Another Weird Cartoon Question

[Nelson]

Out of all the classic cartoons , what would you consider is the weirdest or sickest cartoon you have ever seen from ?Hollywood's Golden Age"?

My would be this little cartoon...

Chew Chew Baby:1958This is one of three Harveytoons shorts that are completly banned from from ever being seen the public again.In this short, a safari hunter captures a little pygmy from africa.Once back home the pygmy turns out to be a man eating cannibal, eating every single thing (mostly humans)in a violent graphic sight.But in a weird twist of fate, the man and the pygmy get flattned by a car when the paramedics come to the scene of the accident, they(by accident)switch blood between the man and the hungry eating cannibal.Then it's the man that starts eating people and the cannibal trying to stop him.

This is considerd to be "Cult" classic, I simply love this cartoon.

[Jon Cooke]

Originally posted by Nelson
Chew Chew Baby:1958This is one of three Harveytoons shorts that are completly banned from from ever being seen the public again.


What are the titles of the other two banned Harveytoons? Also, Nelson, do you have a copy of "Chew Chew Baby"? It sounds hilarious!


-Jon

[J Lee]

That cartoon has the dubious distinction of being the fastest cartoon ever to make the banned list -- it was made in 1958 and was never part of the Haeveytoons package when it debuted on ABC the following year or when it went into syndication in 1962.

Considering it was made in New York City -- where racial sensativity was so high that many of the edits we decry today were first started by WNEW-TV (i.e. the ends of "Goofy Grocieries" and "Fresh Hare" in the WB package; the end of "Winner By A Hare" in the Harveytoon package) back in the late 50s and early 60s -- it's hard to believe the Paramount staff was that clueless about what would happen (of course, director Izzy Sparber was more than clueless by the time the cartoon was released; he was dead of a heart attack, and didn't have to face the wrath of the Paramount brass for spending $25,000 on a cartoon that couldn't be shown in at least part of the country).

[Nelson]

I'm getting "Chew Chew Baby" in a couple of weeks on video.....
As For The other two banned Hareytoon shorts, here are the other titles.

In The Nicotine 1961: It about a man that smokes to much and is commited to smokers rehab

The Plot Sickens 1961:Is about a man that tries to kill his ugly fat wife....

[Matt Yorston]

My picks for sickest classic cartoon are "Pantry Panic" (1941) and "Who's Cookin' Who?" (1946) about Woody and a cat (a wolf in the latter) trying to devour one another. The idea of two characters trying to cannibalize the other just churns my stomach for some reason. The ending to the former (with them devouring a moose with its remains strewn all about) in particular sickens me. Regarding "Who's Cookin' Who" (Attention, Larry T.), was there a cut made to this cartoon when YTV showed it? There seemed to be a jump after the wolf jumped out of the meat grinder. It just showed him screaming and jumping out, then it cut to Woody ringing the dinner triangle.

My pick for second sickest goes to "An Itch in Time" (1943). I have NEVER liked this cartoon. I know I may be in the minority but the idea of the flea trying to cannibalize the dog in the most extreme of ways (digging into its skin with a pickaxe, lighting a ton of explosives on the dog's backside).... EEERGGH!! It just makes my skin crawl. I also don't care much for that cartoon's ending with the flea walking off with Elmer and his dog on a platter. I can understand the flea wanting to "eat" the dog (i.e. a flea is a dog's natural parasite) but WHY ELMER TOO???!!!

[Thad Komorowski]

Originally posted by Nelson
I'm getting "Chew Chew Baby" in a couple of weeks on video.....
As For The other two banned Hareytoon shorts, here are the other titles.

In The Nicotine 1961: It about a man that smokes to much and is commited to smokers rehab

The Plot Sickens 1961:Is about a man that tries to kill his ugly fat wife....

I know it was released to video, but did "No Ifs, Ands, Or Butts" ever air on Fox Family's HARVEYTOON SHOW? That deals heavily with smoking.

Also, that surprises me pygmies would actually be used in a 1958 cartoon... :eek:



-Thad

[Thad Komorowski]

Originally posted by Matt Yorston
Regarding "Who's Cookin' Who" (Attention, Larry T.), was there a cut made to this cartoon when YTV showed it? There seemed to be a jump after the wolf jumped out of the meat grinder. It just showed him screaming and jumping out, then it cut to Woody ringing the dinner triangle.

I think it might be a jump in the print. That's the way my copy of it is too. Was this print ACTUALLY shown on a non-local television network (YTV)??? Sheesh, talk about being desparate to use a print...:rolleyes: But it's better to have a copy than no copy at all.



-Thad

[Emmanuel Cruz]

Originally posted by Nelson
Out of all the classic cartoons , what would you consider is the weirdest or sickest cartoon you have ever seen from ?Hollywood's Golden Age"?

My would be this little cartoon...

Chew Chew Baby:1958This is one of three Harveytoons shorts that are completly banned from from ever being seen the public again.In this short, a safari hunter captures a little pygmy from africa.Once back home the pygmy turns out to be a man eating cannibal, eating every single thing (mostly humans)in a violent graphic sight.But in a weird twist of fate, the man and the pygmy get flattned by a car when the paramedics come to the scene of the accident, they(by accident)switch blood between the man and the hungry eating cannibal.Then it's the man that starts eating people and the cannibal trying to stop him.

This is considerd to be "Cult" classic, I simply love this cartoon.

Do you or anyone has some pictures from this cartoon? Also, does anyone have pictures from the other 2 banned Harveytoons?

[Mibbitmaker]

Another cartoon that comes to mind is Popeye ala Mode.

EEEEEWWWWWWWWWWWwwwwwwww!!

[Nelson]

It's very hard to find any images of this(and the other two classic cartoon."Chew Chew Baby" has the original Harveytoon opening & closing titles from the early 60s.

[Emmanuel Cruz]

Originally posted by Nelson
Out of all the classic cartoons , what would you consider is the weirdest or sickest cartoon you have ever seen from ?Hollywood's Golden Age"?

My would be this little cartoon...

Chew Chew Baby:1958This is one of three Harveytoons shorts that are completly banned from from ever being seen the public again.In this short, a safari hunter captures a little pygmy from africa.Once back home the pygmy turns out to be a man eating cannibal, eating every single thing (mostly humans)in a violent graphic sight.But in a weird twist of fate, the man and the pygmy get flattned by a car when the paramedics come to the scene of the accident, they(by accident)switch blood between the man and the hungry eating cannibal.Then it's the man that starts eating people and the cannibal trying to stop him.

This is considerd to be "Cult" classic, I simply love this cartoon.

How actually does the cannibal eat the people? You said it was a violent graphic sight, and I would think that this cartoon wouldn't pass the Holylwood censors for the obvious reasons.

[Emmanuel Cruz]

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[J Lee]

The eating is graphic...in a 1958 Paramount Noveltoons sort of way. That is, ou get to see the kid gulp down a couple of people, but the animation standards at Paramount had been cut back so much by 1958, that it doesn't have nearly the impact it would have if, say, "Chew Chew Baby" had been made in 1945 or so. An episode of "Ed, Edd and Eddy" would still beat it on the cheap-animation gross-out factor (think Avery's "Billy Boy" where the goat eats the farmer's arm, only with really low-budget animation, and you'll get the idea).

[Bobby B]

Originally posted by Thad Komorowski
I know it was released to video, but did "No Ifs, Ands, Or Butts" ever air on Fox Family's HARVEYTOON SHOW? That deals heavily with smoking.


It did air on the syndicated "Casper and Friends" in 1991, which had more severe censorship than "The Harveytoons Show".

[Nelson]

Some toon fans find "Chew Chew Baby" pretty dull but I love this cartoon very much.I saw this cartoon several years ago at a banned cartoon festival that was programed by Jerry Beck, at Manhattan's FILM FORUM.This was the one cartoon that was kept a secret by the theater and it recevied a huge great reaction from the moviegoers.That cartoon when the time it was made(1958) Paramount/Famous Studios were going into making limited animation, it was a very cool style of animation for a major cartoon dept when the others were still making full animation.

[Larry T]

Hmm.... I have three copies of this cartoon from three different sources, and they all jump at the same point (unfortunately, they were all TV airings, so there could be a common cut.....)

However, one of them is from an airing which I caught on Cleveland's WUAB "Woody Woodpecker Show" in about 1984, an unsyndicated, non-bumpered production which NEVER censored any of their Lantz cartoons. For a few years at that time they independently aired these very well-used prints from several different studios, and I got "Bathing Buddies", "Pop-Pie A La Mode", "Garden Gopher", and "Droopy's Good Deed" all totally uncensored.

Besides, it was really unlike Lantz studios to make revolting graphic sick humour in its cartoons of the 40s and 50s (that would be better left to Paramount ;) ), so I doubt that there was anything removed because of content. Plus, even though it may look choppy, you all must keep in mind that unlike MGM, Disney, or even Warner's, Lantz did not have the budget for its cartoon department to allow for seven or eight re-shoots and re-animations of its cartoons to give them the polished perfection we're used to from its competitors (a good example of this would be the disappearing pillow in "Coo Coo Bird"), so if the editing looks like it was done by a vision-impaired ABC-networks employee with a pair of dull garden shears, that's the reason why.

However, maybe sometime in the future I'll pick up a colour or B&W Castle films print of it so I can cross-reference that scene. From my understanding, those films were released exclusively for the home market, and didn't go through the same censorship traumas of television-aimed material.