system which is why automakers also want to see cleaner gas.

The refineries want a tax break for clean gas like California gives while environmentalist want the sulphur level in part per million on the pumps. On the show the head of Imperial Oil (which has the dirtiest gas in North America at 700 PPM compaired to 30 PPM the average for California) said that putting the sulphur levels on the pumps in preposterous due to the fact the average driver does not posses enough the scientific knowledge and intelligence to make such decisions and putting it on the pumps would just cause confusion and people should just put their trust in the refineries as in his opinon the gas is clean enough.

I say he is full of crap and the goverment of both US and Canada should make it law that the sulphur levels has be put on the pumps. What does everyone else think about the matter?

[Maxie Zeus]

Well, I've noticed that Americans have only gotten fatter since the govt mandated nutrition labels on packaged food. Color me unimpressed by the idea.

[Psycho Fox]

Originally posted by Maxie Zeus
Well, I've noticed that Americans have only gotten fatter since the govt mandated nutrition labels on packaged food. Color me unimpressed by the idea. Yes but with the sulphur levels on the pump the comsumer via the media could be tought that higher levels means more money you have to spend later on maintenance costs for your car lower means less and oh yhea lower also means a heather envoirment. I think most people would go with the gas that will save them money down the road..

[killercroc]

Polluters have a way of changing the arguments around to something that doesn't have anything to do with the actual issue. Happens all the time.

Basically, they don't want us to have any choice but to use their higher profit margin dirty gas. So they confuse the issue by saying we're not smart enough to use the information. Why not give us a chance at least?

[killercroc]

Originally posted by Maxie Zeus
Well, I've noticed that Americans have only gotten fatter since the govt mandated nutrition labels on packaged food. Color me unimpressed by the idea.

You've noticed? Is that your professional opinion? Still, I do think you're right.

Doesn't mean the two are related, though. America was already getting fatter before that happened. How can we really say what effect the labeling has had?

This is just like the country of origin labeling debate going on with food. All we're asking for is the information, so we can make the choice.

[DR. BELCH]

Max says the Amercian people are getting fatter since dietary restrictions appeared on labels. I say that TV programs have gotten more violent and sexual and children are watching more programs they shouldn't since the TV ratings went into effect five years ago (a dark day). So why would albeling a gas pump to say "x units of sulfur/gallon" be much different/better?

Besides, it isn't the gasoline engine that's killing the air/ozone--it's termite flatulence! It accounts for some qaurter of all air pollution globally. Maybe they should put find a way to stick their stamps on the termite's wee arses.... :D

[Joe Tully]

The sulfur info would, at the worst, have no effect at all on the way in which people purchace gas, while at the best, it could improve gasoline quality. Maybe the info wouldn't bring about any changes, but I think that it's worth a shot. The average car user would maybe need to learn a little about the sulfur content (though I don't know how hard it is to understand that less sulfur = better) but it would be nice for people to at least have access to that info if they wanted it. The only reason why gas companies could be against it is because they have something to hide and $$$ to gain.

[Zorakfan]

Mmm....17% Daily recommended requirement of sulphur...*salivates*

[Calhoun07]

If they were really concerned about the welfare of this world and pollution and the whole political merry-go-round, they would allow the cars that can run on water to be produced on a mass market scale and put an end to pollution thru gasoline all together. You don't get much cleaner than running a car on pure water.

[Joe Tully]

Well, unless you've heard of something different than what I've heard, they don't exactly run on water, but water is the only waste product from the combustion. No exhaust fumes at all from that model. And I agree, I've been hearing about those for probably a decade and it still doesn't seem like they've advanced at all. At least some company's got the guts to put out those hybrid cars that run on electricity at lower speeds, that's a really cool idea. I'd buy one if I had the cash. The money you'd save on gas would help pay for the car pretty well, I'd expect.

[killercroc]

Originally posted by Joe Tully
The sulfur info would, at the worst, have no effect at all on the way in which people purchace gas, while at the best, it could improve gasoline quality. Maybe the info wouldn't bring about any changes, but I think that it's worth a shot. The average car user would maybe need to learn a little about the sulfur content (though I don't know how hard it is to understand that less sulfur = better) but it would be nice for people to at least have access to that info if they wanted it. The only reason why gas companies could be against it is because they have something to hide and $$$ to gain.

Exactly! Money is always the reason when dealing with any company. It's why they're in business.

I'm screaming what you're screaming "At least give us access to the info."

As for the Termite Flatulence. I dunno. Around my house it's my infant son that's killing the air quality.

[Psycho Fox]

Originally posted by killercroc


Exactly! Money is always the reason when dealing with any company. It's why they're in business.

I'm screaming what you're screaming "At least give us access to the info."Right, and you are technically paing for that sulfur so as I consumer I think I have the right to know.

[Karkull]

Originally posted by calhoun07
You don't get much cleaner than running a car on pure water.

Shoot. It would save the enviornment, but could you imagine the humidity on that highway?