Inter-species romances?

[maczero]

Although it's been hinted at in Gargoyles and JL, it's rarely explored onscreen. Would censors or parents groups have a problem with a distinctly non-human character sharing a romantic kiss with a human? I've heard this is why the Goliath/Elisa relationship never went anywhere.

[CyberCubed]

If memory serves didn't Goliath and Elisa kiss in one episode? :confused:

[RogueFanKC]

Although it's been hinted at in Gargoyles and JL, it's rarely explored onscreen. Would censors or parents groups have a problem with a distinctly non-human character sharing a romantic kiss with a human? I've heard this is why the Goliath/Elisa relationship never went anywhere.

Hmmm...I can see why you'd think that. That's a good point.

Personally, I don't think it bothers a lot of people, but I can see how some would view such things as inappropriate because of the "bestiality" issues. And you do have a point that we don't see many instances of this in mainstream TV. But then again, we have Disney's "Beauty and the Beast" (OK, granted, they didn't kiss but they did have a loving relationship), so maybe while the kissing may be taboo, the established evidence that there is emotional and romantic love between two different species isn't as objectionable.

And I agree with CyberCubed; I do believe there WAS an episode when Elisa and Goliath kissed.

[FortressMaximus]

I've always been of the mind that anyone two beings can fall in love, no matter how different. The romantic love can easily be stronger than the physical love, but have both available would make the bond stronger. Romantic love is a powerful force, but if you can't physically show it, eventually it's going pose a speedbump along the way. I'm not saying all relationships HAVE to have a physical connection right away, but it's going to be desired down the road by one or both parties so they need to be aware it's going to happen eventually.

Goliath and Elisa did kiss at the end of Hunter's Moon when she welcomes him home back to the Castle.

For me, great examples of inter species romance are

Leomon/Jeri from Digimon Tamers
Renamon/Henry from Tamers
Goliath/Elisa
(there's a few more, but I can't think of them right now...)

FM

[judyindisguise]

For my part, if the romance is between two different kinds of animal (Miss Piggy and Kermit, for instance), no problemo. When it's between an animal (we're speaking anthro-animal, of course) and a human...ew. I never did like Roger and Jessica Rabbit. Made me squirm a little. As for Goliath and Elisa...well, Goliath has a lot of human features, so somehow that didn't bother me, FWIW.

[Gatomon41]

Although it's been hinted at in Gargoyles and JL, it's rarely explored onscreen. Would censors or parents groups have a problem with a distinctly non-human character sharing a romantic kiss with a human? I've heard this is why the Goliath/Elisa relationship never went anywhere.

You, kidding? SF been working on this probelms long before, and I can tell you, there are alot of issues with Interspeices Relationships that someone is going to find a problem with. It's a really complex issue.

[maczero]

When it's between an animal (we're speaking anthro-animal, of course) and a human...ew. I never did like Roger and Jessica Rabbit. Made me squirm a little. As for Goliath and Elisa...well, Goliath has a lot of human features, so somehow that didn't bother me, FWIW.Goliath and Elisa wouldn't bother me. Roger and Jessica don't bother me either. Heck, I wish I was Roger!;)

Although, I'm a little grossed out by the implied relations between Gorilla Grodd and human females on the Justice League.

[Elven Moon]

There was that Tiny Toons episode where Babs almost married Montana Max.

[Sharklady]

> But then again, we have Disney's "Beauty and the Beast"... <

It could be argued that that doesn't count, because Beast actually was a human being, albeit under an enchantment.

[Gatomon41]

There was that Tiny Toons episode where Babs almost married Montana Max.

That's different from shows like Gargoyles and JL. Tiny Toons is meant for comdic purposes, it's not meant to be taken deeply.

[Neo Yi]

Frankly, I never really had a problem with interspecies relationship in the same way I don't really have a problem with couples in love despite their wide age gap. They love each other and in the end, that's all that matters to them. I have no problem with it.
~Neo

[EinBebop]

Adult Swim just reran the Family Guy episode where Brian went on the dating show recently and shared a passionate human-canine smooch.

[JMorgan]

Honestly, there's no reason it really should bother anyone as long as it's not like gratutitous. If things were meant to be taken that seriously in just about ANY form of animation, things would be a heck of a lot different than they are. In the animated world, anything can have human features, human minds, any kind of human ability--from trees to lawn chairs to motorcycles to, most popularly, animals. Though it'd be weird to see a human and a lawn chair dating, if said chair had a human mind capable of the same depth of an intelligent human, there's nothing to say that any human couldn't form any kind of friendship, romantic relationship, or anything else with it. If the shape of someone's body were that important an issue, that'd be like saying people of certain heights or skin colors or hair colors shouldn't ever be together, or that people with deformities or birth defects should be shunned and never allowed to be loved, because the shell that houses their mind and soul is different from "normal people".

Granted, to my knowledge there is no such thing as a sentient lawn chair in real life, if there was, and it was deep enough to have true emotions and thought, I can guarantee you that someone out there would be attracted to its personality enuogh to fall in love with it. I know it's an extremely unrealistic and strange example, but that's what I'm shooting for--the weirdest possible thing. But if you think about it, is it really that wacky or weird? You might find lawn chairs ugly--I'm sure you also find some people ugly. You might argue that the relationship needs a means of physical romantic interaction--there are people in the world with deformities bad enough to more or less cause the same lack of such things, but what if they were perfectly intelligent and thoughtful and emotional? Would it be right to deprive them from the possibility of ever, ever finding love, even from the most accepting of people?

Seriously, an animated human kissing another, usually extremely humanlike animated being in an animated world shouldn't be considered even mildly strange. The nonhuman characters in such relationships are usually as human as any actual human could be, and other than some fur or long ears or wings or other completely trivial differences in their physical shell, they are every bit as human as an actual human. And furthermore, they usually DO have means of physical romantic interaction (and kissing sometimes does happen in such situations), and much more humanlike a physical state than many other things that could have been given human personafication. I can't think of any examples right now, but I'm sure there are some, of an animated or other fantasy human character falling in love with a personified, otherwise inanimate object or something similar.

And to wrap it all up, this is animation we're talking about. A realm in whichs things regularly happen--things are SUPPOSED to happen--that would be utterly impossible in the real world. If so many comedic or thrilling or saddening things go on in animated worlds that would never happen in real life, why not romantic things? It's just another emotion; maybe the soccermoms are just afraid of it since it is an emotion that is closely tied to what goes on at puberty and the new thoughts that enter peoples' minds at that age that so many parents seem utterly obsessed with keeping from their childrens' knowledge until it physically happens to them. Maybe it's because some people think if a human kissed an anthropomorphic fox or developed a crush for a talking trashcan that their kids would try to emulate that just to be like the cartoon. Like many other "controversial issues" it very well could be due to the fact that people think anyone who's not at the very least 13 or so is an INFINITELY impressionable and incalculably unintelligent tool that will undoubtebly and immediately emulate anything and everything they see in media to the point at which it causes a national uproar. This does happen once every few years by one of the millions of kids around here, but not as often as people always seem to worry about.

People should give kids more credit, I think.

[Gatomon41]

Granted, to my knowledge there is no such thing as a sentient lawn chair in real life, if there was, and it was deep enough to have true emotions and thought, I can guarantee you that someone out there would be attracted to its personality enuogh to fall in love with it.


There might be these days,, considered the advances in AI and putting coumpters everyone. :p

[JMorgan]

There might be these days,, considered the advances in AI and putting coumpters everyone. :p

That actually brings up an extremely interesting point--I was referring to things with truly human minds, not things that humans had created complicated, emotional AI minds for. THAT is an issue that even I would find controversial--once we get to the point at which we have AI minds that are capable of human emotion, or at least emulate it very closely, and who you're able to talk to like any actual human. We all know it'll happen eventually, and then there'll be this huge thing on whether or not humans should love robots. Sigh...

That again though, further proves the point that animated characters of ANY two physical bodies should not be shunned romantic chance. If they both have truly human minds and it's not AI or anything... why not?

(It's funny though, I've always had a huge interest in robots, and love things like Mega Man that personafies robots and gives them extremely humanlike characteristics and emotion.. and in such universes, I wouldn't find it even remotely strange for a mechanical and organic being, a robot and a human, to have a romantic relationship. But of course, that's a fantasyuiverse in which the robots are given truly human minds by actual humans--in real life, actual artificial intelligence would be a completely different issue..)

[maczero]

There might be these days,, considered the advances in AI and putting coumpters everyone. :pWhy wait for AI? I'm sure there are plenty of disturbing inanimate object fetishes already out there.:D

[Gatomon41]

I just don't think Cartoons or any other Visual Media are really the medium to explore this issue. It's too deep, complex, and werid, and requires alot of thought and time.

[Anyone00]

Although, I'm a little grossed out by the implied relations between Gorilla Grodd and human females on the Justice League.

You and ,most likely, just about every ape in Gorilla City.

[Jon Hanson]

Would censors or parents groups have a problem with a distinctly non-human character sharing a romantic kiss with a human?Take this sentence apart from the rest and this becomes a very creepy question.

[Kaoru]

Sonic X - Tails & Cosmo (although Amy is supposed to be Sonic's gf, he had a much stronger relationship with Chris), Looney Tunes, SRMTHFG! - Chiro kinda dates Jinmay who's actually a robot, and I am Weasel! - Weasel dates Lullabelle who's human.

[maczero]

Sonic X - Tails & Cosmo (although Amy is supposed to be Sonic's gf, he had a much stronger relationship with Chris)I'm assuming Chris is a human boy. So are you implying a gay, interspecies romance is happening on a children's show? Goes to look for 4kidsTV internet site to complain to whomever's in charage. (joking :D )

[Kagetsu]

Although, I'm a little grossed out by the implied relations between Gorilla Grodd and human females on the Justice League.
That's the one that really bothered me. With most animation, even the "animalized" characters have human features in the face and body, with animal features, like wings , tails , and even fur(eww) added. You can still see the human form in their shoulders, hips, and ,to an extent, in the face. When it clearly looks like an animal like Grod, it's just plain creepy, whereas Shihera was still attractive even with wings. I was much happier when her beak was reveiled to be part of a helmet and not her true form. :shrug:

[JMorgan]

Sonic X - Tails & Cosmo (although Amy is supposed to be Sonic's gf, he had a much stronger relationship with Chris), Looney Tunes, SRMTHFG! - Chiro kinda dates Jinmay who's actually a robot, and I am Weasel! - Weasel dates Lullabelle who's human.

Well, those are mostly cartoonish and wouldn't ever go into a physical or deep relationship. And Cosmo isn't all that human anyways, and she's even got the "chibhi" physical stature shared by all the animal characters in Sonic X.

And I think he means Amy is closer to Chris than Sonic; I doubt I'd view Sonic and Chris' relationship as romantic by any means :P

[Neo Yi]

I thought he was joking on the Sonic/Chris thing because for the 1st season (1st and 2nd for American viewers), Chris became super clingy to Sonic, is why.

[kashpoing]

i think love can bloom between any two beings although gorilla grodd never really bothered me until you guys brought it up now that you have though, eww.

[tb4000]

I wouldn't care to see Tala and Grodd getting intimate. I just wouldn't.

[GregX]

Although it's been hinted at in Gargoyles and JL, it's rarely explored onscreen. Would censors or parents groups have a problem with a distinctly non-human character sharing a romantic kiss with a human? I've heard this is why the Goliath/Elisa relationship never went anywhere.

That's not why.

Goliath and Elisa's relationship developed very slowly, and it wasn't the execs fault. Greg Weisman wanted to tell that story naturally. No one at Disney had a problem with it.

It was going to go further, but then Greg ended up not doing the third season, and the new producers didn't bother to do anything with it.

[Kaoru]

Well, those are mostly cartoonish and wouldn't ever go into a physical or deep relationship.

I doubt I'd view Sonic and Chris' relationship as romantic by any means :P I never said they had anything like a sexual relationship, which doesn't even exist in cartoons outside of adult swim. I'm just saying that Chris & Sonic are way closer than Sonic and Amy and depth of their relationship is obvious in some episodes.

[Wade Kruse]

Someone on the DC boards pointed out that Grodd gets more chicks than Flash does.

Grodd's a PIMP!

[maczero]

Someone on the DC boards pointed out that Grodd gets more chicks than Flash does.

Grodd's a PIMP!That's what's even more disturbing about Grodd's hook-ups. He's playing the women!

[Nftnat]

Suppose it weren't Grodd we were talking about, suppose it were Ultra-Humanite? He was originally human, and is now in a gorilla body, right? What does that make him? What about Cheetah? (granted, it's been a while since we've seen her)

Remember the Tyger Tyger episode of Batman? Talk about Jungle Fever. For that matter, we can pick out any episode in the DCAU that has Dr. Milo.

Inter-species relationships have a long and proud history, dating back to the Owl and the Pussycat, and to Froggy who went a-courtin' Miss Mousy, uh-huh. Going further back, we see that human relationships with centaurs, fauns, nymphs and satyrs permeate classical mythology, not to mention the gods themselves. The most prominent example from the Golden Age was Pepe Le Pew and Penelope. In Golddiggers of '49, Beans the cat was the boyfriend of Little Kitty, whose father was a pig! (Not Porky, I think) The most prominent such teased relationship with a human was that with Red Hot and either Droopy or the Wolf. The afore-mentioned Kermit & Miss Piggy followed, and the Silver Age gave us a possible Sneezer and Sweetie, a possible Rita & Runt, as well as Parvo & the Groomer, oh, and Pinky & Phar Fignewton. "Pinky, I told you, you are a mouse, this is a horse..." "Now let's not start that again."

From CN comes one of the early Johnny Bravo episodes, My Date With an Antelope. The date didn't do well as her boyfriend, a crab, well, you've probably already seen it. Whatever Happened to Robot Jones? has a robot dating a human, and the possibility of such is also present in My Life As a Teenage Robot. And what will happen in My Gym Partner's a Lab Monkey when relationships come into the mix, and you know they will.

Anime is positively rife with such examples, although in practically all instances the non-human is a demon. InuYasha, Koga, Raizen, any number of kitsunes and other demons. And just where do cabbits come from? That's never really been explored. There's been some R Dorothy teasing as well, kind of reminiscent of the relationships Data got into on Star Trek TNG; which reminds me of Odo's relationships on DS9, which leads to all sorts of other inter-planetary and therefore inter-species relationships, dating back to Sarek and Amanda on the original series. Back then it was considered revolutionary for Kirk to kiss Uhura; not for him to shag any number of hot alien chicks, though. Weird.

Then there's fanfics, and it's a whole new universe. We have Catman, an anthropomorph who can become a man or a panther at will, who's married to a mutated cat. We have, well, any number of Fifi LaFume fanboys hooking her up with all sorts of species, including human. We have the army of Yakko and / or Wakko fangirls and in some cases the resulting offspring - WakkAnne comes to mind. TTA fanfic has a rat adopted by rabbits hooking up with a cat (and their offspring with a rabbit), the rabbit siblings with a fox and a mink, another rabbit with a wolf, and yes, a human with a jaguar (and their offspring with a rabbit too, whose sibling hooks up with Monty & Elmyra's child)! I should mention that this last example was written by someone who's as secure in his religious and other worldview as I am in mine, and we pretty much agree that such would be unthinkable in the real world.

But isn't that the point? None of this is real, if I may - as they say in wrestling - break kayfabe for a moment. We know that the chances of a person actually hooking up with another species are infinitesimal, although they do exist. We know that the idea of hooking up with an android or robot, no matter what advances are made in AI, is also a non-starter, never mind the proud tradition of such in entertainment and literature including the works of Asimov.

We know better than the censors and the parents groups give us - including the children among us - credit for. I think that's been fairly well proven by now. Oh, sure, there's the odd instance of someone with a blanket as a cape trying to fly off a roof, or someone putting a cat in a dryer; but I think we're all agreed that these are very rare exceptions that prove the rule. I had toy guns as a child, but I wasn't warped because of it; I knew that even if I had real guns I couldn't just blast someone and expect them to shake it off, walk away, utter some witty rejoinder, or be back to normal next scene. I knew that to fall off a cliff would be very, very bad for my long-term health, and it would take much longer than a few seconds to recover. And I knew better than to go anywhere near dynamite, no matter how many times I saw someone survive an explosion in a cartoon, because it WAS a cartoon! It wasn't real! I knew it even at a very young age, and I think everyone in this conversation knew it too. I'm reminded of the words of Foghorn Leghorn when speaking about the Big Game: if you drop a piano on Elmer Fudd, it's no big deal; if you drop a piano on Keyshawn Johnson, I've got news for you, my friend: he ain't gettin' up. We. Know. This.

So why are we having this conversation? Because the groups are afraid that one of their kids will go out in the backyard and try to hump the family pet? If it's their kid, it's their responsibility. Don't let the tv be a baby-sitter; sit down with your kids yourself while they watch. Limit their viewing, like my parents did. Talk with them! Don't blame everyone but yourself when your kids mess up!

Why, then, the long legacy of inter-species romance, going back to Krazy Kat being crazy over Ignatz Mouse - who hated her - and in turn being the object of affection of Offisa Pup? Maybe the artistic community has been making a collective statement on tolerance and prejudice. Maybe by viewing how those of different species and planets behave toward each other, we will then be more open-minded toward friendships and other relationships between the various cultures, faiths, races, and yes, even genders. Maybe we can have a laugh or two over what we see on the screen, and then be more accepting of each other.

Let's think about it.

[Prism]

I've never really had a problem with crossbreeding. After all most of the nonhuman races have humanoid shapes and features to begin with. And the concept of crossbreeding is as old as humanity itself. There is a huge difference between true animals and humanoid races and for the most part, the interspecies relationships involve humans/humanoids.

[JMorgan]

I never said they had anything like a sexual relationship, which doesn't even exist in cartoons outside of adult swim. I'm just saying that Chris & Sonic are way closer than Sonic and Amy and depth of their relationship is obvious in some episodes.
"physical" can refer to cuddling, kissing, not sexuality, y'know :p

And Nftnat pretty much tied up all the loose ends to this. Heck, forget fanfics--in the actual show, Fifi chased Furrball the cat, Calamity Coyote, and Hamton the pig. Yakko and Wakko oggled constnatly over a human woman and (moreso in the comics than the show) a mink girl. Dot openly showed attraction to human males at various points. Newt, a daschund, was seduced in the show and several times in the comics by Minerva Mink; a wolf was also seduced by her, and her later by him, and various HUMAN males went ga-ga over her (much in the style the Wolf did over Red Hot Riding Hood) in the Animaniacs comics.

And I just thought of some good examples to my earlier point of inanimate-object love. Countless animated works have shown a canine of some sort falling romantically in love with a fire hydrant. Spunky from Rocko's Modern Life fell in love with a mop. In that same show, Philbert the turtle married a hook-handed cat lady. Heiffer the steed, who lived with a family of wolves, dated an elk. Mrs. Bighead, a frog, contantly tried to seduce Rocko, a wallaby. Etc, etc, etc.

I think we've made our point--it's a cartoon. Stuff like this shouldn't be worried over, and it's honestly an interesting twist usually when it does happen as long as it's in good taste, while teaching kids who have the mental capacity to not take things distinctly literally the values of accepting interracial or intercultural etc. relationships.

[Doop]

Bestiality is wrong because animals lack the intelligence needed to consent, therefore making it animal abuse. :mad: Animals are comparable to children in this sense.

If the non-human species in fiction has human-level intelligence, ala Gargoyles, I don't see what the problem is.

[Hordesman]

Bestiality is wrong because animals lack the intelligence needed to consent, therefore making it animal abuse. :mad: Animals are comparable to children in this sense.

If the non-human species in fiction has human-level intelligence, ala Gargoyles, I don't see what the problem is.

Well, the Gargoyles world is described as being made up of 1 sentient species.From that, you get 3 original races: Gargoyles, Humans and Oberon's Children. Now, this is how it's described on the show, but from what I've gathered from actual science it's a little off-mark. Humans and OC are the only examples of crossbreeding from the show (and I suspect shapeshifting is a factor in its existence), Ask Greg iirc stated that gargoyle/human relationships can't produce children, and the ability for groups to breed is technically what constitutes a race over a species. But in terms of intelligence, they are equals and that's really what matters.

As for Sonic X... The show does come from Japan, right? There's an intensity and shared interests/experience factor you don't see between characters of the opposite sex unless you've got a Lady Oscar or Ranma.

[SonicFan]

Nice topic, nothing wrong with something different for once.

[sterfish]

One inter-species relationship I always remembered was the back and forth between Vinnie and Charley on Biker Mice From Mars. Vinny (a mouse) flirted with and hit on Charley (human female) in just about every episode. Even though the whole thing was portrayed in that sort of "screwball romantic comedy" type way, I remember some lines and actions really surprising me even when I was younger.

[Doop]

Well, the Gargoyles world is described as being made up of 1 sentient species.From that, you get 3 original races: Gargoyles, Humans and Oberon's Children.

How are gargoyles related to humans? They have wings, lay eggs, turn into stone at daytime, and have a longer life span than humans. :confused:

[GregX]

Trust me, they're not related.

[Behonkiss]

Filbert and Dr. Hutchinson from Rocko. And they actually had kids.

[tb4000]

Filbert and Dr. Hutchinson from Rocko. And they actually had kids.

I'd also rather not know the details of how they even overcame the physiological hurdles in that one.

[straw_hat]

I'd also rather not know the details of how they even overcame the physiological hurdles in that one.

What I find more disturbing is that one of them looked like Heffer.

[Waylaid]

Are there still prejudices among higher-ups like execs who would object to such a relationship between two souls who happen to be of different species?

And how can anyone here forget Fone Bone & Thorn? Sure, they're "not animated" but their relationship is exemplary even though they didn't kiss but they're still in love.

[SonicFan]

Filbert and Dr. Hutchinson from Rocko. And they actually had kids.
Yup! mutant kids, don't you all forget Donkey and Dragon in "Shrek" and at the end of "Shrek 2" they had kids.

[spidl]

This discussion reminds me of the Vote or Die episode of South Park.

[Undrave]

Well, those are mostly cartoonish and wouldn't ever go into a physical or deep relationship. And Cosmo isn't all that human anyways, and she's even got the "chibhi" physical stature shared by all the animal characters in Sonic X.

And I think he means Amy is closer to Chris than Sonic; I doubt I'd view Sonic and Chris' relationship as romantic by any means :P

Cosmo is a plant-based organism, her 'mother' was a giant tree, so in a way she's quite different from Tails.

Inter-species romance never seem to stop sci-fi shows like Star-Trek or Babylon 5. Let's not forget the implied AI-Organic romances (Data and Tasha and the Doctor and that Vidian woman or his future wife).

Maybe one day it'll be a real issue for humans, in the far future where we might contact other sentient being or even create a race of sentient robots... you never know.

As for censoring on TV I don't think there's any 'rule' but some producer probably don't feel too comfortable even showcasing a kiss betweem two humans XD

[SonicFan]

There are some furry comics, some anime or fanfiction stories that sometimes have humans either dating or married to furries.

[Hordesman]

Aside from Grodd, aliens and anthros and gargoyles and such are basically human in the first place. Animation tends to just keep it as more of a race/culture/etc. difference if that.

Humans, Gargoyles and Oberon's Children are referred to as "races" in canon, something that scientifically refers to breeding compatibility. The show's canon steers away from this, however.

And the oddest canon inter-relationship has to be the Brother Grunt who took up with a lamp.

[GregX]

Aside from Grodd, aliens and anthros and gargoyles and such are basically human in the first place. Animation tends to just keep it as more of a race/culture/etc. difference if that.

Humans, Gargoyles and Oberon's Children are referred to as "races" in canon, something that scientifically refers to breeding compatibility. The show's canon steers away from this, however.

And the oddest canon inter-relationship has to be the Brother Grunt who took up with a lamp.

It's just a figure of speech. There is no breeding compatibility. Well, among the Children, there is, but they can breed with anything thanks to their shapeshifiting. Gargoyles and humans cannot breed together.

[Hordesman]

It's just a figure of speech. There is no breeding compatibility. Well, among the Children, there is, but they can breed with anything thanks to their shapeshifiting. Gargoyles and humans cannot breed together.

I know that. But in general, non-Gargoyles science... the term "race" refers to a group that can interbreed.

[Wussycat]

In Catscratch, Gordon is in love with Kimberly. What makes this cross-species attraction worse is the fact that Gordon is middle-aged and Kimberly is 8.

[matta2fatta]

in tmnt didnt raphael go out with a squirrel or something like that

[HeeHaw9]

For me, great examples of inter species romance are

Leomon/Jeri from Digimon Tamers
Renamon/Henry from Tamers
Goliath/Elisa
(there's a few more, but I can't think of them right now...)

FMwhat?....how? I can understand the others, but that couple...Anyways, inter species couples I can think of are...

Rin/Sesshomaru (although it's not love. It's more of a father/daughter thing.)

Inuyasha/Kagome (might ot might not count.)

I can see Jeri/Leomon...

BTW, there's nothing wrong with inter species couples. IMO, they are actually more interesting than human/human relationships. :)

[maczero]

Wow! This thread is still alive?

As for the Catscratch thing, a cat couldn't be much older than eight in calendar years. Although, in cat years I'm guessing that would make him middle aged. Yeah , that's creepy.

[Hordesman]

in tmnt didnt raphael go out with a squirrel or something like that

Actually, Mona Lisa was a human mutated into some kind of lizard.

[NikD]

I was wondering when someone was going to bring up Gordon and Human Kimberly. Sketched me out at first too... But I think it's mitigated by the fact that Gordon is a chivlarous character.

I actually gave the girls cred for being with Gorilla Grodd - they weren't being shallow by just looking at his body. They knew it's the person inside that counts - the maniacal, evilly intelligent person. Actually, he became my favorite character in this last season of JLU. Kind of charismatic in a hairy way. Do you think he was concerned about consorting with human females? Maybe his attempt to turn the human race simian was just a way to enlarge his dating pool.

Now if you'll excuse me, I have a hot date with a lawn chair. :)

[Wolf Boy2]

Although it's been hinted at in Gargoyles and JL, it's rarely explored onscreen. Would censors or parents groups have a problem with a distinctly non-human character sharing a romantic kiss with a human? I've heard this is why the Goliath/Elisa relationship never went anywhere.
Hinted at? Green Lantern and Hawkgirl had sex for pity's sake!

This is hinted????
http://www.worldsfinestonline.com/WF/jl/episodes/wildcard/p2/29.jpg

[Antiyonder]

It's just a figure of speech. There is no breeding compatibility. Well, among the Children, there is, but they can breed with anything thanks to their shapeshifiting. Gargoyles and humans cannot breed together.

The New Olympians are a hybrid of races.

Also, Oberon during his time as a mortal had a son who we know asMerlin.

[Anyone00]

Well it's tolerated because animation tends to further something from reality in most people's minds and other species in cartoons are usually like other species in Star Trek; they can be considered to be just another type of person.

Now when the 'Animal Companions Love Movement' or whatever people who want bestiality legitimized decide to brand themselves start getting vocal and start making inroads to acceptance then it will become very controversial. No I'm not joking; I wouldn't be surprised if this happens in my lifetime (provided my life isn't cut short for any reason).

[maczero]

Hinted at? Green Lantern and Hawkgirl had sex for pity's sake!

This is hinted????
http://www.worldsfinestonline.com/WF/jl/episodes/wildcard/p2/29.jpgWell other than the wings, Shayera has a human appearance. Heck, I'd say she has the prettiest face in all of the DCAU. Unless her uh... feminine parts are distinctly non-human, I see nothing strange about their relationship.

BTW, the JL interspecies relationship I was referring to was Grodd & Tala.