C&C - Anything Else/Cards - [3/5 - 3/19]

[Tienshin]

Now more than ever before, or again.

[Youko Recca]

Aaron McGruder had some nice choices up there.

[Duke]

You know, I really wish Asheru would make a longer Boondocks theme. That same :32 gets really annoying being looped.

[Rabi~en~Rose]

rabi~en~ratings?


Saturday, February 25th

GitS - 395,000
FMA - 373,000
Evangelion - 346,000

:(


Up - FMA, GitS
New - Evangelion

[peacebyanymeans]

They should just give up on it.

[Maestro]

I'm surprised the 11:00 hour isn't stronger. Maybe they should give it back to anime

[KuwabaraTheMan]

Boo at Sleep Alone Complex.

But YAY for FMA and Eva.

[William C. Maune]

While the ratings themselves are only adequate, it's nice to see GitS on the uptick at least. Interesting to see anime win the night. It doesn't seem as though either action or comedy in the first hour really creates a winning night. Saturday night is just a crapshoot with 18-34s.

[Rabi~en~Rose]

Stroker is poison :mad: it killed Boondocks off of saturday and now VB :crying: throw it off fast like you did Milk Chan!


Sunday, February 26th

F-Guy - 628,000
Orel - 599,000
ATHF - 589,000

no Boondocks? :confused:


Down - F-Guy (x2), Orel
New - ATHF

[William C. Maune]

no Boondocks? :confused:

Considering the ratings for those shows, which mostly surround Boondocks, are all within 40,000 of each other, I'd guess Boondocks was pretty close behind.

[KuwabaraTheMan]

Its awesome to see Moral Orel doing so great. Its been the top show on AS this year.

[TnAdct1]

no Boondocks? :confused: If I remember correctly, last week's Boondocks was a repeat episode. So, it's likely that most people decided not to watch it that week.

[Andrew T. Hingson]

And that week was a rerun so you might say the reruns don't do as well as the premieres when it comes to Boondocks.

EVA got on the top? I'm really rather surprised by this. GitS beat FMA? Well in the long run that could be good since GitS is going to be in premieres quite a bit longer than FMA will be now since ya know FMA is almost done.

[beren]

Why is there a comedy lead in on Saturday again?

[Zyzzybalubah]

Surprised this wasn't mentioned yet, but effective March 27th, Adult Swim weeknights (can't remember if Saturday is effected or not) will be expanded to 10:30 p.m. It was mentioned on commercials during Oblongs and some other shows. So we get one new show to the weeknights (farewell CC show. :() Anyone know what show it is?

[William C. Maune]

Why is there a comedy lead in on Saturday again?

Because ratings were pretty bad due to people not watching. I'm guessing that you were one of the folks not watching considering that the first hour has been comedy since late December.


Surprised this wasn't mentioned yet, but effective March 27th, Adult Swim weeknights (can't remember if Saturday is effected or not) will be expanded to 10:30 p.m. It was mentioned on commercials during Oblongs and some other shows. So we get one new show to the weeknights (farewell CC show. ) Anyone know what show it is?

The Cartoon Cartoon Show was moved to a different slot quite awhile ago. One Piece and Dragonball Z have been airing in the 10pm hour.

[Tienshin]

Surprised this wasn't mentioned yet, but effective March 27th, Adult Swim weeknights (can't remember if Saturday is effected or not) will be expanded to 10:30 p.m. It was mentioned on commercials during Oblongs and some other shows. So we get one new show to the weeknights (farewell CC show. :() Anyone know what show it is?

As of right now the expansion will only affect the weekday slots. I haven't seen any word on what show (or shows in the case of 15 minute originals) might fill that time though. I am guessing it won't be anything new at least for now.

[Ultra Mike]

Although I have a feeling that it will probably end up being Home Movies, I'm hoping that extra slot goes to Space Ghost Coast To Coast. I mean some of the episodes haven't played on TV in years and would be a good gesture to the fans. But I doubt they'll do that, espically since whatever they're putting will need to get at least semi good ratings between 10:30-12:30 (depending on where they put it on the block). Guess we'll just find out when the time comes won't we?

[Space Cadet]

Judging Saturday's ratings, they could give the 11 p.m. to 12 a.m. slot to Toonami and start airing AS at 12.

[KuwabaraTheMan]

Because ratings were pretty bad due to people not watching. I'm guessing that you were one of the folks not watching considering that the first hour has been comedy since late December.


I think he was actually wondering why its there if all the anime is getting better ratings then it.

But its hard to tell a lot of times over the internet(Al Gore should have thought more carefully when he invented it).

[beren]

Because ratings were pretty bad due to people not watching. I'm guessing that you were one of the folks not watching considering that the first hour has been comedy since late December.

Acutally I am one of the people who were very angry they even switched to a lead in on saturday and just wanted to get an extra jab in. I have been watching Adult Swim since cowboy bebop's first run, and I used to watch midnight run before that, so please no more shots in the dark, plus it really wouldn't matter if I was a babe fresh off the street my first post ever, my point is still valid.


I think the problem is AS is commited to short term ratings, that is the major problem with television also, if something isn't an instant hit, it gets the can. It creates lousy shows, and it causes good shows that did not catch on fast enough or got lousy timeslots to be canceled prematurely. In AS case, it has caused people like me to stop watching the block, I watch shows on Adult Swim, I do not however, watch Adult Swim. That is the problem, the soloution would be to focus long term on building an audience for shows, instead of programming for the lowest common denominator short term. That means not screwing with the schedule after 6 weeks, or whatever it was, I bet if they left it all action the ratings now would be higher then they are. Adult Swim really only has 2 blocks, they are not comedy and action, they are Adult Swim fresh, and Adult Swim mold covered, hard as a brick stale.

[Scirel]

Ah Rabi, so now you agree with me now that it's affecting a show you care about. :D

AS, get a clue and take S&H off saturdays. It's been doing nothing but dragging down saturday ever since it premiered. Replace it with either anime or Boondocks.

[Space Cadet]

You know, I still don't know why they took off Futurama off Saturdays last year. It seemed to be doing well(for a Saturday at least) and it's lead-in helped Samurai Champloo get it's highest rating on the block.

[livingfruitvirus]

You know, I still don't know why they took off Futurama off Saturdays last year.

Especially since they're going to double it up Mon-Thurs now at 10:30. Works for Nick at Nite though.

[Zyzzybalubah]

Especially since they're going to double it up Mon-Thurs now at 10:30. Works for Nick at Nite though.

So that's the extra show? Aw... Oh well. :P

[Happy]

I guess they want to suck Futurama dry before they lose the rights.

[Chuquita]

What are they going to use this 10:30 slot for? :confused:
As messily-dubbed as it is I was enjoying Season 3 of dbz. :mad:

[William C. Maune]

Acutally I am one of the people who were very angry they even switched to a lead in on saturday and just wanted to get an extra jab in. I have been watching Adult Swim since cowboy bebop's first run, and I used to watch midnight run before that, so please no more shots in the dark, plus it really wouldn't matter if I was a babe fresh off the street my first post ever, my point is still valid.

While it turns out that I did misinterpret your post, it is easily read as a question and not a jab. Jabs/sarcasm don't necessarily come through too well when written out (such as on the internet). I'm sorry I read too much of the wrong thing into it though.

[Andrew T. Hingson]

What are they going to use this 10:30 slot for? :confused:
As messily-dubbed as it is I was enjoying Season 3 of dbz. :mad:

DBZ will move to 10PM giving One Piece the boot.

Double Futurama? What a freak'n waste. Put Inuyasha back on 4 days a week (but keep the premiere where it is on Tuesday). It should do pretty quite well still.

[Chad Bonin]

I swear, I freakin' know the last guy who says "I am Dr. Wang" in the Minoriteam commercial...

[brianycpht]

Are you kidding me? More Furturama? How does this affect the rest of the block? Do they only replay the 11:00 PM show, or both? Now that is over saturation. How can it still bring in so many ratings after 3 years on the block with nothing but repeats? Guess thats TV for you..

[Duke]

Are you kidding me? More Furturama? How does this affect the rest of the block? Do they only replay the 11:00 PM show, or both? Now that is over saturation. How can it still bring in so many ratings after 3 years on the block with nothing but repeats? Guess thats TV for you..
Considering this is Cartoon Network, Futurama is likely a placeholder, so it'll likely be changing soon.

[Matt Hazuda]

Considering this is Cartoon Network, Futurama is likely a placeholder, so it'll likely be changing soon.Considering this is Cartoon Network, Futurama is likely a permanent addition, so it'll likely be there for a while.

Text altered to reveal CN programming's thoughts :p

[William C. Maune]

I'm also thinking that this will not be the final schedule. Could be, but I doubt it personally.

[Discloner]

Well it can't be there past 2008, so we know it'll be off the slot by then. :p

Eh. Its not like they can jump from CN owning 10/10:30 into airing the Boondocks at 10. They'll probably be wanting to transition that spot with more 'family friendly' AS programming, like Futurama, American Dad, heck if they ever do get that Simpsons licesnse the spot would be great for that as well. It'd be interesting to see if Home Movies or Baby Blues sneak into that spot at one point or another (though the chances of that happening are slim to none I suppose). Still the two are rather mild in compairison to the rest of AS's library.

[Rabi~en~Rose]

Ah Rabi, so now you agree with me now that it's affecting a show you care about. :D

:confused: I never liked Stroker especially not on saturdays but who knew it would make things this bad

[brianycpht]

Something more final might be in place once it goes to 10:00 in June..

[Mog]

I guess since no one else has said anything, I might as well be the first in this thread.

Welcome back Trigun. I missed you.

INITIATE KIRBY DANCE OF [スパー RETURN]!!!!!!111102

<(O.O<) (>O.O)> <(O.O<) (>O.O)> <(O.O<) (>O.O)> <(O.O<) (>O.O)> <(O.O<) (>O.O)> ^(O.O^) (>O.O)> <(O.O<) (>O.O)> <(O.O<) (>O.O)> <(O.O<) (>O.O)> <(O.O<) (>O.O)> <(O.O<) (^O.O)^ <(O.O<) (>O.O)> <(O.O<) (>O.O)> <(O.O<) (>O.O)> <(O.O<) (>O.O)> <(O.O<) (>O.O)> <(O.O<) (>O.O)> ^(O.O^) (>O.O)> <(O.O<) (>O.O)>

I lurve joo.

[Happy]

It has its own thread or was talked about in a talkback, either way I remember there being like three pages about it.


Also, die Trigun, I hate you!

[Master Moron]

I'm not sure why everyone's saying Stroker is killing Saturday's. Saturday's ratings weren't any better before they added it. At the most, Stroker is just sitting there doing nothing. It's not really affecting the block's overall ratings at all.

[Majin_Megabyte]

"Now repeat with This world is made of Love and Peace!" Oh god I love this episode of Trigun so much. hehe

[Scirel]

I'm not sure why everyone's saying Stroker is killing Saturday's. Saturday's ratings weren't any better before they added it. At the most, Stroker is just sitting there doing nothing. It's not really affecting the block's overall ratings at all.

It is hurting saturday in that there was a distinct drop in audience for it every week followed by a rise in audience for the next show(FMA). It was taking away viewers for that half hour who watched both shows.

Now that VB is on saturday, the sucesful boondocks is replaced with S&H? And now we see the anime coming in first on a satuday with an hour of comedy two weeks in a row, somthing which has never happened before.

It constantly did worse in a timeslot where it should have done better. That's why I`m saying it.

[Emperor Fred]

Two Futuramas, eh? Perhaps on this inaugural week of 10:30 Adult Swim we'll finally see that long-delayed "Matt Groening Week"... nah, probably not.

[Rabi~en~Rose]

Two Futuramas, eh? Perhaps on this inaugural week of 10:30 Adult Swim we'll finally see that long-delayed "Matt Groening Week"... nah, probably not.

that would be great!! make it happen AS! :)

[Duke]

o.o I never realized that Mugen used his hidden dagger in Episode 1...

...What's with the quality of tonight's SGC2C? It looks horrible.

[Tash]

I'm sick of Trigun already after episode 4. Please tell me that the show gets good later. (or, at the very least, those two girls get killed off soon)

[Captain Highwind]

Don't know where else to ask this, but what's that song that plays during the recent Samurai Champloo commercial? Is it from a soundtrack or is it just random Williams Street stock music?

[Duke]

Don't know where else to ask this, but what's that song that plays during the recent Samurai Champloo commercial? Is it from a soundtrack or is it just random Williams Street stock music?
I believe somebody said it was from Episode 26 of Samurai Champloo.

[Tenku]

Don't know where else to ask this, but what's that song that plays during the recent Samurai Champloo commercial? Is it from a soundtrack or is it just random Williams Street stock music?

It's neither.

"San Francisco" by Midicronia. :)

[NickWhiz1]

...Wait, since when was 2nd GIG going to be on Friday Night Fix?

[Swordfish_II]

...Wait, since when was 2nd GIG going to be on Friday Night Fix?

Since this Friday.

[Rabi~en~Rose]

...Wait, since when was 2nd GIG going to be on Friday Night Fix?

maybe since Champloo wore out its welcome :confused:

[livingfruitvirus]

maybe since Champloo wore out its welcome :confused:

Champloo reruns are still on FNF.

[Scirel]

I'm sick of Trigun already after episode 4. Please tell me that the show gets good later. (or, at the very least, those two girls get killed off soon)


IIRC, the first five episodes are basically the first chapters of the manga stretched out beyond one's imagination with about 80% padding thrown in.

The Situation in the first half of the first episode, and the ending of the one with the guy with the big fist were one situation over the first few manga chapters. For unknown reasons, the anime decided t would be fun to delay the plot for meaningless filler.

Here's a quick tell to how slow the anime is compared to the manga:

In the manga, Legato appears in volume 2.

In the anime, he first appears in episode 12. End of V2 of the manga= episode 16 of the anime.


But it's not really fair, since the trigun manga is actually still running in japan, and the story has well expanded beyond the part the anime touched upon. not to mention the weakening and replacement of a few charachters in the anime that are still alive in the manga. It' a shame that the anime is mostly based on volume 1, and condensing the events of volumes 2-5 in the same amount of time alloted for V1 + Filler, and making their own ending to boot.

[shoujoaifan]

Robot Chicken, as in the actual cyborg chicken from RC's opening, saving a boy from drug peddlers, and THEN giving each other high fives?

Along with the 80's TMNT ad where the Turtles get a kid to say to the elmentary school drug pedler "I'm not a chicken, YOU'RE A TURKEY!"-

-BEST ANTI-DRUG COMMERCIALS EVAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAR!



P.S.

IRONICALLY, the TMNT ad was only "good" beacause its so laughable, and the TMNT rock and it was the 80's, so its only "good" because its Accidentally-Funny, Nostalgic, and slightly cool as long as you don't tell that to an adult if you yourself happen to be an adult.

P.P.S.

IRONICALLY, the Robot Chicken is NOT just funny for making fun of those cheesy and often unrealistic anti-drug ads, like pot making a girl a 2-D person because she "doesn't do anything anymore"...

...but for...

...well...

...you KNOW...

...

....

.....

......that a giant chicken who's 1/2 robot who looks like he'll could and will kill teenage drug peddlers would probably motivate kids not to drugs BETTER than the real anti-drug ads......

.......and its good to know since AS's beginning that kids watch AS, so that way they'll see the commercial.......

........so Adult Swim is HELPING THE WORLD! ACCIDENTALLY!

P. P. P. S.

.........OH SNAP!

[beren]

where are my ratings at?

[livingfruitvirus]

where are my ratings at?

It's only 12:30 ya dope.

[beren]

Well how the hell would I know it's not like I actually watch AS.

[livingfruitvirus]

Well how the hell would I know it's not like I actually watch AS.

But you said they were YOUR ratings! :shrug:

[KuwabaraTheMan]

Well how the hell would I know it's not like I actually watch AS.

Don't you have a clock?

[beren]

I want to see how the shows I watch do =).

[livingfruitvirus]

Well how the hell would I know it's not like I actually watch AS.


I want to see how the shows I watch do =).

w (picture of a hat) ?

[Rabi~en~Rose]

how are these for ratings?


Saturday, March 4th

FMA - 441,000
Stroker - 396,000
GitS - 380,000

wow :(


Up - FMA (x2)
Down - GitS
New - Stroker

[Beat]

Pro- FMA breaks 400,000.

Con- Stroker. It's been cancelled. Just wither away and die already!

[KuwabaraTheMan]

Hooray for FMA. Boo for Sleep Alone Complex.

[Rabi~en~Rose]

bonus ratings?

Monday - Thursday, February 27th - March 2nd

F-Guy - 953,000
Futur - 759,000
ATHF - 556,000

F-Guy - 804,000
Futur - 667,000
ATHF - 620,000

F-Guy - 911,000
Futur - 532,000
ATHF - 529,000

F-Guy - 820,000
Futur - 601,000
Boondocks - 465,000


weekdays aren't as super as they are made out to be? especially not the much hyped thursday :confused:

[KuwabaraTheMan]

Wow, I thought weekdays were supposed to be better then that...

[Ultra Mike]

Hmmm, weird that they had weekday ratings. Notice how Family Guy did so much better then anything else. That's defintley AS's strongest show, Weekends and weekday.

[livingfruitvirus]

Wow, I thought weekdays were supposed to be better then that...

They certainly used to be.

[Beat]

bonus ratings?

Monday - Thursday, February 27th - March 2nd

F-Guy - 953,000
Futur - 759,000
ATHF - 556,000

F-Guy - 804,000
Futur - 667,000
ATHF - 620,000

F-Guy - 911,000
Futur - 532,000
ATHF - 529,000

F-Guy - 820,000
Futur - 601,000
Boondocks - 465,000


weekdays aren't as super as they are made out to be? especially not the much hyped thursday :confused:

If this isn't their way of telling anime fans to shut up...:sad:

[Rabi~en~Rose]

Sunday, March 5th

Chicken - 722,000
ATHF - 628,000
Orel - 606,000

neat :)


Up - Orel, ATHF
New - Chicken

[livingfruitvirus]

God. Boondocks has lost nearly a third of their audience. I wonder if AS is reconsidering that 20 episode pickup.

[Ultra Mike]

If I'm not mistaken, ATHF was ahead of Oral, not the other way around. Decent all the way around though (but since this was OScar night ratings were bound to be a bit screwy with FG and Boon not showing up).

[Zach Logan]

Yeah, the Oscars picked up the audience from 10-12 most likely.

[KuwabaraTheMan]

God. Boondocks has lost nearly a third of their audience. I wonder if AS is reconsidering that 20 episode pickup.

Right, there certainly wasn't a major television event last Sunday that also kept Family Guy out of the Top 3...

[Andrew T. Hingson]

New Boondocks doesn't make it? Shocking.

Hey FMA breaking 400k is nice.

Stroker made to top 3? Interesting, VB is soooooo dead it's not even funny.

Those weekday ratings are dissapointing and I don't think anyone really expects the anime to be in the top 3 of those but I bet they're all above 400k.

[William C. Maune]

Stroker made to top 3? Interesting, VB is soooooo dead it's not even funny.

Perhaps, perhaps not. Even at #4 for the week, VB's ratings could have been higher than the #1 show for Saturdays in previous weeks. Numbers 1 through 3 were only 60,000 a part, VB may not have been far behind.

[Andrew T. Hingson]

Do you honestly believe that?

You can if you want but Venture hasn't made the top 3 once since it's return and it's on at 11PM where Futurama did great and Boondocks did pretty well. I love VB but I don't think it's ratings are gonna get better until season 2 premieres. They've played those 13 episodes once a week several times and it's gotten old.

[William C. Maune]

Do you honestly believe that?

Yes, I do. This is because the numbers 1, 2, and 3 are meaningless. All that matters are the actual ratings. If we don't know the actual ratings then we don't know how well a show is actually doing.

[KuwabaraTheMan]

Yes, I do. This is because the numbers 1, 2, and 3 are meaningless. All that matters are the actual ratings. If we don't know the actual ratings then we don't know how well a show is actually doing.

Venture Brothers is the only show that hasn't been in the Top 3 though. Even Eva and Bebop have gotten in there. That means its been consistently below everything else, even when everything else sucked.

You say that for all we know its right below the top 3, but its just as likely that Eva and Bebop both have higher ratings then Venture Brothers.

[William C. Maune]

Venture Brothers is the only show that hasn't been in the Top 3 though. Even Eva and Bebop have gotten in there. That means its been consistently below everything else, even when everything else sucked.

Eva and Bebop have also been on the current Saturday line-up a lot longer than Venture Brothers has, and thus they have had more chances to make the Top 3.


You say that for all we know its right below the top 3, but its just as likely that Eva and Bebop both have higher ratings then Venture Brothers.

They might all be right below the top 3, they might all be way below the top 3. The main thing is that we don't know and thus we definitely don't have enough information to declare Venture Brothers "dead."

[KuwabaraTheMan]

Eva and Bebop have also been on the current Saturday line-up a lot longer than Venture Brothers has.
I'm talking about since Venture Brothers joined. Eva and Bebop were just on the Top ratings list.




They might all be right below the top 3, they might all be way below the top 3. The main thing is that we don't know and thus we definitely don't have enough information to declare Venture Brothers "dead."
True, but its certainly not a good sign when at least 3(and based on the ratings for the past few weeks, possibly all 5) shows beat the leadin.

Think of how those shows could be doing with a strong leadin, for example. I mean, Strokers at least 17,000 over Venture, and possibly a lot more, and FMA is nearly 50,000 viewers ahead of Stroker. VB is probably doing more harm then good to the Saturday lineup. With Boondocks or Futurama those ratings could be a lot better.

[William C. Maune]

Except that with Boondocks they weren't really better.

[Master Moron]

Hooray for FMA. Boo for Sleep Alone Complex.

Hmmmm...now that I think about it, perhaps the major does have a sleep alone complex...I mean, I never see her sleeping with anyone...

You know, looking at the weekday ratings, it looks like Futurama has lost quite a bit of its steam. It used to be about equal to the ratings for Family Guy. Now it seems that it has a 200,000 to 400,000 drop off in ratings from Family Guy. I guess losing Futurama to Comedy Central won't be that big of a loss.


Venture Brothers is the only show that hasn't been in the Top 3 though. Even Eva and Bebop have gotten in there. That means its been consistently below everything else, even when everything else sucked.

You say that for all we know its right below the top 3, but its just as likely that Eva and Bebop both have higher ratings then Venture Brothers.

You know, last week people were saying Stroker and Hoop was killing the ratings, and look, this week it's on the top 3.

By the way, am I the only one who's kind of happy that the comedy ratings are down since it makes the action ratings look less bad in comparison?

[MegaJ]

Good for Stand Alone Complex. This season has been a lot better than the first (as in it's coherent and somewhat less chatty), and I'm glad it seems to be catching steam.

[Timmay]

Did I just see a card that quoted landstander or was it my imagination..
something about gunmetal and dolphin.

[The Landstander]

There's another landstander at the as.com forums; it was probably him.

[Andrew T. Hingson]

Hey I'm all for being optomistic about Venture's performance but it's clear it isn't doing anywhere near as well as it did in previous runs and like Kuwaba-kun just said. It could be dead last instead of 4th.

[Rabi~en~Rose]

God. Boondocks has lost nearly a third of their audience. I wonder if AS is reconsidering that 20 episode pickup.

why? other than wasted budget I guess it shouldn't be regrettable to stick with a show they seem to love right?


If I'm not mistaken, ATHF was ahead of Oral, not the other way around.

I'm sorry it was but its fixed now


You can if you want but Venture hasn't made the top 3 once since it's return and it's on at 11PM where Futurama did great and Boondocks did pretty well. I love VB but I don't think it's ratings are gonna get better until season 2 premieres. They've played those 13 episodes once a week several times and it's gotten old.

yeah the reruns are old especially on Saturday so why act surprised and claim it so dead :confused: its also only been on the schedule for 3 weeks up to last nights ratings report and we all know how long it takes saturday viewers to get settled in :sweat:


by the way the weekday ratings cards might be every week now :eek: at least thats what the card implied to me so I better learn to speed type faster?

[shoujoaifan]

IIRC, the first five episodes are basically the first chapters of the manga stretched out beyond one's imagination with about 80% padding thrown in.

The Situation in the first half of the first episode, and the ending of the one with the guy with the big fist were one situation over the first few manga chapters. For unknown reasons, the anime decided t would be fun to delay the plot for meaningless filler.

Here's a quick tell to how slow the anime is compared to the manga:

In the manga, Legato appears in volume 2.

In the anime, he first appears in episode 12. End of V2 of the manga= episode 16 of the anime.


But it's not really fair, since the trigun manga is actually still running in japan, and the story has well expanded beyond the part the anime touched upon. not to mention the weakening and replacement of a few charachters in the anime that are still alive in the manga. It' a shame that the anime is mostly based on volume 1, and condensing the events of volumes 2-5 in the same amount of time alloted for V1 + Filler, and making their own ending to boot.Its been a few years since I read this one interview of the director of the Trigun anime, or someone else involved, so I don't remember all the details, but I remember it saying the director trying to stay away from the dark material as long as possible (I forget if he was going through something at the time, or he just preferred a more light-hearted series). The other people on the staff had to keep bugging him about needing to get to the nitty gritty of the story of the rest of the manga.

That's why the series pulls a 180 around the middle and gets dark. This is why its a miss-or-hit, love/hate moment for alot of fans. Ironically, alot of fans love it, since it kinda throws a puch at them, really driving home the impact of the true nature of Vash's predicament.

IRONICALLY, I guess it kinda works out for people who didn't like the anime AND some fans of the anime:

1) The people who didn't like it could check out the manga to see if they like that better.

2) Fans of the anime who liked either the 2nd 1/2 of the series or both 1/2's would probably enjoy the darker, better paced manga.



P.S. Heard of the new Trigun movie that they'll start working on in a few years? I wonder how they'll handle that, if its just a standalone story, or they super-condense the manga or show. I can't imagine it being a continuation since the anime's been over for almost a decade, and was on late at night (in both countries) that wasn't all that popular in Japan in the first place.

[Zyzzybalubah]

All I gotta say is, what the bloody heck happened to the weekday ratings? Are people finally getting tired of nonstop Family Guy/Futurma?

[Scirel]

P.S. Heard of the new Trigun movie that they'll start working on in a few years? I wonder how they'll handle that, if its just a standalone story, or they super-condense the manga or show. I can't imagine it being a continuation since the anime's been over for almost a decade, and was on late at night (in both countries) that wasn't all that popular in Japan in the first place.

that's a good question. I was wondering about the movie as well, but until a site is put up about it, I`m putting it in the same pile as Live action evangelion and all those live action anime movies they say will be made but we never hear about again.

Trigun and Samuai Deeper Kyo are alot alike in this respect. They're both extremely long running manga in japan( SDK recently went over 300 chapters) that got shortchanged in getting only 26 episode anime series that cut the stories off before or just as they really got going.

[Rabi~en~Rose]

if the Trigun manga is that popular to keep going on so long then how did the anime get such poor treatment :confused: even though I like the anime if theres a whole lot more content then a proper remake is needed :(

[Rurouni Kenshin]

I have a question, I've been following the Saturday's airings of EVA, and I just watched my tape of it today, and I was wondering why is the Eva's bleeding, I thought they were just robots, I think I missed something important in the begining episodes when they explained the Eva's.

[Duke]

I have a question, I've been following the Saturday's airings of EVA, and I just watched my tape of it today, and I was wondering why is the Eva's bleeding, I thought they were just robots, I think I missed something important in the begining episodes when they explained the Eva's.
They were created in the image of Adam. In essence, they are modified clones of the first angel, Adam. (aka the glowing Eva-thingy that appeared when they keep flashing back to Antartica)

[Rurouni Kenshin]

They were created in the image of Adam. In essence, they are modified clones of the first angel, Adam. (aka the glowing Eva-thingy that appeared when they keep flashing back to Antartica)

Alright, that clears up that question, but raises another, last episode, or the one that aired on Saturday said when the Angel was attacking that Adam was underneath the base, is something that will be explained later or did I miss something.

Sorry but these questions, but for whatever reason I find this show hard to follow at times. Its good, but oh so confusing.

[Duke]

Alright, that clears up that question, but raises another, last episode, or the one that aired on Saturday said when the Angel was attacking that Adam was underneath the base, is something that will be explained later or did I miss something.
Remember the episode where Misato got drunk and had a heartfelt talk with Kaji? And then later in that episode she orders Kaji to open the secret door in Terminal Dogma, only to find the giant white creature with the mask on its face and spear on its chest (you'll see it again this week)? That's Adam.

Oh, and for those who have seen the rest of the series, do NOT spoil anything relating to what I just said.

[Rurouni Kenshin]

Remember the episode where Misato got drunk and had a heartfelt talk with Kaji? And then later in that episode she orders Kaji to open the secret door in Terminal Dogma, only to find the giant white creature with the mask on its face and spear on its chest (you'll see it again this week)? That's Adam.

Oh, and for those who have seen the rest of the series, do NOT spoil anything relating to what I just said.

I think your an episode of me there, I'm following the Saturday airings, but its not your fault, thanks for helping.

[Duke]

I think your an episode of me there, I'm following the Saturday airings, but its not your fault, thanks for helping.
Well, you've seen Adam already, even in the Saturday airings. It was in the episode 15, when Shinji & Gendo visited Yui's grave, Asuka & Shinji kissed, and Misato, Ritsuko, and Kaji visited the friend's wedding.

[Rurouni Kenshin]

Well, you've seen Adam already, even in the Saturday airings. It was in the episode 15, when Shinji & Gendo visited Yui's grave, Asuka & Shinji kissed, and Misato, Ritsuko, and Kaji visited the friend's wedding.

Wait, what, I remember that episode but not that scene for some reason, but since it appears this week again I should be alright.

Thanks for clearing this up for me:)

PS. Like the new avatar Duke, it looks like someone from Seed, but can't place who.

[Duke]

Wait, what, I remember that episode but not that scene for some reason, but since it appears this week again I should be alright.
Well, I meant this week's Thursday episode. In the Saturday run it'll be in 2 weeks.


PS. Like the new avatar Duke, it looks like someone from Seed, but can't place who.
Shinn Asuka, aka the main character in Destiny (and before anybody says so, let's NOT turn this into a Destiny character spotlight debate thread).

[Scirel]

Shinn Asuka, aka the main character in Destiny

LOL

But you said not to start, so I won`t.:evil:


Anyway, what episode number is Tomorrow's EVA?

[Swordfish_II]

Anyway, what episode number is Tomorrow's EVA?

22.

[Matt Hazuda]

Any reason a new topic wasn't started for this week?

[Tienshin]

Any reason a new topic wasn't started for this week?

Nope. No reason at all.

Well, aside from me forgetting to do it.

[Duke]

You know, they should've had that guy who lost his arm in Episode 1 (and tries to get revenge in Episode 2) be the major evil bad guy during the final 3 instead of the boat ship guy. That would've been awesome.

Y'know, Mugen never DID get that nookie...

I had forgotten the bamboo fight was in this episode.

[Space Cadet]

I always love the scene with Brock and Molotov Cocktease.

[Rabi~en~Rose]

I just noticed how depressing VB's bumps are :(

inferiority complex
expired
you could be here

don't remember if Boondocks had them to but I wonder if they're a knock at saturdays lack of viewership