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Cortez2301
04-24-2006, 04:01 AM
Alot of villains from the DCAU are insane and homicidal freaks.Yet since they are not always in gotham some of them are taken to other sanitariums.Whod do you think should be locked up in arkham from those who are not in it.First of all,I think RAs al ghul should be there because he is just crazy,trying to create a mass genocide to "save the world".Even though he is one of my favourite characters,I still find that crazy.I don't know why but I think clock king should be there too,there just something about him...thats crazy.

Now for a Superman villain,I would have to say Toyman .The guy is just creepy,sick and weird.I have the feeling something hideous is underneath that mask.I'd also choose Livewire for various reasons.

Gpoliceman
04-24-2006, 07:32 PM
I never understood why the Riddler was in Arkham. I never felt the Riddler was psychotic, he just liked using puzzles at his crimes. A lot of criminals in the real world leave behind things to mark their crimes. And in the episode "Riddler's Reform", the Riddler was obsessed with beating Batman at a game of wits because Batman was his most challenging foe. That's just being ultra-competitive, not psychotic. I never got why Riddler was in Arkham.

Penguin, Riddler, Killer Croc - these villains dont belong in Arkham

Joker, Harley, Ivy, Two-Face, Ventriloquist - these belong in Arkham

Ras Al Ghul is not psychotic, in my opinion. He's a terrorist. A psychotic is someone who doesn't know right from wrong, or has a severe mental disability (like Two-Face's split personality disorder). Terrorists, I think, kill people because they think it's right, in order to serve a larger goal, to make the world a better place, to do something they ultimately think is "good". So Ras Al Ghul is not insane, he's just misguided. He's willing to kill to save the planet, to serve a larger purpose in life.

I also dont think Mr. Freeze or Clayface are psychotic, but they would need a special jail cell to hold both of them. Mr. Freeze is not a psycho, he's bent on revenge. If revenge is psychotic, then in the real world, just about every criminal in your local prison would be considered "insane".

Greg

dc_gothamite
04-24-2006, 08:33 PM
I never understood why the Riddler was in Arkham. I never felt the Riddler was psychotic, he just liked using puzzles at his crimes. A lot of criminals in the real world leave behind things to mark their crimes. And in the episode "Riddler's Reform", the Riddler was obsessed with beating Batman at a game of wits because Batman was his most challenging foe. That's just being ultra-competitive, not psychotic. I never got why Riddler was in Arkham.

Penguin, Riddler, Killer Croc - these villains dont belong in Arkham

Joker, Harley, Ivy, Two-Face, Ventriloquist - these belong in Arkham

Ras Al Ghul is not psychotic, in my opinion. He's a terrorist. A psychotic is someone who doesn't know right from wrong, or has a severe mental disability (like Two-Face's split personality disorder). Terrorists, I think, kill people because they think it's right, in order to serve a larger goal, to make the world a better place, to do something they ultimately think is "good". So Ras Al Ghul is not insane, he's just misguided. He's willing to kill to save the planet, to serve a larger purpose in life.

I also dont think Mr. Freeze or Clayface are psychotic, but they would need a special jail cell to hold both of them. Mr. Freeze is not a psycho, he's bent on revenge. If revenge is psychotic, then in the real world, just about every criminal in your local prison would be considered "insane".

Greg

In defense of the Penguin, he was actually sent to Stonegate i think... someone correct me if i'm wrong :D

theRedDeath
04-24-2006, 09:16 PM
Riddler definitely belongs in Arkham. This was demonstrated clearly in "Riddler's Reform" in how he MUST tell riddles, it's not a theme or a gimmick, it's a compulsion. and that's why it's a sickness.

Cortez2301
04-25-2006, 02:39 AM
In defense of the Penguin, he was actually sent to Stonegate i think... someone correct me if i'm wrong :Du r right

The Penguin
04-25-2006, 11:30 AM
I think clock king should be there too,there just something about him...thats crazy.Clock King has never been seen locked up. He escaped in "The Clock King" and I can't remember what the devil happened to him in "Time Out of Joint." There is no question he'd be in Arkham, we've never seen him in Stonegate either.

Nightwing
04-25-2006, 12:47 PM
Clock King has never been seen locked up. He escaped in "The Clock King" and I can't remember what the devil happened to him in "Time Out of Joint." There is no question he'd be in Arkham, we've never seen him in Stonegate either.

Apparently he just doesn't go to jail!! lol! Yeah, that is weird. I'm sure there's an explanation though. Like maybe we didn't really see any big detailed views of Stonegate and Arkham to see Fugate in there.

He IS locked up SOMEWHERE though. At the end of Time Out of Joint, I brought him to justice myself. Remember? Batman delt with the bomb, even though sometimes you can't get RID of a bomb, and Robin stopped Fugate.

I'd say Stonegate for Fugate but I don't know. He was obsessed enough to want to kill the Mayor, and being a Batman villain now he's a high roller and therefore very dangerous. I suggest Stonegate, but I suggest some time in Arkham for observation.

Or we could just stuff him in one of those nasty hot boxes from The Forgotten.

Cortez2301
04-26-2006, 11:19 AM
Clock King has never been seen locked up. He escaped in "The Clock King" and I can't remember what the devil happened to him in "Time Out of Joint." There is no question he'd be in Arkham, we've never seen him in Stonegate either.Atually if you have read the rise of sin tzu novel they mention he is in arkham in clayface's narration.

The Penguin
04-26-2006, 02:47 PM
Atually if you have read the rise of sin tzu novel they mention he is in arkham in clayface's narration.Well that's not exactly cannon, but you were the one who brought up Clock King in the first place. Based on your topic, implying that he was not in Arkham.

Cortez2301
04-27-2006, 05:32 AM
Well that's not exactly cannon, but you were the one who brought up Clock King in the first place. Based on your topic, implying that he was not in Arkham.Ok but think about it.The guys has gone total bonkers because of the lawsuit and he tried to kill mayor hill for a small peice of advice.Thats pretty crazy,But do you have anyone else u think who should be there?(I mean these are just opinions).

veemonjosh
04-28-2006, 04:36 PM
A psychotic is someone who doesn't know right from wrong, or has a severe mental disability.

So, would the Joker go under severe mental disability?

staticblue
04-28-2006, 04:58 PM
you know, while we are talking about people who dont need to be in Arkham, Mad Hatter is a good example. I dont think he's crazy. Hes just a crook with a gimmick. I personally think that he may fake insanity upon capture so that he doesnt have to go to the soap drop jail. Other than that, most villians outside of Gotham dont really seem like they should go to Arkham. I agree with Toyman though. I think he might have a problem. hmm.. villians who should go to arkham? I really can't say.

Batman91
04-28-2006, 08:58 PM
Riddler definitely belongs in Arkham. This was demonstrated clearly in "Riddler's Reform" in how he MUST tell riddles, it's not a theme or a gimmick, it's a compulsion. and that's why it's a sickness.
At first I thought"Riddler dosen't belong in Arkham",but then I read your post and thought about it for it moment.I'd have to say I totally agree,it is a sickness.

G. Wen
04-28-2006, 11:03 PM
Well, Riddler has to be diagnosed w/ OCD in order to belong in Arkham. I don't know if he fits the bill of OCD. I always got the impression he tells riddles because he's egomaniacal, and it's a great way to show off his genius.

The Penguin
04-29-2006, 12:07 AM
Well, Riddler has to be diagnosed w/ OCD in order to belong in Arkham. I don't know if he fits the bill of OCD. I always got the impression he tells riddles because he's egomaniacal, and it's a great way to show off his genius.I feel like every third person forgets that in "Riddler's Reform" both he and Batman talked about how he couldn't stop. He had a great thing going with the toy company, but blew it all by challenging Batman. He had his henchmen wait around after they were done at 10 Leslie just to see if Batman would show up. Those are not the actions of a sane man. He can't help himself.

"You can play all you like. You and I both know that I'm going to put you away because you can't help yourself. You can't stop. And I'll be waiting."

RIDDLER: He's right you know.
THUG: Who?
RIDDLER: Batman. He is going to catch me sooner or later.
THUG: Gee, boss, you're scaring me. You're talking kinda crazy.
RIDDLER: Don't you ever call me that! I fooled the police! The doctors! The Parole Board! All of them! There's only one person who's ever been able to challenge me! Batman! He's the only one worthy of the game!

Then at the end, he didn't even care that he'd been caught, he just wanted to know how Batman had "won the game."

staticblue
04-29-2006, 12:11 AM
I feel like every third person forgets that in "Riddler's Reform" both he and Batman talked about how he couldn't stop. He had a great thing going with the toy company, but blew it all by challenging Batman. He had his henchmen wait around after they were done at 10 Leslie just to see if Batman would show up. Those are not the actions of a sane man. He can't help himself.

"You can play all you like. You and I both know that I'm going to put you away because you can't help yourself. You can't stop. And I'll be waiting."

RIDDLER: He's right you know.
THUG: Who?
RIDDLER: Batman. He is going to catch me sooner or later.
THUG: Gee, boss, you're scaring me. You're talking kinda crazy.
RIDDLER: Don't you ever call me that! I fooled the police! The doctors! The Parole Board! All of them! There's only one person who's ever been able to challenge me! Batman! He's the only one worthy of the game!

Then at the end, he didn't even care that he'd been caught, he just wanted to know how Batman had "won the game."


God you put that so well. I didnt even have to say anthing

also someone up above mentioned that Clock King should be in Arkham. No. Clock King is nothing more than an incrdibly efficient criminal. He has no real compulsion, and being bent on trying to Kill Hamilton Hill does not make him crazy. Hes just bent on revenge. plain and simple. Plus, I doubt Cadmus would go to arkham to recruit a anyone for task force x. It would prove to be incredibly poor planning.

DeathscytheVII
05-02-2006, 06:37 PM
I've always wondered why Mister Freeze is in Arkham, he wasn't really insane. Just bitter and uncaring.

The Penguin
05-02-2006, 06:39 PM
I've always wondered why Mister Freeze is in Arkham, he wasn't really insane. Just bitter and uncaring.He's in Arkham at the end of Heart of Ice (being evaluated perhaps). I'm pretty sure (although I'm not checking) that Grant Walker's robot kidnaps him out of Stonegate (or it at least looks like it could be).

Anwar
05-02-2006, 10:13 PM
Mr.Freeze, Penguin, Bane and Clayface all don't belong in Arkham.

Bane and Penguin go to Stonegate/Blackgate penitentiery.

Clayface and Freeze are in Arkham I think because they're more used to holding "gimmicked" guys like them.

Where does Croc go? Arkham or Jail?

Cortez2301
05-03-2006, 05:47 AM
Mr.Freeze, Penguin, Bane and Clayface all don't belong in Arkham.

Bane and Penguin go to Stonegate/Blackgate penitentiery.

Clayface and Freeze are in Arkham I think because they're more used to holding "gimmicked" guys like them.

Where does Croc go? Arkham or Jail?Croc goes tyo arkham.In the comics he was deemed insane.Mostly due to his rough crocodile behaviour and his man slaughter he causes.He is crazy but we just can't see it.

Anwar
05-03-2006, 11:59 AM
In the cartoons he just goes to jail, like in "Love is a Croc". But in the comics I guess he is crazy/crazier so goes to Arkham.

Cortez2301
05-03-2006, 02:17 PM
In the cartoons he just goes to jail, like in "Love is a Croc". But in the comics I guess he is crazy/crazier so goes to Arkham.Actually In that episode you see that he is in arkham when he is in the tank.I am just trying to correct you.

Anwar
05-03-2006, 06:28 PM
That was Arkham? I thought it was a prison. Oh well. Haven't watched it in a while.