February ASJ - Why We Love JLU!! - FINAL IMAGES!

[Outlander00]

We have have quite a few pics that came to pay homage to JLU and Timm's creative team that brought us some of our favorite series such as BTAS, STAS and Batman Beyond.

With Bird Boys gracious hosting of the pics, I proudly present to you all the final homage drawings that you, the fans, have done to say "Thank you".

You may view the pics here! (http://www.worldsfinestonline.com/WF/sections/fanworks/creations/artjam/)

[GohanWinner]

Very excellent stuff, everyone. =) Seriously, I love all of 'em and a good deal of them gave me some nice laughs.

Too bad my stuff looks like child scribbles thanks to my scanner not picking up color pencils well and all the crisp CG stuff. Oh well. Next time. :P

[Revelator]

Yarharhar takes the cake.

[Salvor]

Great job guys. My favs are Silver Knight's stylish take on the lovely couple, Outie's dark / somewhat nostalgic depiction of the Watchtower and psi_freak's cool Nightwing... but they all look good!

[klammed]

Kudos to EVERYONE! Great stuff.

Love Borg's one, it brought a nostalgic smirk/grimace to my face.

And James, that Bruce head is freaky... :D

[MR.MXYZPTLK]

There all great, though I really like yar har hars. Very funny

[John Cage]

Thank you, Borg 4of3. Thank you, very much.

Have a good day.
John Cage

[psifreek28]

Thanks alot! I love them all! They all brought smiles to my face. Great homage work for the DCAU.

And my stupid email tells people my name is psi_freak, but it's really psifreek. ::sigh:: :sweat:

[NightwingAngelo]

The Nightwing is funny, but aw man... I can't believe I didn't get that Nightwing series. :sad: I forgive you too Bruce!... sort of. ;) LOL!

The Brainiac one is downright hilarious! Love it.

The one by Outlander... So sad, but still great. Sniff.... :sad: :( :crying:

[SilverKnight]

Dude. Cham, you kicked my ass. :crying:

You suck. Here, have a cookie. >gives Cham a cookie<

Nice stuff, all. Yarharhar's is great. Very nicely done. :D

[James]

Borg4of3's is awesome. For those who don't know, he's the guy who's added all those flash menus to the WF website.

Silverknight - I really like your WW. I recall (if memory serves) Christopher Jones saying how he found Diana the hardest JL character to render. That reminds me, we lost that interview, an archive.org search maybe required to find that..

I know we have some more to come in (I know Stu did one which is absent), so please, the more the merrier!

[Artimus Gigan]

I know we have some more to come in (I know Stu did one which is absent), so please, the more the merrier!
Meh I think I'm going to have to pull my entry out, it didn't get past the rough states(I had a few paintings due ATT), and being that it's already March I'm going to wait for this month's ASJ

[James]

We have some changes to the All Star Jam for this month.. watch this space.

And for those who worked so hard on this, your work is now on display at the Drawing Board Website as well as the World's Finest Website!

http://drawingboard.toonzone.net/main.php?g2_view=core:ShowItem&g2_itemId=1160

BTW, Bic, love your angel one, reminds me of that one you did OMG, around 4 years back?? Yarhaha, that is amusing. The hair is a bonus.

[The Guitar Slayer]

James -- you are evil. I gasped and then burst out laughing. Fantastic; you nailed Bruce perfectly. Am I wrong to think you drew some inspiration from Timm, related to what he originally wanted for Mr. Freeze? ;)

Borg4of3 -- lovely as usual. Your individual style always stands out, and in a good way.

Bic -- beautiful rendering of the "Lost Little Girls" of DCAU -- Talia, Annie, and Ace.

SK -- I remember you laboring over this -- so much effort! It came out very well to boot. Good job!

Yarharharhar -- Though James steals the "So Perversely True" prize, you definitely make good competition. Hair!

psi_freak -- I think that's what every Nightwing fan wants to see. It may be the thing of dreams, but still a nice thought put to paper. Good show.

[G-Man]

When is the next Fan art contest gonna start? whats gonna be the theme?

[Dens Maris]

I love them all, but I'll be the first to say that Outlander's is particularly...":crying:"

[GCFyouthcamper]

Mine was supposed to be titled "Continuity." I forgot to put that on there. what do you guys think of mine?

bic... bwana beast, right? it looks like an animation cell! and tali, ace and annie, that is flawless artwork.

borg4of3, cool idea how you made amazo like spectre and ra's is like the toy. and an unknown identity of red hood... jason todd? and the black mercy to top it off.

caped_crusader, i like your shadings and use of markers.

captain infinity, wouldn't we all like to see that? my money's on kyle. and your second picture, the one that looks like an Infinite Crisis cover, wow.

james, that is one cool concept. Bruce Wayne CAN live forever!

outlander, i've always liked silhouette pictures and this one is so tastefully executed.

psi-freak, sheer genius on the bruce double meaning.

screwonhead, now that's a team! nice art.

silverknight, i like the way you draw.

yarharhar.... downright hilarious!

[Peter Paltridge]

Mine was supposed to be titled "Continuity." I forgot to put that on there. what do you guys think of mine?

bic... bwana beast, right? it looks like an animation cell! and tali, ace and annie, that is flawless artwork.

borg4of3, cool idea how you made amazo like spectre and ra's is like the toy. and an unknown identity of red hood... jason todd? and the black mercy to top it off.

caped_crusader, i like your shadings and use of markers.

captain infinity, wouldn't we all like to see that? my money's on kyle. and your second picture, the one that looks like an Infinite Crisis cover, wow.

james, that is one cool concept. Bruce Wayne CAN live forever!

outlander, i've always liked silhouette pictures and this one is so tastefully executed.

psi-freak, sheer genius on the bruce double meaning.

screwonhead, now that's a team! nice art.

silverknight, i like the way you draw.

yarharhar.... downright hilarious!
All right, final straw. I've been checking in on this topic and getting further insulted every time--everyone's been mentioned BUT me. I CONTRIBUTED TO THIS TOO.

Are my drawings really that bad?

[James]

All right, final straw. I've been checking in on this topic and getting further insulted every time--everyone's been mentioned BUT me. I CONTRIBUTED TO THIS TOO.

Are my drawings really that bad?

Of course they aren't. In fact, it was nice to some attempts to add some variety in the form of strips. The b.t one was pretty effective.

However, you are judging everyone as a collective against you. There were several people I didn't mention. I mentioned a few that sprung to mind. So did others. If you're pictures been missed out in comments, that is a great shame, I certainly admit that but it can happen. Same as sometimes a good picture will get no replies on a standard thread, it doesn't mean it's hasn't any quality. It's been overlooked.

Look how many comments, say Borg4of3 has had and yet I imagine everyone here put a great deal of time into their pictures, but no one is shouting that his pic is "hoggin'" the comments!

The DB is very laid back with hopefully a good vibe. We all hope that every gets the attention they deserve, but sometimes people fall through the cracks and as I said, that's a real pity. This had only been the first day though. I can bet someone in the next couple of days would have posted about yours.

You see, get all frustrated is non condusive. It doesn't change the circumstance, nor does it naturally incline people to comment on your work without feeling pressured.

We don't ask people to comment, we don't demand people to comment. That way when they do, it's a nice feeling. :)

Stop being so antagonistic and aggressive. You're getting paranoid. You could have found a better way of asking people to comment on your picture without resulting to accusations of unfairness.

[Yarharhar]

Wow, lot of awesome pictures, I must say. Of course B'wanna "Disco" Beast is brilliant. Borg and Milkman get the 'most stuff happening at once' award from me. And caped crusader, I am most impressed by the fact you can successfully draw a batarang in perspective, that is something I am STILL not able to do.
GCF, I like the pic, the only thing that bugs is some of the feet are on top of other feet.

James, I did not expect a humorous picture from you(especially in the creepy "not-to-far-off-from-the-truth" kind of way), now I feel compelled to challenge you in the april fools ASJ.

Thanks for the nice comments everyone!

[Borg4of3]

All right, final straw. I've been checking in on this topic and getting further insulted every time--everyone's been mentioned BUT me. I CONTRIBUTED TO THIS TOO.

Are my drawings really that bad?
As the guy 'hogging the thread', I still understand how ya feel. I mean, has anyone tried to identify all the things in mine yet, or looked at any of the individual elements in there? No!* Am I bitter? Yes, but that's cause I'm an horrible, horrible egotist who believes he should be worshipped and adored and, if not, I then proceed to hate everyone forever. Hey, to thine ownself and all : p Well, more to the point, everyone here put great effort into these, and it does feel like an insult when it appears that it goes overlooked.

But, one problem with complaining like that is that if anyone comments on your work after you complain, it'll be less for the virtue of your own work and just to assuage you. Still, guess it also prods further discussion that might have gone unsaid, as is my case. Yours, in particular, were pure fun. I enjoyed the Zatanna one more, if just because a few friends and I got into a Zatanna discussion and it was the perfect thing to link to, and we all loved the bit of wordplay there - it's also good because it seeks to give credit where credit tends not to go, kinda fitting considering the circumstances *nudges you, then cheers the overworked Koreans* By the way - Darkseid silhouette? Awesome.

Okay, just realized there's so many entries, indepth discussion would be a little... odd. So, anyone thinking they're not getting their due, just remember that a lot of people are viewing these, and all of these works help to revive memories in us about, well, the topic theme, and those thins you drew about why you love the JLU helps us to remember why we loved it. Thanks for the works!

*(And GCF did look on the individual parts! Yay you for proving me wrong : p)

[Yarharhar]

I mean, has anyone tried to identify all the things in mine yet, or looked at any of the individual elements in there?

You mean like the harley preggers with the future mom(or dad?) of the dee dees?:D

[James]

You mean like the harley preggers with the future mom(or dad?) of the dee dees?:D

The word preggers actually makes me feel physically ill. If I could get the authority to ban on that word I would.. ;) But I haven't, so you're safe.

Borg's comments are very true. We ALL have egos - this is art, by defintion it's the expression of ego. In all honesty, I don't think comments ever can truely satisfy them. I bet everyone wishes people said a little more about their pieces. So yes, I sympathise with both ends of the spectrum of Borg and MI (well, okay a little more with MI as Borg is "hoggin" the thread ;)).

Anyhow, to answer Borg's question, yes, I did look at the individual elements. Personally, when I was looking at his piece (and a couple of others here - Bic's being one), I was more interested in the art than the character depictions. Specifically the crisp linework. I recognized the future elements (and personally was very impressed in the Titans render, wish I done that in DKA), but for me, it was the whole composite that was interesting. Despite the nature of the topic, I guess I'd be more inclined to comment on those values than the intergal story values in the piece.

Here of course lands another problem which in a sense CAUSES problems. If I was to breakdown Ian's work here (what characters I loved, what he did with the composition, his own inclusion etc etc), it creates pressure to do it to all the pieces. I know I haven't that time at the moment, so I make comments fairly short as not to give so much to one, the others seem lacking. Of course, this brings us back to a situation where some might not get comments!

In the end all we can do is hope that enough people will be kind enough to post a response that all pictures are mentioned.

As staff we do our best to make sure that all work here gets a look in, but we don't want to create an atmosphere where one is forced to.

Yes, it sucks when no one comments. I've posted work on other boards and got zero. I've sent work off to companies and got zero back. It happens, you just have to hug your ego and deal with it and hope next time, you get some comments back. Of course, as I said, even then, they are never enough....

[Trevor Balena]

I mean, has anyone tried to identify all the things in mine yet, or looked at any of the individual elements in there? No!
Ooh! Ooh! I can do that!

Let's see. The theme seems to be things that we'll never see in the DCAU -- or at least won't see enough of -- and is therefore sufficient to make me cry. But at any rate, from top down, we seem to have: the Cassie Cain Batgirl, the cast of The Zeta Project, Warhawk, adult Terry McGinnis Batman, Hades (?), Wonder Woman facing off against her greatest foes (Circe, Silver Swan, Dr. Cyber, and Cheetah), Harley Quinn pregnant with one of the Dee Dees' parents, AMAZO as the Spectre, Dr. Psycho, Bane, Talia, Ra's al Ghul, Power Girl, Batman and Catwoman making kissy faces at each other, the Red Hood, Captain Marvel and Superman making nice-nice, Young Justice, Roxy Rocket, and Nightwing.

And no, it never hurts to dream.

Great job everyone! But Martian Invader, while I love your strip -- especially the "chain-smoking, underpaid Koreans" joke -- wouldn't the Rats gag at the end have made more sense if Zatanna had shouted "Star!" instead of "Stars!"? After all, on TT they call her the former, not the latter... and "Stars" backwards is "Srats", not "Rats"...

[SilverKnight]

All right, final straw. I've been checking in on this topic and getting further insulted every time--everyone's been mentioned BUT me. I CONTRIBUTED TO THIS TOO.

Are my drawings really that bad?>flick< Cool it. Of course everyone saw yours; was the only reason you joined in this ASJ was to hear how great everyone thought it was? The point of a ASJ is to have fun and work with others to make a nifty final product...thing. I liked yours; I liked the comic strip elements and found them pretty funny. They were cute and I enjoyed them. Satisfied? You're golden. Now hush. :p

James, you're evil. Pure, unadulterated evil. The worst thing about your piccy is...I can totally see it happening, and that is wrong beyond belief. Remind me to stab you with a spork sometime.

Oh, and Chammy my boy, I could identify about 2/3 of the people there, but I have to say the purple guy with the mask and horns that looks like a rejected RPG villain is lost on me. Oh, and Terry! Woo! >huggle Borg and showers him in cookies<

You still suck, by the way. :p

[Peter Paltridge]

Great job everyone! But Martian Invader, while I love your strip -- especially the "chain-smoking, underpaid Koreans" joke -- wouldn't the Rats gag at the end have made more sense if Zatanna had shouted "Star!" instead of "Stars!"? After all, on TT they call her the former, not the latter... and "Stars" backwards is "Srats", not "Rats"...
Originally she yelled "Star," but once I finished Starfire's dialogue it no longer fit. She was talking about many, many people, which requires more than one star. Plus, if Zatanna just yelled "Star," people might think she was yelling Starfire's name, which wasn't what was going on.

I know it's "srats" backwards, but I figured not many people would really care as long as they got the main idea.

[adoptedBatpuppy]

Wow! Cool, There are some made up superheroes cool! I wish I could have contributed to this... Maybe, next time.

[GCFyouthcamper]

uhm, sorry for posting the final straw, martianinvader.

For what it's worth, you got Starfire's character down pat. That "Under-paid Koreans" bit did make me laugh... but I sort of failed to get the stars/rats joke in the end until i read the other posts.

[Salvor]

All right, final straw. I've been checking in on this topic and getting further insulted every time--everyone's been mentioned BUT me. I CONTRIBUTED TO THIS TOO.

Are my drawings really that bad?
Excuse my French but how the hell is this kind of post supposed to fit a thread like that? This is a place to celebrate the DCAU universe, to say thanks to a great creative team which has obviously inspired us all, including you... and ALL you can think about is yourself. This kind of agressive complaint about being overlooked isn't just egoistic, it's plain pointless in this thread.

Please keep in mind this is a tribute event, the whole goal is to forget about our egos a bit and focus on depicting what we've loved for so many years. If no one comments on or even likes your piece, why should you care? You did your thing well, you made a great personal contribution to this tribute, and it's all that should matter to you.

Also, you should know, the Toonzone Drawing Board is by far one of the nicest drawing boards on the web. Believe me, a couple of years back, some people on other boards were a lot less easy on me than the people here, A LOT less... but that's something I was longing for, feedback, really bad or really good, as long as I could improve.

[Peter Paltridge]

Excuse my French but how the hell is this kind of post supposed to fit a thread like that? This is a place to celebrate the DCAU universe, to say thanks to a great creative team which has obviously inspired us all, including you... and ALL you can think about is yourself. This kind of agressive complaint about being overlooked isn't just egoistic, it's plain pointless in this thread.

Please keep in mind this is a tribute event, the whole goal is to forget about our egos a bit and focus on depicting what we've loved for so many years. If no one comments on or even likes your piece, why should you care? You did your thing well, you made a great personal contribution to this tribute, and it's all that should matter to you.

Also, you should know, the Toonzone Drawing Board is by far one of the nicest drawing boards on the web. Believe me, a couple of years back, some people on other boards were a lot less easy on me than the people here, A LOT less... but that's something I was longing for, feedback, really bad or really good, as long as I could improve.
When I draw something it doesn't matter to me if I like it; what matters in the end is if other people like it. I was trying to get a good reaction from them. My hope was to stand out; being forgotten is the opposite. That's not what I had in mind when I drew these things.

I guess everybody else on Earth is different from me. I can't enjoy something I create unless I get positive feedback on it. When I get none, that's ALWAYS a bad sign, at least to me. Apparently nobody else feels the same way and thinks I'm being a jerk by demanding THEY not be jerks to ME (because that's how it feels).

That wasn't being egotistical, that was merely pointing out my feelings. It's bizarre that you think THAT was rude when you say you've been elsewhere on the Internet. Apparently you don't know what rude really is.

You're not the first person here to attack me for being myself, and you won't be the last. Apparently my needs are impossible to understand.

[Salvor]

You're not the first person here to attack me for being myself, and you won't be the last. Apparently my needs are impossible to understand.
No one is attacking anyone, I am truly sorry you would think that. I was just giving you an honest response and advising you to keep it cool in a thread that's supposed to be thankful, and certainly not hostile.

That being said, let's get back on topic everyone. If you feel like commenting only on a few pics, it's FINE. If you have the kindness and time to discuss every single pic, then it's even better.

I, for one, have always disagreed with James about the point of the Drawing Board, and prefer to comment only on the pics that really appealed to me the most. I am way too sincere by nature, it's both a quality and a curse :sweat: But anyway that's for another thread.

Back on discussing the pics folks!

[James]

I, for one, have always disagreed with James about the point of the Drawing Board, and prefer to comment only on the pics that really appealed to me the most. I am way too sincere by nature, it's both a quality and a curse :sweat: But anyway that's for another thread.


Different strokes for different fokes. Well you are French, I'm English, as soon as we agree, we wipe a thousand years of bickering down the drain and NO ONE wants that. ;)

Yes, it's a difference of perspective. Salvor is right about the nature of Drawing Boards across the net, they are generally FAR harsher than they are here. A little more like how Silverknight and co run the TZ Storyboard. Far more honest, blunt and often more constructive.

For me, I think if you want really serious advice on how to draw, go to school (or alternatively post in our wonderfully critical Drawing Board Workshops!). On the whole, my general feeling that 80% of people who post on these boards are, like MartianInvader, more interest in showing off their work than actually be constructive. I personally think that's a mistake many Drawing Boards make; they enjoy deconstructing people's work and like to use that superiority to really launch into pulling apart people's work.

If people ASK for that sort of deconstruction, they should go to the Workshops and post there, so we know that's what they want.

For me, drawing skill comes with nuturing and self belief as much as it does from technical advice. Hell, some people just love drawing, and that's why this place is kept so... liberal. :)

But I have no problem of people like Sal picking and choosing what they comment on. I don't mean to imply people HAVE to be fair. Far from it, and this is where I disagree with MartianInvader.

MI, You may think people aren't understanding YOUR feelings, but I don't think you are considering others. By being so... blunt and slightly aggressive, you ruin the vibe. Suddenly people become a little more apprehensive about what they post. You could have just said "What do people think of mine?", but your comment was very melodramtic and as you can see, made some people uncomfortable to the point they've confronted the problem.

Everyone has emotions here. We all need to keep them in line to some degree. It's common courtesy and what seperates us from our childhood when we would curse and scream to get what we want.

So yes, we'll move along, but my point is the Drawing Board here is very different to pretty much all the others I've seen. It's for fun and we're all pretty laid back. We hope all who come here are the same without feeling it's a hassle. If you want to comment on all the pictures to be fair, do so. If you want to comment on one, do so. NO ONE is forced to comment on all the pictures or any in particular and we won't tolerate any "demands" to do so from here on, no matter how upset it makes you. If you don't like it, try another Drawing Board and prepare for, as Sal said, the grilling you're likely to get there! :)

[James]

ANYHOW. Away from deep topics like topic postings, comments and board ideology, Stu's image has been added to the Drawing Board Gallery (not sure if Bird Boy has added it to the WF gallery).

You can find it with all the other pictures at http://drawingboard.toonzone.net - check under 2006, February! It's easssssy!

[DisneyBoy]

Great stuff...love the Superman in the darkened Watchtower...think it's really cool that someone picked up on the anime-girl vibe that Annie and Ace give off...Talia to an extent too...the JLU Beyond image is fun...and Starfire's thank you to the entire team of people who brought us all these episodes is very much appreciated and merited.

GO TEAM GO!!!

[Wade Kruse]

That one of Batman and Wonder Woman is stunning.

[Karkull]

Let's see. The theme seems to be things that we'll never see in the DCAU -- or at least won't see enough of -- and is therefore sufficient to make me cry. But at any rate, from top down, we seem to have: the Cassie Cain Batgirl, the cast of The Zeta Project, Warhawk, adult Terry McGinnis Batman, Hades (?), Wonder Woman facing off against her greatest foes (Circe, Silver Swan, Dr. Cyber, and Cheetah), Harley Quinn pregnant with one of the Dee Dees' parents, AMAZO as the Spectre, Dr. Psycho, Bane, Talia, Ra's al Ghul, Power Girl, Batman and Catwoman making kissy faces at each other, the Red Hood, Captain Marvel and Superman making nice-nice, Young Justice, Roxy Rocket, and Nightwing.And I thought I was the only one getting misty-eyed.

Let me take a stab at this, if anything to add to what might be missing. The character you identified as Hades is actually Ares, and the whole Wonder Woman set-up is alludes to the artist's desire for a Wonder Woman animated series. I think the Batman in the Batman Beyond suit is Bruce Wayne, representing the transition from "JLU" Bats to "opening of 'Rebirth'" Bats. Power Girl signifies a longing by the artist for Galatea to take after her comic book counterpart, and Captain Marvel and Superman together signifies them burying the hatchet after "Clash." Ra's Al Ghul, Talia, and Bane probably allude to the "Near Apocalypse of '09" that we'll probably never see (Bane's teamed up with Ra's in the comics before). The Red Hood lifting up his mask refers to how we'll probably never learn who the Red Hood was in Dan Slott's Batman Adventures comic. I suppose the other stuff speaks for itself.

Not to dump on the other highly imaginative submissions, but this one spoke to me. The neat thing about this one is that, when you think about it, if we were in the place of the dreamer here (enraptured by the imaginary Black Mercy), we'd all have different drawings of what we would have imagined. Mine would probably have included a Bizarro/Galatea team-up, Tala as a demon, Swamp Thing, Sandman, and John Constantine (from Vertigo); Magog and Manchester Black versus Superman, Nocturna biting Batman, Wonder Woman in full Zamaronian armor (Diana being chosen to replace Star Sapphire), the Crime Syndicate, Cat Man (the cool one from Gail Simone's Villains Unlimited), and the Creeper falling head over heels for Mad Harriet (from the Female Furies). Oh, and old Nightwing, old Starfire, and Batman Beyond Bruce Wayne reconciling...and meeting Dick's daughter Nightstar.

The above description were imaginary stories, but aren't they all?

;)

[Marc]

Lots of creative entries! Nice work from everyone involved.

I don't like to single anyone out, but Silver Knight, yours is really my favorite. There's great contrast between the two figures, and the bright glow effect really makes it pop.

And YarHarHar, that's hilarious. It's Luthor's hair and facial expression that sells the piece. Makes me laugh every time.


captain infinity, wouldn't we all like to see that? my money's on kyle. and your second picture, the one that looks like an Infinite Crisis cover, wow.Thanks. That's a compliment, right? I don't read comics anymore and I haven't followed this new Crisis thing, so I don't know what's going on with these characters nowadays. But to be honest, all three of my entries actually are "covers" for a webcomic I've got planned once I complete my current Marvel Knights comic. My first entry is entitled "Changing of the Guard", the second is "The Great Despair", and the third is "My Uncle, My Hero". The webcomic would be called "Justice League: The Untold Adventures", and it sort of bridges the gap from where Superman: TAS ended and JL began. I offer my own explanation as to the whole Kyle Rayner/John Stewart situation, I introduce (and then kill off) Barry Allen, establishing a little bit of the Flash legacy, and I have Superman facing the fallout from the events of "Legacy". All of this leads into "The Great Despair", the title of which being a homage to "The Great Darkness Saga", the Legion/Darkseid comic book epic from the 1980s. But in reality, the story is essentially a combination of Kingdom Come, JLA: Tower of Babel, and Daredevil: Born Again. Mostly it's Born Again, with Superman in the Daredevil role and Darkseid in the Kingpin role. It's my own personal "end of the JLA/DCAU" story, and while it contradicts both JLU and Batman Beyond (two shows I have no love for), it's only stupid fan-fiction so who cares?

I'd really love to start the comic sooner rather than later, but I just don't have the time to script and draw and color two 12+ page comics at the same time. What I'd need is a talented artist willing to work for free. *coughcoughJamescoughcoughSilverKnightcoughcoughcoughBiccoughcough*

Ugh, sorry. I really need to get this cough looked at. ;)

- Marc

[GCFyouthcamper]

Thanks. That's a compliment, right? I don't read comics anymore and I haven't followed this new Crisis thing, so I don't know what's going on with these characters nowadays. But to be honest, all three of my entries actually are "covers" for a webcomic I've got planned once I complete my current Marvel Knights comic. My first entry is entitled "Changing of the Guard", the second is "The Great Despair", and the third is "My Uncle, My Hero". The webcomic would be called "Justice League: The Untold Adventures", and it sort of bridges the gap from where Superman: TAS ended and JL began. I offer my own explanation as to the whole Kyle Rayner/John Stewart situation, I introduce (and then kill off) Barry Allen, establishing a little bit of the Flash legacy, and I have Superman facing the fallout from the events of "Legacy". All of this leads into "The Great Despair", the title of which being a homage to "The Great Darkness Saga", the Legion/Darkseid comic book epic from the 1980s. But in reality, the story is essentially a combination of Kingdom Come, JLA: Tower of Babel, and Daredevil: Born Again. Mostly it's Born Again, with Superman in the Daredevil role and Darkseid in the Kingpin role. It's my own personal "end of the JLA/DCAU" story, and while it contradicts both JLU and Batman Beyond (two shows I have no love for), it's only stupid fan-fiction so who cares?
Yes it's a compliment. Wait, you didn't base that Superman picture off the Infinite Crisis #1 Jim Lee cover? You're not kidding? The resemblance is not identical but noticably similar. I'd like to read your fanfics! You gonna post them in the other board?

[Marc]

Yes it's a compliment. Wait, you didn't base that Superman picture off the Infinite Crisis #1 Jim Lee cover? You're not kidding? The resemblance is not identical but noticably similar. I'd like to read your fanfics! You gonna post them in the other board?Honestly, I know nothing about Infinite Crisis and I haven't seen a single cover for it. I swear to Superman. ;)

As for my stories, I'd prefer to do them as webcomics rather than straight fan fiction. I actually pencilled and inked the first three pages of the Green Lantern story for this contest, but I knew I'd never be able to finish coloring and lettering them before the deadline. I'm working on this Marvel fancomic right now ([Cheap Plug]Marvel Knights Adventures (http://www.marc-thibodeau.com/MKA_MAIN.htm)[/Cheap Plug]), and probably won't be finished with it for a few years, and I really can't do the writing and art for two comics at once. Which is why I'd love to find an artist to collaborate with...

- Marc

[bobspoland]

The best one was yarharhar :anime:

[Phantasm]

wow...these drawings are beautiful and so lovingly done.

Awesome work everyone!:)

[Frozen]

There are some lovely pieces of work there. I am, in fact, now sorry I didn't throw my hat in the ring... :(

[James]

There are some lovely pieces of work there. I am, in fact, now sorry I didn't throw my hat in the ring... :(

Still time...!

[TMW]

I know there's been some talk about comments and stuff, but you know, we do drawings for websites just because we like to draw... I do my 'real' work for publication, and the drawing board has the right idea... post things without criticism if you want, or post things for criticism in the appropriate forum. All of these drawings have merit, but sometimes we lose touch with why we did the drawing in the first place... if you draw just to get praise, you're never going to get anywhere... draw because you can't do anything else, draw because if you don't, your life is incomplete. Why care what others think?

Love to draw, but don't love your drawings... that's the key. As soon as you finish a piece, think about what you've learned and how much better your next drawing is going to be. I hate every page I draw because I know that just the process of drawing it has made me better and I can draw better than the last page I've done.

Again, all these drawings are effective, and I liked them all, and I do understand the need for compliments... but, what good is a compliment apart from stroking your ego? You'll learn much more from criticism (and we are all still learning, beginner or pro), even very picky things... and sometimes silence is also a good criticism... not necessarily that your work is bad, but it just didn't grab the viewer. I'm sure for those who didn't get much attention, if you post your work in the right section and expect criticism, you'll get it :-)

[James]

I know there's been some talk about comments and stuff, but you know, we do drawings for websites just because we like to draw... I do my 'real' work for publication, and the drawing board has the right idea... post things without criticism if you want, or post things for criticism in the appropriate forum. All of these drawings have merit, but sometimes we lose touch with why we did the drawing in the first place... if you draw just to get praise, you're never going to get anywhere... draw because you can't do anything else, draw because if you don't, your life is incomplete. Why care what others think?

Love to draw, but don't love your drawings... that's the key. As soon as you finish a piece, think about what you've learned and how much better your next drawing is going to be. I hate every page I draw because I know that just the process of drawing it has made me better and I can draw better than the last page I've done.


Beautifully put. Welcome!



Again, all these drawings are effective, and I liked them all, and I do understand the need for compliments... but, what good is a compliment apart from stroking your ego? You'll learn much more from criticism (and we are all still learning, beginner or pro), even very picky things... and sometimes silence is also a good criticism... not necessarily that your work is bad, but it just didn't grab the viewer. I'm sure for those who didn't get much attention, if you post your work in the right section and expect criticism, you'll get it :-)

Personally, I believe art is to some degree, ego. More so when we are doing it for fun. It's an extension of our own ability to imagine and create. It's a personal extension so it's therefore ego. People will get better at drawing if they draw and ergo, the better they feel about drawing, the more they draw.

I think criticism is a good way to learn, but not the only way. There is certain self learning curve which I think is greatly misrepresented. I think when we give criticism (we is sometimes useful and certainly more interesting that plain ego stroking) it should be positive criticism. That may sound like a hippish oxymoron, but you can criticise by example. I think that's fair and good. Explain what you don't think works, but explain a positive route to correct it. That way you aren't pulling it apart, as offering ways to make it better. I think this is the BIGGEST mistake Drawing Boards on the net make; they allow people to actually use their own ego to simply deconstruct work. It's particularly irritating when it's simply work people have done, as you say, for fun.

Fun is the key. If you want to be critical, be positive in your comments and as an artist, if you post art and do want the harder more decostructive approach, where people look beyond what they like, but what they don't, post in the Drawing Board Workshops where we'll actually look beyond what's cool, but what isn't so cool. ;)

That's my philosophy anyhow. It was the sort of encouragement that helped me become an illustrator and it came from the positive ambience this board had when Frozen was full time head. It's an ideology I've been very keen to continue.

[Dusty]

Beautiful Work Everyone! BTW, is there still time for me to contribute to this?



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[Outlander00]

I think, at this point and seeing the overwhelming popularity of the community... I think we can add on to the gallery whenever pics come along as a permanent fixture. :)

[Dusty]

Thanks Outlander00, :) i think i did this back in 2002, so it isn't the best looking, but anyways here is my tribute to the DCAU!!!: http://img161.imageshack.us/img161/1955/jlsuperman8ck.png


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[Peter Paltridge]

I think it looks great. It looks like it was made with MS Paint, or something equally primitive, which is quite a feat.

[James]

Thats a really iconographical image! Nice set of colours for the background. Glad to see we're STILL getting pictures!

[Dusty]

Thanks guys, althought to me, it isn't the best pic i have done,



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[DisneyBoy]

Lex with a full head of hair running through a field with Brainiac?


BWAHAHAHAHAHAH! :p :D :anime: :D

PRICELESS!