kim and ron's relationship

[Toon Traveller]

personally, i think they should not be together. i've written many kp fanfic novels and drawn many kp fan art. then it all got flushed away because of this. i have no idea about what kim see's in ron. he's a dork, a loser, etc. i can tell season 4 will not be a walk in the park for me.

what do you think about them?

[Baby Blue Queen]

personally, i think they should not be together. i've written many kp fanfic novels and drawn many kp fan art. then it all got flushed away because of this. i have no idea about what kim see's in ron. he's a dork, a loser, etc. i can tell season 4 will not be a walk in the park for me.

what do you think about them?

I think in that movie, when they kissed, that might have disappointed many fans. It will ruin their friendship

[Erased Paper]

I'm one of those people that don't "ship" K/R. Though they'll be dating in season 4, there is still a possibility of a breakup.

Bob Schooley said in a recent interview that although ending the show with K/R seemed right, now that the show's back, he feels they've "painted themselves into a corner" and are now trying to "tip-toe out of it".

He also made a comment that the show isn't going to become a soap opera, which is good news.

Hope that helps at least a little bit.

[Toon Traveller]

well i hope they break up.
what i went through was tragic.
but if they do, i can finally get back to my passion.

[judyindisguise]

Why is there always an assumption that if two characters get together it ruins things? I've never believed that. Again, you can make anything work if it's written well. I see nothing wrong with Ron and Kim going on dates now and then. It could be amusing and cute as hell. I'm looking forward to it.

[Strollymonster]

Well, they might just cheap out and try to "dream-sequence" their way out of it.

I'm not entirely sure. I approve of the pairing, but I think it'll just be a bit too uncomfortable to watch for a season...

[Wondergirl]

Well, most of the fan momentum that I was aware of for getting the show renewed came from the heavy, heavy Kim and Ron "shippers". That being the case, I can't see how they could possibly justify pulling out of it. Not that every episode has to have romantic interaction, but there does need to be acknowledgement of it.

[Peter Paltridge]

Why is there always an assumption that if two characters get together it ruins things? I've never believed that.
Neither have I, and I have proof: Aladdin and Jasmine. Throughout that entire show there was little doubt cast on their relationship at all; they were always in love. And the show still managed to be entertaining. The absence of romantic tension didn't matter.

There's no reason Kim and Ron can't stay together. The "corner" is an illusion.

My, I thought when I clicked on THIS topic I'd never post in it...

[Mandi-chan]

Personally, I don't think Kim deserves Ron.

I was all for the couple until I saw the movie, Kim's attitude about him ticked me off and turned me off to the idea of them being together.

Pretty much, Kim realized Ron has a thing for her, but in conversations with her friend she denies her feelings towards him. Here's the thing, she's not worried about their friendship being ruined by them getting together...she's worried about her image! (or that's what her comments implied).

Then she latched onto the first guy she meet, and acts embarrased by Ron throughout the film.(although, i don't blame her for some of this since the writers went out of their way to make Ron look extremely stupid in this move, his voice acting was really off too.)

Then, when the hot guy turns out to be an evil robot (or whatever he was), all of a sudden...Ron's good enough for her!

I dunno, it just bugged me (I didn't really care for the movie, can you tell?).

[NikD]

i have no idea about what kim see's in ron. he's a dork, a loser, etc.

Really? I think he's a cutie who's funny, talented (cooking, anyone?) and always there for a friend. Course, I find that dorky guys always make the best boyfriends.

Oops, sorry sweetie. Were you reading over my shoulder? :)

[Dr. Dave]

Ron and Kim's relationship has always been an integral part of the series, although secondary to going on missions and saving the world.

They share an intimate friendship, which, quite naturally in my opinion, developed into a budding romance in So The Drama. I think this relationship will continue in season 4, but it will remain in the background.

I approve of their relationship because it makes the characters more real, offers opportunities for the characters to grow, and makes the plots more interesting. :D

[Eric Brown]

Ron and Kim's relationship has always been an integral part of the series, although secondary to going on missions and saving the world.

They share an intimate friendship, which, quite naturally in my opinion, developed into a budding romance in So The Drama. I think this relationship will continue in season 4, but it will remain in the background.

I approve of their relationship because it makes the characters more real, offers opportunities for the characters to grow, and makes the plots more interesting. :D

Ya know, .........being a long, long LONG time cartoon watcher and seeing the faces of TV cartoons changing over the decades, the Kim Possible series is a STAND OUT among the other "suff" that is pushed our way. The CARTOONISH elements are there along with the adventure/humor and a good balance of surrounding characters that fit the story element without being outlandish or "over the top". In addition, there are the daily "growing up" elements that we can identify with. The animation quality is passable, the writing is way above average and the character design style is different enough to make you take notice.

Over analyzed ???? Maybe so. Capsulation; I totally agree with Dr. Dave. The storyline of "So The Drama" was something that needed to be explored. It worked for me. I don't think it will bring down the series at all.

ENOUGH SAID THANX

[Warrior Kitana]

Well personally, I've always been rather indifferent about the Kim/Ron relationship up until STD (which I thought the movie handled their budding romance well). I had thought that they were good friends and I knew that a possible pairing of the two (or atleast the writers exploring romantic aspects of it) was pretty much inevitable, but I wasn't so sure how a romantic relationship between them would work: it could've changed the series for better or for worse. I liked how in STD, we saw Ron slowly realizing his feelings for Kim and how Kim eventually realized what a great guy Ron was.

It would've been a great ending for the series, but now that the series has been renewed I'm still wondering how the writers will handle them as a couple. I do prefer that their romance be acknowledged in the series because I want to see how the relationship will affect Ron and Kim both. Since Kim is still the popular cheerleader will her romance with Ron be ridiculed or accepted as the norm. I just hope the writers don't turn the show into a soap-opera.

BTW, I wonder are Kim and Ron in their junior or senior year of high school now?

[Dr. Dave]

So The Drama was intended as the series conclusion, but a variety of factors (no doubt the show's powerful ratings and the fan community's response) led Disney to order another batch of episodes.

I, too, hope the writers deal with this new relationship in an intelligent fashion. I also hope they have some fun with it, since such relationships are fertile ground for comedy (that's life, folks; comedy or tragedy :D ).

I believe that So The Drama ended with Rom and Kim at their junior prom, so season 4 will be their senior year of high school.

[Toon Traveller]

i just hope that they don't do a surten thing that is included in all my fanfic books.

[The Huntsman]

I sincerely apologize, though you do realize that fanfiction is merely fiction, which means it holds no basis over the series itself, right? You honestly seem to believe that the new season is a travesty onto fanfiction writers, though you must realize that the series is the reason you’ve managed to write your “fanfiction”, so you should at least have faith in the series to handle things properly. Regardless, I can say in good faith that they’re not going to change their plans just because some fanfiction writers object to the ideal, so you might as well get used to that fact.

I mean you no disrespect, but I just dislike it when fanfiction writers try to think that the series can’t do something just because it goes against their fanfiction.

[Toon Traveller]

i know that i can't change the serise.:shrug:
i just quit writeing more of them because i know that they're together.
when i didn't know, my novels were pure gold.
but i can't continue knowing the kim is in love with a dork.
believe me, my novels are completely different from the serise.
if you want to know what their about, i would gladly tell you about my serise.

[I.R Joey]

Well personally, I've always been rather indifferent about the Kim/Ron relationship up until STD (which I thought the movie handled their budding romance well). I had thought that they were good friends and I knew that a possible pairing of the two (or atleast the writers exploring romantic aspects of it) was pretty much inevitable, but I wasn't so sure how a romantic relationship between them would work: it could've changed the series for better or for worse. I liked how in STD, we saw Ron slowly realizing his feelings for Kim and how Kim eventually realized what a great guy Ron was.

It would've been a great ending for the series, but now that the series has been renewed I'm still wondering how the writers will handle them as a couple. I do prefer that their romance be acknowledged in the series because I want to see how the relationship will affect Ron and Kim both. Since Kim is still the popular cheerleader will her romance with Ron be ridiculed or accepted as the norm. I just hope the writers don't turn the show into a soap-opera.

BTW, I wonder are Kim and Ron in their junior or senior year of high school now?

I'm one of those people who think that the show might have been better served ending the show at So the Drama. I just think they're tempting the shark by continuing after the two main charecters have hooked up.

As for the Kim/Ron romance. I felt it was a natural progression of the charecters. I thought there was tension there from the first season. It wasn't as overt as say Danny and Sam's in Danny Phantom (a similar show), it was there. Personally I felt that the series strongest episode charecter wise was "Emotion Sickness" which was fairly overt. And of course the end of the movie was almost universally applauded at this forum (for good reason).

And yes were overanalyzing.

[HeeHaw9]

I don't like the couple at all, but it's not a thing I can change, so I'll deal with it. HOWEVER, I hope that's not the biggest focus of the series, because it would be REALLY annoying if KP mentions Ron on every sentence. There's still Shego(go Shego!:anime: ) and Drakken to worry about. And Bonnie.:)

[trayguy]

I hope they don't breakup in fact I would like to see them get married after high school or college.

[Toon Traveller]

:mad: i just pray it dosen't come to that.:mad:

[RonDrakenfan17]

Bah I don't think Ron's a dork. In fact he's my favorite character, but I did think Kim was being shallow in the movie and did not want them together in the end. I mean come on the food chain? How shallow can you get with that? Plus she just went with Ron after that break up with Erick, please! I hope they break up too, Kim can go live with some high guy who smokes while Ron can go date Zita or Moniuqe. Also I ship Sam/Danny and think there nothing like Ron/Kim, maybe a little but Sam likes Danny while Danny is a little clusless when it comes to knowing about how Sam feels about him. In the end it will all work out for them I'm sure :D

[Alpha Man]

Overall, I've been somewhat neutral to the Kim/Ron relationship. However, I did think that "Emotion Sickness" was handled perfectly!:D Now that I know that Kim and Ron will be dating in the next season, I'm a little worried. I think they're better off as best friends. By the way, I've noticed a trend with TV. If two people are really good friends (if not best friends), they end up dating!? Maybe it's something that all writers push:

Kim/Ron, Danny/Sam, Tawnie/Louis, Lizzie/Gordo, Goliath/Elisa, Robin/Starfire, etc.

Maybe they're trying to send a message to the people: "Hey you! See your best friend of the opposite sex? Yeah, you two are in love. Admit it. Don't make us do it for you. There you go. Ha, we win again."

[Dee]

i know that i can't change the serise.:shrug:
i just quit writeing more of them because i know that they're together.
when i didn't know, my novels were pure gold.
but i can't continue knowing the kim is in love with a dork.
believe me, my novels are completely different from the serise.
if you want to know what their about, i would gladly tell you about my serise.

if you're going to discuss your fanfiction, then it would be better suited for the Story Board because it's indeed nothing more than the creation of a fan, and has no hold on the actual series.

This is the Disney Board, and this thread needs to pertain to their relationship concerning the actual program, not your own created writings. Otherwise, no one understands what's being spoken of, and what is and is not actual concerning the show.

[Peter Paltridge]

By the way, I've noticed a trend with TV. If two people are really good friends (if not best friends), they end up dating!? Maybe it's something that all writers push:

Kim/Ron, Danny/Sam, Tawnie/Louis, Lizzie/Gordo, Goliath/Elisa, Robin/Starfire, etc.

Maybe they're trying to send a message to the people: "Hey you! See your best friend of the opposite sex? Yeah, you two are in love. Admit it. Don't make us do it for you. There you go. Ha, we win again."
It's no hidden message, it's just a staple of TV and of serialized stories in general. The lead male character and the lead female character usually fall in love toward the end. The people want to see it again and again, no matter how many times. It gives 'em a good feeling.

[Antiyonder]

While not all childhood friends end up together, relationships should always start with friendship. Both have the same important requirements: unconditional support, trust and understanding. Not saying that you're implying the opposite, just using your post for my comments.


Overall, I've been somewhat neutral to the Kim/Ron relationship. However, I did think that "Emotion Sickness" was handled perfectly!:D Now that I know that Kim and Ron will be dating in the next season, I'm a little worried. I think they're better off as best friends. By the way, I've noticed a trend with TV. If two people are really good friends (if not best friends), they end up dating!? Maybe it's something that all writers push:

Kim/Ron, Danny/Sam, Tawnie/Louis, Lizzie/Gordo, Goliath/Elisa, Robin/Starfire, etc.

Don't know if Goliath and Elisa fit in the same category, because as the show establishes, they've known each other for two year as opposed to their entire lifetime.


And as stated before, there haven't been complaints towards Aladdin for having two of the main characters a couple. It's all in the writing.

[Hordesman]

I liked the idea of a guy and a girl just being friends, but I did enjoy the build-up to and the resolution in "So the Drama". I do wonder if K/R was resolved the way it was, because Kim ended up being a bit of a replacement when Hilary Duff left... and how did Lizzie's movie end again?

[Zero X Marquis]

Okay....

Wow, um, what's the problem here? I mean, since the first episode you knew the two would get together in the end, So The Drama was intended to be the end. This is a kids show intended for kids, and I know my daughter was excited to see them get together in the end. Yes there are more episodes, a mixed blessing if anything, but have faith.

I

[Antiyonder]

Pretty much, Kim realized Ron has a thing for her, but in conversations with her friend she denies her feelings towards him. Here's the thing, she's not worried about their friendship being ruined by them getting together...she's worried about her image! (or that's what her comments implied).

Or she to could have been concerned about the effect on her friendship, but used the food chain bit as an excuse to dismiss the idea. During the scene Ron apologizes for Drakken getting away, it seems like Kim was hoping for Ron to make a move.



Then she latched onto the first guy she meet, and acts embarrased by Ron throughout the film.(although, i don't blame her for some of this since the writers went out of their way to make Ron look extremely stupid in this move, his voice acting was really off too.)

Then, when the hot guy turns out to be an evil robot (or whatever he was), all of a sudden...Ron's good enough for her!

Some viewers of the movie speculation the attraction was, because Eric was a more mature version of Ron, showing that Drakken certainly did his homework. So, it's less of Ron being good enough for her, but realizing that no imitation measured up to the real thing/person.

[Bones Justice]

Ron actually seems fairly competent to me. He does a lot of the stuff that Kim does, just more on the level of a normal human being. He does a lot of stuff that even normal people have never done (parachuting, hang gliding, etc.) He has some martial arts training and when the moment strikes, he's a master at monkey kung-fu. Kim could do a lot worse.

I'm not sure how I would rate Kim. She's perfect at practically everything, which to nearly anyone but an unassuming guy like Ron might be a little intimidating, especially for high school. It's a little hard to tell how "hot" she is given the style of the cartoon. Nearly ever girl in the show has a tiny waist, etc. She probably is attractive but not the finest girl around. Bonnie is probably considered better looking and at that age, most guys prefer that to a perfect personality, even if the girl is a total [w]itch.

I hope they will not dismiss what happened in the movie. I'm not sure that I want Ron to suddenly start maturing, though. That guy cracks me up!

[Dudley]

I knew those two would get together since the series started.

[cheeno]

Never been a fan of this show,I just thought of it be so not realistic.I dislike the storylines and the characters.(No offense!)

[RedNinja84]

The same old of story of boy gets the girl. I knew too that this would happen from the beginning but I like the way devloped it. I just hope they handle the relationship in a mature way and not a lot of mushy stuff.

[Bones Justice]

Funny thing, last night I caught an episode of Kim Possible, an older episode from 2003 (ie, pre-So The Drama) that I had not seen before titled Grudge Match:


In this episode, Ron is repeatedly telling Kim there are unwritten rules about what types of people can go out with what kind of people. See, Ron has a crush on the new ticket-booth girl at the movies but he thinks she is way outta his league. Kim, of course, says there are no rules and that Ron should just go for it. Ron tries several times to ask this girl out but as his luck always has it, he keeps goofing it up. He ends up buying a ticket to every show at the multiplex in the process.

Later, Kim needs Ron for a mission but Ron is inside the theater, watching a romantic movie alone. Wade announces over the big screen that Kim is waiting for him outside. All of the couples in the theater say, "Oh, how romantic, Kim is outside waiting for you!" thinking it's his girlfriend. And when Ron leaves, he is with Kim and is afraid the ticket-booth girl will see him and Kim together and get the wrong idea.

Now here's where it gets interesting. Kim rolls her eyes and totally scoffs at the idea that they would ever be out on a date together. I got the feeling that she was saying she would never be caught dead going out with him, actually. Do you think the writers had it in mind at this point in the series that they would end up together? Because it sure didn't seem like it here.

The episode ends with Ron hooking up with the ticket-booth girl. I doubt she was ever seen again, though.

Some other notes from the episode:

Shawnee Smith does the voice-over for a hot scientist. She's not too shabby in real life, either!

In one scene, after Ron buys a ticket, I could swear there are two lesbian females on a date together in line for tickets. (To paraphrase Seinfeld) not that there's anything wrong with that, I was just kinda surprised to see that on Kim Possible.

[I.R Joey]

Funny thing, last night I caught an episode of Kim Possible, an older episode from 2003 (ie, pre-So The Drama) that I had not seen before titled Grudge Match:


In this episode, Ron is repeatedly telling Kim there are unwritten rules about what types of people can go out with what kind of people. See, Ron has a crush on the new ticket-booth girl at the movies but he thinks she is way outta his league. Kim, of course, says there are no rules and that Ron should just go for it. Ron tries several times to ask this girl out but as his luck always has it, he keeps goofing it up. He ends up buying a ticket to every show at the multiplex in the process.

Later, Kim needs Ron for a mission but Ron is inside the theater, watching a romantic movie alone. Wade announces over the big screen that Kim is waiting for him outside. All of the couples in the theater say, "Oh, how romantic, Kim is outside waiting for you!" thinking it's his girlfriend. And when Ron leaves, he is with Kim and is afraid the ticket-booth girl will see him and Kim together and get the wrong idea.

Now here's where it gets interesting. Kim rolls her eyes and totally scoffs at the idea that they would ever be out on a date together. I got the feeling that she was saying she would never be caught dead going out with him, actually. Do you think the writers had it in mind at this point in the series that they would end up together? Because it sure didn't seem like it here.

The episode ends with Ron hooking up with the ticket-booth girl. I doubt she was ever seen again, though.

Some other notes from the episode:

Shawnee Smith does the voice-over for a hot scientist. She's not too shabby in real life, either!

In one scene, after Ron buys a ticket, I could swear there are two lesbian females on a date together in line for tickets. (To paraphrase Seinfeld) not that there's anything wrong with that, I was just kinda surprised to see that on Kim Possible.


That's funny I always interpreted that scene as a huge hint as to where things were going with them. Ron even said something along the lines of "it could happen."

[RedNinja84]

Funny thing, last night I caught an episode of Kim Possible, an older episode from 2003 (ie, pre-So The Drama) that I had not seen before titled Grudge Match:


In this episode, Ron is repeatedly telling Kim there are unwritten rules about what types of people can go out with what kind of people. See, Ron has a crush on the new ticket-booth girl at the movies but he thinks she is way outta his league. Kim, of course, says there are no rules and that Ron should just go for it. Ron tries several times to ask this girl out but as his luck always has it, he keeps goofing it up. He ends up buying a ticket to every show at the multiplex in the process.

Later, Kim needs Ron for a mission but Ron is inside the theater, watching a romantic movie alone. Wade announces over the big screen that Kim is waiting for him outside. All of the couples in the theater say, "Oh, how romantic, Kim is outside waiting for you!" thinking it's his girlfriend. And when Ron leaves, he is with Kim and is afraid the ticket-booth girl will see him and Kim together and get the wrong idea.

Now here's where it gets interesting. Kim rolls her eyes and totally scoffs at the idea that they would ever be out on a date together. I got the feeling that she was saying she would never be caught dead going out with him, actually. Do you think the writers had it in mind at this point in the series that they would end up together? Because it sure didn't seem like it here.

The episode ends with Ron hooking up with the ticket-booth girl. I doubt she was ever seen again, though.

Some other notes from the episode:

Shawnee Smith does the voice-over for a hot scientist. She's not too shabby in real life, either!

In one scene, after Ron buys a ticket, I could swear there are two lesbian females on a date together in line for tickets. (To paraphrase Seinfeld) not that there's anything wrong with that, I was just kinda surprised to see that on Kim Possible.


Actually her name was Zita and she reappeared in Virt-U-Ron. That was her last apperance.

[trayguy]

I believe season 4 will be this fall. Looking forward to it.

[TenderArchu]

Kim & Ron are a total mismatch. but even if they manage to marry kim might get the pefect last name"Kim unstoppable":sad:

[TenderArchu]

Kim & Ron are a total mismatch. but if they marry, kim might gett the perfect last mame"Kim unstoppable!":sad:

[Lonestarr]

I like that Kim and Ron are together. However, I hate that the efforts to do so had to occur over the course of the season. Allow me to explain:

This is one of those couples that I like, but just about everyone hitting you over the head with it makes me question why I like it. What's more, try to support a different pairing and people regard you like you were covered in boils.

This is not helped by that cancer of modern-day TV cartoons: dropping these would-be cutesy bits of nonsense about whether or not the two characters will get together. It might be nice for some people, but, at the end of the day, that is a very poor reason to watch a cartoon.

The third season of KP is particularly guilty of this, playing to the shippers while disregarding the rest of us. The best episode from that season was the uber-shippy "Emotion Sickness", but it was so in spite of the shippiness: the Possibles talking with Ron and esp. Ron's 'psychiatric' session were master strokes and a good deal more memorable than the jibber-jabber about relationships.

Alas, the balancing of shippiness and the regular elements was handled rather artlessly elsewhere: among "Bad Boy's" many debits was a nauseating scene meant to echo the situation of the show, and there's a truly inexplicable outburst in "Overdue" that has nothing to do with...anything, really. It's a supposed attempt to include this in the seasonal arc, but it came off as pointless. "Gorilla Fist" was another episode where the regular elements offset the shippiness. Unfortunately, the shippiness was determined to gain the upper hand. It did, with Kim losing her cool when Yori showed up needing Ron's help.

"So the Drama" toned down the cutesiness and told a well-layered tale, leading to a satisfying conclusion on a number of fronts.

I'm a little apprehensive about the newest season (not so much for the romance; the creators were once runners on "Aladdin", which successfully balanced romance and adventure), but this is due to the inexplicable personality changes of Ron; his voice certainly wasn't that high when the show started.

I have a feeling that things might turn out all right.

[DarkGojira]

Never been a fan of this show,I just thought of it be so not realistic.I dislike the storylines and the characters.(No offense!)

Then why did you even bother posting in this topic if you don't like the show?

[Antiyonder]

Kim & Ron are a total mismatch. but if they marry, kim might gett the perfect last mame"Kim unstoppable!":sad:

Not far off. Her middle name is Ann as in Ann/Un Stoppable.

[MGFanJay]

I hadn't even thought of them getting married... that'd be neat, given how perfect they are for each other. I'm glad they kissed at the end of the movie, and that they'll be a couple in the series. They compliment each other perfectly, and I hope they don't break up as the show progresses.

[HarleyQuinn]

I think this season well be very intresting...thats all I can say.

[katluvscake]

Yeah I am excited for this coming season to see what the outcome of the realationship is. I bet they are just going to keep the question up in the air though.

[Uncle Beaglebub]

I expect S4 to be just as entertaining as the rest of the episodes. The show has Gauranteed Quality ~ I know I will enjoy a new episode before I ever watch it. It's such a fun, sweet cartoon.

[I.R Joey]

I expect S4 to be just as entertaining as the rest of the episodes. The show has Gauranteed Quality ~ I know I will enjoy a new episode before I ever watch it. It's such a fun, sweet cartoon.

Still very leary about this show continuing after the movie.

Where's Tuscon anyway, he like vanish or something?