Manga History book removed from CA libraries.

[Go-chin]

http://www.newsarama.com/forums/showthread.php?threadid=67135

Why won't they learn? Comics are NOT just for kids.

[Noukon]

Some people are very reactive to things they don't understand.

[Zechs]

Her son will be lving in her basment when he's 30 never having had sex and day dreaming about which comic chick he'd like to have his way with. If it were me I'd be evil and request that ALL books that have anything to do with sex be taken out as well. That way it's fair and the children would be safe from something as dirty and evil as sex. ;)

[Rocketboy]

When the human race goes exctinct, I'm blaming the parents that wanted to "Protect" their children.

And seriously, what kind of dumbass dosen't realize that things from tthe ADULT section have to deal with violence and sex?

[Funkmasta Zeph]

And he's 16?:shrug:

Jesus ****ing christ ....

In less than two years he'll be at college. Where thier frank about everything.
He can already consent to sex.
In less than two years he can go to a strip club.
In less than two years he can go to some hell hole and kill people and get killed.

Above all else that gets me.

[GWOtaku]

Book censorship? I expected more from a self-described "progressive" state. This is laughable.

[Master Moron]

You know, I'd normally jump on the bandwagon with you guys, but have any of you actually seen the book? According to that article it shows pornographic images of sex with animals. Now, it's quite possible that they're exagerating, but I'm really not sure that that type of stuff belongs in a public library. Of course, that whole article seems a little biased, so I don't know...really I think I would have to see the book myself to decide whether I think it should be in a public library.

[GWOtaku]

I haven't seen the book, but I gather that it covers a broad range of comics. The fact is the book was in an adult section, and I believe banning a book from a library is an extreme measure that has a corresponding extremely high threshold.


The library noted that she was the only person to have complained about the book’s content since it joined the collection in May of last year, and had been checked out over 100 times since.

Nannett Bricker-Barret, the County Library Collection Development Coordinator told the Desert Dispatch that ultimately, parents should be responsible for that their children view.

“It is the parents' responsibility since the library does not act as a parent. It is the library's responsibility to offer a broad spectrum of materials, not to exclude materials,” Bricker-Barret told the paper. “Library policy affirms the American Library Association's Library Bill of Rights, Freedom to Read and Freedom to View statements"

Emphasis mine.

[Rasputin]

I have actually leafed through the book, since it's on sale in a few local bookshops. It's a history of the emergence of manga from pre-contact times, through Tezuka to the present day. It's a thoroughly fascinating read, and yes it does have pornographic images but unsurprisingly that's because the book has a chapter on how the development of manga has permeated every genre, and how it applies itself to pornography, since...you know...there's sort of a lot of it.

It does no academic study any good to tiptoe around it, and you can't exactly study the techniques used without accursedly well looking at these things, so therefore despite being pornographic images the purpose behind printing these images is educational, not pornographic, and only occupies one chapter of what is a very hefty book.

It belongs in a public library just as much as a concise history of early renaissance art does. There are tons of artbooks, photographic studies and romances more explicit than this book ever is, and all of these have educational worth, so the people behind this protest are really kicking up a storm in a teacup.

[AlienOmega]

Read about that on FARK.com a few days back. *too lazy to look for the comments thingee*

It's friggen retarded, I swear.

[Noukon]

Book censorship? I expected more from a self-described "progressive" state. This is laughable.

Funny thing about California -- it really isn't all that liberal. Check out our ridiculous Governor!

Seriously, though, this state is bigger than most countries. Its natural, political, and social landscapes vary as much as such things can.

[Yash]

Oh for Christ's sake. It was in the ADULT section. Why would any parent let their kids in there?

Oh yeah, they expect everyone to babysit them.

[Keldran]

Book censorship? I expected more from a self-described "progressive" state. This is laughable.

Yeah but this story comes from San Bernadino, not quite git-r-done and meth labs but pretty close.

[GagaMan]

Ammitedly, the book doers has a page of hentai in it, cinluding a panel of a farie having sex with a rat. Eheh ^^;

[MonkeyFunk]

Ammitedly, the book doers has a page of hentai in it, cinluding a panel of a farie having sex with a rat. Eheh ^^;
*flips through*

there's 12 pages with varaying degrees of nudity, from a fairy having sex with a rat to Crayon Shinshan at a public bath, along with quite a bit of graphic gore (like a little girl with scissors ripping through her eyes - from inside her head :ack:).

But yeah, this was an adult section. I find it hard to believe that there aren't worse books in there.

[Gokou Ruri]

But yeah, this was an adult section. I find it hard to believe that there aren't worse books in there. But how many of them are manga? ;)

[D.Shaffer]

Keep in mind that in most public libraries, the Adult section is just where they put all the books that arent Young Adult or Kid specific. Most of the books in the Adult section would be fairly child safe, just above what they'd consider a kids reading level.

The fact they pulled the book from those libraries was...not a good idea, but dont go using the spurious 'It was the ADULT section' as a counter argument. There's more legitimate reasons why this was a boneheaded idea.

[Funkmasta Zeph]

Ammitedly, the book doers has a page of hentai in it, cinluding a panel of a farie having sex with a rat. Eheh ^^;

Sex is part of history.
Sex is part of culture.
Sex is part of life.

It has as much right to be there as anything else.

[MonkeyFunk]

Sex is part of history.
Sex is part of culture.
Sex is part of life.


Even if it's between a fairy and a rat? :D

[KuwabaraTheMan]

What's funny, at the library I work at(which is in Virginia, a pretty conservative state), there's a book in the Children's non fiction section dedicated completely to sex with pictures of naked people, people masturbating, and people having sex in many different positions, with text explaining it.

[Artimus Gigan]

What's funny, at the library I work at(which is in Virginia, a pretty conservative state), there's a book in the Children's non fiction section dedicated completely to sex with pictures of naked people, people masturbating, and people having sex in many different positions, with text explaining it.
What's the name of this book?

[Funkmasta Zeph]

What's the name of this book?

Probably one of many Kid's guides to puberty/growing up/sex etc.

[KuwabaraTheMan]

What's the name of this book?

I believe its "Its Perfectly Natural".

[Dark Fact]

I believe its "Its Perfectly Natural".
Don't ask me why, Kuwabara, but I found that extremely funny!

[KuwabaraTheMan]

Don't ask me why, Kuwabara, but I found that extremely funny!

So did I and all the other employees when we spent worktime payed for by Virginia Taxpayers looking through the book.

[Weatherman]

I believe its "Its Perfectly Natural".

You're kidding me, right? Dear holy being.......:eek:


Farking demagouges. "OMG, NEKKID PEOPLE!!!!1!11!" Please, grow a bloody backbone you frauds. A 16 year old kind checked it out. I wil lgaruntee he's seen far more in many different formats than that book could ever show. It was even in the ADULT secion. Gahh!:mad:

[The Fullmetal]

Once again, the moronic American public uses the stereotype of all anime being porn and pulls a book because some loser kid who probably watches Cinemax After Dark anyway complains to his soccer mom, who probably spent the day surfing the airwaves to see what to complain to the FCC about next. I hate this country.

Oh snap, I have this book. I just found it on my bookshelf. WTF?

[QuackPack]

I agree that it's a ridiculous move, especially for a library in California, of all places. I haven't been to a library in a while, but I know that they have books with far worse depicted in words, rather than pictures. It's just a bias against comics/animation that this mother and politician seem to have. I'm sure this sixteen year old has seen movies with material that isn't kid friendly, and even then... he's sixteen. Not 10. One year away from being allowed in to a rated R movie, anyway. I agree that it's the parent's responsibility to monitor what their child is doing/watching, however, that's exactly what this mom is doing, only taking it to the extreme by asking for this book to be removed from all libraries. It's unfair to the people who might actually benefit from the other material in the book. I have it, and it's very informative and interesting. It's not porn disguised. Ah, well. I don't live in that county. And I can buy my own books now. Being grown up has it's advantages. :p

[Funkmasta Zeph]

So did I and all the other employees when we spent worktime payed for by Virginia Taxpayers looking through the book.

*Is fearing for his college trip down south*

[veemonjosh]

I hate this country.

Ever since the Teen Titans VS PTC incident, so have I.

[Funkmasta Zeph]

I can't wait till the conservatives are out of power.....than again I recall Tipper Gore being censor crazy too.

****....people.

[Rasputin]

People, get a grip. It's not like this is a 'rising trend' or anything. It's not like it's the 1950s anymore. You can get away with a lot more stuff nowadays. This concerns maybe a few recalcitrants in high places. Every time period has these kinds of people, and in actual fact I actually think there's less of them now than there previously has been. So everyone relax, sheesh...