Eureka 7 Promo!

[Ultra Mike]

When watching my tape of Samurai Champloo last night, I noticed between the act break they played a promo for Eureka 7. Surfing while going next to a giant robot and all. According to the promo, The show's premiering Saturday (well Sunday tehcnically) April 15th (well 16th technically) at 12AM, meaning it's replacing (probably) the repeats of FMA. Which shouldn't matter since the important Season 2 repeats are still on Monday (I'm hoping). I hope this show turns out to be as good as the synopsis of it states it to be.

[li_mangaman]

No, FMA is sliding to 11:30PM, according to the [adult swim].com schedule.

Anyway I have to see this promo. Does anyone have a guess of when it'll be on again?

EDIT:
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[Andrew T. Hingson]

Your best bet would be during Inuyasha tonight perhaps or any time after 1AM on weekdays. As we all know anime promos just don't seem to air early in the block.

It's kinda a shame it's airing at Midnight when it could air at 11PM on Saturday but I'm guessing AS just doesn't want to show anything fresh between 11-12AM because that hour on Saturday just doesn't seem to be working out for them.

And perhaps there is another reason why they chose to put Eureka 7 at Midnight rather than in the 11 hour...

[Duke]

Saw the promo during IY. That promo was...horribly generic. Pretty, but generic.

[Brent Long]

Saw the promo during IY. That promo was...horribly generic. Pretty, but generic.

Agreed, though this series appears quite generic to me as is, so maybe it's appropriate.

[Youko Recca]

On the real, Williams Street beat selection has been slacking more and more as time passes. Promo WAS generic. Mad generic.

[Demonic Raven]

The promo itself was pretty good. It's the show itself I'm worried about now.

From the looks of things, it looks like a pure blooded Toonami-worthy show. Not even a borderline AS/Toonami show, just Toonami. So...what's the big idea? Does it get darker later on or something?

I'll watch it either way, of course..I don't really care what it looks like or where it is if it's a good show, but the typical Adult Swim viewer may not be as kind or flexible.

[TylerL]

ASF has it now.
Yes, I did something.

[Andrew T. Hingson]

The promo itself was pretty good. It's the show itself I'm worried about now.

From the looks of things, it looks like a pure blooded Toonami-worthy show. Not even a borderline AS/Toonami show, just Toonami. So...what's the big idea? Does it get darker later on or something?

I'll watch it either way, of course..I don't really care what it looks like or where it is if it's a good show, but the typical Adult Swim viewer may not be as kind or flexible.

Back when CN had more vision (before ASA took away most of it's edge) Bandai would have put it on Toonami with the neccessary edits and just let kids cope with the more serious stuff. As on the surface it certainly does look like Toonami fair. If CN still had that kind of vision they'd have put it on Toonami with a TV-PG-V rating (it wouldn't need more than TV-14 uncut but it does get rather violent I hear).

The same goes for Bleach, though in that case it's more violent (but easier to edit) and doesn't even have the depth that Eureka 7 boasts later on in the series. Where it has some real FMAish, EVAish and FLCLish stuff happening including bleeding robots and really messed up stuff (or so I hear).

But I still believe both were better suited for Toonami but despite Bleach being better suited for Toonami it's easy to get into and doesn't look juvenile on the surface so it'll do okay with the AS viewers. Eureka 7 though... on the surface it looks like a kids show (despite the noted TV-14 rating in the promo) and seriousy... it's got sky surfing giant robots. Robots are hard enough to sell these days but sky surfing ones on Adult Swim? It seems like an oxymoron. None the less Eureka is apparently a great show and could appeal to the audience if they don't shun it from the begining.

[DragonPup]

From the looks of things, it looks like a pure blooded Toonami-worthy show. Not even a borderline AS/Toonami show, just Toonami. So...what's the big idea? Does it get darker later on or something?
Yes. And no, I am not talking about Talho's (lack of) clothing or Holland's use of 4 letter words.

[Karl Olson]

That promo was mediocre at best. I hate to say mean stuff like that, but if that were the first thing I ever saw for the show, I'd be turned off. There are better songs in the show, some which would have allow them to give it this totally FLCL-promo vibe, and they missed it. Have Renton's VA do the narrative and it would have been awesome.

Aw well, something I should cut for laughs at a later date once the DVDs and OST(s?) are out.

[SokkaBoSiegel]

That promo was mediocre at best. I hate to say mean stuff like that, but if that were the first thing I ever saw for the show, I'd be turned off. There are better songs in the show, some which would have allow them to give it this totally FLCL-promo vibe, and they missed it. Have Renton's VA do the narrative and it would have been awesome.

Aw well, something I should cut for laughs at a later date once the DVDs and OST(s?) are out.

Yeah, in my case it was the first thing I saw for this show and it was a turn-off. That being said, I'll still watch for sure, as Im sure most anime viewers will, but I cant say it would excite me as an outsider like that amazing promo for the last episodes of FMA or even the new Samurai Champloo one

[Jedah Dohma]

Pretty generic promo. I don't think the average AS viewer will find this too intriguing, but I'll still watch this regardless.

[Lord Mawdryn]

IMO, the only reason why Eureka 7 is on Adult Swim is because Toonami is pretty much locked in place for the foreseeable future and Adult Swim Action doesn't really have anything else now that Full Metal Alchemist has completed its run and we're now more than half-way through Ghost In The Shell 2nd S.A.C. Gig.

Adult Swim needs two new action shows far more than Toonami right now, and if they can get by with minimum edits for Eureka 7 and Bleach, then it'll be considered adult enough.

But I do think that if things were different for Toonami--if it was still a weekday afternoon block during the good old days--Eureka 7 would definitely have been there and would have been promoted like Naruto...

[Karl Olson]

Yeah, in my case it was the first thing I saw for this show and it was a turn-off. That being said, I'll still watch for sure, as Im sure most anime viewers will, but I cant say it would excite me as an outsider like that amazing promo for the last episodes of FMA or even the new Samurai Champloo one

It's a way better show than that promo lets on, seriously. It's Studio Bones (aka the studio that adapted FMA to anime,) doing their first in house original, and it's a pretty impressive show. One could argue it's the most griftastic show ever produced (and the manga only exacerbates that view for me) but at the same time, it's really well-made (something you can't see in the crappy sped up clips in the AS trailer,) it infuses some new and strangely pertinent elements, it tells a neat story and it somehow oozes cool from every facet of the show. I can't even really properly phrase it, but in two words, I'd say it's "high quality."

Gah, I might have to work out someway of cutting a promo for this ahead of broadcast just to help push the show. It's probably of the best series aired in 2005, but it's also been a bit under hyped because AS will be the first exposure to the series to a lot of people inside the hardcore fandom itself.

in the meanwhile, check out the promo on Bandai's site. it's a bit better:
http://eurekaseven.bandai-ent.com/multimedia/

PS: Eureka's probably on AS because it isn't the most quickly paced series - about FMA speed, and it does get more violent and screwed up as it goes on (plus the teenage sexuality is a bit more forward - something that just makes too many people, well, parents cringe.) The only thing that's probably kept it as reasonable as it has been is because it's aired in an 8am slot in Japan as part of a kids' block. Even then they cross some lines. Besides, they probably wanted another FLCL, and Eureka's about as close as you're gonna get.

[herbkir]

The Bandai E-7 promo is far superior to the AS one. The difference is incredibly obvious when seeing them one after another.Bandai's gives E-7 an FLCL vibe with music that reminds me of the FLCL soundtrack, and hints at a complex blend of action, romance, drama and comedy elements. In short, it's exciting. The AS promo, by contrast, is bland and generic and hints at nothing much beyond the giant robots. In short, it's dull. Which isn't what a promo is supposed to be. AS should have gotten the Bandai promo instead of making up their own. (^_*)

[adoptedBatpuppy]

I haven't seen it, but I'm already excited! :anime:

[sl4]

ASF has it now.
Yes, I did something.

Curse you! I was going to get it but somehow EyeTV didn't record two nights ago when the promo's airing was first recorded ;_;

(Yes, I was actually going to contribute to the site, no lie.)

-ur good pal maiku-tan

[livingfruitvirus]

The Bandai E-7 promo is far superior to the AS one. The difference is incredibly obvious when seeing them one after another.Bandai's gives E-7 an FLCL vibe with music that reminds me of the FLCL soundtrack, and hints at a complex blend of action, romance, drama and comedy elements. In short, it's exciting. The AS promo, by contrast, is bland and generic and hints at nothing much beyond the giant robots. In short, it's dull. Which isn't what a promo is supposed to be. AS should have gotten the Bandai promo instead of making up their own. (^_*)

FLCL music would discourage me more from watching it.

Only problem with that promo is it's a minute too long. Cram it down to 30 seconds, and maybe we'll have ourselves a working TV promo.

[Andrew T. Hingson]

IMO, the only reason why Eureka 7 is on Adult Swim is because Toonami is pretty much locked in place for the foreseeable future and Adult Swim Action doesn't really have anything else now that Full Metal Alchemist has completed its run and we're now more than half-way through Ghost In The Shell 2nd S.A.C. Gig.

Adult Swim needs two new action shows far more than Toonami right now, and if they can get by with minimum edits for Eureka 7 and Bleach, then it'll be considered adult enough.

But I do think that if things were different for Toonami--if it was still a weekday afternoon block during the good old days--Eureka 7 would definitely have been there and would have been promoted like Naruto...

But you aren't factoring in something. As full as the schedule is, Toonami still has room and will have more. Certainly enough for 2 shows (1 now, 1 in Fall).

1, Eureka could be on Toonami about the same time it premieres on AS because even when IGPX comes back they'll still have an extra slot which is just a Naruto encore. (and they could put that Naruto encore at 7:30 instead of DBZ is they MUST have one). That spot could also go to The Batman this Summer so I figured they wouldn't use it for a new show (and no I don't mean Eureka airing that early it'd air at 10PM or something and the rest of the schedule would adjust accordingly (no big jumps of course). Even so I'm more willing to let Eureka 7 slide because it wouldn't really have been a hit on Toonami even at it's best and it's got content that makes it worthy of Adult Swim (besides just a lot of blood spray - unlike Bleach).

2, when IGPX finishes, then what's Toonami going to air? It should have been Bleach. Heck if I know what it is now. I hope it's Prince of Tennis or a surprisingly good out of the blue series I don't even know about yet.

Toonami had space. Viz and Bandai decided to try their luck with 18-34 with these due to the popularity of Inuyasha and FMA (in the case of Viz... uh Naruto's doing better but Bandai didn't really have anything particular to go off of as all their stuff on Toonami hasn't done so great lately). Or perhaps CN passed on them (and I couldn't begin to fathom why at this point they can obviously show TV-PG-V and that'd be enough to allow edited dubs that aren't hackjobs of any kind).

Honestly it just doesn't make sense to me. But what's done is done.

[Lord Mawdryn]

But you aren't factoring in something. As full as the schedule is, Toonami still has room and will have more. Certainly enough for 2 shows (1 now, 1 in Fall).

1, Eureka could be on Toonami about the same time it premieres on AS because even when IGPX comes back they'll still have an extra slot which is just a Naruto encore. (and they could put that Naruto encore at 7:30 instead of DBZ is they MUST have one). That spot could also go to The Batman this Summer so I figured they wouldn't use it for a new show...


The thing is, though, is that the Batman and Dragonball Z will return to the lineup along with Duel Masters 2.0. That likely will take us up to the Naruto encore, which is likely doing well enough ratings-wise to stay in the lineup for the foreseeable future.



2, when IGPX finishes, then what's Toonami going to air? It should have been Bleach. Heck if I know what it is now. I hope it's Prince of Tennis or a surprisingly good out of the blue series I don't even know about yet.


It could very well be the latter, but my guess is the new Fantastic Four series. But even if that doesn't come to pass, it will take--at the bare minimum--three months for IGPX to complete its run, and that's assuming that the entire series isn't repeated from scratch, which would then double it to six months.

In comparison, Adult Swim needed a show right now. With Full Metal Alchemist completed and already being repeated on Monday nights, it couldn't really afford to run the entire 51-episode series from scratch for the next year. A new series was needed right away to keep Saturday night afloat and Eureka 7 was available and ready to go.

Bleach is probably going to take over for Ghost In the Shell S.A.C. 2nd Gig. 2nd Gig is already being repeated on Wednesday nights, IIRC...

Personally, I agree that Toonami could have definitely squeezed in both Eureka 7 and Bleach, but I really do believe it was more of an case that Adult Swim needed action shows far more than Toonami did right now. If anything, the "loss" of those shows to Adult Swim may make room for even more new properties on Toonami later on.

[DragonPup]

Like I said before, there's a good number of reasons that Eureka 7 won't work on Tonnami. Without giving much away, There's some episodes that are amazingly violent, yet key parts of the story. Way too messy for Toonami.

[Dr. Anime]

Like I said before, there's a good number of reasons that Eureka 7 won't work on Tonnami. Without giving much away, There's some episodes that are amazingly violent, yet key parts of the story. Way too messy for Toonami.

yeah I read a summary of one of the episodes and it said it got pretty violent. Anyway the Bandai trailer of the show rocks and trust me I don't think anyone will be disapointed, I know mech haters who love Eureka 7.

[Timmay]

I'll say the first few episodes scream Toonami.. which is fine up until you figure out that there are people inside the mechs, and some freaking 12 year old is killing people without realizing it. From there on out, you realize that this isn't a Toonami fit.

[Space Cadet]

I'll say the first few episodes scream Toonami.. which is fine up until you figure out that there are people inside the mechs, and some freaking 12 year old is killing people without realizing it. From there on out, you realize that this isn't a Toonami fit.

Wouldn't you say the same thing about Gundam? There are people controlling the mobile suits yet Toonami showed Gundam Wing, etc.

[Duke]

Gundam Wing is a bloodless war, so that's not a good example. Now, MSG, 08th MS Team, 0080, and SEED are good examples.

[Ultra Mike]

And also, besides Gundam Wing (and to a lesser extent SD Gundam) weren't the other Gundam shows all failures on Toonami and weren't able to produce very high ratings at all? (Which is why some of them were shoved to the wee night hours/had premieres on Adult Swim/ didn't get too many rerun cycles on Toonami). I think that in general kids are sick of most mecha things anyway which is another good reason that Eureka 7 fits AS. Maybe adults aren't big fans either, but at the very least a good number of late generation teenagers would watch it, and it wouldn't need the highest ratings to sustain a run on AS. (Since AS seems to take more risks with shows then Toonami, which explains why Paranoria Agent got a chance).

[Timmay]

It's a particular scene I'm talking about.. that's the equivalent of Toji's scene in Evangelion. Also in Gundam series there's atleast some sort of war being waged.. and the characters for the most part have some reason to fight. Renton meanwhile doesn't seem to have much of a reason to fight, so it's pretty shocking when he goes into a blind rage and comes out of it in a disturbingly bloody scene.

[AkirQueen]

Ok, is it just me, or do the two main characters look an awful lot like Gwen and Ben from Ben 10?

[Anyone00]

Ok, is it just me, or do the two main characters look an awful lot like Gwen and Ben from Ben 10?

I only see the Eureka/Gwen similarities. (http://forums.toonzone.net/showthread.php?t=163938)

Always nice to know I'm not the only one that thought that when they saw Eureka in the promo... I'm not insane...really I'm not...because time is a pirate ship that has to be completed to proceed:D

[Hyper Shadow X]

From what I saw the promo looked nice looking forward to seeing this next week.

[Rurouni Kenshin]

The show looks alright, I'll give it a chance.

[Karl Olson]

Ok, is it just me, or do the two main characters look an awful lot like Gwen and Ben from Ben 10?


Personally, I see Renton as partially Noata from FLCL and partially Sasshi from Abenobashi, except with brown hair. Eureka radiates Nadia from Nadia: The Secret of Blue Water to me with a serious side of Comet from Cosmic Baton Girl Comet-San, and with a good piece Rei Ayanami from Evangelion in the mix too, all with blue hair. Cause you gotta have the blue hair. However, they are more than the some of their references, cues and grifts.

[HellCat]

Gundam Wing is a bloodless war, so that's not a good example. Now, MSG, 08th MS Team, 0080, and SEED are good examples.

Calling SEED a good example of war is laughable, especially when death is so easily retconned to a lost limb or a scar or two if the director decides a character is 'cool'.

[Furu]

Calling SEED a good example of war is laughable, especially when death is so easily retconned to a lost limb or a scar or two if the director decides a character is 'cool'.

Mwu: Hey kids! Floating in space without a helmet is perfectly okay! You won't die....as long as you can make the impossible possible!

Okay, back on topic, E7 would not work on Toonami. At all. Despite the robots and young protaganist, the show is *very* much like FMA. Lots of religious elements, symbolism, violence that can't be covered with digital paint, and a couple of Eva-esque moments thrown in for good measure.

It takes a couple of episodes to get off the ground, but when it does, it soars. Everyone should be doing their best to get others to watch this show, because it deserves to be a hit.

[Classic Speedy]

The promo was pretty cool- for some reason the animation and art style reminded me of FLCL.

[Lachesis]

Personally, I see Renton as partially Noata from FLCL and partially Sasshi from Abenobashi, except with brown hair. Eureka radiates Nadia from Nadia: The Secret of Blue Water to me with a serious side of Comet from Cosmic Baton Girl Comet-San, and with a good piece Rei Ayanami from Evangelion in the mix too, all with blue hair. Cause you gotta have the blue hair. However, they are more than the some of their references, cues and grifts.

When I first saw Eureka, I thought of Scheris from Scryed and Miharu from Gasaraki.

[Ykwia]

Uh, It is sutible for toonami, and the violent is acceptable for Toonami.

[Karl Olson]

Uh, It is sutible for toonami, and the violent is acceptable for Toonami.

Initially yes, later no. It would be a good Toonami title, except that it gets dark, and since it seems like Toonami wants easy to parse plot, Eureka eventually gets shot down in percieved suitability too.

[Furu]

Uh, It is sutible for toonami, and the violent is acceptable for Toonami.

Watch Episode 20 and get back to us on that.

Or any episode AFTER episode 20, for that matter.

[Dr. Anime]

Watch Episode 20 and get back to us on that.

Or any episode AFTER episode 20, for that matter.

yeah I heard that episode 20 was violent and had huge plot twists. if you watch the trailer on Bandai's website for Eureka Seven you'll see that the show is pretty violent (mechs explode and blood comes out)

also I was looking ahead at the scheudle on adultswim.com and for the 29th they have 12:00 listed at TBD instead of Eureka 7. I wonder why?

Saturday April 29th

11:00 Inuyasha
11:30 Full Metal Alchemist
12:00 TBD
12:30 Ghost in the Shell
1:00 Neon Genesis Evangelion
1:30 Cowboy Bebop

I'm sure it means nothing, but still I just wanted to point that out.

[Swordfish_II]

Because they didn't want it to be announced early. The same reason they pulled the ad on The Fix.

[adoptedBatpuppy]

I just saw the promo! Eurika Seven looks like IGPX and Scryed put together, animation wise! :p

[Furu]

I just saw the promo! Eurika Seven looks like IGPX and Scryed put together, animation wise! :p

It's actually more FLCL-meets-FMA if anything.