Is "A Goofy Movie" really a sequel to Goof Troop?

[Shantosh9500]

When i asked my friend whether "A Goofy Movie" is a sequel to Goof Troop or not. Some says no and some says yes. So i'm kinda confused here because there are a few continuity nitpicks:

1. In Goof Troop, Pete has a wife (Peg) and a daughter (Pistol) but in the movie they never appeared or even mentioned. Did Peg and Pete divorced?

2. Its not just Peg and Pistol who were missing, Chainsaw (Pete's psychotic dog) and Waffles (Goofy's cat) also never appeared in the movie.

3. In the series, Pete is a salesman selling used cars but in the movie he and Goofy are baby photographers? I know Pete was doing really bad business but i don't think he would give it up just like that.

4. Goofy's house looks alot nicer than it did in Goof Troop. Even the neighborhood looks different.

5. Goofy seems to have a new car!

So can anyone help me? Is it really in the same continuity?

[Dr. Daedalus]

Hey, a lot can happen between pre-teen and high school years. ;)

[j32885]

That time I saw "A Goofy Movie", PJ and Max were a lot older than they were in the TV show Goof Troop. So, that makes the movie a direct sequel.

Click Here for more infomation about Goof Troop.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Goof_Troop

[adoptedBatpuppy]

Hmm.. It's hard to say! :sad:

[Wussycat]

1. In Goof Troop, Pete has a wife (Peg) and a daughter (Pistol) but in the movie they never appeared or even mentioned. Did Peg and Pete divorced?

That seems likely.

2. Its not just Peg and Pistol who were missing, Chainsaw (Pete's psychotic dog) and Waffles (Goofy's cat) also never appeared in the movie.

Maybe Waffles died and Peg took Chainsaw with her when she left?

3. In the series, Pete is a salesman selling used cars but in the movie he and Goofy are baby photographers? I know Pete was doing really bad business but i don't think he would give it up just like that.

Maybe his business went bankrupt?

4. Goofy's house looks alot nicer than it did in Goof Troop. Even the neighborhood looks different.

Maybe Peg got Pete's house, then Pete and PJ moved, and Goofy decided to move near him?

5. Goofy seems to have a new car!

He got a new car.

[Mercy Drive]

Because of the constant rifts they had, it makes sense a divorce would eventually occur, they could have been seperated or on vacation, I guess only an interview with the writers can settle that. And Pete still had custody of PJ, I would say Peg giving up her first born shows the split was not as bad as it appears (and if that is not the reason, how sexist are you Peg taking the girl with you?)

I refuse to even count "Extremly Goofy Movie" because it was awful and a poor send off to the show, but if you notice in it, Pete seems to have mellowed and talks like Goofys' freind during his one cameo in the film.

[Wussycat]

I hated how Max wasn't with Roxanne in An Extremely Goofy Movie. They brought her back in House Of Mouse, but he has a different girlfriend in Twice Upon A Christmas.

[Eric Brown]

The GOOFY MOVIE a sequal ? No. I would classify it as a "theatrical companion" to the TV series. Some other examples listed below.

This movie was origially going to be a direct to video release. As production progressed, it was realized that they had a really good movie and it was decided that this thing would be a theatrical release.

When I went to the theater to watch the movie, I was expecting it to be an extension of the TV series and anticipated seeing all of the TV series characters. I was initially dissapointed in seeing a complete format change and voice casting change for Max. However, as the movie went on, I accepted the changes and viewed the movie as an entity all its own. Apparently they decided that they didn't need the full cast of characters from the TV series, because this was a movie about Max. The animation quality and color were excellent (produce primarily in France). The music and story were, OK. The character designs were excellent. I particularly liked Roxanne. TV crtitics Siskel and Ebert gave this movie 2 "thumbs up".

In 1995, I attended a little presentation by Bill Farmer (Goofy) at an animation art gallery, where he spoke quite a bit about this movie. One of my questions to him, was that the character BOBBY did not receive any voice credit in the end credits. Bill said the voice was provided by Pauley Shore and since Pauley's movie projects had been pretty bad up to this point, he may not have wanted his name attached to this project. Even so, this movie still remains as one of my favorites. I even had to buy the sound track CD.

Anyway, as stated above, here are some examples of TV cartoon series , all animated "companion theatrical" movies (not sequals)...........

Hey There It's Yogi Bear
The Man Called Flintstone
Jetsons, The Movie
Ducktails (The Treasure of.....something. Can't remember full title)
Spongebob Movie
Rugrats Movies
Wild Thornberry's movie.
Teachers' Pet movie
Gobots movie?

Can anybody name some more?

THANX

[Mandi-chan]

I choose to think that Goof Troop and A Goofy Movie are not connected or part of the same continuality since I hated GT with a passion yet loved AGM.

There are too many things that prove there's no connection.

Like Pete for example; for starters, he's Goofy's friend in the Goofy movies. He even gives Goofy advice and tries helping him out (something friends would do). In the Goof Troop show it was quite clear that he hated Goofy with a passion and would try to get rid of him, I don't see how that would have changed.

Peg and the daughter are absent in the movie, I know they could have gotten divorced but I don't buy it when the mother and daughter are never mentioned or referred to in the movie at all.

I guess it's just how you choose to see it, since there's has been nothing released on whether it's connected or not (even if they do come out and say they're connected, I'll look the other way because I hated Goof Troop and don't want to ruin my feelings for the movies.).

[Mercy Drive]

Ducktails (The Treasure of.....something. Can't remember full title)

Treasure of the Lost Lamp

The Gobots movie was called "Planet of the Rocklords"

Margot Kidder was in that.:anime:


Can anybody name some more?

Recess: Schools' Out (dovetails into DVD specials and follow ups)

Hey Arnold: The Movie was set before "The Journal", which was to have led to the unfilmed sequel movie and the real series finale

[tb4000]

I choose to think that Goof Troop and A Goofy Movie are not connected or part of the same continuality since I hated GT with a passion yet loved AGM.

There are too many things that prove there's no connection.

Like Pete for example; for starters, he's Goofy's friend in the Goofy movies. He even gives Goofy advice and tries helping him out (something friends would do). In the Goof Troop show it was quite clear that he hated Goofy with a passion and would try to get rid of him, I don't see how that would have changed.

Peg and the daughter are absent in the movie, I know they could have gotten divorced but I don't buy it when the mother and daughter are never mentioned or referred to in the movie at all.

I guess it's just how you choose to see it, since there's has been nothing released on whether it's connected or not (even if they do come out and say they're connected, I'll look the other way because I hated Goof Troop and don't want to ruin my feelings for the movies.).

I think in the series premiere he hated Goofy and his ilk due to growing up with him over the years, but as the show went on, they were somewhat friends, except Pete was just an extremely selfish manipulative friend.

[Starlioness]

[Anyway, as stated above, here are some examples of TV cartoon series , all animated "companion theatrical" movies (not sequals)...........

Hey There It's Yogi Bear
The Man Called Flintstone
Jetsons, The Movie
Ducktails (The Treasure of.....something. Can't remember full title)
Spongebob Movie
Rugrats Movies
Wild Thornberry's movie.
Teachers' Pet movie
Gobots movie?

Can anybody name some more?

THANX[/quote]

oh there's lots of them..

Mr. Magoo's Arabian nights
the Charlie Brown and Snoopy Movies
the Smurfs and the Magic flute
Mighty Mouse and the Great space chase
Care Bears
Here come the Littles
Transformers the Movie
Rainbow Brite and the Star Stealer
Heathcliff the Movie
the Looney Tunes Movies
My little Pony
He-man's Secret of the Sword (maybe)
the Legend of Bravestarr
the Chipmunk Adventure
Robotech
Pound Puppies and the legend of Big Paw
Tom and Jerry the Movie (ick!)
Rocky and Bullwinkle
Gumby movie
Beavis and Butthead
Rugrats(?)
Doug's first movie
South Park
Pokemon
Jimmy Neutron
Digimon(?)
Dragonball Z
Cowboy Bebop
Hey Arnold
Wild Thornberrys
Veggietales (was there a tv series to this one?)
Rescue Heroes
Clifford's really Big Movie
Teacher's PEt
Yu-gi-oh!
Spongebob
PowerPuff Girls
Curious George
Wallace and Gomit
Magic Roundabout(?)

[veemonjosh]

Anyway, as stated above, here are some examples of TV cartoon series , all animated "companion theatrical" movies (not sequals)...........

Teachers' Pet movie


I thought that movie pretty much was a sequal to the series since it wrapped up the story.

[bat313]

It's most defenitely a sequal to goof troop. There was never a scene in the movie that would have called for Peg or Pistol to be in it. Or a scene that called for Waffles and Chainsaw. Both fathers take their sons on a summer vacation to bond, that doesn't mean Peg and Pete got a divorce. Almost the entire movie takes place out of spoonerville anyway. If it was meant not to be in continuity they would have gotten rid of P.J. or calling the town Spoonerville or anything else that was made specifically for Goof Troop.

As for ducktales the movie, it is most certainly a sequal to the series. Just becuase Bubba and Gizmo duck are not in it does not mean the movie is separate. Actually, it might take place before they even meet bubba and gizmo duck. The last episode, the two part "golden goose" has Dijon in it and he already knows of scrooge and vice versa.

[DarthGonzo]

First off...where in "A Goofy Movie" do they refer to the town as Spoonerville? I don't think they do.

Secondly, "Ducktales, the Movie" is very different from "A Goofy Movie". I honestly dont think AGM has anything to do with the television series aside from borrowing the characters of Max and PJ. Aside from that, nothing in the movie bears ANY resemblence to anything from the tv show. On the other hand, DT definitely is a movie version of the tv series, since everything seen in the film (with the exception of a handful of new characters) was also seen in the series. The absense of Bubba or Gizmoduck basically meant the writers of the film were able to concentrate on the real stars of the Ducktales series and also to get the characters back to their roots.

[Peter Paltridge]

Pete went on a lot of excursions by himself in Goof Troop--it's one of the things Peg would get so mad at him for. And the name of the place Goofy lives at in the movie is never said aloud.

I think the inclusion of P.J. solidifies the connection. Pete has been in other cartoons, but P.J. has only been on Goof Troop and this.

[bat313]

First off...where in "A Goofy Movie" do they refer to the town as Spoonerville? I don't think they do.

Secondly, "Ducktales, the Movie" is very different from "A Goofy Movie". I honestly dont think AGM has anything to do with the television series aside from borrowing the characters of Max and PJ. Aside from that, nothing in the movie bears ANY resemblence to anything from the tv show. On the other hand, DT definitely is a movie version of the tv series, since everything seen in the film (with the exception of a handful of new characters) was also seen in the series. The absense of Bubba or Gizmoduck basically meant the writers of the film were able to concentrate on the real stars of the Ducktales series and also to get the characters back to their roots.

You're right. THey don't explicitly call it Spoonerville in the movie, but Pete and Goofy still live next door to each other in a small town. THey never use to be neighbors before goof troop and if the movie was meant to be out of continuity there is no reason to have them still living next door. Or for Pete to still have P.J. as his son. Designs of houses and charaters change all the time, i.e. the car goofy drives. But these both came out around the same time and were certainly meant to tie into one another.

As for ducktales the movie, i was correcting people who were saying it was another example of a tv show with a movie OUT of continuity which it clearly is in continuity in ducktales.

[DarthGonzo]

THey don't explicitly call it Spoonerville in the movie, but Pete and Goofy still live next door to each other in a small town.

What indication do you have that Goofy and Pete live next to each other in the movie? That's never shown. It IS shown that they're neighbors in "Once Upon a Christmas" though.

[Shantosh9500]

What indication do you have that Goofy and Pete live next to each other in the movie? That's never shown. It IS shown that they're neighbors in "Once Upon a Christmas" though.

There is also a mistake in "Once upon a Christmas". In Goof Troop, Goofy and Max were living in a motor home (i think) before moving next door to Pete but that time Max was like 10 but in OUAC he was younger (maybe seven).

[Kazuya Prower]

Let's not forget Goofy & Pete's designs has changed between Goof Troop & A Goofy Movie.

[bat313]

Let's not forget Goofy & Pete's designs has changed between Goof Troop & A Goofy Movie.

So did scrooge's design from ducktakes season 1 to 2. It always happens. Face it, Disney purposesly tries to make thing fit into continuity. Whether the writers Disney hires do enough research to aviod continuity errors seems to vary from show to show. I.E. scrooge in Mickey's Twice upon a xmas has gray feathers which he did not have in Ducktales and the Mansion looks all wrong. Just like Goofy and Pete look different in a Goofy Movie as well as thier houses and cars ect... But Disney makes sure voice actors are kept the same or at least try to sound the same, that relationships stay close to what they should be, the characterization remains the same, character motives....

If they did not want a goofy movie connected to gooftroop, they would not have used Pete and P.J. ( the only two things he's ever appeared in and the forgetable extreme goofy movie) It's like how darwkwing duck and ducktales are connected. If i want darkwing out of continuity with ducktales i don't borrow launchpad or gizmoduck. You make new characters, give it a different feel, do something to make it look different. But it's not, its all the same whether you want to believe it or not.

[J. B. Warner]

I never really interpreted "A Goofy Movie" as a theatrical continuation of "Goof Troop", but rather as a movie that drew on inspiration from the TV show. It utilizes the four central "Goof Troop" characters, but with slight revisions to both their character designs and personalities (and their voices, in Max's case). It's no different from the how "Goof Troop" utilized a slightly revised version of Goofy from the theatrical Disney shorts, or how "DuckTales" used a slightly revised version of Uncle Scrooge and Huey, Dewey, and Louie from the comic books, or - most notably - how "TaleSpin" used very revised versions of Baloo, Louie, and Shere Khan from "The Jungle Book". It's Disney's way of treating their cartoon characters as actors, and placing them in varying settings with varying personalities.

[DarthGonzo]

So did scrooge's design from ducktakes season 1 to 2. It always happens. Face it, Disney purposesly tries to make thing fit into continuity. Whether the writers Disney hires do enough research to aviod continuity errors seems to vary from show to show. I.E. scrooge in Mickey's Twice upon a xmas has gray feathers which he did not have in Ducktales and the Mansion looks all wrong.

Scrooge didn't change between seasons on Ducktales. The ANIMATION switched soley to Wang, but the character designs stayed the same.

Scrooge in all productions since Ducktales ended has grey feathers in order to make him look closer in appearance to the Scrooge who appeared in "Mickey's Christmas Carol". My guess is that this is the version of Scrooge Disney wants to embrace, since this version appeared theatrically alongside several classic characters. But what makes no sense is that neither Barks comic creation or the Scrooge that appeared in "Scrooge McDuck and Money" have these grey feathers. So the whole thing is rather odd.

And I'm sure the mansion looked different in "Twice Upon a Christmas" to intentionally set it apart from the mansion on Ducktales.

[AdamYJ]

Y'know, I don't think it matters too much.

If you want it to be a continuation of Goof Troop, just think of it that way. If you don't want it to, then don't.

I think the major thing we got out of this movie was the knowledge that Max (and to a lesser extent, PJ) was a character that was going to stick around for a while. I believe A Goofy Movie was made, for the most part, to capitalize on a period of time when Goofy was rather popular (just like Goof Troop was). They brought in a slightly revised Max in that movie, and he hit pretty big. After that, he's been in House of Mouse and both "Once/Twice Upon a Christmas" movies. It's becoming pretty much accepted that Goofy has a son. I mean, how many other characters created largely for a Disney Afternoon show have gone on like this. When's the last time you saw Gizmoduck, Darkwing Duck or Monterey Jack appear in a modern production? Probably not ever. Max's hit the big time!

[bat313]

Scrooge didn't change between seasons on Ducktales. The ANIMATION switched soley to Wang, but the character designs stayed the same.

Scrooge in all productions since Ducktales ended has grey feathers in order to make him look closer in appearance to the Scrooge who appeared in "Mickey's Christmas Carol". My guess is that this is the version of Scrooge Disney wants to embrace, since this version appeared theatrically alongside several classic characters. But what makes no sense is that neither Barks comic creation or the Scrooge that appeared in "Scrooge McDuck and Money" have these grey feathers. So the whole thing is rather odd.

And I'm sure the mansion looked different in "Twice Upon a Christmas" to intentionally set it apart from the mansion on Ducktales.

I'm pretty sure he had white feathers on the house of mouse in the ep where he bought the house of mouse. And i agree, the grey feathers are very odd indeed. They worked in MIckey's xmas carol becuase it makes him look older than his younger counterpart in the flashbacks, but in 3-d it really looked bad.

As for continuity, i guess we all can agree that Disney leaves things close enough where you can make things connect if you wish or just stand alone. There's never really any direct inferences that things arn't in continuity except for maybe talespin and jungle book which is defenitly a different take on the characters.

[Steve Carras]

[Anyway, as stated above, here are some examples of TV cartoon series , all animated "companion theatrical" movies (not sequals)...........

Hey There It's Yogi Bear
The Man Called Flintstone
Jetsons, The Movie
Ducktails (The Treasure of.....something. Can't remember full title)
Spongebob Movie
Rugrats Movies
Wild Thornberry's movie.
Teachers' Pet movie
Gobots movie?

Can anybody name some more?

THANX

oh there's lots of them..

Mr. Magoo's Arabian nights
the Charlie Brown and Snoopy Movies
the Smurfs and the Magic flute
Mighty Mouse and the Great space chase
Care Bears
Here come the Littles
Transformers the Movie
Rainbow Brite and the Star Stealer
Heathcliff the Movie
the Looney Tunes Movies
My little Pony
He-man's Secret of the Sword (maybe)
the Legend of Bravestarr
the Chipmunk Adventure
Robotech
Pound Puppies and the legend of Big Paw
Tom and Jerry the Movie (ick!)
Rocky and Bullwinkle
Gumby movie
Beavis and Butthead
Rugrats(?)
Doug's first movie
South Park
Pokemon
Jimmy Neutron
Digimon(?)
Dragonball Z
Cowboy Bebop
Hey Arnold
Wild Thornberrys
Veggietales (was there a tv series to this one?)
Rescue Heroes
Clifford's really Big Movie
Teacher's PEt
Yu-gi-oh!
Spongebob
PowerPuff Girls
Curious George
Wallace and Gomit
Magic Roundabout(?)[/quote]

One corrreciton.."Magoo Arabian" (1959) was based back then on a theatrical series, but I can understand the confusion since he IS more rememebr for the television verison (whcih coindcidded with the 1959 Arabian Nights flick, not to mention the fabled Disney 1997 theatrical.:)

[Steve Carras]

The GOOFY MOVIE a sequal ? No. I would classify it as a "theatrical companion" to the TV series. Some other examples listed below.

This movie was origially going to be a direct to video release. As production progressed, it was realized that they had a really good movie and it was decided that this thing would be a theatrical release.

When I went to the theater to watch the movie, I was expecting it to be an extension of the TV series and anticipated seeing all of the TV series characters. I was initially dissapointed in seeing a complete format change and voice casting change for Max. However, as the movie went on, I accepted the changes and viewed the movie as an entity all its own. Apparently they decided that they didn't need the full cast of characters from the TV series, because this was a movie about Max. The animation quality and color were excellent (produce primarily in France). The music and story were, OK. The character designs were excellent. I particularly liked Roxanne. TV crtitics Siskel and Ebert gave this movie 2 "thumbs up".

In 1995, I attended a little presentation by Bill Farmer (Goofy) at an animation art gallery, where he spoke quite a bit about this movie. One of my questions to him, was that the character BOBBY did not receive any voice credit in the end credits. Bill said the voice was provided by Pauley Shore and since Pauley's movie projects had been pretty bad up to this point, he may not have wanted his name attached to this project. Even so, this movie still remains as one of my favorites. I even had to buy the sound track CD.

Anyway, as stated above, here are some examples of TV cartoon series , all animated "companion theatrical" movies (not sequals)...........

Hey There It's Yogi Bear
The Man Called Flintstone
Jetsons, The Movie
Ducktails (The Treasure of.....something. Can't remember full title)

THANX
'DuckTales & The Treasure of the Lost Lamp",iirc.

Incidentally,it doesn't seem like if Pauly Shore might have been embarrassed (and, though he maybe yesterday's news, he is VERY funny---espically in me favorite, "Jury Duty") but maybe Disney may have been embarrassed..
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And (despite my not having a real LASTING liking for this,) I agree about Roxanne,.(And am aware of the voice change in Max from ill-fated Dana Hill to current (UGH!!) "Loonatic" voice, Jason Marsden. I have always wondered qwat had happeend to him..and if he is away relaiion to James Marsden of the cult cheerleader-flick "Sugar and Spice' from 2001.)

[Steve Carras]

BTW MY Formerr avatar (Dame Heather Matarazzo!) should be cast in an animated movie at Disney. If she was good enough for "The Princess Dairies 1 and 2" as Anne Hathway's best friend..she should be good enough for a Disny or Pxiar toon.(No, I am not an agent or anything..)(just a fna..):p

Currently Courtney Thore Smiths in my Icon, and is in Disney services onTouchstone'as Accoridng tyo Jim.And was in as an early role 1975's "Escape to Witch Mountain":.