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joker
01-09-2002, 08:44 PM
this is an interesting read

http://abcnews.go.com/sections/GMA/GoodMorningAmerica/GMA010320_Potter_Suit.html

Barb Gordon
01-09-2002, 10:33 PM
Ah yes, this old nagging case. I read up on it a few months ago, quite interesting indeed. Not really. The author suing does have some basis, but it's a lost cause. Though there are many similiarities, there are alot of differences. Rowling's Muggles are non magic folk. This lady uses the term Muggles for these ugly, wrinkly baby people who survived a holocaust type thing. She wasn't that popular of an author to begin with, so I'd find it hard to beleive that Rowling, in England went and somehow found a non popular writer in America and copied her stuff. Besides, I can find loads of similarities in Lord of The Ring and Harry Potter!

Barb^-^

RockItShipper
01-09-2002, 11:50 PM
Starting with Wormtongue and Wormtail.

killercroc
01-10-2002, 01:12 PM
With those similarities it seems apparent that Rowling had at least heard of these books. I can't see why people are getting so bent out of shape about the names though. What really defined Harry Potter was the plot, not the names of the Characters.

Lots of authors use goblins, orcs and trolls. That doesn't mean they're all copying Tolkien. (even though he didn't invent those creatures, the comparison is still valid, I think. )

DR. BELCH
01-10-2002, 02:23 PM
--people have nothing better to do than scream "plagiarism" in order to get a little attention and maybe advance their career. This self-righteous little worm should be crushed under Rowling's English boot. It's people like her that hold we writers back and make us afraid to publish, because we don't want to hear the P word thrown about and risk our credibility. :mad:

TuffyCatt
01-10-2002, 03:35 PM
The article only listed six names that were similar, and with all the hundreds of names Rowling has come up with to put in her books, that's a very small number. I think it was just a coincidence, especially since fantasy type books all have creatures, characters, and names that sound similar anyway...

Joe Tully
01-10-2002, 04:15 PM
Plagiarism implies that a person steals elements from someone else's work to make their own work a success. I doubt that Rowling would steal characters from an unknown, out-of-print book. It would be like building a boat using stolen blueprint designs from the Titanic. Not to mention that Rowling's versions of the characters seem to have very little in common with their counterparts, other than the names.

Jedigreedo
01-10-2002, 05:12 PM
I dunno, the Muggle thing is kinda like each one is the exact opposite of each other, and then the Lily/Lilly stuff, well there ya go. Key thing is tho, the description of the character... Larry and Harry both look a good deal alike.

James Harvey
01-10-2002, 05:22 PM
I think this is a coincidence - I really do. Yes - there are some characters with the same name so that must mean that she plagarized it completely. There are plent yof characters with the same name, design, and powers, etc, in various comics and movies, etc. Are all of them plagarized? No. This kinda stuff just sickens me.

Stupendous Man
01-10-2002, 05:47 PM
Part of me is pleased to see the show of support
several of you are giving JKR .

I love the potter books, and Id hate to think they
were the result of something less than honest.

However I always get nervous when people blindly
yell "inconceivable !!" ... "impossible !!".

I think we should all consider the possibility that
JK may have been more than a little "inspired" by
Larry Potter.

These are some big parallels.

I know some of you want to dismiss it , but they're
considerable if you know anything about plagerism.

First - the arguement that the rest of the book is different
is ridiculous. JKR is a little too bright to have copied the
book page by page.

Second- Just cause JK is a fine writer , doesnt mean she
couldn't have stolen a seed of an idea from someone else.

Third - Just cause the book is out of print - doesnt mean
JK didnt read it. Ive read and enjoyed a number of different
novels that are now out of print. You probably have too
if your an avid reader .. which JKR must be.

Fourth - Just cause JKR has been more successfull than this
other author shouldnt be proof of her innocence.

That reminds me of medieval times when people used to have
to prove their innocence in hand to hand combat.

Fifth - If it turns out that JK did borrow this and that from
the other author. I think thats a big deal. A book is
like an author's child. It'd be quite an insult to any of us
if some one took one of our ideas and built an empire of it.
While your sitting on the sidelines saying ..."hey wait a minute .."


I'll im saying is that we should keep an open mind.

RockItShipper
01-10-2002, 08:06 PM
Looking at the list, some are generic things you get when seeking oddish names in the same genre. And I think there's significance in Harry's mother being named after a flower... (Who else in the books is? Ok, besides Petunia)... Then again, JKR was a teacher and possibly gotten ahold of one of the books.

In any case, I'm hoping that Wormtail leaves a parting image like that of Wormtongue. :D Voldemort's relationships with all his agents seem to be fashioned in that sort of dysfunctional manner.