Better "War" Cartoon

[rmarti3926]

Just a thought, which of the following three animated franchises is the best "war" cartoon?

[I.R Joey]

Watch your back for us rouge Exosquad fans. We don't take kindly to being excluded. :mad:

If I had to choose among the three I'd say MSG. Because it had a sequential storyline, potrayed both the Zeon and Federation as sympathetic, and wasn't afraid to show the civilian cost of war.

[Gatomon41]

I agree. Transformers didn't really dipict war was horrible, nor did GI Joe. While GI Joe is fun, but cartoonish, Exosquad was great, but dosn't compare to the dark and depth MSG goes into.

[mg_winxclub]

I'm in agreement with the others as well. As much as I love GI JOE and TRANSFORMERS, shows like Exoquad, Macross/Robotech, and those seem to depict war as a horrible thing. Mobile Suit Gundam, Gundam Wing, etc. IMO showed war as more of a necessary event.

[Rasputin]

...*cough* Gasaraki *cough*...

[D.Shaffer]

If you replaced the GI Joe cartoon, with the GI Joe Comic, I'd point to that.

All three have their faults.

Transformers and GI Joe both tend to overly glorify it with a comical lack of casualties.

Gundam tends to go to an extreme the other way. Gundam's message (To me) often seems to point to the idea that war is NEVER a good idea, with any fighting usually the fault of a few shady people trying to gain personal advancement.

Exo-Squad is probably the most realistic depiction in how/why a war developed, not suprising since it's mostly based on WWII.

[raykremer]

GI Joe isn't a war show. It's episodic, for one thing. The Joes aren't a proper army in their own right and Cobra is too much of a mustache-twirling style villain group.

TF is closer, but still keeps the fighting to a small group of characters. Not much of a war.

MS Gundam makes it clear that the people we see are only a small part of the overall war effort. It also plays up the war is hell angle. So it wins. Gundam Seed doesn't do those things as well, but well enough. Gundams Wing and G are right out.

Roughnecks: Starship Troopers is good too for playing up the "there's a really big war going on beyond the main characters theme.

[I.R Joey]

I agree. Transformers didn't really dipict war was horrible, nor did GI Joe. While GI Joe is fun, but cartoonish, Exosquad was great, but dosn't compare to the dark and depth MSG goes into.

I don't know I think Exosquad dove pretty deep into the issues of war. Concentrartion camps, civilian casualties, all that stuff.

[Cheetatron]

Now if we were talking about Furman's G2 Transformers comic and its crossover with GI Joe than maybe those two could be put in the running but neither of their cartoon iterations can really be called war stories imo I dont remember enough about exo squad to really comment.

[JesseCuster]

While the Transformers TV series definitely made light of war because characters hardly ever actually got shot and everybody just got repaired and were back next week.

However, in Transformers: The Movie, war was definitely hell as a number of favorite characters bought it big time and never returned. Ironhide, Prowler, and Ratchet were all killed in the first five minutes of the movie and that all goes without mentioning the "death" of Optimus Prime.

[Fan of Sponge]

I don't like the three choices, so I voted for neither. I rather prefer the old animated war cartoons from World War II because they're more realistic than Transformers or GI Joe. I understand and get the point what we were fighting for in World War II than GI Joe in the 1980's where there wasn't a major conflict we were fighting for execpt for the sleepy and dipolmatic Cold War.