.hack//ROOTs, starring LeVar Burton as Kunt@ _K1nt3

[Juu-kuchi]

New .hack anime everyone!

New .Hack Anime (2006-02-08 15:32:16)
On Monday there was an official press conferance announcing the April broadcast of .hack//Roots (http://www.animenewsnetwork.com/encyclopedia/anime.php?id=6248), a new TV series entry in the .hack universe. (http://forums.toonzone.net/) Animation will again be handled by Bee Train (http://forums.toonzone.net/) and Yuki Kajiura (http://www.animenewsnetwork.com/encyclopedia/people.php?id=3914)'s FictionJunction YUUKA (http://www.animenewsnetwork.com/encyclopedia/people.php?id=23163) will provide the opening theme. Source: AV Watch (http://www.watch.impress.co.jp/av/index.htm) [ discuss (http://www.animenewsnetwork.com/article.php?discuss=8341) ]
So, what would you expect... an action filled adventure series with some of the things that made .hack//SIGN's episodes seem like they crawl at a snail's pace, or light-hearted and happy-go-lucky (and at times more amusing than SIGN) like .hack//TWILIGHT.

Or do you want it to be Roots. But instead of being in America pre-Emancipation, it's... ONLINE!

[.Automatisch]

I want a more serious show, like SIGN. That show really grew on me with it's slower pacing. I found that you really got to know the characters more and more as the show went on, and it wasn't too focused on the action. Sure, some things really didn't matter and shouldn't have been touched on as much like the Crimson Knights/Lady Subaru sub-plot, but I think that in the end it really came together with all the other characters combining to fight a common enemy.

[Rabi~en~Rose]

maybe it will be more action based that would make it unique from the other two drama/comedy :confused: it starts in april though that stinks guess it will be a 2007 release here :(

[Lord Dalek]

No surprise in having a new series and I'm glad to see Yuki is back.

[Tea]

I'm sure they'll go with something different from what we've seen already.

Whatever it is, I hope it's sans suggestive incest.

[GWOtaku]

//sign was great. //Dusk was a travesty. The further from the latter the better; although I don't think it has to be just like //sign to be good. If the show delivers on the soundtrack, has quality animation, and can tell its story in a compelling way the way //sign did at its best, then its a winner. If it paces faster and/or has some lighter fluff in there, hey, more power to it.

[Artimus Gigan]

I hope it shows the true face of MMORPGs and their effect on the masses

A Life Replacment System.....with all the glitches, PKs, and Ninja Looting

[FlyByNite77]

Personally I like the story of Dusk better, I just absolutely hate the character designs and style they went with.

[Djm912]

Personally, I loved the pace of .hack//SIGN. To me, everything on the show was done so meticulously that it was hard to at least not appreciate it somewhat. IMO, .hack//DUSK to me just seemed like a 'thrown together' anime spray painted with .hack colors.

I would love for it to be more like SIGN, but I'm not expecting it. I expect something in the middle. Something with the pacing and vibe of SIGN, but the action of DUSK.

And in a perfect world, the music will top SIGN's music.....in a perfect world.

[Lord Dalek]

Unless Koichi Mashimo is being held up by annother season of IGPX/Tsubasa Chronicle/whatever he does in the interrim betwen .hacks, I'd be surprised if he didn't direct.

Also don't expect this to air on Toonami... ever.

[Duke]

Also don't expect this to air on Toonami... ever.
Eh, that all depends on what happens to AS Saturday, IMO.

Also, in addition to what everyone else said, I'd also like some cameos from the video game/SIGN crew.

[Lord Dalek]

Eh, that all depends on what happens to AS Saturday, IMO.
Theres more of a chance that it would air on Friday night in the graveyard slot than anywhere else.

[Cagalli]

Theres more of a chance that it would air on Friday night in the graveyard slot than anywhere else.

Well, we've been there with Gundam Seed (now on at 5:30 a.m.), and now Naruto reruns are running in the spot (12:00 a.m.). A graveyard timeslot would be unfortunate, but not completely out of our reach. Thank goodness for DVRs.

This being said, we have no confirmation CN will even acquire the series.

[AkirQueen]

Also, in addition to what everyone else said, I'd also like some cameos from the video game/SIGN crew.

I heard there will be, but since those character designs are pretty much "obsolete" in the new The World, they'll look different.

For better, up-to-date info on it, check here.
http://dothackers.net/guanime.php
or if that link doesn't work, just go to dothackers.net

[Rabi~en~Rose]

Also don't expect this to air on Toonami... ever.

well wherever it airs I call the talkback rights :anime:

[Lord Dalek]

This being said, we have no confirmation CN will even acquire the series.Will they did run //Dusk to oblivion so we know CN still cares about .hack even if it is in rotten time slots.

If //Roots does make it on, they better air it in widescreen or I'll have a fit.

[Roman Legion]

well wherever it airs I call the talkback rights :anime:Not if I get there first. :p

--Romet

[Artimus Gigan]

Not if I get there first. :p

--Romet
I automaticly claim the rights because I do Gainax talkbacks way better than anyone else

[Lord Dalek]

I automaticly claim the rights because I do Gainax talkbacks way better than anyone elseYes but this isn't Gainax now isn't it?

[Karl Olson]

Yes but this isn't Gainax now isn't it?

Not in the least. It's probably Bee Train, atleast if they are keeping with the same studio.

[Hades]

As long as it isn't like Twlight, I'll be happy.

BTW, does anyone have info on .hack//GU? According to my PSM, it comes out March 1st, but NO magazine has show ANYTHING for it.

[AkirQueen]

March? This is what's been revealed regarding //GU (japan) release dates:

.hack//G.U. Resurrection is set for May, Vol. 2 for September, and Vol. 3 for December respectivly.





If //Roots does make it on, they better air it in widescreen or I'll have a fit.

Good God, I'll throw a fit too if they don't widescreen it. It annoyed the heck outta me constantly seeing misproportioned characters and scenary.

[Conekiller]

Some hard-subtitles where applicable would be nice (like the Sora reveal at the end of SIGN)

.hack//talkbacks (ooh, I like that) just wouldn't be the same without Romey at the helm.

I've said it before and I'll say it again, I really want a .hack MMORPG with a super create-a-character mode with the .hack design aethetic. I'd lose my social life in an instant.

[Lord Dalek]

I've said it before and I'll say it again, I really want a .hack MMORPG with a super create-a-character mode with the .hack design aethetic. I'd lose my social life in an instant.Well there is .hack//Fragment, but it's ORPG not a MMORPG

Anyway ROOTS is looking to be pretty bleak. A harsh chaser to the bubblyness that was Dusk.

[Dogasu]

I just wanted to step into this thread to say that I loved the title of this thread. It had me laughing for a good five minutes, it did.

Also, if I wanted to get started into the whole .hack stuff...where do I begin? And do I have to play the video games in addition to watching the anime to get the full story?

[Duke]

Also, if I wanted to get started into the whole .hack stuff...where do I begin? And do I have to play the video games in addition to watching the anime to get the full story?
I have no clue on the novels/manga, but in relation to the anime & video games...

-.hack//SIGN comes first. The final episode sets up the games.
-.hack//INFECTION is the first game, plays alongside .hack//LIMINALITY Vol. 1
-.hack//MUTATION is the second game, plays alongside .hack//LIMINALITY Vol. 2
-.hack//OUTBREAK is the third game, plays alongside .hack//LIMINALITY Vol. 3
-.hack//QUARANTINE is the final game, plays alongside .hack//LIMINALITY Vol. 4 (all of the LIMINALITY OAVs come with the specific game.
-The episode "Unison" (Which is only on Vol. 6 of .hack//SIGN, for some reason it was omitted from the Complete Collection) has the two casts meet for the final time.
-.hack//DUSK (aka .hack//Legend of the Twilight Bracelet) occurs some years afterward. A couple of characters return, but the stars are two new characters using the avatars of Black Rose & Kite from the games.

[Go-chin]

Read .hack//AI BUSTER first.
They are novels. 2 are out so far, but the second has some major translation errors (Good job, TP)

Then watch SIGN.
Then play the games and watch the OVAs that go along with then.
Then read the .hack//Legend of the Twilight Bracelet MANGA (NOT THE ANIME. It diverges from the real plot halfway through.)

If you ever hear anything about .hack//DUSK, ignore it. It's just a fan name for .hack//Legend of the Twilight Bracelet.

Then there's another novel series.

then .hack//G.U. games

Now .hack//ROOTS

[Conan-san]

Unless Koichi Mashimo is being held up by annother season of IGPX/Tsubasa Chronicle/whatever he does in the interrim betwen .hacks, I'd be surprised if he didn't direct. I'd say, giving how uttly dishwater like .hack//CLAMP became, that Koichi could take a hike for all I care.

[Lord Dalek]

then .hack//G.U. games

Now .hack//ROOTSROOTS comes before G.U.

[Scirel]

ROOTS is a prequel to the GU games just as SIGN was a prequel to the original games.

However, both ROOTS and the GU games have the same main charachters, Haseo and Ovan.

The DUSK manga is considered the official Canon as opposed to the anime.

I do have a feeling that if the anime was 26 instead of 13 episodes, the extra ideas they brought in could have ben excecuted a lot better.

AI buster 2 is out already? Damn my borders is slow. I didn`t see it last weekend.

Also i`m pretty sure there are only 2 AI buster novels.

[Rabi~en~Rose]

romey did the sign talkbacks and I did the legend ones so must we fight to the death over roots :confused: or have a 3rd person do them? :sweat:

tokyopop on their website lists another novel series called Birth or something where does that fit in?

[anime_guru]

to wash the horrible taste of .hack//legend of the twilight (yeah too lazy to type it all, even if this is longer to type) .hack//roots seems interesting. Biggest positive
yuki kajiura is back...now some good music
fictionjunction yuuka = great music
as for the story itself, it does seem more serious like .hack//sign, which is a positive. I don't necessarily mind that the action is minimized for originality, and I hope I get that from this new series. Now to wait for the subs to be released (next year...*cries*)
the character designs don't deviate from the .hack formula, but I have to say (nit picking I guess) some of the male characters (the older ones) tend to have the same structure, and I've always had that complaint out of series produced by bee train (see Noir/Madlax) so I'm hoping (much like the first .hack//sign) the male characters will be more defined.
I am really excited about the new .hack, but only time will tell if it's on par with sign or on par with um legend of the yeah...

[Roman Legion]

romey did the sign talkbacks and I did the legend ones so must we fight to the death over roots :confused: or have a 3rd person do them? :sweat:A battle to the death is fine by me! :D

Of course, when the time comes, we must establish the proper terms of engagement. You put down your rock, and I put down my sword, and we kill each other like God intended. We can stage a new battle each week. :p

--Romey

[Scirel]

Rabi, the another birth Books tell the story of the games from Black Rose's POV.

The games tell it from Kite's, but its the same story.

[Rabi~en~Rose]

A battle to the death is fine by me! :D

Of course, when the time comes, we must establish the proper terms of engagement. You put down your rock, and I put down my sword, and we kill each other like God intended. We can stage a new battle each week. :p

--Romey

eeeeks! um what do you know I'll let you off easy and just concede :eek:


Rabi, the another birth Books tell the story of the games from Black Rose's POV.

The games tell it from Kite's, but its the same story.

oh oh hey thats really good! I don't play games so then these should fill in what I missed! :anime:

[Rabi~en~Rose]

tv-tokyo now has a page for the series here http://www.tv-tokyo.co.jp/anime/hack_roots/

those character designs look really different. closer to Sign than to Legend I guess :confused:

[Karl Olson]

tv-tokyo now has a page for the series here http://www.tv-tokyo.co.jp/anime/hack_roots/

those character designs look really different. closer to Sign than to Legend I guess :confused:

Well, it's likely to be closer in tone to sign than legend. Hopefully, it's more actively paced than sign.

[Lord Dalek]

those character designs look really different. closer to Sign than to Legend I guess :confused:Thank goodness! :D

[Artimus Gigan]

Well, it's likely to be closer in tone to sign than legend. Hopefully, it's more actively paced than sign.
So the girl with the Rastafarian hat, Mysterious Glasses guy, and angsty haircut guy have to save the world from The World?

I'm in


hopefully the games will be not as cut and dry

[Ryoutarou]

So the girl with the Rastafarian hat, Mysterious Glasses guy, and angsty haircut guy have to save the world from The World?

I'm in


hopefully the games will be not as cut and dryI remember reading something the first game being longer than the last four put together, so it should be put together well.

[Tash]

Read .hack//AI BUSTER first.
They are novels. 2 are out so far, but the second has some major translation errors (Good job, TP)ALL of Tokyopop's .Hack releases have had a lot of errors. (Mostly because they like to translate everything themselves, rather than to use the existing translations from the games/anime)

[KuwabaraTheMan]

ALL of Tokyopop's releases have had a lot of errors.

Fixed for correctness.

[Karl Olson]

Fixed for correctness.

Except not. Yes, some are pretty terrible, others are excellent. Don't generalize.

[KuwabaraTheMan]

Except not. Yes, some are pretty terrible, others are excellent. Don't generalize.
True, but the overwhelming majority(and pretty much of all of their work I'm familiar with) is filled with errors. I've never heard of any Tokyopop translations called excellent though, are there any ones that are actually dead on?

[Conan-san]

I'll say this much, if it is a slow paced as //sign, I will take bee train apart with my bare hands.

Ditto goes for Tsubassa Seasion 2, lets not have another .hack//CLAMP people.

[Karl Olson]

True, but the overwhelming majority(and pretty much of all of their work I'm familiar with) is filled with errors. I've never heard of any Tokyopop translations called excellent though, are there any ones that are actually dead on?

Everything CLAMP I've seen out of them barring Chobits seems to be solid (and my beef with Chobits is the cursing, which seems forced all things considered,) and their shoujo stuff in general as of late seems to be respectable (their are some questions about Fruits Basket, but I'm seeing them raised by people who by their own admission have a less than solid grasp of Japanese, so I have to cast a bit of a wary on that itself because it could be more an issue of a lack of cultural context/lingual grasp on the part of the critic rather than a failure on the part of the company.) Yeah, their Gundam stuff is notoriously bad, but from I've noticed Viz has been called out the most lately of the major publishers (CMX doesn't count cause they don't have a major library at this point,) atleast if AnimeOnDVD's manga boards are indication (though with Viz, the problems don't turn up in certain lines like the Editor's Choice line. Tokyopop doesn't have the same convient compartmentalization.)

I mean, part of it is localization, rather than the raw translation which are usually handled as separate issues at most publishers. Both Tokyopop and Viz have certain titles that depending on who you ask, though adquately translated, are over-localized in terms of choice of slang and phrasing. Even Del-Rey's pulled the occaisional punch in that aspect, and publishers like Dr.Master which have little to no localization occaisionally end up quite dry if not almost clunky in terms of readability. It's a young industry trying to crank titles out, so yeah, QC is bound to be wack at points, even with supposedly great companies/sub-labels, and the more research I've done on subject, the only company that seems to get thumbs up regularly is DelRey (and that's only if you count Negima's hassles an isolated problem.) Everyone else has blemishes - plenty of them, some of them pretty galling.

Sure, that doesn't forgive screw-ups in relation cowtowing to percieved demographics (Tokyopop, Viz, DelRey, CMX,) print errors (Tokyopop, Viz, ADV) and anything less than what even a semi-decent-scanlation team delivers (everyone's got a title that fits that bill as far as I can tell, even the literal companies like Dr.Master) but singling companies out is silly because titles are handled by different people from title to title - sometimes even volume to volume - so you really got to read prospective titles yourself and decide whether you're satisfied with what you're reading. Otherwise, it's stereotyping an industry (or atleast companies inside of them) which has yet to find any regularity and consistency even with the best of brand companies, and as such, you're bound to miss out on titles on the basis of prejudice.

[FlyByNite77]

I'll say this much, if it is a slow paced as //sign, I will take bee train apart with my bare hands.

Ditto goes for Tsubassa Seasion 2, lets not have another .hack//CLAMP people.

I think Bee Train's version was a really good adaption of the manga and having seen the Production IG 'take' on the character designs in the Tsubasa Chronicle movie that was with the XXXholic manga I think Bee Train's looks a lot better.

I'm not always a fan of their work and style, but I thought it kinda worked with Tsubasa Chronicle and I love Yuki Kajiura scores.

[Karl Olson]

I think Bee Train's version was a really good adaption of the manga and having seen the Production IG 'take' on the character designs in the Tsubasa Chronicle movie that was with the XXXholic manga I think Bee Train's looks a lot better.

I'm not always a fan of their work and style, but I thought it kinda worked with Tsubasa Chronicle and I love Yuki Kajiura scores.

Personally, I prefered IG's take over BeeTrain's. It felt closer in tone to CLAMP's original pace and intent. Bee Train's really has over stretched Tsubasa in my book, though in general I think Bee Train is guilty of that with their series. However, CLAMP has done worse in the adaptation department, so it's not all bad. I just prefer concision.

[Conan-san]

I dunno, they just seemed to suck all the fun out fo the series, the drunk sakura gag, draging out the "Stand" arc a few episodes mroe than it should be, that fillar arc in the middle.

Yes, I call the first major storyarc in Tsubassa a refrence to Jojo's bizzare adventure.

[Rabi~en~Rose]

the page is all updated and stuff and I guess the first episode will/did air today :eek: I'm having trouble getting stuff to load and the trailer won't play at all for me :(

does anyone know what the date 2017.04.03 01:30 is all about?

[HellCat]

Everything CLAMP I've seen out of them barring Chobits seems to be solid (and my beef with Chobits is the cursing, which seems forced all things considered,) and their shoujo stuff in general as of late seems to be respectable (their are some questions about Fruits Basket, but I'm seeing them raised by people who by their own admission have a less than solid grasp of Japanese, so I have to cast a bit of a wary on that itself because it could be more an issue of a lack of cultural context/lingual grasp on the part of the critic rather than a failure on the part of the company.) Yeah, their Gundam stuff is notoriously bad, but from I've noticed Viz has been called out the most lately of the major publishers (CMX doesn't count cause they don't have a major library at this point,) atleast if AnimeOnDVD's manga boards are indication (though with Viz, the problems don't turn up in certain lines like the Editor's Choice line. Tokyopop doesn't have the same convient compartmentalization.)

I mean, part of it is localization, rather than the raw translation which are usually handled as separate issues at most publishers. Both Tokyopop and Viz have certain titles that depending on who you ask, though adquately translated, are over-localized in terms of choice of slang and phrasing. Even Del-Rey's pulled the occaisional punch in that aspect, and publishers like Dr.Master which have little to no localization occaisionally end up quite dry if not almost clunky in terms of readability. It's a young industry trying to crank titles out, so yeah, QC is bound to be wack at points, even with supposedly great companies/sub-labels, and the more research I've done on subject, the only company that seems to get thumbs up regularly is DelRey (and that's only if you count Negima's hassles an isolated problem.) Everyone else has blemishes - plenty of them, some of them pretty galling.

Sure, that doesn't forgive screw-ups in relation cowtowing to percieved demographics (Tokyopop, Viz, DelRey, CMX,) print errors (Tokyopop, Viz, ADV) and anything less than what even a semi-decent-scanlation team delivers (everyone's got a title that fits that bill as far as I can tell, even the literal companies like Dr.Master) but singling companies out is silly because titles are handled by different people from title to title - sometimes even volume to volume - so you really got to read prospective titles yourself and decide whether you're satisfied with what you're reading. Otherwise, it's stereotyping an industry (or atleast companies inside of them) which has yet to find any regularity and consistency even with the best of brand companies, and as such, you're bound to miss out on titles on the basis of prejudice.

Interestingly enough, I was told recently that Ecole du Ciel has had some behind the scenes drama. Apparently the translator chose to cut out items of relevant symbolism and plot points that she apparently decided weren't important and so she got replaced 3 volumes in.

[Karl Olson]

Interestingly enough, I was told recently that Ecole du Ciel has had some behind the scenes drama. Apparently the translator chose to cut out items of relevant symbolism and plot points that she apparently decided weren't important and so she got replaced 3 volumes in.

Like I said, it is in part variable translator to translator, editor to editor, especially at this point in the industry's development. I have a friend who translates for T-Pop (relevant title here (http://www.tokyopop.com/dbpage.php?page=product&productid=3513),) and she just gives them the most literal but still readable translation she can give 'em. Beyond that, it's up to the editor to smooth that out into sensible English.

[Hades]

Well, saw the first episode, and it was great. I hope they decided that Legend IS NOT canon in the .hack universe since that was utter garbage.

[Keldran]

Hope I'm not the only one that laughed at the thread title.

[Scirel]

Well, saw the first episode, and it was great. I hope they decided that Legend IS NOT canon in the .hack universe since that was utter garbage.

It isn`t. The legend MANGA is cannon but not the anime. The manga is 3.5 volumes long(3rd one is extra big), and follows a completely different story from halfway.

[Hades]

It isn`t. The legend MANGA is cannon but not the anime. The manga is 3.5 volumes long(3rd one is extra big), and follows a completely different story from halfway.

I'm talking about omitting the manga as well as that was just plain stupid too. Hopefully ROOTS is there to replace it.

[Tash]

I'm talking about omitting the manga as well as that was just plain stupid too. Hopefully ROOTS is there to replace it.
I felt that the manga was important.
The scene where Shugo sits down and starts talking to Kamui really effected me for some reason. It's at that point that we remember that through all of the world-threatning stuff that happened in .Hack, there are still people who enjoy the game for what it is. He becomes a better person through the World, and it wouldn't have been possible if Kite/Tsukasa/whoever else didn't preserve the game. If nothing else, at least one person managed to find happiness as a result.

I really feel that the manga is important, because it shows exactly what the characters were fighting for, and what they accomplished

[Furu]

I haven't seen ROOTs myself yet, beyond the opening, but I have high hopes, as long as, ya know, stuff happens, as opposed to Sign, and it has an actual ending, as opposed to the Dusk anime.

After realizing it has a heavily endowed catgirl, though, I have to assume that's an instant ratings doubler on its own.


I'm talking about omitting the manga as well as that was just plain stupid too. Hopefully ROOTS is there to replace it.
Given that ROOTs takes place way after Dusk, I seriously doubt this is the case. Dusk happened and it'll probably be mentioned in ROOTs or GU or elsewhere.

(Oh, wow, this is my first post here? Surreal. I've been lurking for way too long.)

[Keiichi]

Wow not much love for poor LOTT. I'll probley get stoned for this but I found it more enjoyable than .Sign. Personally I think Sign would have been better if it was 13 eps and Legend was 24 eps. Anyway I thought the first ep of ROOTS was alright.

Is certainly surprised me to see that the two cute girls were really guys but that happens alot in online RPG

[Lord Dalek]

I know this is supposed to take place before GU but why do I feel like I'm entering the middle of the story here? At least SiGN for all it's molasses speed plotting had some consistancy.

[Conekiller]

It seems as if we're following Haseo's introduction into the World, much like Tsukasa's. Over time I guarnatee we'll learn what everyone's about and what their motivations are..at great length...over the coures of many many episodes ^__^

seems there's a few tweeks to the class system since we last saw the World.The manga introduced a hand-to hand/beast-like combat style via Ouka, it seems this is a more wide-spread usage of this class is avialiable. Also a multi-class exists, but seems to be looked down upon by the hardcore players.

[GWOtaku]

Ovan is the one thing that keeps me watching, I want to know what he's up to. To be honest so far this is feeling like a watered down version of //sign, i.e. another search for the Key of the Twilight all over again with a smaller, so far generally less interesting cast, less good music (not bad though), and lack of intrigue compared to //sign except in Ovan's case. But I'm willing to give it some time to develop and see where it goes. But //sign definitely opened a lot stronger.