Dream Bruce Timm Project

[Stu]

Hey,

With Justice League Unlimited finishing, and Bruce Timm at work on a new, unamed project, one does have to wonder - how do you top Justice League Unlimited? With every hero worth animating featured in the show, the possibilities for solo spin offs are mind boggling. The Question, Green Arrow, The Flash - there's so many solo shows we could be here to discuss them for years.

Perhaps, with new DC shows on the way that aren't in this continuity, Timm could explore other projects. Who wouldn't want to see Timm's take on Spider-Man, The Fantastic Four or Daredevil?

So, if it were up to you, what would you have Timm and co do next?


http://marvel.toonzone.net/Stu/timmspidey.jpg
Image Courtesy of www.popcultureshock.com/timm

[Batman91]

I think it would be awesome if they did a Green Lantern Corps series.Or they could do a spinnoff of B;TAS with Nightwing.

[Bobbywoodhogan]

I hope to god they aren't thinking of Supergirl and the Legion of Superheroes. I'd like a Superboy show myself :D.

[MR.MXYZPTLK]

I would love to see a serious teen titans show. Though all the fans of the current would probaly hate it. Or an avengers cartoon. Do you think a green arrow show with the same style as btas would work? AAH there's too many to name

[DreamTripper]

I think that pic looks better like this:
http://bandicoot.merseine.nu/~helok/timmspidey.jpg

But, as for the next Timm designed series? I think they need to re-relaunch He-Man.
I'll find some good Timm He-Man art to post.

[J-Ranger]

I'd prefer if Timm did not touch Spider-man but a Daredevil cartoon would be tremendous under his belt. The FF option isn't there since there is already a FF show on its way. With b.t. looking over a Man without Fear cartoon, I honestly believe that he can do some really innovative things with the product. Even an Avengers cartoon (classic) could be done well under his belt. However I don't think Marvel would bend over backwards to give b.t. the freedom he had with DC.

[Casey Mack]

I think that pic looks better like this:
http://bandicoot.merseine.nu/~helok/timmspidey.jpg

But, as for the next Timm designed series? I think they need to re-relaunch He-Man.
I'll find some good Timm He-Man art to post.

^ they already succefullly relaunched He-man in 2002, and it aired on CN for a few years. It was really cool, and they had some great characters.

But you guys act if marvel would just let Bruce timm work on spiderman:confused: . Besides they already had a great spiderman series in the 1990s.

[DreamTripper]

^ they already succefullly relaunched He-man in 2002, and it aired on CN for a few years. It was really cool, and they had some great characters.


No, it ran on CN for a season and a half, and Mattel did crap with the toyline...

This is why I said RE-relaunch. With a Timm look, I think the cartoon would be more successful.

But, since I know it won't happen, I'd like to see The Warlord get a series.

[BoyScout]

I think the next project he should take up is

http://i33.photobucket.com/albums/d63/_BoyScout_/393px-Powers.jpg


its perfect...

[EmaHalJordan]

GREEN LANTERN HAL JORDAN ANIMATED SERIES

http://www.actionfigureinsider.com/features/images/JLUHal/JLUHalCardBack.jpg

HEMAN AND THE MASTER OF THE UNIVERSE



EmaHalJordan :)

[Krypton_Knight]

Whatever Bruce feels like doing. Make it his choice. He's earned it.

KK

[PeterFries]

I'd love to see b.t. and his team do a completely original, creator-owned project all their own. As much as I got a charge out of JLU, my dream cartoon series since the Flash guest starred on Superman: The Animated Series, I can also imagine how sick b.t. and the rest must be of working with licensed characters. After seeing how much life they gave to fifth stringer comic book characters like Vixen, John Stewart and Hawkgirl, to the point where they stole two series out from under Batman and Superman, I want to see them create a whole new animated universe all their own, applying what they've learned in the previous years.

[Silly McGooses]

I'd like to see Will Eisner's The Spirit, going back a little bit to the B:TAS art deco visuals while keeping Eisner's over-all style.

[Casey Mack]

I'd love to see b.t. and his team do a completely original, creator-owned project all their own. As much as I got a charge out of JLU, my dream cartoon series since the Flash guest starred on Superman: The Animated Series, I can also imagine how sick b.t. and the rest must be of working with licensed characters. After seeing how much life they gave to fifth stringer comic book characters like Vixen, John Stewart and Hawkgirl, to the point where they stole two series out from under Batman and Superman, I want to see them create a whole new animated universe all their own, applying what they've learned in the previous years.

i think your right, i mean we know Bruce timm can adapt stories and villians, but can he create any. I mean the brilliant "Gargoyles" creator Greg wiseman has Timm beat on the createing whole new worlds, and ideas department.

[DreamTripper]

Here is the Bruce Timm art card from the 10 Best Episode Masters of the Universe DVD from last year.

http://bandicoot.merseine.nu/~helok/timmdvdcard.jpg

[PeterFries]

i think your right, i mean we know Bruce timm can adapt stories and villians, but can he create any. I mean the brilliant "Gargoyles" creator Greg wiseman has Timm beat on the createing whole new worlds, and ideas department.

Well, I didn't say that; I mean, I'm more than confident that b.t. can do whatever he sets his mind on doing creatively. What I was saying is that I'm hoping he has the clout now in the industry to do his own thing if that's what he wants.

Unless you were just double-daring him to prove he can do that... :p

[psifreek28]

While it's true Bruce has never gotten around to doing an "original creator owned series", saying that he has never given a world life is jumping the gun. He and his team created a DC universe largely different from the current one, because of small subtleties the comics dont have.

My Dream Bruce Project would def. be a Batman: TAS spinoff centered around Nightwing. He is undoubtedly the coolest thing ever, and he has a whole batch of rouges waiting to be untapped, and he could also team up quite a bit with Huntress, Canary, Arrow and maybe the Question. Could all pop up at one point throughout the first season. Dont get me wrong i love Team Ups but, they need to be either "Huntress/Canary/Batgirl 2 parter" and then a "question/green arrow" one shot...

I can already see an episode of "Nightwing" titled "The Birds of Prey"...where Nightwing teams with Huntress,Canary and Batgirl to take down some villain they are all chasing...It would be especially good, if some of the Hatred for heroes is still somewhat visible in the police department of Bludhaven.

Tell me we all wouldnt do some huge LOL moment with Barbara being all know it all, and Huntress throwing in "And who made you an Oracle?"...

::sigh::

::sigh::

::double sigh::

[Simpler Simon]

It'd be awesome if B.T. produced the first animated, primetime adult series that would air alongside stuff like CSI. I don't think even he has enough clout to get something like that greenlit, but this is the *dream* project thread isnt it?

[melibell21]

that would be cool if they did a "gotham central" cartoon. that was a great comic. could be a cool cops kinda show with our fav characters guest appearing.

and i always say they should do an adult swim outsiders cartoon. return it to its former glory (cuz the comic is sucking right now). but a cartoon with good writers (do not let judd winnick anywhere near it) could be awesome. i mean think about it. we get nightwing and arsenal. and they can always do a few batman and the outsiders eps with all of the old outsiders.

psifreak28, i love your idea. and especially the oracle comment. hehe

[cameronpoe1986]

I really don't think the likes of Green Arrow or Nightwing or The Question are really strong enough to warrant a cartoon devoted solely to them. Not saying it can't be done or that I don't like the characters, it's just that Batman and Superman are more adaptable super-heroes; they can fit into a lot of situations. Nightwing would feel like a retread of B:TAS, and there's only so much you can do with guys like Green Lantern or The Flash.

I like the idea of a GCPD or Powers series, though. Those would be fresh takes on superhero shows, which are always in danger of becoming tired and stale. But what I'd really like to see would be a Tarzan or Doc Savage.......I think Timm could do some cool stuff with them......

[Anarky]

bruce timm...Vertigo...adult swim...nuff said

[psifreek28]

I really don't think the likes of Green Arrow or Nightwing or The Question are really strong enough to warrant a cartoon devoted solely to them. Not saying it can't be done or that I don't like the characters, it's just that Batman and Superman are more adaptable super-heroes; they can fit into a lot of situations. Nightwing would feel like a retread of B:TAS, and there's only so much you can do with guys like Green Lantern or The Flash.

I like the idea of a GCPD or Powers series, though. Those would be fresh takes on superhero shows, which are always in danger of becoming tired and stale. But what I'd really like to see would be a Tarzan or Doc Savage.......I think Timm could do some cool stuff with them......

I disagree, i think it's very easy to give a character like Nightwing a series...He was barely exposed in TNBA, so while we know his past...we dont know him majorly as to how he has changed since his travels. Plus if you throw in some of the "living in the shadow of the bat" issue...it would provide some interesting plotlines for whenver he receives help from the batteam or has to deal with issue's revolving the publics idea of batman and his connection to Nightwing. Nightwing has his own comic,over 5 dozens of issues...stories that go to many different locales,ideas etc.

Throw in some guest appearences,maybe even throw in the comic plot of having Dick Grayson join the Bludhaven Police Dept. and potentially have a fling with a female officer.

It's not hard to see that Nightwing, could easily fill 13 episodes (since thats the norm for animated series nowadays)

Also saying that characters like Nightwing,flash,GL, etc dont have the "name" to warrant a show...is like saying that "the zeta project" and "static shock" were NAME properties enough to be as big as they were.

[Sage Shinigami]

bruce timm...Vertigo...adult swim...nuff said

Hardcore SUCK. :p I'm sorry dude, but Vertigo series need to be done by the person that made it, not anyone else. Even Timm.

Anyways....Supergirl and the Legion of Superheroes, so they can have a cartoon with the same name as the comic. :D There's no way they can really ape the stories been done in the comic anyways; too dark. I hear rumors of a Brave and the Bold cartoon. That would be excellent. Team-ups between random heroes and whatnot. The awesomeness would be too much.

Also...

Green Lantern Corps
Adventures in the DC Universe (that book rocked)
Nightwing
Flash
A KYLE RAYNER inspired GL series (no Hal Jordan--he should be dead right now)
Martian Manhunter





Oh, and another that would not fit into the DCAU....JSA. :D Alan, Jay, the original Atom, Starman, Mr. Terrific, Johnny Thunderbolt....would make such an awesome series.

[Devils_Advocate]

I would love Fables to see animation and preferrably have it air on HBO or Showtime so he would not be restricted in the content. I think Bruce Timm could do a great job with this.

D_A

[SuperChicken]

I would love Fables to see animation and preferrably have it air on HBO or Showtime so he would not be restricted in the content. I think Bruce Timm could do a great job with this.

D_A

Devil's Advocate you have been reading my mind.

Fables or no, BT would be great on a slightly more mature series and HBO, Showtime or even FX would be the place to do it.

Dare I say:
Dark Knight Returns
Watchmen
Kingdom Come

Any of which, to be done really right, should be a series.

:)

But like someone said - anything he does would be cool - he's deserved the latitude.

[Temple Fugate]

I'd like to see Will Eisner's The Spirit, going back a little bit to the B:TAS art deco visuals while keeping Eisner's over-all style.A Spirit animated movie is already in pre-production.

Who said b.t. has to make his next series based off a comic book? Maybe it'll be something original. Not to say that almost any property he could choose from comics would likely be gold. Even Archie. :sweat: But that Powers suggestion seems like the best idea.

OTP EDIT: \/ \/ Years ago Brad Bird started drawing up storyboards for a Spirit movie, but the project was canned shortly afterward. Buzz around the animation school I go to is one of the projects Disney has been eyeing since the recent Pixar merger is that project. It's wishful thinking on my part, but it's not out of the realm of possibility. Sorry if I sounded totally matter-of-fact.

[Silly McGooses]

A Spirit animated movie is already in pre-production.

I know there's rumblings from Brad Bird about wanting to do a Spirit movie, but I thought it was all speculation at this point?
I guess that means that Loeb-penned Spirit movie is off.

[EmaHalJordan]

Originally Posted by Sage Shinigami
A KYLE RAYNER inspired GL series (no Hal Jordan--he should be dead right now)

Kyle Rayner es Ion.
HAL JORDAN IS "THE" GREEN LANTERN, the best and most legendary GL. ;)

EmaHalJordan

[SuperChicken]

Kyle Rayner es Ion.
HAL JORDAN IS "THE" GREEN LANTERN, the best and most legendary GL. ;)

EmaHalJordan

Now, now gentlemen. let's play nice.

Besides we all know the only real GL is Alan Scott. :p

[audiecugi]

I think the coolest thing ever would be if BT got to do the new Buffy cartoon that has been talked about for some time. I think they've already started the cartoon, so it maybe too late for that.

Anything DC related would be great! Marvel related would be cool too. And I wouldn't mind seeing BT being able to create his own characters/world for an origial series.

[Sage Shinigami]

Besides we all know the only real GL is Alan Scott. :p

This is the truth, folks.

Alan >>>>>>>>> Hal, Kyle, Guy, and John all at once.


I remember an issue of GL back when Kyle was the star, right before he turned into Ion (his powers had were rapidly increasing), Kyle and Alan threw down. Despite technically being outpowered, Alan won....K.O.ing Kyle with a green boxing glove. :D

If the rumor about the Flash movie being about Jay Garrick is true, then the Green Lantern movie should MOST DEFINITELY be about Alan.

[Sage Shinigami]

Dark Knight Returns
Watchmen
Kingdom Come

Any of which, to be done really right, should be a series.


Mini-series, maybe. All three of those were minis--why on EARTH would you turn them into whole series and kill them? Some ideas only work for movies/mini-series. The aforementioned are perfect examples of such.

[William C. Maune]

I think the coolest thing ever would be if BT got to do the new Buffy cartoon that has been talked about for some time. I think they've already started the cartoon, so it maybe too late for that.

To add to that, considering how often Greg Weisman also gets mentioned around Toon Zone, I think it would be really interesting to see them team up on a Buffy cartoon, especially since I don't believe they have ever worked together. Both are huge fans of Buffy and can talk about the Whedon-verse all night long.

Really though, at this point I definitely say whatever Bruce Timm wants to do (or JLU Beyond).

[FALLEN ELDOR]

if we are talking JLU spin off, Flash and Green lantern are the strongest and obvious choices. Green Arrow could be good. It would be BTAS with brighter colors :D A marvel showcase/team up type show that explored the Marvel universe the way JLU explored the DCU could be fun, but I'd prefer him to tackle two of Marvel's best comics...Conan and Star Wars. Conan is currently taken but I'd kill to see a classic trilogy era star war toon.

http://www.popcultureshock.com/timm/gallery/1783.jpg

http://www.popcultureshock.com/timm/search.php


No, it ran on CN for a season and a half, and Mattel did crap with the toyline...

This is why I said RE-relaunch. With a Timm look, I think the cartoon would be more successful.

But, since I know it won't happen, I'd like to see The Warlord get a series.

Here is the Bruce Timm art card from the 10 Best Episode Masters of the Universe DVD from last year.

http://bandicoot.merseine.nu/~helok/timmdvdcard.jpg

With the success of the DVDs and if what JVS3 said about Entertainments Rights holding the classic show's rights was right I don't think a show that continued the Filmation show is impossible...

http://www.popcultureshock.com/timm/gallery/1607.jpg

http://www.popcultureshock.com/timm/gallery/1871.jpg


I'd love to see b.t. and his team do a completely original, creator-owned project all their own. As much as I got a charge out of JLU, my dream cartoon series since the Flash guest starred on Superman: The Animated Series, I can also imagine how sick b.t. and the rest must be of working with licensed characters. After seeing how much life they gave to fifth stringer comic book characters like Vixen, John Stewart and Hawkgirl, to the point where they stole two series out from under Batman and Superman, I want to see them create a whole new animated universe all their own, applying what they've learned in the previous years.

Yeah. I think the point is that most of us would pretty much watch whatever he could pull out his talented, talented ass!

[MilkManX]

I am still hoping for Kamandi!

[BoyScout]

http://i33.photobucket.com/albums/d63/_BoyScout_/JLUBeyond.jpg

[Knight]

JLU Beyond would be nice. Lets go back to the future again. Whatever it is I just hope its DC related I dont want Marvel to have the guy.

[SuperChicken]

Mini-series, maybe. All three of those were minis--why on EARTH would you turn them into whole series and kill them? Some ideas only work for movies/mini-series. The aforementioned are perfect examples of such.

Well, I was thinking a series in the sense that HBO tends to do 10 ep series - you could easily get two or three seasons out of Watchmen or DKR - Kingdom Come is another matter, though they flushed it out enough in the novelization.

But I wouldn't say ongoing in the sense that Sopronos or Lost is ongoing - there would have to be an end targeted from the beginning.

[Arkangel]

A Justice League cartoon was my dream project for Bruce Timm, and that dream came true (and after the amazing season 3 of JLU, I can honestly say it exceeded all of my expectations).

[A.J]

Bring on a THE BRAVE AND THE BOLD series or WORLD´s FINEST! :D

[S.C.B]

There were quite a few 'pilot' episodes in Season 3:

'Shadow of the Hawk' - Hawkman:TAS.

'Chaos at the Earth's Core' - Skartaris... He-man... type thing:TAS.

'Flash and Substance' - The Flash:TAS. Or just a show about his rogues gallery... I'd watch that.

'Dead Reckoning' - Deadman:TAS.

'Patriot Act' - The Seven Soldiers of Victory (I think):TAS.

'Far From Home' - The Legion of Superheroes:TAS... oh, wait.

[DreamTripper]

S.C.B.
The He-Man type thing series would be called The Warlord, as that was the name in the comics. Travis Morgan was the Warlord, and, although I've never seen the episode, I think this would be great. I even mentioned a Warlord:TAS before I ever knew that he appeared on JLU.

[melibell21]

they should do a suicide squad show. that would be too cool.

[Beat]

Either "Watchmen" or "Whatever happened to the Man of Tomorrow?"

[efumf]

If he's leaving DC, then I'd like to see him do a Buffy and/or Angel (or Spike/Faith) animated series. Dunno what happened to the Buffy TAS that was being shopped around.

[DarqueGuy]

If we're talking another DCU Cartoon, I'd love to see him do a JLU spin-off called the Outsiders. BUT, instead of going the route of using the Outsiders team that was in the comics, I'd use Huntress and Question in the lead positions and fill the rest of the team with quirkier JLU members who didn't really get much of a chance (if any) to shine (Bwana Beast comes to mind; maybe Obsidian too), villains who might be on the fence about which side their on (say, Giganta and maybe Galatea going by Power Girl) and a few odds-and-end characters who hadn't debuted on JLU or anywhere else (Captain Comet, Firehawk and a finally-legal Blue Beetle come to mind). If the JLU's the equivalent to the FBI, then this team could be the X-Files.

For Marvel, I'd really like to see Bruce take on a team called the Champions in animated form. I imagine it'd be murder to get the rights to all of the necessary characters (Iceman and Angel are tied up in X-Men rights, Black Widow was just in the Ultimate Avengers film and who knows what kinds of rights issue Ghost Rider has going on these days? That leaves only Hercules, which may garner who knows what kind of wrath from Disney despite clearly being a Marvel version of the character). It's a great, quirky, odd mix with two ex-X-Men, a russian spy, a Greek god and a stunt man possessed by the devil. Very fun, bizarre read.

As for outside of the big two comic companies, I'd like to see Bruce tackle something featuring one (or more) of the old pulp heroes like Doc Savage, the Shadow or the Green Hornet.

[NightwingAngelo]

I disagree, i think it's very easy to give a character like Nightwing a series...He was barely exposed in TNBA, so while we know his past...we dont know him majorly as to how he has changed since his travels. Plus if you throw in some of the "living in the shadow of the bat" issue...it would provide some interesting plotlines for whenver he receives help from the batteam or has to deal with issue's revolving the publics idea of batman and his connection to Nightwing. Nightwing has his own comic,over 5 dozens of issues...stories that go to many different locales,ideas etc.

Throw in some guest appearences,maybe even throw in the comic plot of having Dick Grayson join the Bludhaven Police Dept. and potentially have a fling with a female officer.

It's not hard to see that Nightwing, could easily fill 13 episodes (since thats the norm for animated series nowadays)

Also saying that characters like Nightwing,flash,GL, etc dont have the "name" to warrant a show...is like saying that "the zeta project" and "static shock" were NAME properties enough to be as big as they were.

Ditto! From one Nightwing fan to another.

[NightwingAngelo]

Nightwing: The Animated Series

Dick Grayson the cop, better outfit and hair, Deathstroke, Blockbuster (II), Batman and some Bat-family crossovers, some Superman,The Flash, and some Batman/Original Boy Wonder villains. Also a tie-in to Derek Power's relatives/parents for BB. 52 episodes at least.

Nightwing DTV - Origins/Batman: The Lost years

The Green Lantern Corps (A time-travelling ep. to see Hal Jordan, some Kyle Rayner, John Stewart, etc...)

The Flash: Sorry Sonic The Hedgehog, this show might be a little faster than yours.

The New TT (Timmstyle)/ or The Outsiders
The Brave and the Bold
World's Finest
Legion of Superheroes (Timm, McDuffie, and Dini's)

Batman DTV: Near Apocolyps of 09. I so hope this is done by Timm and Co. :D

I'd also like them to do a Spider-man series, an Iron Man series, and and X-Men... but not in Timm-verse animation. It's great stuff, but it just doesn't seem to match with those characters.

[Revelator]

If we're talking another DCU Cartoon, I'd love to see him do a JLU spin-off called the Outsiders. BUT, instead of going the route of using the Outsiders team that was in the comics, I'd use...

That's an terrific idea, especially since I was never that fond of the original Outsiders line-up. Aside from future JLU DTVs, that's one of the DCAU dream project I'd love to see.
Other thoughts...
I'd have loved to have seen another series of TNBA that began directly in the aftermath of the ROTJ flashback, beginning with Bruce taking Tim home and having to deal not only with the horrified reactions of Alfred and Dick, but also his own realization that he's too emotionally distant to give Tim the emotional support he needs. It would also be fun to take a look at how Gotham's underworld adjusts to the knowledge of Joker's death, and whether they jump to the conclusion that Batman snapped and killed the Joker. I can imagine Two Face emerging as the main villain. I suppose the series would also have to set up the conditions that lead to Rebirth, with Bruce eventualy driving away everyone he loved and ending up an emotionally bitter recluse.

This idea is more comic-related: I've longed wanted to see Ian Fleming's novel of Casino Royale adapted into graphic novel format, and I've often pictured it with Timm's artwork, especially since I've seen some of his noir-themed comics work, which would work especially well with what is the most noir-like of the Bond novels. A CR comic would be an excellent tie-in to the upcoming movie, and since it had Fleming's original plot and dialogue and Timm's artwork, it would probably be much better than the film too (even if I think Craig will make a good Bond).
And while the days of adults-only action cartoons are still far away in American animation, I'd love to see a Timm-produced James Bond cartoon, especially since many of Fleming's novels have never really been properly adapted (Casino Royale, Live and Let Die, Moonraker, Diamonds Are Forever, The Spy Who Loved Me, You Only Live Twice and The Man With the Golden Gun are all prime examples). While in live-action it would be expensive to reporduce the period settings of the books, as well as some of their more outrageous set-pieces (such as the giant squid in Dr.No), in animation such concerns would disappear. My mouth is watering already in anticipation of the impossible.

[DreamTripper]

Here's another Timm interpretation of He-Man..
http://bandicoot.merseine.nu/~helok/newhmtimm.JPG
Maybe he could redesign the entire line!

[psifreek28]

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v97/psifreek28/nightwing.jpg

nuff said.

[David64]

A Spider-Man series by Bruce Timm would so rock! I mean, look at all the DC shows he made. Spider-Man would be right up there with them if he did.

[melibell21]

maybe a cap marvel series. we could get shazam, mary, cm3, the troubles of turning into an adult while still being a kid (does anyone remember his romance with stargirl? lol). that could be interesting.