Name the most powerful anime/manga entities

[Jacoiros]

What are the most powerful people/things/beings/groups in all of anime/manga?

Powerful as in pure destructive power and reality warping.

[GWOtaku]

Without a doubt, the Ideon (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ideon) qualifies. Relevant citation from Wikipedia:



The Ideon is portrayed as perhaps the most powerful giant robot in all anime, and possibly one of the most destructive devices in all media in terms of raw destructive power. Although it is at first, a rather humble weapon in comparison to other mecha, brandishing only an array of missiles and cannons as well as limited melee this changes gradually as the series progresses and the protagonists delve further into the Ideons' secrets. The great mech's overall performance increases to incredible heights of speed, durability, and power; even its most basic weapons increase their potency dramatically such as the cinematic "All Missles" attack where all of the Ideon's now Ide powered missiles are launched all at once at great speeds destroying literally fleets of ships in one attack. Without a doubt, Ideon's destructive power reaches godlike status when three distinct weapons are discovered.
Black Hole Cannon, which as the name implies, creates a miniature black hole (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Black_hole) capable of massive destruction. So much so that the cannon devastates half the surface of an entire planet upon its initial use. While devastating, this is only the tip of the iceburg as this is Ideon's least powerful super weapon.
Discovered next is the Ideon's powerful Ideon Sword, a palm emitted beam of pure light which may be used as a sword. While the beam's destructive power is immense, its most cinematic quality is its length. While adjustable, the maximum length of the sword is depicted as being quite possibly infinite (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Infinite)!
However, none of the Ideon's weapons can compare to the awsome destructive power of the infamous Ideon Gun, infamous due to the distinction of being quite possibly one of the most devastating attacks in anime history. A massive blue cannon constructed during the Solo Ship's brief stay on a moon base based off of plans uncovered on the ship. The cannon is directly powered by the Ideon's Ide energy to produce an enormous white wave of energy which destroys literally anything in its path not limited to fleets, planets, and perhaps even galaxies. This cannon's initial use is so cinematically awsome, that it is treated as almost a bittersweet moment as the crew of both the Ideon and the Solo Ship truly begin to realize the freightening power they've uncovered.A total contrast to its humble first foray, the Ideon's capability is nothing short of awe inspiring as well as a little scary. At one point in the series, for instance, the Ideon uses Ideon Sword to cut an entire planet (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Planet) in half when the Ideon's pilot Cosmo is so enraged by the inhabitant's violent execution of a beloved crew member that he retaliates with lethal force. This level of destructive power is akin to only a few other giant robots in anime, such as that of the Gunbuster (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gunbuster) series, although it can be argued when considering that the Ideon is able to battle nearly an entire planet's military force, not to mention Ideon's apocalyptic ending that its title of "Most powerful Giant Robot" is unchallenged.
The Ideon itself also boasts the distinction of being one of the largest mecha in anime history, standing at a whopping 105.0 meters (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Meters) tall. In terms of sheer size, its third only to Gunbuster standing at 200.0 meters tall (the largest Robot yet portrayed in any fiction), and Daitarn 3 (of the anime of the same name, Daitarn 3 (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Daitarn_3).)standing at 120.0 meters. The largest protagonist robot in general is the SDF-1 Macross, which in robot mode stands at 1200.0 meters although if it should be counted as a ship or an actual mecha is a subject of debate.

[Gatomon41]

In the Anime/Manga canon?

Hmmm, Well, there arer a large variety of deties that are powerful, though do not know of any that are omnipotnent, just really powerful.

Lain is also preety pwerful as well.

Evas, for all their impracticalites as Superweapons, are showing to be quite Powerful.

Blackwargreymon did warp reality and was quite powerful, though not as powerful as those already listed.

[KuwabaraTheMan]

If we count video games that take place in the continuity of their respective anime, then
XeedMilleniumon, by far. He could remove people from the space time continuum.

[King Cocopuff]

If we count video games that take place in the continuity of their respective anime, then
XeedMilleniumon, by far. He could remove people from the space time continuum.

I heard that if you injure him in the game, he could turn back time (Insert Twilight Zone sound here) and fix himself. Heck, not only is he a threat to all Digimon realities, he's a danger to any other Anime, TV Show, Game, or Novel reality in the entire multiverse. It'd be frustrating to the Konoha Ninjas and/or the Once Piece crew, if everytime they laid a major hit on him, he'd just go back in time when he wasn't injured.

[LordTerminal]

The only thing I can think of right now is Enel from One Piece and his giant, island-destroying ball of lightning. Although we never actually see it do any damage because Luffy drains it into nothingness in short time.

I guess virtually every major DBZ villain in existance can be labeled in this category to some degree.


It'd be frustrating to the Konoha Ninjas and/or the Once Piece crew, if everytime they laid a major hit on him, he'd just go back in time when he wasn't injured.

:: pictures Luffy fighting XeedMilleniumon ::

[Gatomon41]

I heard that if you injure him in the game, he could turn back time (Insert Twilight Zone sound here) and fix himself. Heck, not only is he a threat to all Digimon realities, he's a danger to any other Anime, TV Show, Game, or Novel reality in the entire multiverse. It'd be frustrating to the Konoha Ninjas and/or the Once Piece crew, if everytime they laid a major hit on him, he'd just go back in time when he wasn't injured.

Wow, XeedMilleniumon sounds like the Kremlin Time Ship or a Chrono Legionare.

[King Cocopuff]

Though XeedMilleniumon could be defeated by the Bobobo-bo Bo-bobo gang, as their insanity exempts them from all Laws of Phyics and their wackiness shall be passed to him should he enter their universe.

[Tash]

What about Akira Toriyama in Dr. Slump? He can change anything at will.

[Go-chin]

Guu
Lord of Nightmares
Ideon
Genesic GaoGaiGar w/ Goldion Crusher

[Paul_Cousins]

Powerful as in pure destructive power and reality warping.Well I guess the Galactic Leyline from the Outlaw Star series would fit that discription it is was used in a destructive manner.

The other reality in the Scryed series could give a person godlike powers.

Then there is the Ultimate Deathsaurer from Zoids Chaotic Century/Guardian Force.

Then there is the Devil/Dark Gundam's final colony form in G Gundam.

And if you count Transformers as an anime series than Unicron would be the heavy weight in any of these discussions. A powerful, Machine-God with reality warping abilities, the size of a planet with an appetiate to match. :zim:

Then there is the TF (good-guy) planet sized Machine-God Primus in the latest TF series. And there is the Autobot Matrix of Leadership.

[Anyone00]

What about Akira Toriyama in Dr. Slump? He can change anything at will.

Don't forget about that little black cat in Trigun... and well ever manga-ka avatar that appears in the world their author created.

[Glensather]

To not spoil anything for the kids watching a certain anime:

Rei III/Lilith + Unit-01

[Wilco911]

Don't forget The Great Will of the Macrocosm (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v255/McKlown/greatwill.jpg) from Excel Saga.

[Sage Shinigami]

Uhm.

Saiyan Level 4 (Or Super Saiyan 4) Gogeta
Super Vegito
Lord of Nightmares
Super Buu

I'd mention the guys from Scryed but they don't come near the aforemtioned...though they'd get back up until they did....:D

That said....

Ideon is probably top of the top. After all, it did destroy all of creation.

[Conan-san]

Gensic GaoGaiGar.
Just about the only giant robot to come close to the ideon in tearms of pure power.
Without the nasty "end of the world" aftertaste.

[anime_guru]

reality warping...
bo^7...I don't think any gundam, eva, or anything can survive after a round of bo^7 theatre for the sheer fact that the pilots will be mind screwed...
that's my VOTE

[JMorgan]

Well, obviously DBZ heroes and villains are a big part of this--Vegeta, at 16,000 "powerlevel" supposedly had the ability to destroy planets (and did so to that one insect planet, but I think that was filler) while his 4,000 powerlevel partner, Nappa, could destroy an entire city simply by jutting his forefinger and middlefinger in an upward motion. And of course, later in the series enemies start reaching hundreds of thousands, millions, tens of millions, etc. in powerlevel and the final "canon" enemy of the Dragonball universe, Kid Buu, could destroy an entire planet, blow up with it, reform, and move to the next one in just a few moments' time. I guess of all Dragonball-universe characters, Kid Buu would be the closest thing to "massive and raw destruction"--he was the essence of evil and destruction anyway.

But many other series, such as Yu-Yu Hakusho for example, present villains that, not as directly and immensely powerful as DBZ's, are able to make you feel their potency and superiority in power over anything human much, much more deeply and realistically than DBZ ever did. DBZ had guys that just talked a lot and flexed a lot and showed off some moves and blew up a planet. YYH had guys that really just freaked you out with how well-explained and well-detailed their strengths were, where they got them, and what all exactly they can do with them. No one was destroying planets (though Sensui and his group were able to open a gate that would have more or less ended Earth for humans at least) but many of the enemies, most notably toward the end of the series, were so frighteningly convincing with their power that I daresay they were more potent, in one way or another, than anything from an anime like DBZ.

And let's not forget "Big Venus" from The Big O... that "ultimate megadeus" that wiped out reality in and of itself just by walking past it, although the reality of this anime's universe was supposedly fragile and man-made and the Big Venus' very purpose may have been to simply reset it (which means it might not necessarily be immensely powerful, but it seemed much so)

[Tash]

Don't forget about that little black cat in Trigun... and well ever manga-ka avatar that appears in the world their author created.
Wait, the author of Trigun appeared in Trigun and started messing with reality? I'm not familiar with the series, but I thought that it was more down-to-earth than that.

[Anyone00]

Wait, the author of Trigun appeared in Trigun and started messing with reality? I'm not familiar with the series, but I thought that it was more down-to-earth than that.

A)They are the Avatars of the Universes' creators.
B)Any plot or character progress can be consider an alteration of reality.
C)If they're really good at screwing with reality how do you know they're doing it?

[Conekiller]

Guu is all powerful

to paraphrase the last time we had one of these threads "Guu eats Ideon"

[Funkmasta Zeph]

God Ener from One Piece poses a strange situation here. No doubt he can't possibly destroy as much as these guys.
But unless you get a big rubber bat the he's literally invincible to everything.

[Gatomon41]

Today, the same exact thread appeared at another board I was at. Apprently, this same thread has also happened on several other boards.

Logically, this means this topic is...

A GHOST! :eek:

[Go-chin]

Anyone who can't destroy a universe or warp reality -> Out of the thread.

Lain, Lord of Nightmares, Guu, and possibly Dark Schneider win this contest. It's a 4 way tie between them.
All have the power to delete any existance from the world, and all also have the power to prevent their existance from being deleted.
Stalemate.

[Lord Mawdryn]

Hmm...I always thought the most powerful force in all anime/manga were big boobs. Men seem to be competely powerless against them and vulnerable to any attack...
:sweat:

[Chaos Lord]

Hmm, most powerful huh? Well I will agree that Ideon sounds powerful here are some other ones. From greatest to least powerful

- Kami-sama from Ah! My Goddess
- Lord of Nightmares/Lina Inverse from Slayers (one is that universe made manifest the other is basically her avatar)
- Zinv from Dual Parralle Trouble Adventure (can make black holes, has Light Hawk Wings, can self repair damage, merged 2 universes, and survived its own self destruct and is 25m too boot:) )
- Ifurita from El-Hazard (post encounter with The Eye of God, which in its own right is pretty powerful)
- Tsunami from Tenchi Muyo (10 Light Hawk Wings, need I say more?)
- Sailor Moon and Sailor Saturn
- Mihoshi from Tenchi Muyo OAV (She has to have some power, what will all the crashes and other mishaps she survived :D )
- Alucard from Hellsing
- Chiyo-Chan from Azumang Daioh

Sry about the double post, something happened before I could finish.

[Sage Shinigami]

Guu is all powerful

to paraphrase the last time we had one of these threads "Guu eats Ideon"

That's nice for comedy but I'd rather not get into that nonsense. Same reason why I'm not mentioning the cat from Trigun.



Well, obviously DBZ heroes and villains are a big part of this--Vegeta, at 16,000 "powerlevel" supposedly had the ability to destroy planets (and did so to that one insect planet, but I think that was filler) while his 4,000 powerlevel partner, Nappa, could destroy an entire city simply by jutting his forefinger and middlefinger in an upward motion. And of course, later in the series enemies start reaching hundreds of thousands, millions, tens of millions, etc. in powerlevel and the final "canon" enemy of the Dragonball universe, Kid Buu, could destroy an entire planet, blow up with it, reform, and move to the next one in just a few moments' time. I guess of all Dragonball-universe characters, Kid Buu would be the closest thing to "massive and raw destruction"--he was the essence of evil and destruction anyway.


Buu saga Z characters were godlike. SSJ3Goku's power could be felt in the afterlife. SSJ3Gotenks and Majin Buu were both powerful enough to temporarily break the barrier between the ROSAT and Earth. And Super Buu nearly destroyed the barrier between life and afterlife.



Anyone who can't destroy a universe or warp reality -> Out of the thread.


The Ideon destroyed creation. And remade it. So....

[Go-chin]

That's nice for comedy but I'd rather not get into that nonsense. Same reason why I'm not mentioning the cat from Trigun.



Buu saga Z characters were godlike. SSJ3Goku's power could be felt in the afterlife. SSJ3Gotenks and Majin Buu were both powerful enough to temporarily break the barrier between the ROSAT and Earth. And Super Buu nearly destroyed the barrier between life and afterlife.



The Ideon destroyed creation. And remade it. So....

Yes, ideon is God-Tier. I never negated that.
And Guu can indeed eat Ideon.

[Gloria Harp]

Most powerful...hmm, that's a tough one.

Well, you can go with the obvious like Vash the Stampede, Sailor Moon, Goku (although I despise him), maybe one of the YYH guys can be on the borderline up there (although, Koenma's father kind of scares me...:sweat: ), and, of course, there's always you-know-who hovering over the earth during the End of Evangelion. However, I'm inclined to disagree, although these all may be formidable powerhouses.

When it comes to the most powerful "entities" in the world of anime/manga, I'd have to go with Lupin III and his fellow comrades. Sure, they might not have any superpowers, but can you honestly fathom Lupin losing to anything, whether it be the all-powerful Goku or the mighty Vash the Stampede? Hell, even if it's the end of the world like in the End of Evangelion, Lupin would somehow survive and come out on top because he's, well, Lupin III. It's like Mamo says in The Secret of Mamo; Lupin has to be either a complete idiot or some sort of god, and, as that was only the first Lupin movie and Lupin's still around, successfully stealing for the last thirty-plus years, the former doesn't seem like much of an option anymore :anime: .

Lupin not only defies, but he transcends all notions of logic and physics - maybe that's been his superpower all along. You can't beat him, no matter how powerful you might be, and, even in the most impossible circumstances, he can't die, he always gets away to steal another day, and he always wins (except those few times when Fujiko does, but she would fall into the "fellow comrades" category...even if she isn't his most loyal comrade...:sweat: ).

I urge you, try to imagine Lupin defeated, beaten, dead (for real, that is, as opposed to the million times he's faked it, lol); it's just too impossible to grasp. Somehow, even against the most powerful of powerful entities, Lupin, along with his fellow comrades, will manage to win out in the end and get what he wants. That's why he's Lupin III, and that's why we love him. And, after all, you have a better chance of beating Sailor Moon or Yusuke Urameshi than you do with trying to defeat, let alone catch, the world's greatest thief, especially when he's already got his heart set on some treasure or heist.

Hey, if you don't believe me, ask poor Inspector Zenigata about it ;).

[Funkmasta Zeph]

Dr. Manhatten of Watchmen could defeat Ideon and maybe even this Guu.

Too bad he's not in manga or Anime though.....

[Sage Shinigami]

Most powerful...hmm, that's a tough one.

Well, you can go with the obvious like Vash the Stampede, Sailor Moon, Goku (although I despise him).

Uhm......

How is VASH coming close to the likes of Goku or the Ideon?

[Roman Legion]

Here's a question... Anyone have a non-suicidal scenario for "defeating" the Lord of Nightmares?

--Romey

[Funkmasta Zeph]

Deconstruct his atomic structure.
Blow up the universe.
Eat him.

Hes fragged man.

[Go-chin]

Uhm......

How is VASH coming close to the likes of Goku or the Ideon?
Vash, manga version, is a being that can generate infinite energy and create a black hole of sorts from his Angel Arm.
That makes him God-Tier, but he doesn't have a mechanism that allows him to destroy existances or negate being destroyed by one who can.


Anyone have a non-suicidal scenario for "defeating" the Lord of Nightmares?
Maybe Ideon since it can recreate creation?
Or does LoD have an apparatus to prevent herself from being destroyed?

[Go-chin]

Deconstruct his atomic structure.
Blow up the universe.
Eat him.

Hes fragged man.

But then there is the problem of needing a Universe to exist within.
Hence, Ideon.

[Roman Legion]

Maybe Ideon since it can recreate creation?
Or does LoD have an apparatus to prevent herself from being destroyed?I'm working from memory, but as I recall, the Lord of Nightmares is literally the Sea of Chaos on which all reality, the multiverse, rests. She creates gods / demons to battle over universes. Basically, she's beyond the very concepts of a universe, a multiverse, or any form of existance. She's the source of nothingness, itself.

I'd assume the Ideon would need to physically exist before it could go about destroying / recreating creation.

--Romey

[Gloria Harp]

Uhm......

How is VASH coming close to the likes of Goku or the Ideon?

Uh...I think you missed the entire point of my post...:sweat:

I was just listing a bunch of characters just for fun so I could make a joke about Lupin III - it wasn't actually serious or an in-depth analysis or anything like that, lol. Honestly, I have absolutely no idea about the power levels of Goku or Ideon except that they're just supposed to be really powerful (and I don't even know who the heck Ideon even is or what anime he's even from, anyway); I was just, well, kidding around and having some fun with it :anime:.

Although, if you think about it, I believe that I did make some valid points about the world's greatest thief...seriously, Lupin III, he can't be beaten even by these god-like anime/manga characters. Like I said, if you watch Mamo, he was compared to being a god, after all... :D

[Beat]

I'm working from memory, but as I recall, the Lord of Nightmares is literally the Sea of Chaos on which all reality, the multiverse, rests. She creates gods / demons to battle over universes. Basically, she's beyond the very concepts of a universe, a multiverse, or any form of existance. She's the source of nothingness, itself.

I'd assume the Ideon would need to physically exist before it could go about destroying / recreating creation.

--Romey

But it does exist in the form of the Id energy, a consciousness with unlimited power. The Ideon is merely a giant robot avatar of that energy.

[Sage Shinigami]

Uh...I think you missed the entire point of my post...:sweat:
I was just, well, kidding around and having some fun with it :anime:.


And that's pretty much why I ignored the rest of your post, right there. ;) Kinda like why I ignored the Guu one. I didn't feel like making a joke of it.



But it does exist in the form of the Id energy, a consciousness with unlimited power. The Ideon is merely a giant robot avatar of that energy.


This is very true.

[Keldran]

I'm sorta suprised nobody's mentioned Akira or Tetsuo, as at the end of the movie I believe it was clearly a new moment of creation, a new big bang, that was being alluded to.

[Tash]

That's nice for comedy but I'd rather not get into that nonsense. Same reason why I'm not mentioning the cat from Trigun.
Can someone explain what this cat does? Is it's actions cannon to the story? (for example, does it ever directly or indirectly effect the plot?) Does it ever appear (and demensrate it's powers) outside of bonus chapters?

[Conekiller]

Can someone explain what this cat does? Is it's actions cannon to the story? (for example, does it ever directly or indirectly effect the plot?) Does it ever appear (and demensrate it's powers) outside of bonus chapters?
It seems to be more of a joke than anything.

Guu, however, CAN do all that stuff, it's not a joke. But I'm thinking of bowing out to this Lord of Nightmares thing. one thing tho..has LoN been defeated and how?

Furthermore, is Ideon a sentient being or is it merely a reality re-creating tool?

[Roman Legion]

one thing tho..has LoN been defeated and how?Not outside of fanfic, anyway... :gir:

The Lord of Nightmares is one of those odd logical positions... If you could somehow destroy everything, you'd have nothing, and since the Lord of Nightmares is the source of nothingness... How do you destroy nothingness? Everythingness? But if the Lord of Nightmares is something that not just creates everything, but is the very foundation of everything... it just doesn't work. What is there to defeat?

Anyway, unlike the other beings mentioned, she's one of those entities that rarely interacts with the world aside from creating it, so she'd probably be more inclined to just sit back and watch everyone else fight for the most powerful title. It's what she does. ;)

--Romey

[Beat]

It seems to be more of a joke than anything.

Guu, however, CAN do all that stuff, it's not a joke. But I'm thinking of bowing out to this Lord of Nightmares thing. one thing tho..has LoN been defeated and how?

Furthermore, is Ideon a sentient being or is it merely a reality re-creating tool?

The Ideon itself is not sentient. The Id energy that powers Ideon however, is. It's the collective sentience of an entire civilization.

[Funkmasta Zeph]

Existence or not, Dr. Manhatten could survive. And yes he can do anything pretty much. Create new life, destroy the universe.

[D.Shaffer]

Not universe destroying, but Gunbuster is among the top hombre in the mecha category. Especially if you include Buster Machine 03

A bit above Gunbuster is *Spoiler Tagged just in case* Nono (Buster Machine 007) from Diebuster. Power on the order of Gunbuster with warp, all miniaturised to fit into a frame the size of a teenager? Works for me.

Washu, goddess or not, is able to create guns able to take out galaxies in one shot.

[Funkmasta Zeph]

Strongest Anime thing may be Ideon.

But strongest fictional character in the world is still The Fonz.

[Gatomon41]

Did anyone mention Kane (why is that such a EVIL name?) from Tenchi in Love? that guy was preety strong, and it took alot just to take him out.

He had time travel, it took both the Jurai and the GP to stop him, and they STILL could not kill him.