The New Superman Movie Thread...

[ZorBrak]

300 posts goody goody-
OK, well I have been thinking, if Batman Year One is a clean start on the series why are they not restarting Superman too? Frankly, I think that is stupid and I didn't care for the last 4 all that much, simply becuase they coulda been better, (I mean the spinning the world backwords thing was just stupid.) If they are restarting Batman, I want Superman to be restarted too, Superman 5 doesn't sound all to exciting, why can't it be a retelling of superman's orgins? now I know the film's productions and scripts haven't been set into stone, but I think its not the right time for a "The Death of Superman" Movie but it is time for a fresh start.
That way, the two film series, that being the new batman one, and this upcoming superman film can co exist in the same film universe which will lead up them up to team up films...now techinically the Christopher Reeve Superman universe which I am assuming is the one this new superman film takes place in, just doesn't seem dark enough....I know the Chris reeve films take place in or around the late seventies or early eighties, and thats when the year one guys are planning to make year one take place but I don't think it sounds too good intergrating this new film with, the other four, I say a retelling of both heroes orgins is what they need to do, and personally I would prefer them take place in a more modernized time, rather than the seventies, any thoughts on this?

[ZorBrak]

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[Kal-el]

Weren't the previous 4 Superman movies based on pre-crises continuity? If so, any new Superman movie would seemingly be a re-telling telling of the mythos from a post-crises standpoint. If that is to be, many things would be different. A "Death of Superman" film could eventually be included in that re-telling (if the comic book continuity were to be followed). The animated continuity would be another different version of the story.
I think a retelling of Clark's/Superman's later developing years and his emergence in Metropolis would be interesting, sort of a "Superman: Year One" type of story. This, and subsequent films, would stand apart from the first four films. It could be done, and with the effects technology of today, I think it could be very well done.

[ZorBrak]

ditto, I was thinking, a "superman: year one" sorta thing myself, what if they released both batman year one and a superman year one type movie around the same time? that would be a really cool way to hype up following incarnations and possible team up films.

[Kal-el]

I would like to see them in the same film universe, much as they are in the same animated universe. A team up movie down the road would be cool, if it was done right.
Those involved with the films would have to be fans of both heroes, not just out to make movies to sell toys and happy meals. That is were my biggest fear lies...in the people making the films. They, alone (ahem Mr. Shumacher)can ruin what could be great movies.

[Nightwing]

Originally posted by Kal-el
It could be done, and with the effects technology of today, I think it could be very well done.

That's the general reason for why I agree with Superman "starting over" so to speak. I still love the original Superman movie, but the whole series has that old fashion type feel. I think an update would be awesome. Maybe for the next generation, so to speak.

[Terminatah]

Leave Batman: Year One alone.

-Terminatah

[ZorBrak]

....no one is saying anything about messing with Batman year one.....we are saying the next superman movie should be like it retelling clark's orgins....

[Terminatah]

Unless you meant for this Superman series to be written by Miller & Aronofsky, a crossover would cheapen their current work.

-Terminatah

[Barb Gordon]

I've been thinking about a Supes movie too. Anyone notice that the olds one have been on a lot lately? One is on right now actually,lol. I would love to see another Supes movie, because the others were made quite a while ago, it definetly needs an update.

Barb^-^

[ZorBrak]

Originally posted by Terminatah
Unless you meant for this Superman series to be written by Miller & Aronofsky, a crossover would cheapen their current work.

-Terminatah
first of all, I never ment that superman shoudl appear in batman year one, I just said a crossover movie should happen down the road, Superman is a big priority to WB, he is an American Icon, much more so than Batman and now more than ever people are into patriotism, they would make sure people enjoyed it, and they would probably never make anything as horrid as Batman and Robin again, and all the DC movies don't depend on two men, all they have to do is hire good writers, it would not cheapen Millers and Aronofsky's work by having the characters appear on the same screen. batman and superman work together all the time and I am not saying that superman should appear on the same screen anytime soon, I would think both characters would need several films before a crossover, but do not just bash an idea when you don't even know for sure it wouldn't work. how can you say having superman co exist in the upcoming batman film universe cheapen work? Last time I checked Superman does exist in every universe Batman does.

[Cassandra]

I agree, it's time for a new movie.The old ones are still good-er, well, some of them were-okay, the first one was good, but it looks dated. I guess the ideas are to have a year one superman movie, or a death of superman movie- anyone heard anything else?

[Terminatah]

I'm aware that Superman exists in the same universe as Batman, as he is mentioned in the Year One comic book. But it is a sad fact that producing a worthy movie based on these characters is extremely difficult (I don't think I have to mention any specific evidence). A potentially great Batman franchise could be negatively affected by whoever helms this Superman series. If Year One should spawn any sequels, I'm sure I'm not the only one who wouldn't want to corrupt the storyline because of Warner Brothers' possible crossover demand. Don't forget these are the same people who wanted to retell the Death of Superman with Nicolas Cage. THEY SIGNED PAY-OR-PLAY CONTRACTS, PEOPLE. THE FANS END UP SUFFERING IN THE END. NICOLAS CAGE IS BUYING SNAPPY SUITS WITH OUR SOULS.

-Terminatah

[Karkull]

I agree--why continue a failing movie series from almost twenty years ago (Superman III and IV were not as good as the first two...and I didn't like them much either, :rolleyes: ). They should start the franchise over...and skip the damn Death of Superman storyline (in retrospect it was really stupid).

[Kal-el]

Starting the Superman franchise over is needed now. The other 4 movies are outdated. IMO, the most important thing is to have a good reason (reason, script, actors, director, etc...) to make another movie. Same goes for Batman.
The story must be well told and not hastily done. Don't do a movie just to do it. The plot has to be feasible, and even somewhat relevent to the mythos of Superman. It also needs to be creative. You look at movies like "The Matrix" or "Unbreakable"...they were creative plots. True, there was no established history to draw from, but the history that post-crises Superman has established is full of possibilities for a great script and plot.
If it doesn't happen, we fans will definitely dissect it frame by frame. It could be brutal.

[Cassandra]

From what I hear it seems to be really difficult for Hollywood types to write a movie based on a comic book charecter. They allways feel the need to screw with the charecter concepts, or make it more "mainstream". I understand they make the movies to make money, but it's not like there's a shortage of people out there who are familiar with these charecters. Get somebody from the animated batman/superman to write one, or someone with experience writing them in comics- Sure, these guys are used to writing in a different medium but a good story is a good story.
Supposedly the wonder woman movie went through all these rewrites and at the end of it all the story was STILL so bad all they could do was scrap it and start over. Tell me a comic book writer couldn't do better than that.

[ZorBrak]

its becuase movie execs are stupid, they would hire Paul Dini, Alan Burdett, or whoever but they think that the comic dialog and plots are too cheesey and wouldn't work in live action films, which is stupid, we all know, the dialog for the current DC animated shows is very intellegent, not this "Don't worry Robin I'll save you!" "back away you feind!" kinda stuff hero toons had back in the day..stupid movie execs...

[peterparker05]

If a new Superman movie was made as an update, I have two villains in mind. Lex Luthor and a retrofitted Bizarro who could be more vicous.

Also, I've been looking at the Wizard magazine, Who Would You Cast In..... articles and I was wondering.

WHO WOULD YOU CAST IN A NEW SUPERMAN MOVIE? YOU CAN PICK AN ACTOR FOR EVERY CHARACTER YOU CAN THINK OF WHETHER YOU THINK THEY'LL APPEAR IN THE MOVIE OR NOT.

[ZorBrak]

well, I think if this many of us agree right of the bat that the series should be restarted it proves WB are notpaying enough attetion to fans, while I think a Death of Superman movie might be decent IT ISN'T TIME for one